Re: to Kelly L

[Kelly L]

At 07:24 PM 7/5/2007, you wrote:

Hi, Kelly, could you forward me the study done by italian group on 
Alferon again?  Someone needs it and I don't have a copy as I 
changed my email address.. thank you!


Sure Hideyo, but please give me your email address as I cannot send 
it to the group as a pdf file,,,I won't go through.

Kelly




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to Kelly L

[HIDEYO YAMAMOTO]

Hi, Kelly, could you forward me the study done by italian group on Alferon 
again?  Someone needs it and I don't have a copy as I changed my email 
address.. thank you!

Re: To Kelly L: Re: Best Friends

[Kelly L]

At 10:28 AM 11/27/2006, you wrote:


It might be to late to reserve a cottage I will email you some pics, 
there are many places in town also, We were lucky on our first 3 
visits to stay at the Rock House, but now they use it for storage, 
You will see it when you are there, it is between the visitors center 
and the cottages,
Every place there is beautiful. while we are there I work with the 
cats and hubby does the horses,
I s cried when Harriet died. and Oscar. I have so many pictures 
of them . Ihave never been there in Feb, we usually do fall so you 
will see so many things that i did not, Like SNOW, We had electric 
storms when I was there, One day I was in Bentons house during a bad 
storm and there was an exceptionally loud thunder,  Well it struck a 
tree right outside the clinic and took down a tree, It has been 3 
years since I have been there so I am really looking forward to 
April. You will have a wonderful time, Everyone there is super nice

Kelly



I think it's very cool that you go there to volunteer.
 Do you have any suggestions for where to stay while
visiting Best Friends?  I know there are a few
cottages on property, but I'd like to stay at the
best/most beautiful place if possible.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 09:35 AM 11/27/2006, you wrote:
>
>
> I totally agree, as I go there often and have been a
> member for 8
> years, Actually I am attending the weeks course on
> starting a shelter
> in April, but I see so many local groups really
> struggling, and they
> are my back yard, and they are desperate for help.
> We almost
> pruchased 2 acres in the Vermillion cliffs area, it
> is outside the
> city of Kanab about 2 miles east, Many employees
> live there,
> I have also volunteered at their adoptions in
> Burbank,It is a place
> to catch your breath.
>
> Kelly l
>
> >Best Friends does support local groups also with
> the
> >funds they receive.  Last year their total revenue
> was
> >a little over $30 million.  They spent almost $10
> >million on sanctuary maintenance, but $5 million on
> >programs and outreach and a little over $2.5
> million
> >on rescue.  They have partner groups in many cities
> >that they support, one of which came out to tnr (?)
> a
> >feral colony my elderly grandmother was feeding in
> >North Carolina after I called Best Friends for help
> a
> >few years ago.  I think Best Friends is a fabulous
> >organization, one worth donating to.
> >
> >:)
> >Wendy
> >
> >--- Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > At 08:08 PM 11/26/2006, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > No two rescues operate alike. I have been to
> Kanab
> > > many times to
> > > volunteer and they are wonderful, but even with
> them
> > > I disagree on
> > > several policies regarding adoptions, the thing
> I
> > > really appreciate
> > > about them is that they do not speak negatively
> > > about any rescue
> > > group, and that includes many kill shelters,
> > > We all agree on the basics, Spay and neuter, and
> TNR
> > > (although Peta
> > > is against TNR,,or at least they were)
> > > My criteria may be a bit different from yours,.
> > > there is a local
> > > rescue here that does not ask for an adoption
> fee
> > > which frightens me
> > > and she also does dogs and cats and recently
> lost a
> > > cat to a dog,
> > > Also very frightening, but she works her butt
> off
> > > finding homes for
> > > so very many in need ,
> > > We need to support each other and educate, If
> there
> > > is a dangerous
> > > overcrowding situation that should be addressed
> and
> > > perhaps helped,
> > > Animal people feel a great deal of passion so
> logic
> > > is frequently non
> > > existent,
> > > We need to support each other,,We need to
> support
> > > each other,,,Best
> > > Friends has more money than you can imagine, I
> give
> > > to local groups
> > > who really need it,
> > > Kelly
> > > www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >thank you for this.  this group i mentioned is
> the
> > > only rescue
> > > >operation i've been acquainted with - so from
> my
> > > view i did not know
> > > >if these were idiosyncrasies of this group or a
> > > common practice.  i
> > > >don't mean to run verbally run them down - i've
> > > just being going
> > > >through some disillusionment with their
> practices.
> > > i truly believe
> > > >their hearts are in the right place - i just
> think
> > > they need a good
> > > >common sense model of best practices.
> > > >
> > > >elizabeth
> > > >*Save the earth. It's the only planet with
> > > chocolate.*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-Original Message-
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > >Sent: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 9:08 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: OT Big problem, help
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 11/24/06, ETrent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >I know it isn't a perfect world...and I totally
> > > support the ideal of
> > > >rescuing kitties and making their lives
> better

