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My understanding is that the fatter the cat is the quicker they get into liver problems by not eating..tBelinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but Spaz has twice gone for days without eating and not had a problem This is true, I too have had sick cats that didn't want to eat much, but they were eating something and they were fine. Every cat is different and you never know which category your cat is going to fall into. It is absolutely a fact that some cats will be direly sick after not eating for only 2 days, so to me the risk isn't worth the possibility. And it is amazing how many vets don't warn people about this!!-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Have you tried finger feeding him meantime Elizabeth? I had to do that with my Flavia and Caramel for a while--I gave them the high-cal Hills prescription food from vet--they were happy to take it from my finger. (They cdn't smell the food and if cats can't smell, they haveno inclination to eat for themselves--once it was smeared inside their mouths they were able to taste/eat it.) Can't find your orig post but so glad he coughed up the rogue floss. Love your drawings whichI saw for first time today. They are out of this world. Kerry - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update I'm just a little worried about the boy. He doesn't seem to be eating. Just tried to tempt him with some chicken broth but no such luck. He did eat a little treat but tossed it back up shortly thereafter. I may call the vet in the morning. Going down there anyway to get Mama Kitty her B12 shot. In a message dated 6/22/2006 10:03:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elizabeth,What a fantastic story!!! I am so happy that Shakiticoughed the floss up! Yea! I will pray that hecontinues to improve and by tomorrow, there are nosigns of any problems at all, and he's back to normal!:)Wendy--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As soon as the vet got in from lunch - I called him. They had been watching Shakiti all afternoon and given him peroxide as an emetic...but no sign of dental floss. We discussed the prospects of surgery. He said he really hated to do unnecessary surgery - but on the other hand didn't want to put Shakiti's health and life at risk. I told him I really did not know what would be best for my boy and he said that he would be willing for me to watch him a day or two. He felt that if Shakiti made it through Friday without any problems - he would probably be ok. I told them I would be there in a bit and that I would stay up all night with him if necessary. I said prayers all the way there. When I got there, I expected to just pay the bill - get my boy and go - but they called me back into a room and said, 'Elizabeth, we have a problem'. My heart sank. I think it stopped beating. I could feel the tears starting to burn. *graphic description alert* In a bit, the doctor and the vet tech came out with a folded towel. They opened up the towel and there were a number of spots of bright red blood along about an 8 inch streak that Shakiti had regurgitated. They told me the blood was a bad sign. They said - all day we have been watching for Shakiti to throw up and nothing...but while you were on the way here, he started to vomit. Well...I looked at it carefully...and the vet tech looked at it carefully...and then we both looked right at each other and said 'Wait a minute! What's that?!?' What was it? Just a big wad of dental floss. The doctor got some tweezers and it stretched out nearly 2 feet! *end graphic content* Oh my goodness -- you can't imagine the waves of relief and the change in my face, the doctor's face and the vet tech's face. It was the whole piece - unbroken. The doctor believes now that the blood must have been from retching the foul thing up -- he said that is not uncommon in cats. They wanted to keep the baby overnight but I made 'big eyes' and said, 'Couldn't I take him home and watch over him?' -- I just know that I would watch and baby him like crazy and spoil him rotten while they would have to leave him overnight. They agreed. They gave him a steroid shot to decrease any inflammation and some demerol for pain and discomfort. I am to watch for any further signs of vomiting or if he hides like he feels bad and tomorrow I can start him on canned food if he feels ok. He is being a perfect angel and he has forgiven me completely. He's staring into space happy as a clam with his demerol buzz. Everytime I tell him how good he is - he smiles at me and purrs. Oh! And the great news is the Shakiti tested negative for FeVL today. His shots are up to date and as soon as he feels better he can wreak havoc and pester Tiffany just like good ol' times. Mama Kitty still looks great -- although I've got to have a little discussion with her about the headless baby bunny gift she left for me this afternoon. Thanks for being there you guysyou rock. p.s. Always, always flush your floss. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Thank you so much, Kerry. I'm starting to get concerned - Shakiti is hiding under the bed - and that isn't like him. I think I'm going to take him to the vet's in the morning. In a message dated 6/23/2006 1:23:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you tried finger feeding him meantime Elizabeth? I had to do that with my Flavia and Caramel for a while--I gave them the high-cal Hills prescription food from vet--they were happy to take it from my finger. (They cdn't smell the food and if cats can't smell, they haveno inclination to eat for themselves--once it was smeared inside their mouths they were able to taste/eat it.) Can't find your orig post but so glad he coughed up the rogue floss. Love your drawings whichI saw for first time today. They are out of this world. Kerry - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update I'm just a little worried about the boy. He doesn't seem to be eating. Just tried to tempt him with some chicken broth but no such luck. He did eat a little treat but tossed it back up shortly thereafter. I may call the vet in the morning. Going down there anyway to get Mama Kitty her B12 shot. In a message dated 6/22/2006 10:03:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elizabeth,What a fantastic story!!! I am so happy that Shakiticoughed the floss up! Yea! I will pray that hecontinues to improve and by tomorrow, there are nosigns of any problems at all, and he's back to normal!:)Wendy--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As soon as the vet got in from lunch - I called him. They had been watching Shakiti all afternoon and given him peroxide as an emetic...but no sign of dental floss. We discussed the prospects of surgery. He said he really hated to do unnecessary surgery - but on the other hand didn't want to put Shakiti's health and life at risk. I told him I really did not know what would be best for my boy and he said that he would be willing for me to watch him a day or two. He felt that if Shakiti made it through Friday without any problems - he would probably be ok. I told them I would be there in a bit and that I would stay up all night with him if necessary. I said prayers all the way there. When I got there, I expected to just pay the bill - get my boy and go - but they called me back into a room and said, 'Elizabeth, we have a problem'. My heart sank. I think it stopped beating. I could feel the tears starting to burn. *graphic description alert* In a bit, the doctor and the vet tech came out with a folded towel. They opened up the towel and there were a number of spots of bright red blood along about an 8 inch streak that Shakiti had regurgitated. They told me the blood was a bad sign. They said - all day we have been watching for Shakiti to throw up and nothing...but while you were on the way here, he started to vomit. Well...I looked at it carefully...and the vet tech looked at it carefully...and then we both looked right at each other and said 'Wait a minute! What's that?!?' What was it? Just a big wad of dental floss. The doctor got some tweezers and it stretched out nearly 2 feet! *end graphic content* Oh my goodness -- you can't imagine the waves of relief and the change in my face, the doctor's face and the vet tech's face. It was the whole piece - unbroken. The doctor believes now that the blood must have been from retching the foul thing up -- he said that is not uncommon in cats. They wanted to keep the baby overnight but I made 'big eyes' and said, 'Couldn't I take him home and watch over him?' -- I just know that I would watch and baby him like crazy and spoil him rotten while they would have to leave him overnight. They agreed. They gave him a steroid shot to decrease any inflammation and some demerol for pain and discomfort. I am to watch for any further signs of vomiting or if he hides like he feels bad and tomorrow I can start him on canned food if he feels ok. He is being a perfect angel and he has forgiven me completely. He's staring into space happy as a clam with his demerol buzz. Everytime I tell him how good he is - he smiles at me and purrs. Oh! And the great news is the Shakiti tested negative for FeVL today. His shots are up to date and as soon as he feels better he can wreak havoc and pester Tiffany just like
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Shakiti has a very upset belly and throat. Ask your vet about pepscid and try soothing things like whipped cream or warm chicken soup. Consider how you would feel right now? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kerry MacKenzie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:15 AM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update Have you tried finger feeding him meantime Elizabeth? I had to do that with my Flavia and Caramel for a while--I gave them the high-cal Hills prescription food from vet--they were happy to take it from my finger. (They cdn't smell the food and if cats can't smell, they haveno inclination to eat for themselves--once it was smeared inside their mouths they were able to taste/eat it.) Can't find your orig post but so glad he coughed up the rogue floss. Love your drawings whichI saw for first time today. They are out of this world. Kerry - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update I'm just a little worried about the boy. He doesn't seem to be eating. Just tried to tempt him with some chicken broth but no such luck. He did eat a little treat but tossed it back up shortly thereafter. I may call the vet in the morning. Going down there anyway to get Mama Kitty her B12 shot. In a message dated 6/22/2006 10:03:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elizabeth,What a fantastic story!!! I am so happy that Shakiticoughed the floss up! Yea! I will pray that hecontinues to improve and by tomorrow, there are nosigns of any problems at all, and he's back to normal!:)Wendy--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As soon as the vet got in from lunch - I called him. They had been watching Shakiti all afternoon and given him peroxide as an emetic...but no sign of dental floss. We discussed the prospects of surgery. He said he really hated to do unnecessary surgery - but on the other hand didn't want to put Shakiti's health and life at risk. I told him I really did not know what would be best for my boy and he said that he would be willing for me to watch him a day or two. He felt that if Shakiti made it through Friday without any problems - he would probably be ok. I told them I would be there in a bit and that I would stay up all night with him if necessary. I said prayers all the way there. When I got there, I expected to just pay the bill - get my boy and go - but they called me back into a room and said, 'Elizabeth, we have a problem'. My heart sank. I think it stopped beating. I could feel the tears starting to burn. *graphic description alert* In a bit, the doctor and the vet tech came out with a folded towel. They opened up the towel and there were a number of spots of bright red blood along about an 8 inch streak that Shakiti had regurgitated. They told me the blood was a bad sign. They said - all day we have been watching for Shakiti to throw up and nothing...but while you were on the way here, he started to vomit. Well...I looked at it carefully...and the vet tech looked at it carefully...and then we both looked right at each other and said 'Wait a minute! What's that?!?' What was it? Just a big wad of dental floss. The doctor got some tweezers and it stretched out nearly 2 feet! *end graphic content* Oh my goodness -- you can't imagine the waves of relief and the change in my face, the doctor's face and the vet tech's face. It was the whole piece - unbroken. The doctor believes now that the blood must have been from retching the foul thing up -- he said that is not uncommon in cats. They wanted to keep the baby overnight but I made 'big eyes' and said, 'Couldn't I take him home and watch over him?' -- I just know that I would watch and baby him like crazy and spoil him rotten while they would have to leave him overnight. They agreed. They gave him a steroid shot to decrease any inflammation and some demerol for pain and discomfort. I am to watch for any further signs of vomiting or if he hides like he feels bad and tomorrow I can start him on canned food if he feels ok. He is being a perfect angel and he has forgiven me completely. He's staring into space happy as a clam with his demerol buzz. Everytime I
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Cats can be in danger very quickly from not eating, please get some food into Shakiti. Syringe feed if you have to. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Elizabeth, How long has Shakiti not been eating? Was he eating when he first got home from the vet? I seem to remember you saying he had forgiven you and was purring, but was his activity level normal too? I can understand why you're concerned given the floss episode. Remind me, is Shakiti positive? Did he eat after he came home from the vet? Do you have baby food in the house to temp him with? Make sure it's Beechnut, not Gerbers, Gerbers can contain the dreaded onion. What are his stools like? Please let us know how he's doing and what the vet has to say. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you so much, Kerry. I'm starting to get concerned - Shakiti is hiding under the bed - and that isn't like him. I think I'm going to take him to the vet's in the morning.
