Re: To Glenda re. Marmalade
I've been through this type of things with shelters as well. Anytime I try to work through a shelter I know I am taking that risk. Sometimes we have no choice tonya Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Shelters are bad about killing first and asking questions later. I had interest and told a worker that I wanted a lab mix they were showing at a pet store. They took the dog in early. He was showing signs of mild illness. This was Sunday, after I looked at Jackson three days in a row). Monday morning they killed him. Frankly, I can't remember the illness but it was treatable and my vets had successful experiences with it. It took time and money...both of which I would have upped willingly. They called me just after the worker I had talked to repeatedly called. She (the worker) assured me Jackson was ready and waiting for me. The shelter called, he's dead, can we help you with another pet Had I known, I would have sent someone to the shelter for him Sunday night. Like you, I just didn't know. I am so sorry you are having to go thru this. You did what you thought was best at the time and now are wiser, even though with a wounded heart. Perhaps this was the lesson Marmalade was sent to teach you
Re: To Glenda re. Marmalade
Shelters are bad about killing first and asking questions later. I had interest and told a worker that I wanted a lab mix they were showing at a pet store. They took the dog in early. He was showing signs of mild illness. This was Sunday, after I looked at Jackson three days in a row). Monday morning they killed him. Frankly, I can't remember the illness but it was treatable and my vets had successful experiences with it. It took time and money...both of which I would have upped willingly. They called me just after the worker I had talked to repeatedly called. She (the worker) assured me Jackson was ready and waiting for me. The shelter called, he's dead, can we help you with another pet Had I known, I would have sent someone to the shelter for him Sunday night. Like you, I just didn't know. I am so sorry you are having to go thru this. You did what you thought was best at the time and now are wiser, even though with a wounded heart. Perhaps this was the lesson Marmalade was sent to teach you If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "glenda Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:45 AM Subject: RE: To Glenda re. Marmalade Melissa, I had such a rough day yesterday and I am going to forever hurt for what has happened. I know nobody understands, but in my little community I believed completely at the end of this kitty's three days I would be able to have him. I know I would have, even today. All would have depended on what the outcome would have been at the vet's when I was to have him tested Thursday morning...The fact I'd stop in and was told by workers, twice, in fact, by the same new girl, I had never met before, that I could not go into where they kept the ' wild cats 'really threw me and not wanting to go over her head and insist, by talking to the director, just would leave and figure, oh well, I'll be nice and wait until I pick the cat up on Thursday...I had began to really get a creepy feeling about where they kept the 'wild kitties' and did and do not like their attitude...like they are kept in a dark hole or something...I was dying, trying to control my urges to just be a little bitchy and going right to Deb and say, I think I deserve to see this cat...simple as that...I have a very long history with this shelter and over a 20+year history with the director...I really love and respect her and know how hard her job is. Deb is a saint of a person, in her attitude towards animals...I will admit ,I was not that nuts about the new worker...but still, I tried to respect their policies and not act like I should be above them...Well, as everyone knows I made a horrible mistake. I saw the letter from Beckie this morning and remembered why I love this group so much and just had to write her. I had thought to just lay low for a couple days...I told 'someone' yesterday how fond I am of some of you guys here...Well, maybe that is why I am still here and also why I hurt so extra bad yesterday when I made everyone so sad and angry. I do have a way with words and it can be a good tool. I have brought many people to tears, over animals, in my letters to the editor and I will be blowing this town away with a couple killer letters in the next couple days. I also do work very hard...I do have a job and I have not a lot of flexability in my time to do much more than I do...but I will make something good come out of this tragedy...Thank you Melissa. Your opinion and support means a lot to me...Glenda --- Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Glenda, As usual, I think that Wendy always states things perfectly. I've been reading your story, but I've been unable to think of what to say. I had to decide what I felt first. Wendy's honesty put me in the right direction. I think it's easy to place blame and to point a finger at you (Glenda). I was saddened and confused about the circumstances and why things happened the way they did, but I think that I am not above reproach. I live with the guilt of how I mistreated a kitty and a dog in the past. Just like Wendy, I am ashamed of my actions. In junior high/high school, we had a dog that we didn't give attention to. My mom had 5 girls, a lousy husband, and we had trouble taking care of ourselves, so the dog suffered too. Luckily, we found her a good home. Then, as if I didn't learn my lesson, I took in a kitty when I moved out. I was not in a good place to take care of another living being--