Re: To Kelly L: Re: Best Friends

[Kelly L]

At 10:36 AM 11/27/2006, you wrote:



I think you can...used to be able to

I have never been but I know you can check out a dog to do a 
sleepover with if you stay at the cottages.  I don't know if you can 
do sleepovers at the hotels!


On 11/27/06, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think it's very cool that you go there to volunteer.
Do you have any suggestions for where to stay while
visiting Best Friends?  I know there are a few
cottages on property, but I'd like to stay at the
best/most beautiful place if possible.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelly L < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 09:35 AM 11/27/2006, you wrote:
>
>
> I totally agree, as I go there often and have been a
> member for 8
> years, Actually I am attending the weeks course on
> starting a shelter
> in April, but I see so many local groups really
> struggling, and they
> are my back yard, and they are desperate for help.
> We almost
> pruchased 2 acres in the Vermillion cliffs area, it
> is outside the
> city of Kanab about 2 miles east, Many employees
> live there,
> I have also volunteered at their adoptions in
> Burbank,It is a place
> to catch your breath.
>
> Kelly l
>
> >Best Friends does support local groups also with
> the
> >funds they receive.  Last year their total revenue
> was
> >a little over $30 million.  They spent almost $10
> >million on sanctuary maintenance, but $5 million on
> >programs and outreach and a little over $2.5
> million
> >on rescue.  They have partner groups in many cities
> >that they support, one of which came out to tnr (?)
> a
> >feral colony my elderly grandmother was feeding in
> >North Carolina after I called Best Friends for help
> a
> >few years ago.  I think Best Friends is a fabulous
> >organization, one worth donating to.
> >
> >:)
> >Wendy
> >
> >--- Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > At 08:08 PM 11/26/2006, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > No two rescues operate alike. I have been to
> Kanab
> > > many times to
> > > volunteer and they are wonderful, but even with
> them
> > > I disagree on
> > > several policies regarding adoptions, the thing
> I
> > > really appreciate
> > > about them is that they do not speak negatively
> > > about any rescue
> > > group, and that includes many kill shelters,
> > > We all agree on the basics, Spay and neuter, and
> TNR
> > > (although Peta
> > > is against TNR,,or at least they were)
> > > My criteria may be a bit different from yours,.
> > > there is a local
> > > rescue here that does not ask for an adoption
> fee
> > > which frightens me
> > > and she also does dogs and cats and recently
> lost a
> > > cat to a dog,
> > > Also very frightening, but she works her butt
> off
> > > finding homes for
> > > so very many in need ,
> > > We need to support each other and educate, If
> there
> > > is a dangerous
> > > overcrowding situation that should be addressed
> and
> > > perhaps helped,
> > > Animal people feel a great deal of passion so
> logic
> > > is frequently non
> > > existent,
> > > We need to support each other,,We need to
> support
> > > each other,,,Best
> > > Friends has more money than you can imagine, I
> give
> > > to local groups
> > > who really need it,
> > > Kelly
> > > www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >thank you for this.  this group i mentioned is
> the
> > > only rescue
> > > >operation i've been acquainted with - so from
> my
> > > view i did not know
> > > >if these were idiosyncrasies of this group or a
> > > common practice.  i
> > > >don't mean to run verbally run them down - i've
> > > just being going
> > > >through some disillusionment with their
> practices.
> > > i truly believe
> > > >their hearts are in the right place - i just
> think
> > > they need a good
> > > >common sense model of best practices.
> > > >
> > > >elizabeth
> > > >*Save the earth. It's the only planet with
> > > chocolate.*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-Original Message-
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > >Sent: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 9:08 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: OT Big problem, help
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 11/24/06, ETrent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >I know it isn't a perfect world...and I totally
> > > support the ideal of
> > > >rescuing kitties and making their lives
> better...I
> > > just wish that
> > > >there was some kind of guideline that ensured
> the
> > > welfare of the
> > > >rescued kitties.  My whole experience has left
> me
> > > very resentful of
> > > >cat rescues...and I am hoping to get some
> feedback
> > > from those of you
> > > >who are involved in this sort of thing.  I
> realize
> > > that I am myopic
> > > >and perhaps you can help me see more clearly.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >This certainly sounds bad.  There is a rescue

Re: To Kelly L: Re: Best Friends

[Kelley Saveika]

I have never been but I know you can check out a dog to do a sleepover with
if you stay at the cottages.  I don't know if you can do sleepovers at the
hotels!