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This is definitely a possibility, but Spaz has twice gone for days without eating and not had a problem. I did not know about syringe feeding until toward the end of the second time, when she finally started eating on her own. I would definitely do the syringe feeding, but I just also wanted to get it out there that it is not inevitable to have problems from not eating. Also, it is a higher chance of fatty liver if the animal is overweight, or at least that's what I've been told. Spaz is (unfortunately) pretty overweight. Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 8:06 AM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update Cats can be in danger very quickly from not eating, please get some food into Shakiti. Syringe feed if you have to. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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but Spaz has twice gone for days without eating and not had a problem This is true, I too have had sick cats that didn't want to eat much, but they were eating something and they were fine. Every cat is different and you never know which category your cat is going to fall into. It is absolutely a fact that some cats will be direly sick after not eating for only 2 days, so to me the risk isn't worth the possibility. And it is amazing how many vets don't warn people about this!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Hedidn't eat when he came home - and the vet said that I should not feed him until the next day when hecould starton canned food. That was Wednesday when I brought him home and so yesterday would have been the day to start him on canned food but he wasn't interested in that or Chicken broth. I did give him one little treat (bad idea)to try to get him to eat but he couldn't keep it down. (Shakiti is FeVL-). Once theDemerol wore off - his activity level wasfine and he seemed to be feeling well but he did get sick a few more times and it was last night that he started hiding under the bed. I don't knowif he has gone to thelitter boxes - it's so hard to tell with 8 cats. He may just still have an upset tummy and I may just be an overprotective mommy but the vet's office is closed on Saturday and Sunday and I just wanted to be sure that everything was ok and that he was getting enough fluids. I just called the vet (had to drop Shakiti off on the way to work this morning) - but they haven't had a chance to look at him yet (they had a couple of emergencies). At least withShakiti being there all day they can see if he throws up or whether he eats, etc. The doctor said he would do a CBC so at least we can see if his blood count is elevated. Doc said he may just need an antibiotic after all his trauma. I'm hoping I'm just being paranoid - but I will know for sure this afternoon when I take Mama Kitty in for her B12 shot. Thank you for the tips on the Baby Food - I could pick some up on the way to the vet's. *Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.* -Original Message-From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 05:35:57 -0700Subject: Re: Shakiti Update Elizabeth,How long has Shakiti not been eating? Was he eating when he first got home from the vet? I seem to remember you saying he had forgiven you and was purring, but was his activity level normal too? I can understand why you're concerned given the floss episode. Remind me, is Shakiti positive? Did he eat after he came home from the vet? Do you have baby food in the house to temp him with? Make sure it's Beechnut, not Gerbers, Gerbers can contain the dreaded onion. What are his stools like? Please let us know how he's doing and what the vet has to say.Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you so much, Kerry. I'm starting to get concerned - Shakiti is hiding under the bed - and that isn't like him. I think I'm going to take him to the vet's in the morning. Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
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Could you give me the specifics on syringe feeding? I know I would be worried to death about choking them. Thanks. *Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.* -Original Message-From: gwork [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:27:46 -0400Subject: Re: Shakiti Update This is definitely a possibility, but Spaz has twice gone for days without eating and not had a problem. I did not know about syringe feeding until toward the end of the second time, when she finally started eating on her own. I would definitely do the syringe feeding, but I just also wanted to get it out there that it is not inevitable to have problems from not eating. Also, it is a higher chance of fatty liver if the animal is overweight, or at least that's what I've been told. Spaz is (unfortunately) pretty overweight.Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com- Original Message - From: "Belinda" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Friday, June 23, 2006 8:06 AMSubject: Re: Shakiti Update Cats can be in danger very quickly from not eating, please get some food into Shakiti. Syringe feed if you have to. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
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I am running out so will let someone else explain how to do it, but it is not hard and I have done many many times. basically it involves using A/D, or another canned food mixed with water to the consistency of a slurry, or baby food, using 3 ml or 6 ml oral syringes (can get from vet), kneeling behind the cat, opening the mouth with one hand, putting the syringe in with the other (angled toward side of mouth, not straight back, so as not to choke them), and slowly squirting in about 1 ml at a time and letting them swallow before next squirt. Ideally you want to get about 200- 250 calories/day into them, I think. Michelle In a message dated 6/23/2006 12:38:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could you give me the specifics on syringe feeding? I know I would be worried to death about choking them. Thanks.