RE: To Glenda re. Marmalade
Melissa, I had such a rough day yesterday and I am going to forever hurt for what has happened. I know nobody understands, but in my little community I believed completely at the end of this kitty's three days I would be able to have him. I know I would have, even today. All would have depended on what the outcome would have been at the vet's when I was to have him tested Thursday morning...The fact I'd stop in and was told by workers, twice, in fact, by the same new girl, I had never met before, that I could not go into where they kept the ' wild cats 'really threw me and not wanting to go over her head and insist, by talking to the director, just would leave and figure, oh well, I'll be nice and wait until I pick the cat up on Thursday...I had began to really get a creepy feeling about where they kept the 'wild kitties' and did and do not like their attitude...like they are kept in a dark hole or something...I was dying, trying to control my urges to just be a little bitchy and going right to Deb and say, I think I deserve to see this cat...simple as that...I have a very long history with this shelter and over a 20+year history with the director...I really love and respect her and know how hard her job is. Deb is a saint of a person, in her attitude towards animals...I will admit ,I was not that nuts about the new worker...but still, I tried to respect their policies and not act like I should be above them...Well, as everyone knows I made a horrible mistake. I saw the letter from Beckie this morning and remembered why I love this group so much and just had to write her. I had thought to just lay low for a couple days...I told 'someone' yesterday how fond I am of some of you guys here...Well, maybe that is why I am still here and also why I hurt so extra bad yesterday when I made everyone so sad and angry. I do have a way with words and it can be a good tool. I have brought many people to tears, over animals, in my letters to the editor and I will be blowing this town away with a couple killer letters in the next couple days. I also do work very hard...I do have a job and I have not a lot of flexability in my time to do much more than I do...but I will make something good come out of this tragedy...Thank you Melissa. Your opinion and support means a lot to me...Glenda --- Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Glenda, > > As usual, I think that Wendy always states things > perfectly. I've been > reading your story, but I've been unable to think of > what to say. I had to > decide what I felt first. Wendy's honesty put me in > the right direction. > > I think it's easy to place blame and to point a > finger at you (Glenda). I > was saddened and confused about the circumstances > and why things happened > the way they did, but I think that I am not above > reproach. I live with the > guilt of how I mistreated a kitty and a dog in the > past. Just like Wendy, I > am ashamed of my actions. In junior high/high > school, we had a dog that we > didn't give attention to. My mom had 5 girls, a > lousy husband, and we had > trouble taking care of ourselves, so the dog > suffered too. Luckily, we found > her a good home. > > Then, as if I didn't learn my lesson, I took in a > kitty when I moved out. I > was not in a good place to take care of another > living being--dealing with a > loss and very sad. I didn't play with kitty, didn't > scoop litter as much as > I should have, just didn't care. Since I didn't > really care so much about my > own life at the time, kitty got left out too. > Luckily, I found someone to > take him after I realized that I was not being fair > to him. > > We can all say, "How could you do such a cruel and > senseless thing?!" and we > can all say that we would never do such a thing. > But, can we be sure? I've > come a long way in my understanding of animals, > creation, etc. I've made a > long journey (in my short life thus far) in > appreciating our fellow > creatures, but I wasn't always that way. I wasn't > outright mean, but I was > neglectful and immature. We all have things to learn > and past mistakes to > atone for (be they relationships with animals, > humans, whatever). Some of us > have reached this point by many different > experiences and avenues. While > there is no excuse for what we've done, there's no > reason to dwell on it. We > should acknowledge our mistakes, forgive ourselves > and others, and vow to > make a difference with our lives. We cannot wallow > in despair and regret; > instead we must commit to an improved future--which > you are doing Glenda. > Good for you. > > Best wishes, > Melissa > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of wendy > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:43 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: To Glenda re. Marmalade > > Glenda, > > I have been reading about you and Marmalade the past > few days and mulling > over all I have read. I can completely see
RE: To Glenda re. Marmalade