On 11/27/06, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I think it's very cool that you go there to volunteer.
Do you have any suggestions for where to stay while
visiting Best Friends?  I know there are a few
cottages on property, but I'd like to stay at the
best/most beautiful place if possible.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 09:35 AM 11/27/2006, you wrote:
>
>
> I totally agree, as I go there often and have been a
> member for 8
> years, Actually I am attending the weeks course on
> starting a shelter
> in April, but I see so many local groups really
> struggling, and they
> are my back yard, and they are desperate for help.
> We almost
> pruchased 2 acres in the Vermillion cliffs area, it
> is outside the
> city of Kanab about 2 miles east, Many employees
> live there,
> I have also volunteered at their adoptions in
> Burbank,It is a place
> to catch your breath.
>
> Kelly l
>
> >Best Friends does support local groups also with
> the
> >funds they receive.  Last year their total revenue
> was
> >a little over $30 million.  They spent almost $10
> >million on sanctuary maintenance, but $5 million on
> >programs and outreach and a little over $2.5
> million
> >on rescue.  They have partner groups in many cities
> >that they support, one of which came out to tnr (?)
> a
> >feral colony my elderly grandmother was feeding in
> >North Carolina after I called Best Friends for help
> a
> >few years ago.  I think Best Friends is a fabulous
> >organization, one worth donating to.
> >
> >:)
> >Wendy
> >
> >--- Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > At 08:08 PM 11/26/2006, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > No two rescues operate alike. I have been to
> Kanab
> > > many times to
> > > volunteer and they are wonderful, but even with
> them
> > > I disagree on
> > > several policies regarding adoptions, the thing
> I
> > > really appreciate
> > > about them is that they do not speak negatively
> > > about any rescue
> > > group, and that includes many kill shelters,
> > > We all agree on the basics, Spay and neuter, and
> TNR
> > > (although Peta
> > > is against TNR,,or at least they were)
> > > My criteria may be a bit different from yours,.
> > > there is a local
> > > rescue here that does not ask for an adoption
> fee
> > > which frightens me
> > > and she also does dogs and cats and recently
> lost a
> > > cat to a dog,
> > > Also very frightening, but she works her butt
> off
> > > finding homes for
> > > so very many in need ,
> > > We need to support each other and educate, If
> there
> > > is a dangerous
> > > overcrowding situation that should be addressed
> and
> > > perhaps helped,
> > > Animal people feel a great deal of passion so
> logic
> > > is frequently non
> > > existent,
> > > We need to support each other,,We need to
> support
> > > each other,,,Best
> > > Friends has more money than you can imagine, I
> give
> > > to local groups
> > > who really need it,
> > > Kelly
> > > www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >thank you for this.  this group i mentioned is
> the
> > > only rescue
> > > >operation i've been acquainted with - so from
> my
> > > view i did not know
> > > >if these were idiosyncrasies of this group or a
> > > common practice.  i
> > > >don't mean to run verbally run them down - i've
> > > just being going
> > > >through some disillusionment with their
> practices.
> > > i truly believe
> > > >their hearts are in the right place - i just
> think
> > > they need a good
> > > >common sense model of best practices.
> > > >
> > > >elizabeth
> > > >*Save the earth. It's the only planet with
> > > chocolate.*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-Original Message-
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > >Sent: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 9:08 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: OT Big problem, help
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 11/24/06, ETrent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >I know it isn't a perfect world...and I totally
> > > support the ideal of
> > > >rescuing kitties and making their lives
> better...I
> > > just wish that
> > > >there was some kind of guideline that ensured
> the
> > > welfare of the
> > > >rescued kitties.  My whole experience has left
> me
> > > very resentful of
> > > >cat rescues...and I am hoping to get some
> feedback
> > > from those of you
> > > >who are involved in this sort of thing.  I
> realize
> > > that I am myopic
> > > >and perhaps you can help me see more clearly.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >This certainly sounds bad.  There is a rescue
> > > around here that I
> > > >think of as...well, questionable.  They take
> dogs
> > > out of the pound
> > > >every day and take them around and display them
> in
> > > front of local
> > > >PetSmarts (which in and of itself is a pretty
> good
> > > idea, I
> > > >think).  Th

Re: To Kelly L: Re: Best Friends

[wendy]

I think it's very cool that you go there to volunteer.
 Do you have any suggestions for where to stay while
visiting Best Friends?  I know there are a few
cottages on property, but I'd like to stay at the
best/most beautiful place if possible.  

