Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan
Susan,I only used it with one cat and that's when she was trying to throw a very bad uri and herpes. Both eyes were swollen, and she had to be put on viroptic for that as well.I pulled her through and she was good for at least 6 more years. When I did lose her it was to another uri.If you are willing to go through the protocol I would say do it. I also had to do it iv at the vet's office. Unfortunately CC was semi- feral when I got her. She had calmed down. But after going through all the vet visits, etc... to get her well that first time, she was mostly feral. If she had not been I would have kept up the immunoregulin.tonyaSusan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been going to ask the same question - if anyone has experience with this. I have a little 14mo old feleuk+ baby, Daisy, who is not only a joy to me but to all my kids at school. I want to go the extra mile with her from the beginning - there would be so many more people than just me to be heartbroken at her death.I have just gotten immuno-regulan for monthly doses for a 10 yr old feleuk girl, Calico, who just came into our rescue group. She has been maintained on monthly shots for 7-8 years so we are going to keep it up. Daisy gets daily interferon but she still has trouble throwing URI's - and she is underweight. I just have the gut feeling that she isn't going to be a really long-term survivor. I have been thinking about adding the immunoregulan to what she gets. All my info says that it has to be IV. Found a protocol - don't remember exactly but you start off with daily shots andwork upto monthy. Is that what everyone uses? Does anyone have experience with any better rusults using both that and interferon? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:It helped Ginger get over a bad URI last spring, and Patches get over pneumonia a few years ago. MichelleIn a message dated 2/15/2006 10:54:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anybody else have experience with immuno-regulan?
Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan
I don't recall dosage as it was YEARS ago, but 1 mL sounds right. My cat had no adverse reactions that I know of, but she was very sick already at the time we started the treatments, so I may not have known.Her worst adverse reaction was fear from going to the vet. :(tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:1 ml, but Ginger got a high fever for about an hour afterwards from that dose. Patches did fine on it. You can do .5 ml instead. With a kitten, I would think the dose would need to be less. MichelleIn a message dated 2/23/2006 4:08:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle - what dosage did you use to treat a URI with IR? Particularly if you can do it subQ that is something I really need to try.
Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan
It helped Ginger get over a bad URI last spring, and Patches get over pneumonia a few years ago. Michelle In a message dated 2/15/2006 10:54:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anybody else have experience with immuno-regulan?
Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan
I started Smokey on immuno-regulan last Wednesday. He recieved shots for 4 days and then 2 shots per week. His problem was a recurring fever. So far he is fever free. He has been eating good and playing. He is also taking Baytril and Clavamox but I think the immuno-regulan has helped him with his fevers. I am keeping my fingers crossed. This has been the 1st week in over a month that we haven't had to make a trip to the vet or go in as an emergency. Cindy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It helped Ginger get over a bad URI last spring, and Patches get over pneumonia a few years ago. Michelle In a message dated 2/15/2006 10:54:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anybody else have experience with immuno-regulan? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan
I've been going to ask the same question - if anyone has experience with this. I have a little 14mo old feleuk+ baby, Daisy, who is not only a joy to me but to all my kids at school. I want to go the extra mile with her from the beginning - there would be so many more people than just me to be heartbroken at her death.I have just gotten immuno-regulan for monthly doses for a 10 yr old feleuk girl, Calico, who just came into our rescue group. She has been maintained on monthly shots for 7-8 years so we are going to keep it up. Daisy gets daily interferon but she still has trouble throwing URI's - and she is underweight. I just have the gut feeling that she isn't going to be a really long-term survivor. I have been thinking about adding the immunoregulan to what she gets. All my info says that it has to be IV. Found a protocol - don't remember exactly but you start off with daily shots andwork upto monthy. Is that what everyone uses? Does anyone have experience with any better rusults using both that and interferon? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:It helped Ginger get over a bad URI last spring, and Patches get over pneumonia a few years ago. MichelleIn a message dated 2/15/2006 10:54:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anybody else have experience with immuno-regulan?
Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan
Michelle - what dosage did you use to treat a URI with IR? Particularly if you can do it subQ that is something I really need to try.cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started Smokey on immuno-regulan last Wednesday. Herecieved shots for 4 days and then 2 shots per week. His problem was a recurring fever. So far he is feverfree. He has been eating good and playing. He isalso taking Baytril and Clavamox but I think theimmuno-regulan has helped him with his fevers. I amkeeping my fingers crossed. This has been the 1stweek in over a month that we haven't had to make atrip to the vet or go in as an emergency.Cindy--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It helped Ginger get over a bad URI last spring, and Patches get over pneumonia a few years ago. Michelle In a message dated 2/15/2006 10:54:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anybody else have experience with immuno-regulan?__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan
1 ml, but Ginger got a high fever for about an hour afterwards from that dose. Patches did fine on it. You can do .5 ml instead. With a kitten, I would think the dose would need to be less. Michelle In a message dated 2/23/2006 4:08:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle - what dosage did you use to treat a URI with IR? Particularly if you can do it subQ that is something I really need to try.
Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan
for how long?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:1 ml, but Ginger got a high fever for about an hour afterwards from that dose. Patches did fine on it. You can do .5 ml instead. With a kitten, I would think the dose would need to be less. MichelleIn a message dated 2/23/2006 4:08:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle - what dosage did you use to treat a URI with IR? Particularly if you can do it subQ that is something I really need to try.
Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan
I think I did two shots, 3 days apart, and then she got better and I stopped. The cat who is 10-- she has had FeLV her whole life and done ok? I have never heard of giving I-R as a preventative immune booster. It's an interesting idea. I get scared of doing things like that because of the kind of side effects Ginger had, but they were short-lived, and if it can stimulate their immune systems to stay strong, maybe we should all be doing it regularly... Michelle In a message dated 2/23/2006 4:22:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for how long?
Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan
Thanks - I am going to try that with a couple of my cats who've gotten bad URI's.The 10-yr old -- that is really weird. Calico and her littermate WildOneTrixie belonged to an elderly lady who got them as kittens - they'd been born around her house. Once she got them they never went out again. Calico tests positive and WildOne negative. They have lived together the whole 10 years - with the vet's blessing -- how awesome is that! Anyhow the elderly lady's son didn't remember exactly when they'd been tested but Calico has been on the IR for about 7-8 years. Calico seems so healthy that before ordering the IR we re-tested - and she is definitely positive. Our vet was kinda like "Well, I've never heard of doing that but might help, won't hurt" -- but he doesn't really have much faith that that is why she is still healthy - said she's just in the lucky % that doesn't get sick. Maybe that is true, but we just don't know for sure, and I don't want to stop her shots just in case. She gets .2mg once a month. Just on the off chance that it has helped her and might help my Daisy, I was considering giving it to Daisy in addition to the interferon but was hesitant about the IV part. But since it can be subQ, there is no reason not to try, I guess.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I think I did two shots, 3 days apart, and then she got better and I stopped.The cat who is 10-- she has had FeLV her whole life and done ok? I have never heard of giving I-R as a preventative immune booster. It's an interesting idea. I get scared of doing things like that because of the kind of side effects Ginger had, but they were short-lived, and if it can stimulate their immune systems to stay strong, maybe we should all be doing it regularly... MichelleIn a message dated 2/23/2006 4:22:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for how long?
Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan
Thanks, Tonya! We took in a cat from another town, the the vet had it on immunoregulan. We use interferon, but haven't used the immuno- regulan before. I'll have to read up on it. Gloria On Feb 16, 2006, at 6:16 PM, catatonya wrote: We used it with CC years ago. She got better, but we were also using interferon and on a lot of herbs and supplements from a holistic doctor as well. I can't say for sure what got her 'over the hump' from being at death's doorstep to doing better There were no side effects or anything like that. t Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody else have experience with immuno-regulan? On Feb 15, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Chris wrote: He gave her a series of shots. She had no side effects and I think the shots were once a week or once every other week--can't remember right now. As far as other things, well she's had a couple of UTI problems... Its tough finding a good vet. My first vet, who is the one who picked up on FELV status, readily admitted to me that he had almost no experience but was willing to work with a NYC med center. That would have been a little tough in terms of transport back and forth and I found a vet who was closer to me who does treat FELV+ cats. He never batted an eyelash about treating Tucson and at least had some experience. I do not have her or Big Boy (my other FELV) on Interferon but that was more of a judgment call on my part based on their personalities and overall situation. One of the ideas for finding more helpful vet is to try to contact local rescue groups, particularly anyone who takes FELV+. Also, when I was changing, I called a number of them to find somebody who was currently treating FELV cats... Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Smokey Did your vet give your Tucson the immuno-regulin in a shot or through an IV? Did she have to stay at the vet or get to go home? I might need to go to another vet because my conversation today the vet seemed like we had done all we could do for Smokey. The fever is the big thing with him. He keeps getting a fever every 3 or 4 days. I had talked to another vet when I first found out Smokey was + because one of the vets where I take my pets gave me the option of finding Smokey another home or euthanasia. The other vet I spoke to told me not to let them put me in a corner about having Smokey euthanized. He said they have a few patients that are +. I don't want to see Smokey suffer but I don't know if he is right now. Cindy --- Chris wrote: My Tucson has had two episodes of low white blood count. Vet gave her a series of immuno-regulin shots; brought it back up. Just a thought... Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:19 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Smokey The bloodwork showed he was anemic, red and white blood cell count low. The white blood cell count was at the border of low normal. He had been on Baytril for awhile and the vet said she would of thought it would not have been at that level after being on antibiotics. His platelets were low too. I just talked to the vet and he didn't seem very hopeful for Smokey. I will take him back to vet today to see if his temp. has spiked again. After the vet gets his temp. down he goes about 3 or 4 days and it spikes again. I know when I go down there if he has a fever the vet will recomend euthanasia. What should I do? Thank you, Cindy --- Barb Moermond wrote: Why does your vet say that there's an infection somewhere? Does the bloodwork indicate it? I know that there have been a few people on-list who have had FeLV+ kitties with unexplained/idiopathic fevers. How very frustrating for you and your family! Am sending strength and calm for all of you. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan
Anybody else have experience with immuno-regulan? On Feb 15, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Chris wrote: He gave her a series of shots. She had no side effects and I think the shots were once a week or once every other week--can't remember right now. As far as other things, well she's had a couple of UTI problems... Its tough finding a good vet. My first vet, who is the one who picked up on FELV status, readily admitted to me that he had almost no experience but was willing to work with a NYC med center. That would have been a little tough in terms of transport back and forth and I found a vet who was closer to me who does treat FELV+ cats. He never batted an eyelash about treating Tucson and at least had some experience. I do not have her or Big Boy (my other FELV) on Interferon but that was more of a judgment call on my part based on their personalities and overall situation. One of the ideas for finding more helpful vet is to try to contact local rescue groups, particularly anyone who takes FELV+. Also, when I was changing, I called a number of them to find somebody who was currently treating FELV cats... Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Smokey Did your vet give your Tucson the immuno-regulin in a shot or through an IV? Did she have to stay at the vet or get to go home? I might need to go to another vet because my conversation today the vet seemed like we had done all we could do for Smokey. The fever is the big thing with him. He keeps getting a fever every 3 or 4 days. I had talked to another vet when I first found out Smokey was + because one of the vets where I take my pets gave me the option of finding Smokey another home or euthanasia. The other vet I spoke to told me not to let them put me in a corner about having Smokey euthanized. He said they have a few patients that are +. I don't want to see Smokey suffer but I don't know if he is right now. Cindy --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Tucson has had two episodes of low white blood count. Vet gave her a series of immuno-regulin shots; brought it back up. Just a thought... Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:19 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Smokey The bloodwork showed he was anemic, red and white blood cell count low. The white blood cell count was at the border of low normal. He had been on Baytril for awhile and the vet said she would of thought it would not have been at that level after being on antibiotics. His platelets were low too. I just talked to the vet and he didn't seem very hopeful for Smokey. I will take him back to vet today to see if his temp. has spiked again. After the vet gets his temp. down he goes about 3 or 4 days and it spikes again. I know when I go down there if he has a fever the vet will recomend euthanasia. What should I do? Thank you, Cindy --- Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does your vet say that there's an infection somewhere? Does the bloodwork indicate it? I know that there have been a few people on-list who have had FeLV+ kitties with unexplained/idiopathic fevers. How very frustrating for you and your family! Am sending strength and calm for all of you. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2. Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan (Gloria Lane)
Hi I used it a couple of years ago on my fiv cat. She was anemic and found it helped alot. But she was so far gone by the time I used it she had the side effects of the ill feelings but within a few hours she was like a new cat for a day. There are different protocols. One is 3x a week then decrease to 2 x a week. The other was 2x a week for 2 months? I used the 2x. I wished I did I started with the 3x. Also wish I found Dr Cahill sooner cos he told me to cut the does cos it upset her stomach it made all sorts of noices for about a few hours and she lay there, I remmeber I said oh what did I do then she was fine. He said some cats you ahave to use 1/2 the dose then work up to it depending on the cat. Others had no problem. Carla