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Just talked to my vet and he says that all of Shakiti's vitals are good and hiswhite count is low. He's going to give him something like pepci AC (in fact - he says you can give kitties about 1/4th of a pepcid ac tablet) and gavehim a shot of Baytril. I'm going to pick him up at 3 and I'll get all the details. He's sending me home with two meds to give him for a week - one is a sulfa drug (probably Albon) and the other one is the antacid. It impressed me that the vet gave me his personal cell phone number so I can call him at home if we have more problems (I've been going there 12 years - first time I got his personal number). He told me that Shakiti probably won't eat today and may not eat tomorrow but that he is fine and he isn't dehydrated. He's giving me some of the A/C canned food to give him and says that it will beeasy on his tummy. Ithink I have some cream and may pick up a little baby food (sans onions). Wish he couldeat that chicken broth but he just isn't interested. If he's still having problems Monday then we may need to do exploratory surgery to see if there is still a strand of floss in there but we both think that Shakiti got rid of it all yesterday and that he'll be fine. Diagnosis: tummy ache. (understandably) *Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.* -Original Message-From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 06:56:55 -0500Subject: Re: Shakiti Update Shakiti has a very upset belly and throat. Ask your vet about pepscid and try soothing things like whipped cream or warm chicken soup. Consider how you would feel right now? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kerry MacKenzie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:15 AM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update Have you tried finger feeding him meantime Elizabeth? I had to do that with my Flavia and Caramel for a while--I gave them the high-cal Hills prescription food from vet--they were happy to take it from my finger. (They cdn't smell the food and if cats can't smell, they haveno inclination to eat for themselves--once it was smeared inside their mouths they were able to taste/eat it.) Can't find your orig post but so glad he coughed up the rogue floss. Love your drawings whichI saw for first time today. They are out of this world. Kerry - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update I'm just a little worried about the boy. He doesn't seem to be eating. Just tried to tempt him with some chicken broth but no such luck. He did eat a little treat but tossed it back up shortly thereafter. I may call the vet in the morning. Going down there anyway to get Mama Kitty her B12 shot. In a message dated 6/22/2006 10:03:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elizabeth,What a fantastic story!!! I am so happy that Shakiticoughed the floss up! Yea! I will pray that hecontinues to improve and by tomorrow, there are nosigns of any problems at all, and he's back to normal!:)Wendy--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As soon as the vet got in from lunch - I called him. They had been watching Shakiti all afternoon and given him peroxide as an emetic...but no sign of dental floss. We discussed the prospects of surgery. He said he really hated to do unnecessary surgery - but on the other hand didn't want to put Shakiti's health and life at risk. I told him I really did not know what would be best for my boy and he said that he would be willing for me to watch him a day or two. He felt that if Shakiti made it through Friday without any problems - he would probably be ok. I told them I would be there in a bit and that I would stay up all night with him if necessary. I said prayers all the way there. When I got there, I expected to just pay the bill - get my boy and go - but they called me back into a room and said, 'Elizabeth, we have a problem'. My heart sank. I think it stopped beating. I could feel the tears starting to burn. *graphic description alert* In a bit, the doctor and the vet tech came out with a folded towel. They opened up the towel and there were a number of spots of bright red blood along about an 8 inch streak that Shakiti had regurgitated. They told me the blood was a bad sign. They said - all day we have been watching for Shakiti to throw up and nothing...but while you were on the way here, he started to vomit.Well...I looked at it carefully...and the vet tech looked at it carefully...and then we both looked right at each other and said 'Wait a minute! What's that?!?' What was it? Just a big wad of dental floss. The doctor got some tweezers and it stretched out nearly 2 feet! *end graphic content* Oh my goodness -- you
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I just started to respond to your other email and was going to tell you I felt a whole lot better about Shakiti after you told me you had withheld food when you got home. It sounds like he just has to have his appetite jump-started. I sure do hope so. He may be less likely to want to eat after being left at the vet's again. Poor guy, he must be a nervous wreck. Do your best to be calm and optimistic Elizabeth, he'll pick up on your tension level and respond accordingly. Give him some time to relax when you get him home and tell him if he eats, you won't have to bring him to the vet's again! When and if you attempt the assist feeding, think of it like feeding a baby, (an uncooperative one with claws!). I think 1cc may be a little too much to try "squirting" in his mouth at a time, go very slow and let him taste it and decide if he may actually be hungry after all. Have a small plate ready to shove under his nose if he seems interested, he may just start eating on his own. Remember to breathe when you watch his response! I'd start with baby food because most cats like that and there's a better chance you'll pique his hunger. Instead of attempting the assist-feeding, see if you can gently finger or spoon a little food into his mouth to entice him to eat. If you are going to tempt him with cream, pick him up some goat's milk at the grocery store when you get the baby food. It's better for them than cow's milk, get the fresh instead of the canned if they have it. You might as well stock up on yummy things to temp him with while your there, so go ahead and get the cow's cream, sour cream, yogurt, fresh salmon, if he likes fish, a chick breast if he likes chicken etc., baby food, (meat flavors, no veggies or grains), and any other sort of human food you think he'll like. Dice the raw chicken/meat into very small pieces and pop a tablespoon into the microwave to just warm it, the edges will change color, but most of it will still be raw. Make sure it's not to hot and hopefully the aroma will get him eating. I hesitate to say it, but I have a very good feeling that your little trouble maker is going to be fine. P.S. I like most of what you've told us about your vet, but I don't care what he says about it being okay for Shakiti to not eat for a couple of days, do your best to get him eating again. Do you know how to test for dehydration? Lift the skin on his scruff and make sure it bounces back quickly, if it just holds the shape of your "pinch" you've got trouble. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just talked to my vet and he says that all of Shakiti's vitals are good and hiswhite count is low. He's going to give him something like pepci AC (in fact - he says you can give kitties about 1/4th of a pepcid ac tablet) and gavehim a shot of Baytril. I'm going to pick him up at 3 and I'll get all the details. He's sending me home with two meds to give him for a week - one is a sulfa drug (probably Albon) and the other one is the antacid. It impressed me that the vet gave me his personal cell phone number so I can call him at home if we have more problems (I've been going there 12 years - first time I got his personal number). He told me that Shakiti probably won't eat today and may not eat tomorrow but that he is fine and he isn't dehydrated. He's giving me some of the A/C canned food to give him and says that it will beeasy on his tummy. Ithink I have some cream and may pick up a little baby food (sans onions). Wish he couldeat that chicken broth but he just isn't interested. If he's still having problems Monday then we may need to do exploratory surgery to see if there is still a strand of floss in there but we both think that Shakiti got rid of it all yesterday and that he'll be fine. Diagnosis: tummy ache. (understandably)
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Basically syringe feeding is where you get a syringe from your vet, it can range in size from 3cc's to 60cc's. I used the 20cc's when I had to syringe feed Bailey. The easiest food to syringe is AD, it is very smooth and generally you can syringe it without thinning it with water. Some people blend it first, I used to just stir it and suck it up into the syringe, if it is too hard to suck up, just add alittle water, as little as is needed to syringe, you want to get as many calories into them as possible. With Bailey I would pick him up and hold him like you would a baby, kind of cradled on his back, but I held him up so he was kind of vertical. Then syringe about 1cc in at a time giving him time to swallow. Always go on the side of their mouth never from the front so you don't choke them. Slip the syringe in the side of his mouth and slowly squirt in about 1cc, let him swallow then syringe in another cc. Some cats don't mind it, some hate it. Bailey hated it so after about a week and a half of him hating me I got a feeding tube put in, it was much less stressful for him to be fed through the tube. Most cats do take some time to get used to it and eventually do, with Bailey the stress was bad being he was FeLV+, and I had dealt with a feeding tube before and it worked wonderfully (Buddie had a feeding tubewhen she had the liver cancer). Here are a few links that may explain it better: http://www.gorbzilla.com/syringe_feeding_faq.htm http://assistfeed.com/FelineAnorexia.htm Here's another way to do it as described by someone else who has syringe fed: http://www.geocities.com/feline_squamous_cell_cancer/Syringe_feeding.html#syringe Hopefully Shakiti will start eating on his own. With Buddie while she was sick and before her feeding tube was put in, I would dish up fancy feast, a tablespoon at a time and offer it to her every 15 minutes. She would lick a tiny bit each time, and each time a bit more. I cried the first time she ate the whole tablespoon full! I took about 3 weeks of this to finally get her eating normal again, which was risky but I kept a very close eye on her eye whites and the inside of her ears make sure they weren't getting yellow. It was later in her illness when she was getting jaundice during another bad episode that I had the feeding tube put in and she really loved it, but that's another story! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Elizabeth, I've had to syringe feed three cats in the past few months, and I can't do it the way the professionals do, with kitty between my legs. I've always had luck doing it like Belinda does, holding them like a baby. I'm more comfortable with that position. It's not hard. Just make sure they are not horizontal, so the food goes down and they don't choke. The A/D is an excellent choice for syringe feeding as they all said before, it's so smooth. Syringe feed slowly. I could get about 3-5 syringes on average down kitty at a time, depending on the situation. It would take me about 2-3 minutes per syringe, maybe less (I never timed it). Too fast, and they can't swallow fast enough and will choke. Too slow and they are more apt to put up a fight if they aren't kept busy swallowing. It's pretty easy-you will know how fast to go and how much to give. Shakiti will let you know! These last two kitties that I had that were sick finally started eating on their own, one after about five days, the other after about two. I think they both had infections (URI and a (dog bite/puncture?) wound in the armpit). You will do fine with Shakiti. Try to be confident though. If you act scared or unsure, Shakiti might pick up on it. I'd come over for you to practice on, but it would be half a day before I could get there. ;) Texas is a bit far from Alabama! Plus, I'm probably too big for you to hold like a baby. hehe. Let us know how it goes. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Mama Kitty and Shakiti Update