:)
Wendy

--- Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 09:35 AM 11/27/2006, you wrote:
> 
> 
> I totally agree, as I go there often and have been a
> member for 8 
> years, Actually I am attending the weeks course on
> starting a shelter 
> in April, but I see so many local groups really
> struggling, and they 
> are my back yard, and they are desperate for help.
> We almost 
> pruchased 2 acres in the Vermillion cliffs area, it
> is outside the 
> city of Kanab about 2 miles east, Many employees
> live there,
> I have also volunteered at their adoptions in
> Burbank,It is a place 
> to catch your breath.
> 
> Kelly l
> 
> >Best Friends does support local groups also with
> the
> >funds they receive.  Last year their total revenue
> was
> >a little over $30 million.  They spent almost $10
> >million on sanctuary maintenance, but $5 million on
> >programs and outreach and a little over $2.5
> million
> >on rescue.  They have partner groups in many cities
> >that they support, one of which came out to tnr (?)
> a
> >feral colony my elderly grandmother was feeding in
> >North Carolina after I called Best Friends for help
> a
> >few years ago.  I think Best Friends is a fabulous
> >organization, one worth donating to.
> >
> >:)
> >Wendy
> >
> >--- Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > At 08:08 PM 11/26/2006, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > No two rescues operate alike. I have been to
> Kanab
> > > many times to
> > > volunteer and they are wonderful, but even with
> them
> > > I disagree on
> > > several policies regarding adoptions, the thing
> I
> > > really appreciate
> > > about them is that they do not speak negatively
> > > about any rescue
> > > group, and that includes many kill shelters,
> > > We all agree on the basics, Spay and neuter, and
> TNR
> > > (although Peta
> > > is against TNR,,or at least they were)
> > > My criteria may be a bit different from yours,.
> > > there is a local
> > > rescue here that does not ask for an adoption
> fee
> > > which frightens me
> > > and she also does dogs and cats and recently
> lost a
> > > cat to a dog,
> > > Also very frightening, but she works her butt
> off
> > > finding homes for
> > > so very many in need ,
> > > We need to support each other and educate, If
> there
> > > is a dangerous
> > > overcrowding situation that should be addressed
> and
> > > perhaps helped,
> > > Animal people feel a great deal of passion so
> logic
> > > is frequently non
> > > existent,
> > > We need to support each other,,We need to
> support
> > > each other,,,Best
> > > Friends has more money than you can imagine, I
> give
> > > to local groups
> > > who really need it,
> > > Kelly
> > > www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >thank you for this.  this group i mentioned is
> the
> > > only rescue
> > > >operation i've been acquainted with - so from
> my
> > > view i did not know
> > > >if these were idiosyncrasies of this group or a
> > > common practice.  i
> > > >don't mean to run verbally run them down - i've
> > > just being going
> > > >through some disillusionment with their
> practices.
> > > i truly believe
> > > >their hearts are in the right place - i just
> think
> > > they need a good
> > > >common sense model of best practices.
> > > >
> > > >elizabeth
> > > >*Save the earth. It's the only planet with
> > > chocolate.*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-Original Message-
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > >Sent: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 9:08 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: OT Big problem, help
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 11/24/06, ETrent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >I know it isn't a perfect world...and I totally
> > > support the ideal of
> > > >rescuing kitties and making their lives
> better...I
> > > just wish that
> > > >there was some kind of guideline that ensured
> the
> > > welfare of the
> > > >rescued kitties.  My whole experience has left
> me
> > > very resentful of
> > > >cat rescues...and I am hoping to get some
> feedback
> > > from those of you
> > > >who are involved in this sort of thing.  I
> realize
> > > that I am myopic
> > > >and perhaps you can help me see more clearly.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >This certainly sounds bad.  There is a rescue
> > > around here that I
> > > >think of as...well, questionable.  They take
> dogs
> > > out of the pound
> > > >every day and take them around and display them
> in
> > > front of local
> > > >PetSmarts (which in and of itself is a pretty
> good
> > > idea, I
> > > >think).  The ones who aren't adopted go back to
> the
> > > pound at
> > > >night:(.  Unfortunately several of these dogs
> have
> > > been adopted out
> > > >and come down with distemper and parvo.  This
> 