Glenda, As usual, I think that Wendy always states things perfectly. I've been reading your story, but I've been unable to think of what to say. I had to decide what I felt first. Wendy's honesty put me in the right direction. I think it's easy to place blame and to point a finger at you (Glenda). I was saddened and confused about the circumstances and why things happened the way they did, but I think that I am not above reproach. I live with the guilt of how I mistreated a kitty and a dog in the past. Just like Wendy, I am ashamed of my actions. In junior high/high school, we had a dog that we didn't give attention to. My mom had 5 girls, a lousy husband, and we had trouble taking care of ourselves, so the dog suffered too. Luckily, we found her a good home. Then, as if I didn't learn my lesson, I took in a kitty when I moved out. I was not in a good place to take care of another living being--dealing with a loss and very sad. I didn't play with kitty, didn't scoop litter as much as I should have, just didn't care. Since I didn't really care so much about my own life at the time, kitty got left out too. Luckily, I found someone to take him after I realized that I was not being fair to him. We can all say, "How could you do such a cruel and senseless thing?!" and we can all say that we would never do such a thing. But, can we be sure? I've come a long way in my understanding of animals, creation, etc. I've made a long journey (in my short life thus far) in appreciating our fellow creatures, but I wasn't always that way. I wasn't outright mean, but I was neglectful and immature. We all have things to learn and past mistakes to atone for (be they relationships with animals, humans, whatever). Some of us have reached this point by many different experiences and avenues. While there is no excuse for what we've done, there's no reason to dwell on it. We should acknowledge our mistakes, forgive ourselves and others, and vow to make a difference with our lives. We cannot wallow in despair and regret; instead we must commit to an improved future--which you are doing Glenda. Good for you. Best wishes, Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: To Glenda re. Marmalade Glenda, I have been reading about you and Marmalade the past few days and mulling over all I have read. I can completely see how each person can feel the way they do. What happened is horrific. I know all of us are saddened by it. Obviously, you have learned your lesson and I can tell you feel badly about what happened. I don't want to say something hurtful or mean, although what happened to Marmalade, honestly, has made me angry and sad. However, as it has been pointed out, this happens every day to hundreds of animals in the world. Marmalade is just one. A grass roots foster/rescue program is needed, but who among us has the time or is willing to sacrifice? We live in a damn rat race. And I do not think that shelter work is every person's calling. I am starting up a pet sitting business and taking care of my brood, among all the other stuff going on in my life. Volunteering isn't part of the mix right now, but I do feel like I'm doing my part in my little corner of the world, for now. I am glad you feel you can come here for help. I think the people here are wonderful. Hideyo is very intense. I personally think she feels things more intensely than many of us do; that observation is based on what I have seen in the past. I think she will come around again. She's angry and hurt now, as many of us are, and you are the easiest target for that, unfortunately. However, even though you made a mistake, it was not intentional, and you were trying to rectify it. We ALL make mistakes. Every last one of us. One time, when I was just a girl, one of our cats (we had many) attacked my face. I was trying to pet him and talking to him really sweet, and he just attacked me and scratched me up. I was bleeding pretty good from several places, but my heart hurt more than my head. He jumped off the bed and walked off like he was the cat's meow and I kicked him in the behind. I was probably 8. He died a few days after that. He couldn't pee and my mom was the type not to waste money on our pets; she had to make sure she always had a six pack handy. I have always felt really badly about that. In hindsight, it's quite possible that this kitty had crystals or already had a UTI. But I'll never know and I choose to carry the grief that comes along with the responsibility of a mistake. I know there are probably others here who have unintentionally hurt an animal. I am certainly holding no grudge against you as I have no room to judge your mistake. I do hope that, as others have said, it can be turned into something good, for little Marmalade's sake. That is all that can be done now. Prayers
Re: To Glenda re. Marmalade