We just got back from the vet's. Mama Kitty has gained another 1/4th pound this week! She must be feeling a lot better since she brought me headless baby bunny #3 for the 3rd day in a row :-/ It absolutely kills me that she does that but she presents them with such pride in her eyes at the front door where they may be properly showcased. Doesn't seem that the new collar with the bell is much deterrent. I've never known her to bring gifts before - I must be very special indeed. We are through with the Acemannan treatments for now and just continuing with B12 shots as her only treatment..besides consideration to diet and supplements. I don't see any sign of her 3rd eyelid anymore and she's eating her dry food and almost a whole littlecan of food every day. She seems as healthy and alert as I have ever seen her. Shakiti is home. He instinctively went tothe community buffetbut after a minute gave a little yowl and then barfed. (Shakiti normally communicates with this same yowl...even if he justwants someone to play with him or he is talking to his 'spirit friends' that no one else can see...) I'm going to get him settled in andlet his tummy settle downand then try to get some of the A/C down him withsome gentle coaxing tonight. I also have some other goodies for him that might be easy on the tummy. I'm just trying to keep things quiet and calm. My vet is $350 richer this week but it's a small price to pay for piece of mind that my kids are ok. You guys helped me to feel I did the right thing in taking the floss incident seriously and we very well could have savedhis life. Thank you all for being there and for the excellent suggestions on the food, etc. and the moral support. elizabeth In a message dated 6/23/2006 1:26:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just started to respond to your other email and was going to tell you I felt a whole lot better about Shakiti after you told me you had withheld food when you got home. It sounds like he just has to have his appetite jump-started. I sure do hope so. He may be less likely to want to eat after being left at the vet's again. Poor guy, he must be a nervous wreck. Do your best to be calm and optimistic Elizabeth, he'll pick up on your tension level and respond accordingly. Give him some time to relax when you get him home and tell him if he eats, you won't have to bring him to the vet's again! When and if you attempt the assist feeding, think of it like feeding a baby, (an uncooperative one with claws!). I think 1cc may be a little too much to try "squirting" in his mouth at a time, go very slow and let him taste it and decide if he may actually be hungry after all. Have a small plate ready to shove under his nose if he seems interested, he may just start eating on his own. Remember to breathe when you watch his response! I'd start with baby food because most cats like that and there's a better chance you'll pique his hunger. Instead of attempting the assist-feeding, see if you can gently finger or spoon a little food into his mouth to entice him to eat.If you are going to tempt him with cream, pick him up some goat's milk at the grocery store when you get the baby food. It's better for them than cow's milk, get the fresh instead of the canned if they have it. You might as well stock up on yummy things to temp him with while your there, so go ahead and get the cow's cream, sour cream, yogurt, fresh salmon, if he likes fish, a chick breast if he likes chicken etc., baby food, (meat flavors, no veggies or grains), and any other sort of human food you think he'll like. Dice the raw chicken/meat into very small pieces and pop a tablespoon into the microwave to just warm it, the edges will change color, but most of it will still be raw. Make sure it's not to hot and hopefully the aroma will get him eating. I hesitate to say it, but I have a very good feeling that your little trouble maker is going to be fine. P.S. I like most of what you've told us about your vet, but I don't care what he says about it being okay for Shakiti to not eat for a couple of days, do your best to get him eating again. Do you know how to test for dehydration? Lift the skin on his scruff and make sure it bounces back quickly, if it just holds the shape of your "pinch" you've got trouble.Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just talked to my vet and he says that all of Shakiti's vitals are good and hiswhite count is low. He's going to give him something like pepci AC (in fact - he says you can give kitties about 1/4th of a pepcid ac tablet) and gavehim a shot of Baytril. I'm going to pick him up at 3 and I'll get all the details. He's sending me home with two meds to give him for a week - one is a sulfa drug (probably Albon) and the other one is the antacid. It impressed me that the vet gave me
Re: Shakiti Update
I put just a tiny bit of the a/d on my finger...held the boy and talked to him and then put that tiny bit just inside his teeth and he ate it. I told him how good and how smart he was. He just looked like his tummy was bothering him (the ears were a dead give-a-way)but he held it down for 30 minutes and that is the best we've done so far. I'm not going to rush it at all because I want it to stay down - but in about 30 minutes or so I think I'll give him another bite. It might make him feel better just to have a littlesomething in his tummy if he can keep it in there. In a message dated 6/23/2006 1:26:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just started to respond to your other email and was going to tell you I felt a whole lot better about Shakiti after you told me you had withheld food when you got home. It sounds like he just has to have his appetite jump-started. I sure do hope so. He may be less likely to want to eat after being left at the vet's again. Poor guy, he must be a nervous wreck. Do your best to be calm and optimistic Elizabeth, he'll pick up on your tension level and respond accordingly. Give him some time to relax when you get him home and tell him if he eats, you won't have to bring him to the vet's again! When and if you attempt the assist feeding, think of it like feeding a baby, (an uncooperative one with claws!). I think 1cc may be a little too much to try "squirting" in his mouth at a time, go very slow and let him taste it and decide if he may actually be hungry after all. Have a small plate ready to shove under his nose if he seems interested, he may just start eating on his own. Remember to breathe when you watch his response! I'd start with baby food because most cats like that and there's a better chance you'll pique his hunger. Instead of attempting the assist-feeding, see if you can gently finger or spoon a little food into his mouth to entice him to eat.If you are going to tempt him with cream, pick him up some goat's milk at the grocery store when you get the baby food. It's better for them than cow's milk, get the fresh instead of the canned if they have it. You might as well stock up on yummy things to temp him with while your there, so go ahead and get the cow's cream, sour cream, yogurt, fresh salmon, if he likes fish, a chick breast if he likes chicken etc., baby food, (meat flavors, no veggies or grains), and any other sort of human food you think he'll like. Dice the raw chicken/meat into very small pieces and pop a tablespoon into the microwave to just warm it, the edges will change color, but most of it will still be raw. Make sure it's not to hot and hopefully the aroma will get him eating. I hesitate to say it, but I have a very good feeling that your little trouble maker is going to be fine. P.S. I like most of what you've told us about your vet, but I don't care what he says about it being okay for Shakiti to not eat for a couple of days, do your best to get him eating again. Do you know how to test for dehydration? Lift the skin on his scruff and make sure it bounces back quickly, if it just holds the shape of your "pinch" you've got trouble.Nina
Re: Mama Kitty and Shakiti Update
I'm glad to hear MK is doing better, although I do feel bad for those bunnies. Are you giving her the b12 shots at home? Is that the only reason she had to go to the vet? There not hard to do, they're given subq. Why don't you ask your vet to show you how? How many bunnies do they usually have at a time? Do you think there are any left? I know your cats would be terribly upset if you kept them confined, (just long enough for those bunnies to learn how to run!), but... I keep my kids in when baby bird season is in full swing., (they all come in at night anyway). Ursula has a bell on her that is so large it seems to be dragged rather than carried, but it doesn't stop her from catching the fledglings. It takes about two days of me telling them sorry, Momma likes the birds alive, but they get the picture that I'm not going to relent and let them outside and settle down. It's very troubling that Shakiti isn't able to hold any food in his belly. I sure hope that changes with the AD. Sweet little lamb. Let's not even talk about vet bills! I swear I'm putting their kids through college all on my own. I'll be thinking of you guys, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just got back from the vet's. Mama Kitty has gained another 1/4th pound this week! She must be feeling a lot better since she brought me headless baby bunny #3 for the 3rd day in a row :-/ It absolutely kills me that she does that but she presents them with such pride in her eyes at the front door where they may be properly showcased. Doesn't seem that the new collar with the bell is much deterrent. I've never known her to bring gifts before - I must be very special indeed. We are through with the Acemannan treatments for now and just continuing with B12 shots as her only treatment..besides consideration to diet and supplements. I don't see any sign of her 3rd eyelid anymore and she's eating her dry food and almost a whole littlecan of food every day. She seems as healthy and alert as I have ever seen her. Shakiti is home. He instinctively went tothe community buffetbut after a minute gave a little yowl and then barfed. (Shakiti normally communicates with this same yowl...even if he justwants someone to play with him or he is talking to his 'spirit friends' that no one else can see...) I'm going to get him settled in andlet his tummy settle downand then try to get some of the A/C down him withsome gentle coaxing tonight. I also have some other goodies for him that might be easy on the tummy. I'm just trying to keep things quiet and calm. My vet is $350 richer this week but it's a small price to pay for piece of mind that my kids are ok. You guys helped me to feel I did the right thing in taking the floss incident seriously and we very well could have savedhis life. Thank you all for being there and for the excellent suggestions on the food, etc. and the moral support. elizabeth
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What a good boy! And what a good Momma too! Thanks for letting us know. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I put just a tiny bit of the a/d on my finger...held the boy and talked to him and then put that tiny bit just inside his teeth and he ate it. I told him how good and how smart he was. He just looked like his tummy was bothering him (the ears were a dead give-a-way)but he held it down for 30 minutes and that is the best we've done so far. I'm not going to rush it at all because I want it to stay down - but in about 30 minutes or so I think I'll give him another bite. It might make him feel better just to have a littlesomething in his tummy if he can keep it in there.