Re: To Kelly L: Re: OT Big problem, help

[Kelly L]

At 09:35 AM 11/27/2006, you wrote:


I totally agree, as I go there often and have been a member for 8 
years, Actually I am attending the weeks course on starting a shelter 
in April, but I see so many local groups really struggling, and they 
are my back yard, and they are desperate for help. We almost 
pruchased 2 acres in the Vermillion cliffs area, it is outside the 
city of Kanab about 2 miles east, Many employees live there,
I have also volunteered at their adoptions in Burbank,It is a place 
to catch your breath.


Kelly l


Best Friends does support local groups also with the
funds they receive.  Last year their total revenue was
a little over $30 million.  They spent almost $10
million on sanctuary maintenance, but $5 million on
programs and outreach and a little over $2.5 million
on rescue.  They have partner groups in many cities
that they support, one of which came out to tnr (?) a
feral colony my elderly grandmother was feeding in
North Carolina after I called Best Friends for help a
few years ago.  I think Best Friends is a fabulous
organization, one worth donating to.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 08:08 PM 11/26/2006, you wrote:
>
>
> No two rescues operate alike. I have been to Kanab
> many times to
> volunteer and they are wonderful, but even with them
> I disagree on
> several policies regarding adoptions, the thing I
> really appreciate
> about them is that they do not speak negatively
> about any rescue
> group, and that includes many kill shelters,
> We all agree on the basics, Spay and neuter, and TNR
> (although Peta
> is against TNR,,or at least they were)
> My criteria may be a bit different from yours,.
> there is a local
> rescue here that does not ask for an adoption fee
> which frightens me
> and she also does dogs and cats and recently lost a
> cat to a dog,
> Also very frightening, but she works her butt off
> finding homes for
> so very many in need ,
> We need to support each other and educate, If there
> is a dangerous
> overcrowding situation that should be addressed and
> perhaps helped,
> Animal people feel a great deal of passion so logic
> is frequently non
> existent,
> We need to support each other,,We need to support
> each other,,,Best
> Friends has more money than you can imagine, I give
> to local groups
> who really need it,
> Kelly
> www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com
>
>
>
>
> >thank you for this.  this group i mentioned is the
> only rescue
> >operation i've been acquainted with - so from my
> view i did not know
> >if these were idiosyncrasies of this group or a
> common practice.  i
> >don't mean to run verbally run them down - i've
> just being going
> >through some disillusionment with their practices.
> i truly believe
> >their hearts are in the right place - i just think
> they need a good
> >common sense model of best practices.
> >
> >elizabeth
> >*Save the earth. It's the only planet with
> chocolate.*
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Sent: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 9:08 AM
> >Subject: Re: OT Big problem, help
> >
> >
> >
> >On 11/24/06, ETrent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I know it isn't a perfect world...and I totally
> support the ideal of
> >rescuing kitties and making their lives better...I
> just wish that
> >there was some kind of guideline that ensured the
> welfare of the
> >rescued kitties.  My whole experience has left me
> very resentful of
> >cat rescues...and I am hoping to get some feedback
> from those of you
> >who are involved in this sort of thing.  I realize
> that I am myopic
> >and perhaps you can help me see more clearly.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >This certainly sounds bad.  There is a rescue
> around here that I
> >think of as...well, questionable.  They take dogs
> out of the pound
> >every day and take them around and display them in
> front of local
> >PetSmarts (which in and of itself is a pretty good
> idea, I
> >think).  The ones who aren't adopted go back to the
> pound at
> >night:(.  Unfortunately several of these dogs have
> been adopted out
> >and come down with distemper and parvo.  This made
> the local news
> >and the owner of this group stated that people were
> taking a risk if
> >they adopted and they should be aware of that.  I
> wasn't thrilled
> >with that statement either.
> >
> >BUT this group has done a lot of good, even if I am
> not thrilled
> >with their methods.  Lots of dogs have found
> forever homes that
> >would otherwise have been killed.  Same with the
> group I am now
> >having problems with.  They've rehomed 5,000 cats.
> >
> >I'm just trying to make it my policy to not
> verbally run down other
> >rescue groups or expend my efforts trying to get
> them shut
> >down.  I'm in this to help cats, not get involved
> in politics.  I
> >have to remind myself of that just about daily.  My
> model is Best
> >Friends in Kaneb, Utah, and they didn't get to
> where they are today
> >by spending all their time trash tal

To Kelly L: Re: OT Big problem, help

[wendy]

Best Friends does support local groups also with the
funds they receive.  Last year their total revenue was
a little over $30 million.  They spent almost $10
million on sanctuary maintenance, but $5 million on
programs and outreach and a little over $2.5 million
on rescue.  They have partner groups in many cities
that they support, one of which came out to tnr (?) a
feral colony my elderly grandmother was feeding in
North Carolina after I called Best Friends for help a
few years ago.  I think Best Friends is a fabulous
organization, one worth donating to. 