Thank you so much Wendy. --- wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Glenda, > > I have been reading about you and Marmalade the past > few days and mulling over all I have read. I can > completely see how each person can feel the way they > do. What happened is horrific. I know all of us > are saddened by it. Obviously, you have learned > your lesson and I can tell you feel badly about what > happened. I don't want to say something hurtful or > mean, although what happened to Marmalade, honestly, > has made me angry and sad. However, as it has been > pointed out, this happens every day to hundreds of > animals in the world. Marmalade is just one. A > grass roots foster/rescue program is needed, but who > among us has the time or is willing to sacrifice? > We live in a damn rat race. And I do not think that > shelter work is every person's calling. I am > starting up a pet sitting business and taking care > of my brood, among all the other stuff going on in > my life. Volunteering isn't part of the mix right > now, but I do feel like I'm doing my part in my > little corner of the world, for now. > > I am glad you feel you can come here for help. I > think the people here are wonderful. Hideyo is very > intense. I personally think she feels things more > intensely than many of us do; that observation is > based on what I have seen in the past. I think she > will come around again. She's angry and hurt now, > as many of us are, and you are the easiest target > for that, unfortunately. However, even though you > made a mistake, it was not intentional, and you were > trying to rectify it. We ALL make mistakes. Every > last one of us. One time, when I was just a girl, > one of our cats (we had many) attacked my face. I > was trying to pet him and talking to him really > sweet, and he just attacked me and scratched me up. > I was bleeding pretty good from several places, but > my heart hurt more than my head. He jumped off the > bed and walked off like he was the cat's meow and I > kicked him in the behind. I was probably 8. He > died a few days after that. He couldn't pee > and my mom was the type not to waste money on our > pets; she had to make sure she always had a six pack > handy. I have always felt really badly about that. > In hindsight, it's quite possible that this kitty > had crystals or already had a UTI. But I'll never > know and I choose to carry the grief that comes > along with the responsibility of a mistake. I know > there are probably others here who have > unintentionally hurt an animal. I am certainly > holding no grudge against you as I have no room to > judge your mistake. I do hope that, as others have > said, it can be turned into something good, for > little Marmalade's sake. That is all that can be > done now. Prayers going out for your heavy heart. > > :) > Wendy > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful > committed citizens can change the world - indeed it > is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade > ~~~ > > > - Original Message > From: glenda Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2007 12:01:23 PM > Subject: Fwd: MARMALADE...THE OUTCOME... > > > --- glenda Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:59:33 -0700 (PDT) > > From: glenda Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: MARMALADE...THE OUTCOME... > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > HELLO EVERYONE, > > THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE ADVICE AND SUPPORT. > > THE > > WORST HAS HAPPENED. I FEEL REALLY HORRIBLE RIGHT > > NOW. > > I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW HOW THE WORST > > HAPPENED: > > WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS HE WAS PUT DOWN, BY MISTAKE. > HIS > > PAPER WORK WAS NOT READ. FOR AS OFTEN AS I WENT > DOWN > > THERE AND BUGGED THEM, I GUESS I ASSUMED EVERYONE > > KNEW. EVEN THOUGH HE WAS IN THE 'WILD CAT' > > SECTION...I > > GUESS THE LESSON HERE IS: > > > > EVEN IF YOU KNOW YOU ARE MAKING PEOPLE ANGRY AND > > UPSET > > WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTING AN ANIMAL DO NOT BE > > AFRAID > > TO GET IN SOMEONE'S FACE. THE FACT I DID NOT RUB > IT > > IN > > A LITTLE MORE ON MY RIDE HOME FROM WORK TUESDAY > > NIGHT > > MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE REASON THIS MISTAKE HAPPENED. > > > > THE DIRECTOR, A REALLY SPECIAL PERSON, WHO I DO > LOVE > > AND RESPECT AND WITH WHOM I HAVE A GOOD > > RELATIONSHIP, > > TOLD ME THE MINUTE THE MISTAKE WAS REALIZED SHE > TOOK > > MARMALADE'S LITTLE BODY TO THE CLINIC DOWN THE > > STREET, > > TO THE VET. HE WAS TESTED BY A GAL NAMED DARCY AT > > MIDTOWN ANIMAL HOSPITAL IN GERING, NEBRASKA. THE > > TEST > > WAS NEGATIVE FOR FeLV AND FIV. THEY ESTIMATED THE > > CAT > > TO BE ABOUT 2-YEARS OLD. I WAS TOLD THEY FIRST > > NOTICED > > A LOT OF BATTLE SCARS ON HIM ,SO THEY THOUGHT HE > > MIGHT > > TEST POSITIVE...WELL, HE DIDNOT TEST > > POSITIVE! > > > > I TOLD DEB S. , THE DIRECTOR, ON THE PHONE I WOULD > > HAVE FOUGHT HER TOOTH AND NAIL TO SAVE THIS CAT IF >
Re: To Glenda re. Marmalade
Hi Wendy, I can definitely say starting a rescue is not for everyone. It is hard, I work about 80 hours a week between my rescue work and my "other" job (the one I use the $ from to pay for my real job if I don't get enough donations). I think some things I said could have been phrased differently and it was not my intention to hurt anyone's feelings. I hope all of us have learned a lesson, though, about not taking animals to kill shelters. I believe if you are going to have your animal killed you should at least have the cojones to take that animal to a vet and be with the animal as he dies and not let him die alone and scared in a shelter. But lots of people want to delude themselves about what is really going to happen (and I'm not talking about Glenda here because I don't think that is the case here). -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