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Sending positives vibes by the zillion for Shakiti's appetite to just get better and better. (I've always found finger feeding easier than syringe -- there's something very satisfying about having them lick it off your finger too. I recall someone (who was that, guys?) in the group making us chuckle about her kitty who got to like the finger-feel method so much that he still insisted on it way after he got better--wouldn't eat any other way! Kerry - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:39 PM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update I put just a tiny bit of the a/d on my finger...held the boy and talked to him and then put that tiny bit just inside his teeth and he ate it. I told him how good and how smart he was. He just looked like his tummy was bothering him (the ears were a dead give-a-way)but he held it down for 30 minutes and that is the best we've done so far. I'm not going to rush it at all because I want it to stay down - but in about 30 minutes or so I think I'll give him another bite. It might make him feel better just to have a littlesomething in his tummy if he can keep it in there. In a message dated 6/23/2006 1:26:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just started to respond to your other email and was going to tell you I felt a whole lot better about Shakiti after you told me you had withheld food when you got home. It sounds like he just has to have his appetite jump-started. I sure do hope so. He may be less likely to want to eat after being left at the vet's again. Poor guy, he must be a nervous wreck. Do your best to be calm and optimistic Elizabeth, he'll pick up on your tension level and respond accordingly. Give him some time to relax when you get him home and tell him if he eats, you won't have to bring him to the vet's again! When and if you attempt the assist feeding, think of it like feeding a baby, (an uncooperative one with claws!). I think 1cc may be a little too much to try "squirting" in his mouth at a time, go very slow and let him taste it and decide if he may actually be hungry after all. Have a small plate ready to shove under his nose if he seems interested, he may just start eating on his own. Remember to breathe when you watch his response! I'd start with baby food because most cats like that and there's a better chance you'll pique his hunger. Instead of attempting the assist-feeding, see if you can gently finger or spoon a little food into his mouth to entice him to eat.If you are going to tempt him with cream, pick him up some goat's milk at the grocery store when you get the baby food. It's better for them than cow's milk, get the fresh instead of the canned if they have it. You might as well stock up on yummy things to temp him with while your there, so go ahead and get the cow's cream, sour cream, yogurt, fresh salmon, if he likes fish, a chick breast if he likes chicken etc., baby food, (meat flavors, no veggies or grains), and any other sort of human food you think he'll like. Dice the raw chicken/meat into very small pieces and pop a tablespoon into the microwave to just warm it, the edges will change color, but most of it will still be raw. Make sure it's not to hot and hopefully the aroma will get him eating. I hesitate to say it, but I have a very good feeling that your little trouble maker is going to be fine. P.S. I like most of what you've told us about your vet, but I don't care what he says about it being okay for Shakiti to not eat for a couple of days, do your best to get him eating again. Do you know how to test for dehydration? Lift the skin on his scruff and make sure it bounces back quickly, if it just holds the shape of your "pinch" you've got trouble.Nina
Re: Mama Kitty and Shakiti Update
I'm with you on the bunny thing. She has never hurt any wild creatures before - and I keep 10 bird feeders (it's cat TV ya know). Even with baby birds on my porch 3 feet from the front door she's never beforehad the slightest inclination to do harm. Mama is the only one who goes outside unescorted. I have baby bunnies every year (usually in the oregano patch) and I'm not sure how many are in a litter. I think I may keep her in over the weekend. She usually stays right on the porch and never leaves the yard but she's been a very bad girl these past 3 days. I found her this afternoon underneath the pompous grass and so I'm wondering if that isn't where the bunnies are. It's hard to scold her when she is so radiant...feeling good and so proud of herself. Yes - the B12 shot was the only reason Mama went in today(that and to weigh) - but you are right there is no reason why I couldn't learn to do that myself. To be honest, lately I've thought that with so many cats it might not be a bad idea to train as a vet tech. (of course, I have about as much spare time as an ant at a picnic). I will askthe doctorabout that. He only charges me about $10 for the shot anyway - and I couldn't ask for one who is more understanding. In a message dated 6/23/2006 5:48:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm glad to hear MK is doing better, although I do feel bad for those bunnies. Are you giving her the b12 shots at home? Is that the only reason she had to go to the vet? There not hard to do, they're given subq. Why don't you ask your vet to show you how? How many bunnies do they usually have at a time? Do you think there are any left? I know your cats would be terribly upset if you kept them confined, (just long enough for those bunnies to learn how to run!), but... I keep my kids in when baby bird season is in full swing., (they all come in at night anyway). Ursula has a bell on her that is so large it seems to be dragged rather than carried, but it doesn't stop her from catching the fledglings. It takes about two days of me telling them sorry, Momma likes the birds alive, but they get the picture that I'm not going to relent and let them outside and settle down.It's very troubling that Shakiti isn't able to hold any food in his belly. I sure hope that changes with the AD. Sweet little lamb. Let's not even talk about vet bills! I swear I'm putting their kids through college all on my own. I'll be thinking of you guys,Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just got back from the vet's. Mama Kitty has gained another 1/4th pound this week! She must be feeling a lot better since she brought me headless baby bunny #3 for the 3rd day in a row :-/ It absolutely kills me that she does that but she presents them with such pride in her eyes at the front door where they may be properly showcased. Doesn't seem that the new collar with the bell is much deterrent. I've never known her to bring gifts before - I must be very special indeed. We are through with the Acemannan treatments for now and just continuing with B12 shots as her only treatment..besides consideration to diet and supplements. I don't see any sign of her 3rd eyelid anymore and she's eating her dry food and almost a whole littlecan of food every day. She seems as healthy and alert as I have ever seen her. Shakiti is home. He instinctively went tothe community buffetbut after a minute gave a little yowl and then barfed. (Shakiti normally communicates with this same yowl...even if he justwants someone to play with him or he is talking to his 'spirit friends' that no one else can see...) I'm going to get him settled in andlet his tummy settle downand then try to get some of the A/C down him withsome gentle coaxing tonight. I also have some other goodies for him that might be easy on the tummy. I'm just trying to keep things quiet and calm. My vet is $350 richer this week but it's a small price to pay for piece of mind that my kids are ok. You guys helped me to feel I did the right thing in taking the floss incident seriously and we very well could have savedhis life. Thank you all for being there and for the excellent suggestions on the food, etc. and the moral support. elizabeth
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Thank you so much, Kerry. We've made it through round two and so far so good. That is so funny about insisting on being finger-fed.I thinkcats understand a lot more about what's going on than most people give them credit for...they really dounderstand when you are trying to help them. In a message dated 6/23/2006 6:03:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sending positives vibes by the zillion for Shakiti's appetite to just get better and better. (I've always found finger feeding easier than syringe -- there's something very satisfying about having them lick it off your finger too. I recall someone (who was that, guys?) in the group making us chuckle about her kitty who got to like the finger-feel method so much that he still insisted on it way after he got better--wouldn't eat any other way! Kerry - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:39 PM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update I put just a tiny bit of the a/d on my finger...held the boy and talked to him and then put that tiny bit just inside his teeth and he ate it. I told him how good and how smart he was. He just looked like his tummy was bothering him (the ears were a dead give-a-way)but he held it down for 30 minutes and that is the best we've done so far. I'm not going to rush it at all because I want it to stay down - but in about 30 minutes or so I think I'll give him another bite. It might make him feel better just to have a littlesomething in his tummy if he can keep it in there. In a message dated 6/23/2006 1:26:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just started to respond to your other email and was going to tell you I felt a whole lot better about Shakiti after you told me you had withheld food when you got home. It sounds like he just has to have his appetite jump-started. I sure do hope so. He may be less likely to want to eat after being left at the vet's again. Poor guy, he must be a nervous wreck. Do your best to be calm and optimistic Elizabeth, he'll pick up on your tension level and respond accordingly. Give him some time to relax when you get him home and tell him if he eats, you won't have to bring him to the vet's again! When and if you attempt the assist feeding, think of it like feeding a baby, (an uncooperative one with claws!). I think 1cc may be a little too much to try "squirting" in his mouth at a time, go very slow and let him taste it and decide if he may actually be hungry after all. Have a small plate ready to shove under his nose if he seems interested, he may just start eating on his own. Remember to breathe when you watch his response! I'd start with baby food because most cats like that and there's a better chance you'll pique his hunger. Instead of attempting the assist-feeding, see if you can gently finger or spoon a little food into his mouth to entice him to eat.If you are going to tempt him with cream, pick him up some goat's milk at the grocery store when you get the baby food. It's better for them than cow's milk, get the fresh instead of the canned if they have it. You might as well stock up on yummy things to temp him with while your there, so go ahead and get the cow's cream, sour cream, yogurt, fresh salmon, if he likes fish, a chick breast if he likes chicken etc., baby food, (meat flavors, no veggies or grains), and any other sort of human food you think he'll like. Dice the raw chicken/meat into very small pieces and pop a tablespoon into the microwave to just warm it, the edges will change color, but most of it will still be raw. Make sure it's not to hot and hopefully the aroma will get him eating. I hesitate to say it, but I have a very good feeling that your little trouble maker is going to be fine. P.S. I like most of what you've told us about your vet, but I don't care what he says about it being okay for Shakiti to not eat for a couple of days, do your best to get him eating again. Do you know how to test for dehydration? Lift the skin on his scruff and make sure it bounces back quickly, if it just holds the shape of your "pinch" you've got trouble.Nina