:)
Wendy

--- Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 08:08 PM 11/26/2006, you wrote:
> 
> 
> No two rescues operate alike. I have been to Kanab
> many times to 
> volunteer and they are wonderful, but even with them
> I disagree on 
> several policies regarding adoptions, the thing I
> really appreciate 
> about them is that they do not speak negatively
> about any rescue 
> group, and that includes many kill shelters,
> We all agree on the basics, Spay and neuter, and TNR
> (although Peta 
> is against TNR,,or at least they were)
> My criteria may be a bit different from yours,.
> there is a local 
> rescue here that does not ask for an adoption fee
> which frightens me 
> and she also does dogs and cats and recently lost a
> cat to a dog, 
> Also very frightening, but she works her butt off
> finding homes for 
> so very many in need ,
> We need to support each other and educate, If there
> is a dangerous 
> overcrowding situation that should be addressed and
> perhaps helped, 
> Animal people feel a great deal of passion so logic
> is frequently non 
> existent,
> We need to support each other,,We need to support
> each other,,,Best 
> Friends has more money than you can imagine, I give
> to local groups 
> who really need it,
> Kelly
> www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >thank you for this.  this group i mentioned is the
> only rescue 
> >operation i've been acquainted with - so from my
> view i did not know 
> >if these were idiosyncrasies of this group or a
> common practice.  i 
> >don't mean to run verbally run them down - i've
> just being going 
> >through some disillusionment with their practices. 
> i truly believe 
> >their hearts are in the right place - i just think
> they need a good 
> >common sense model of best practices.
> >
> >elizabeth
> >*Save the earth. It's the only planet with
> chocolate.*
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Sent: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 9:08 AM
> >Subject: Re: OT Big problem, help
> >
> >
> >
> >On 11/24/06, ETrent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I know it isn't a perfect world...and I totally
> support the ideal of 
> >rescuing kitties and making their lives better...I
> just wish that 
> >there was some kind of guideline that ensured the
> welfare of the 
> >rescued kitties.  My whole experience has left me
> very resentful of 
> >cat rescues...and I am hoping to get some feedback
> from those of you 
> >who are involved in this sort of thing.  I realize
> that I am myopic 
> >and perhaps you can help me see more clearly.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >This certainly sounds bad.  There is a rescue
> around here that I 
> >think of as...well, questionable.  They take dogs
> out of the pound 
> >every day and take them around and display them in
> front of local 
> >PetSmarts (which in and of itself is a pretty good
> idea, I 
> >think).  The ones who aren't adopted go back to the
> pound at 
> >night:(.  Unfortunately several of these dogs have
> been adopted out 
> >and come down with distemper and parvo.  This made
> the local news 
> >and the owner of this group stated that people were
> taking a risk if 
> >they adopted and they should be aware of that.  I
> wasn't thrilled 
> >with that statement either.
> >
> >BUT this group has done a lot of good, even if I am
> not thrilled 
> >with their methods.  Lots of dogs have found
> forever homes that 
> >would otherwise have been killed.  Same with the
> group I am now 
> >having problems with.  They've rehomed 5,000 cats.
> >
> >I'm just trying to make it my policy to not
> verbally run down other 
> >rescue groups or expend my efforts trying to get
> them shut 
> >down.  I'm in this to help cats, not get involved
> in politics.  I 
> >have to remind myself of that just about daily.  My
> model is Best 
> >Friends in Kaneb, Utah, and they didn't get to
> where they are today 
> >by spending all their time trash talking other
> rescues (not that I 
> >am suggesting you are trash talking, this is just
> something I see on 
> >a daily basis from people involved in rescue -
> they'll tell people 
> >"Oh, don't adopt a cat from x rescue..they are a
> "bad rescue").
> >
> >Anyway, if you do not support this group's
> practices, don't give 
> >them any money.   Don't let them guilt you into
> giving them money 
> >either.  If you want to keep your money local, I
> would find another 
> >rescue group.