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I agree - I just didn't want her to think that absolutely, without a doubt, if she is for some reason unable to get food into him, that he will be in serious trouble and utterly panic. Kind of along the lines of that panic thing we are dissatisfied with the vet community about. At least to me, anyway. I am fortunate that my vets did warn me about it, but one almost went ballistic and scared me panic-like, and, in my opinion, unnecessarily. But like I said, I would definitely do the syringe feeding. Like you said, no sense in taking any unnecessary risk. Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 12:12 PM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update but Spaz has twice gone for days without eating and not had a problem This is true, I too have had sick cats that didn't want to eat much, but they were eating something and they were fine. Every cat is different and you never know which category your cat is going to fall into. It is absolutely a fact that some cats will be direly sick after not eating for only 2 days, so to me the risk isn't worth the possibility. And it is amazing how many vets don't warn people about this!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Even yarn will do it. The Royal Princess Kitty Katt adored eating rubberbands---can you imagine the problems they would cause If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: gwork To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update OH MY GOODNESS!!! I almost could not read to the end, I was so uptight. But I am so glad for you I'm sure everyone knows this, but just in case, also keep Christmas tinsel away. Part of the problem with floss is that it's, many times, mint-flavored and the cats love that mint. Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:36 PM Subject: Shakiti Update As soon as the vet got in from lunch - I called him. They had been watchingShakiti all afternoon and given him peroxide as an emetic...but no sign of dental floss. We discussed theprospects of surgery.He said he really hated to do unnecessary surgery - but on the other hand didn't want to putShakiti's health and lifeatrisk.I told him I really did not know what would be best for my boy and he said that he would be willing for me to watch him a day or two. He felt that if Shakiti made it through Friday without any problems - he would probably be ok. I told them I would be there in a bit and that I would stay up all night with him if necessary. I said prayers all the way there. When I got there, I expected to just pay the bill - get my boy and go- butthey called me back into a room and said, 'Elizabeth, we have a problem'. My heart sank. I think it stopped beating. I could feel the tears starting to burn. *graphic description alert* In a bit, the doctor and the vet tech came out with a folded towel. They opened up the towel and therewere a number ofspots of bright red blood along about an 8 inch streakthat Shakitihad regurgitated. They told methe blood was a bad sign. They said - all day we have been watching for Shakiti to throw up and nothing...but while you were on the way here, he started to vomit. Well...I looked at it carefully...and the vet tech looked at it carefully...and then we both looked right at each other andsaid 'Wait a minute! What's that?!?' What was it? Just a big wad of dental floss. The doctor got some tweezers and it stretched out nearly 2 feet! *end graphic content* Oh my goodness -- you can't imagine the waves of relief and the change in my face, the doctor's face and the vet tech's face. It was the whole piece - unbroken. The doctor believes now that the blood must have been from retching the foul thing up -- he said that is not uncommon in cats. They wanted to keep the baby overnight but I made 'big eyes' and said, 'Couldn't I take him home and watch over him?' -- I just know that I would watch and baby him like crazy and spoil him rottenwhile they would have to leave him overnight. They agreed. They gave him a steroid shot to decrease any inflammation and some demerol for pain and discomfort. I am to watch for any further signs of vomiting or if he hides like he feels badand tomorrow I can start him on canned food if he feels ok. He is being a perfect angel and he has forgiven me completely. He's staring into space happy as a clam with his demerol buzz. Everytime I tell him how good he is - he smiles at me and purrs. Oh! And the great news is the Shakiti tested negative for FeVL today. His shots are up to date and as soon as he feels better he canwreak havoc and pester Tiffany just like good ol' times. Mama Kitty still looks great -- although I've got to have a little discussion with her about the headless baby bunny gift she left for me this afternoon. Thanks for being there you guysyou rock. p.s. Always, always flush your floss. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/370 - Release Date: 6/20/2006
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Oh yes, I forgot about these - good thinking!, and also, twist ties! Anything of the like, really. Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:50 AM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update Even yarn will do it. The Royal Princess Kitty Katt adored eating rubberbands---can you imagine the problems they would cause If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: gwork To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update OH MY GOODNESS!!! I almost could not read to the end, I was so uptight. But I am so glad for you I'm sure everyone knows this, but just in case, also keep Christmas tinsel away. Part of the problem with floss is that it's, many times, mint-flavored and the cats love that mint. Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:36 PM Subject: Shakiti Update As soon as the vet got in from lunch - I called him. They had been watchingShakiti all afternoon and given him peroxide as an emetic...but no sign of dental floss. We discussed theprospects of surgery.He said he really hated to do unnecessary surgery - but on the other hand didn't want to putShakiti's health and lifeatrisk.I told him I really did not know what would be best for my boy and he said that he would be willing for me to watch him a day or two. He felt that if Shakiti made it through Friday without any problems - he would probably be ok. I told them I would be there in a bit and that I would stay up all night with him if necessary. I said prayers all the way there. When I got there, I expected to just pay the bill - get my boy and go- butthey called me back into a room and said, 'Elizabeth, we have a problem'. My heart sank. I think it stopped beating. I could feel the tears starting to burn. *graphic description alert* In a bit, the doctor and the vet tech came out with a folded towel. They opened up the towel and therewere a number ofspots of bright red blood along about an 8 inch streakthat Shakitihad regurgitated. They told methe blood was a bad sign. They said - all day we have been watching for Shakiti to throw up and nothing...but while you were on the way here, he started to vomit. Well...I looked at it carefully...and the vet tech looked at it carefully...and then we both looked right at each other andsaid 'Wait a minute! What's that?!?' What was it? Just a big wad of dental floss. The doctor got some tweezers and it stretched out nearly 2 feet! *end graphic content* Oh my goodness -- you can't imagine the waves of relief and the change in my face, the doctor's face and the vet tech's face. It was the whole piece - unbroken. The doctor believes now that the blood must have been from retching the foul thing up -- he said that is not uncommon in cats. They wanted to keep the baby overnight but I made 'big eyes' and said, 'Couldn't I take him home and watch over him?' -- I just know that I would watch and baby him like crazy and spoil him rottenwhile they would have to leave him overnight. They agreed. They gave him a steroid shot to decrease any inflammation and some demerol for pain and discomfort. I am to watch for any further signs of vomiting or if he hides like he feels badand tomorrow I can start him on canned food if he feels ok. He is being a perfect angel and he has forgiven me completely. He's staring into space happy as a clam with his demerol buzz. Everytime I tell him how good he is - he smiles at me and purrs. Oh! And the great news is the Shakiti tested negative for FeVL today. His shots are up to date and as soon as he feels better he canwreak havoc and pester Tiffany just like good ol' times. Mama Kitty still looks great -- although I've got to have a little discussion with her about the headless baby bunny gift she left for me this afternoon. Thanks for being there you guysyou rock. p.s. Always, always flush your floss
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No one should have to go thru this. Mai Mai (a beautiful dog who chose to live with me) swallowed a rag. Luckily she threw it up but all the heaving caused problems. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: gwork To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update Oh yes, I forgot about these - good thinking!, and also, twist ties! Anything of the like, really. Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:50 AM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update Even yarn will do it. The Royal Princess Kitty Katt adored eating rubberbands---can you imagine the problems they would cause If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: gwork To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update OH MY GOODNESS!!! I almost could not read to the end, I was so uptight. But I am so glad for you I'm sure everyone knows this, but just in case, also keep Christmas tinsel away. Part of the problem with floss is that it's, many times, mint-flavored and the cats love that mint. Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:36 PM Subject: Shakiti Update As soon as the vet got in from lunch - I called him. They had been watchingShakiti all afternoon and given him peroxide as an emetic...but no sign of dental floss. We discussed theprospects of surgery.He said he really hated to do unnecessary surgery - but on the other hand didn't want to putShakiti's health and lifeatrisk.I told him I really did not know what would be best for my boy and he said that he would be willing for me to watch him a day or two. He felt that if Shakiti made it through Friday without any problems - he would probably be ok. I told them I would be there in a bit and that I would stay up all night with him if necessary. I said prayers all the way there. When I got there, I expected to just pay the bill - get my boy and go- butthey called me back into a room and said, 'Elizabeth, we have a problem'. My heart sank. I think it stopped beating. I could feel the tears starting to burn. *graphic description alert* In a bit, the doctor and the vet tech came out with a folded towel. They opened up the towel and therewere a number ofspots of bright red blood along about an 8 inch streakthat Shakitihad regurgitated. They told methe blood was a bad sign. They said - all day we have been watching for Shakiti to throw up and nothing...but while you were on the way here, he started to vomit. Well...I looked at it carefully...and the vet tech looked at it carefully...and then we both looked right at each other andsaid 'Wait a minute! What's that?!?' What was it? Just a big wad of dental floss. The doctor got some tweezers and it stretched out nearly 2 feet! *end graphic content* Oh my goodness -- you can't imagine the waves of relief and the change in my face, the doctor's face and the vet tech's face. It was the whole piece - unbroken. The doctor believes now that the blood must have been from retching the foul thing up -- he said that is not uncommon in cats. They wanted to keep the baby overnight but I made 'big eyes' and said, 'Couldn't I take him home and watch over him?' -- I just know that I would watch and baby him like crazy and spoil him rottenwhile they would have to leave him overnight. They agreed. They gave him a steroid shot to decrease any inflammation and some demerol for pain and discomfort. I am to watch for any further signs of vomiting or if he hides like he feels badand tomorrow I can start him on canned food if he feels ok
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Elizabeth, What a fantastic story!!! I am so happy that Shakiti coughed the floss up! Yea! I will pray that he continues to improve and by tomorrow, there are no signs of any problems at all, and he's back to normal! :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As soon as the vet got in from lunch - I called him. They had been watching Shakiti all afternoon and given him peroxide as an emetic...but no sign of dental floss. We discussed the prospects of surgery. He said he really hated to do unnecessary surgery - but on the other hand didn't want to put Shakiti's health and life at risk. I told him I really did not know what would be best for my boy and he said that he would be willing for me to watch him a day or two. He felt that if Shakiti made it through Friday without any problems - he would probably be ok. I told them I would be there in a bit and that I would stay up all night with him if necessary. I said prayers all the way there. When I got there, I expected to just pay the bill - get my boy and go - but they called me back into a room and said, 'Elizabeth, we have a problem'. My heart sank. I think it stopped beating. I could feel the tears starting to burn. *graphic description alert* In a bit, the doctor and the vet tech came out with a folded towel. They opened up the towel and there were a number of spots of bright red blood along about an 8 inch streak that Shakiti had regurgitated. They told me the blood was a bad sign. They said - all day we have been watching for Shakiti to throw up and nothing...but while you were on the way here, he started to vomit. Well...I looked at it carefully...and the vet tech looked at it carefully...and then we both looked right at each other and said 'Wait a minute! What's that?!?' What was it? Just a big wad of dental floss. The doctor got some tweezers and it stretched out nearly 2 feet! *end graphic content* Oh my goodness -- you can't imagine the waves of relief and the change in my face, the doctor's face and the vet tech's face. It was the whole piece - unbroken. The doctor believes now that the blood must have been from retching the foul thing up -- he said that is not uncommon in cats. They wanted to keep the baby overnight but I made 'big eyes' and said, 'Couldn't I take him home and watch over him?' -- I just know that I would watch and baby him like crazy and spoil him rotten while they would have to leave him overnight. They agreed. They gave him a steroid shot to decrease any inflammation and some demerol for pain and discomfort. I am to watch for any further signs of vomiting or if he hides like he feels bad and tomorrow I can start him on canned food if he feels ok. He is being a perfect angel and he has forgiven me completely. He's staring into space happy as a clam with his demerol buzz. Everytime I tell him how good he is - he smiles at me and purrs. Oh! And the great news is the Shakiti tested negative for FeVL today. His shots are up to date and as soon as he feels better he can wreak havoc and pester Tiffany just like good ol' times. Mama Kitty still looks great -- although I've got to have a little discussion with her about the headless baby bunny gift she left for me this afternoon. Thanks for being there you guysyou rock. p.s. Always, always flush your floss. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I'm very happy for you and Shakiti!!Gina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Oh my god this email scared the hell out of me...I didn't know whether I wanted to continue reading about Shakiti.Oh I'm so relieved now! Bless your Vet! YAY for Shakiti on her tests! Glad for Mama Kitty too!P.S. I heard a lot of stuff in my time but the "Headless Bunny" cracks me up somthing fierce. I will remember that!In a message dated 6/21/2006 4:38:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:As soon as the vet got in from lunch - I called him. They had been watchingShakiti all afternoon and given him peroxide as an emetic...but no sign of dental floss. We discussed theprospects of surgery.He said he really hated to do unnecessary surgery - but on the other hand didn't want to putShakiti's health and lifeatrisk.I told him I really did not know what would be best for my boy and he said that he would be willing for me to watch him a day or two. He felt that if Shakiti made it through Friday without any problems - he would probably be ok. I told them I would be there in a bit and that I would stay up all night with him if necessary. I said prayers all the way there. When I got there, I expected to just pay the bill - get my boy and go- butthey called me back into a room and said, 'Elizabeth, we have a problem'. My heart sank. I think it stopped beating. I could feel the tears starting to burn.*graphic description alert* In a bit, the doctor and the vet tech came out with a folded towel. They opened up the towel and therewere a number ofspots of bright red blood along about an 8 inch streakthat Shakitihad regurgitated. They told methe blood was a bad sign. They said - all day we have been watching for Shakiti to throw up and nothing...but while you were on the way here, he started to vomit. Well...I looked at it carefully...and the vet tech looked at it carefully...and then we both looked right at each other andsaid 'Wait a minute! What's that?!?' What was it? Just a big wad of dental floss. The doctor got some tweezers and it stretched out nearly 2 feet! *end graphic content*Oh my goodness -- you can't imagine the waves of relief and the change in my face, the doctor's face and the vet tech's face. It was the whole piece - unbroken. The doctor believes now that the blood must have been from retching the foul thing up -- he said that is not uncommon in cats.They wanted to keep the baby overnight but I made 'big eyes' and said, 'Couldn't I take him home and watch over him?' -- I just know that I would watch and baby him like crazy and spoil him rottenwhile they would have to leave him overnight. They agreed. They gave him a steroid shot to decrease any inflammation and some demerol for pain and discomfort. I am to watch for any further signs of vomiting or if he hides like he feels badand tomorrow I can start him on canned food if he feels ok.He is being a perfect angel and he has forgiven me completely. He's staring into space happy as a clam with his demerol buzz. Everytime I tell him how good he is - he smiles at me and purrs. Oh! And the great news is the Shakiti tested negative for FeVL today. His shots are up to date and as soon as he feels better he canwreak havoc and pester Tiffany just like good ol' times.Mama Kitty still looks great -- although I've got to have a little discussion with her about the headless baby bunny gift she left for me this afternoon.Thanks for being there you guysyou rock.p.s. Always, always flush your floss. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescueNo heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less.
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I'm just a little worried about the boy. He doesn't seem to be eating. Just tried to tempt him with some chicken broth but no such luck. He did eat a little treat but tossed it back up shortly thereafter. I may call the vet in the morning. Going down there anyway to get Mama Kitty her B12 shot. In a message dated 6/22/2006 10:03:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elizabeth,What a fantastic story!!! I am so happy that Shakiticoughed the floss up! Yea! I will pray that hecontinues to improve and by tomorrow, there are nosigns of any problems at all, and he's back to normal!:)Wendy--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As soon as the vet got in from lunch - I called him. They had been watching Shakiti all afternoon and given him peroxide as an emetic...but no sign of dental floss. We discussed the prospects of surgery. He said he really hated to do unnecessary surgery - but on the other hand didn't want to put Shakiti's health and life at risk. I told him I really did not know what would be best for my boy and he said that he would be willing for me to watch him a day or two. He felt that if Shakiti made it through Friday without any problems - he would probably be ok. I told them I would be there in a bit and that I would stay up all night with him if necessary. I said prayers all the way there. When I got there, I expected to just pay the bill - get my boy and go - but they called me back into a room and said, 'Elizabeth, we have a problem'. My heart sank. I think it stopped beating. I could feel the tears starting to burn. *graphic description alert* In a bit, the doctor and the vet tech came out with a folded towel. They opened up the towel and there were a number of spots of bright red blood along about an 8 inch streak that Shakiti had regurgitated. They told me the blood was a bad sign. They said - all day we have been watching for Shakiti to throw up and nothing...but while you were on the way here, he started to vomit. Well...I looked at it carefully...and the vet tech looked at it carefully...and then we both looked right at each other and said 'Wait a minute! What's that?!?' What was it? Just a big wad of dental floss. The doctor got some tweezers and it stretched out nearly 2 feet! *end graphic content* Oh my goodness -- you can't imagine the waves of relief and the change in my face, the doctor's face and the vet tech's face. It was the whole piece - unbroken. The doctor believes now that the blood must have been from retching the foul thing up -- he said that is not uncommon in cats. They wanted to keep the baby overnight but I made 'big eyes' and said, 'Couldn't I take him home and watch over him?' -- I just know that I would watch and baby him like crazy and spoil him rotten while they would have to leave him overnight. They agreed. They gave him a steroid shot to decrease any inflammation and some demerol for pain and discomfort. I am to watch for any further signs of vomiting or if he hides like he feels bad and tomorrow I can start him on canned food if he feels ok. He is being a perfect angel and he has forgiven me completely. He's staring into space happy as a clam with his demerol buzz. Everytime I tell him how good he is - he smiles at me and purrs. Oh! And the great news is the Shakiti tested negative for FeVL today. His shots are up to date and as soon as he feels better he can wreak havoc and pester Tiffany just like good ol' times. Mama Kitty still looks great -- although I've got to have a little discussion with her about the headless baby bunny gift she left for me this afternoon. Thanks for being there you guysyou rock. p.s. Always, always flush your floss. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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As soon as the vet got in from lunch - I called him. They had been watchingShakiti all afternoon and given him peroxide as an emetic...but no sign of dental floss. We discussed theprospects of surgery.He said he really hated to do unnecessary surgery - but on the other hand didn't want to putShakiti's health and lifeatrisk.I told him I really did not know what would be best for my boy and he said that he would be willing for me to watch him a day or two. He felt that if Shakiti made it through Friday without any problems - he would probably be ok. I told them I would be there in a bit and that I would stay up all night with him if necessary. I said prayers all the way there. When I got there, I expected to just pay the bill - get my boy and go- butthey called me back into a room and said, 'Elizabeth, we have a problem'. My heart sank. I think it stopped beating. I could feel the tears starting to burn. *graphic description alert* In a bit, the doctor and the vet tech came out with a folded towel. They opened up the towel and therewere a number ofspots of bright red blood along about an 8 inch streakthat Shakitihad regurgitated. They told methe blood was a bad sign. They said - all day we have been watching for Shakiti to throw up and nothing...but while you were on the way here, he started to vomit. Well...I looked at it carefully...and the vet tech looked at it carefully...and then we both looked right at each other andsaid 'Wait a minute! What's that?!?' What was it? Just a big wad of dental floss. The doctor got some tweezers and it stretched out nearly 2 feet! *end graphic content* Oh my goodness -- you can't imagine the waves of relief and the change in my face, the doctor's face and the vet tech's face. It was the whole piece - unbroken. The doctor believes now that the blood must have been from retching the foul thing up -- he said that is not uncommon in cats. They wanted to keep the baby overnight but I made 'big eyes' and said, 'Couldn't I take him home and watch over him?' -- I just know that I would watch and baby him like crazy and spoil him rottenwhile they would have to leave him overnight. They agreed. They gave him a steroid shot to decrease any inflammation and some demerol for pain and discomfort. I am to watch for any further signs of vomiting or if he hides like he feels badand tomorrow I can start him on canned food if he feels ok. He is being a perfect angel and he has forgiven me completely. He's staring into space happy as a clam with his demerol buzz. Everytime I tell him how good he is - he smiles at me and purrs. Oh! And the great news is the Shakiti tested negative for FeVL today. His shots are up to date and as soon as he feels better he canwreak havoc and pester Tiffany just like good ol' times. Mama Kitty still looks great -- although I've got to have a little discussion with her about the headless baby bunny gift she left for me this afternoon. Thanks for being there you guysyou rock. p.s. Always, always flush your floss.
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What a relief! Give that sweet Shakiti a squeeze and head bump from me! I'm glad he's forgiven you and is happy to be home. Oh, and thank you for the "graphic description" start and end demarcations! It would be nice if everyone with horror stories to tell would give us such content warnings! Nina Oh my goodness -- you can't imagine the waves of relief and the change in my face, the doctor's face and the vet tech's face. It was the whole piece - unbroken. The doctor believes now that the blood must have been from retching the foul thing up -- he said that is not uncommon in cats.
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oops I'm sorry I meant him not her...I hate it when I type too fast and send emails off suddenly! Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
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ditto! awesome news! =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here -- www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 8:27 PM Subject: Re: Shakiti Update Oh my god this email scared the hell out of me...I didn't know whether I wanted to continue reading about Shakiti. Oh I'm so relieved now! Bless your Vet! YAY for Shakiti on her tests! Glad for Mama Kitty too! P.S. I heard a lot of stuff in my time but the "Headless Bunny" cracks me up somthing fierce. I will remember that! In a message dated 6/21/2006 4:38:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As soon as the vet got in from lunch - I called him. They had been watchingShakiti all afternoon and given him peroxide as an emetic...but no sign of dental floss. We discussed theprospects of surgery.He said he really hated to do unnecessary surgery - but on the other hand didn't want to putShakiti's health and lifeatrisk.I told him I really did not know what would be best for my boy and he said that he would be willing for me to watch him a day or two. He felt that if Shakiti made it through Friday without any problems - he would probably be ok. I told them I would be there in a bit and that I would stay up all night with him if necessary. I said prayers all the way there. When I got there, I expected to just pay the bill - get my boy and go- butthey called me back into a room and said, 'Elizabeth, we have a problem'. My heart sank. I think it stopped beating. I could feel the tears starting to burn. *graphic description alert* In a bit, the doctor and the vet tech came out with a folded towel. They opened up the towel and therewere a number ofspots of bright red blood along about an 8 inch streakthat Shakitihad regurgitated. They told methe blood was a bad sign. They said - all day we have been watching for Shakiti to throw up and nothing...but while you were on the way here, he started to vomit. Well...I looked at it carefully...and the vet tech looked at it carefully...and then we both looked right at each other andsaid 'Wait a minute! What's that?!?' What was it? Just a big wad of dental floss. The doctor got some tweezers and it stretched out nearly 2 feet! *end graphic content* Oh my goodness -- you can't imagine the waves of relief and the change in my face, the doctor's face and the vet tech's face. It was the whole piece - unbroken. The doctor believes now that the blood must have been from retching the foul thing up -- he said that is not uncommon in cats. They wanted to keep the baby overnight but I made 'big eyes' and said, 'Couldn't I take him home and watch over him?' -- I just know that I would watch and baby him like crazy and spoil him rottenwhile they would have to leave him overnight. They agreed. They gave him a steroid shot to decrease any inflammation and some demerol for pain and discomfort. I am to watch for any further signs of vomiting or if he hides like he feels badand tomorrow I can start him on canned food if he feels ok. He is being a perfect angel and he has forgiven me completely. He's staring into space happy as a clam with his demerol buzz. Everytime I tell him how good he is - he smiles at me and purrs. Oh! And the great news is the Shakiti tested negative for FeVL today. His shots are up to date and as soon as he feels better he canwreak havoc and pester Tiffany just like good ol' times. Mama Kitty still looks great -- although I've got to have a little discussion with her about the headless baby bunny gift she left for me this afternoon. Thanks for being there you guysyou rock. p.s. Always, always flush your floss. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aolcom/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.pet
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I'm so glad to hear that Shakiti was able to get the dental floss out on his own. Hope he's back to his usual self tomorrow. :) -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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OH MY GOODNESS!!! I almost could not read to the end, I was so uptight. But I am so glad for you I'm sure everyone knows this, but just in case, also keep Christmas tinsel away. Part of the problem with floss is that it's, many times, mint-flavored and the cats love that mint. Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:36 PM Subject: Shakiti Update As soon as the vet got in from lunch - I called him. They had been watchingShakiti all afternoon and given him peroxide as an emetic...but no sign of dental floss. We discussed theprospects of surgery.He said he really hated to do unnecessary surgery - but on the other hand didn't want to putShakiti's health and lifeatrisk.I told him I really did not know what would be best for my boy and he said that he would be willing for me to watch him a day or two. He felt that if Shakiti made it through Friday without any problems - he would probably be ok. I told them I would be there in a bit and that I would stay up all night with him if necessary. I said prayers all the way there. When I got there, I expected to just pay the bill - get my boy and go- butthey called me back into a room and said, 'Elizabeth, we have a problem'. My heart sank. I think it stopped beating. I could feel the tears starting to burn. *graphic description alert* In a bit, the doctor and the vet tech came out with a folded towel. They opened up the towel and therewere a number ofspots of bright red blood along about an 8 inch streakthat Shakitihad regurgitated. They told methe blood was a bad sign. They said - all day we have been watching for Shakiti to throw up and nothing...but while you were on the way here, he started to vomit. Well...I looked at it carefully...and the vet tech looked at it carefully...and then we both looked right at each other andsaid 'Wait a minute! What's that?!?' What was it? Just a big wad of dental floss. The doctor got some tweezers and it stretched out nearly 2 feet! *end graphic content* Oh my goodness -- you can't imagine the waves of relief and the change in my face, the doctor's face and the vet tech's face. It was the whole piece - unbroken. The doctor believes now that the blood must have been from retching the foul thing up -- he said that is not uncommon in cats. They wanted to keep the baby overnight but I made 'big eyes' and said, 'Couldn't I take him home and watch over him?' -- I just know that I would watch and baby him like crazy and spoil him rottenwhile they would have to leave him overnight. They agreed. They gave him a steroid shot to decrease any inflammation and some demerol for pain and discomfort. I am to watch for any further signs of vomiting or if he hides like he feels badand tomorrow I can start him on canned food if he feels ok. He is being a perfect angel and he has forgiven me completely. He's staring into space happy as a clam with his demerol buzz. Everytime I tell him how good he is - he smiles at me and purrs. Oh! And the great news is the Shakiti tested negative for FeVL today. His shots are up to date and as soon as he feels better he canwreak havoc and pester Tiffany just like good ol' times. Mama Kitty still looks great -- although I've got to have a little discussion with her about the headless baby bunny gift she left for me this afternoon. Thanks for being there you guysyou rock. p.s. Always, always flush your floss.
