RE: RE: average lifespan

2005-06-02 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








I am so happy to hear that they are both
doing good! We just have to take one day at a time  right? Thats
what I do with my ginger, and all of my other cats for that matter 
every day, I come home and see them, all my troubles seem to be so minimal
compared to their well-being..











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Subject: RE: RE: average lifespan





Well, Tucson hovers between 16-17 lbs and I
recently had to put her on a diet as her weight affected her
breathing When she slows down on eating or is in a grumpy mood, I
know something is upthats how I found out she was FELV+. Ive
had her since she was a kitten, (had fallen into a wall in my parents
apt)  shes never been exposed to FELV as she was indoors only so
vets I saw were sure shes had it since birth. Only problems
Ive had were two episodes of very low white blood count which vet
treated with immuno-regulin. Big Boy is a stray I fed for a couple of
years before bringing him inI saw him every day all that time  he
was never sick. I was floored when he tested pos. Its hard to tell
how old he is but vet says somewhere between 4-6. He has been
asymptomatic but vet trips are a real ordeal for him so outside of regular
blood tests, I try not to take him in too often. My other 3 (1 older, 2
younger than Tucson),
were around her and not vaccinated for FELVThey now get tested/vaccinated
once a year (were due this month). Anyway, so far so good, (knock
on wood)though I know that things can change in a heartbeat





Chris

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How are they both doing? Are
they asymptomatic?















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Ive got a 6 + year
old who tested pos last year though vet thinks she had it all along and a 4+
that I took in as a stray last year who also turned out to be pos.






Chris

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12:34 PM
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Subject: RE: average lifespan





Yes,
this is very depressing. Tom was about a year and a half the vet said and I
guess now he is 2 years old. I know now from what the group said what to
expect of his life span. Maybe another year or two.





Is
Salome just a carrier or is it in the bone marrow? To be 9 years old,
shemust be a carrier??





Barbara
Baass

Hideyo Yamamoto
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This is
just so depressing to think about, isnt it?

I look
at Ginger, who is just a year old and every day, I fear of the day  but
fortunately she is doing very good and try not to think about it too much,
instead, I try to concentrate on loving her more - I am going to continue
to fight with Ginger no matter what..



















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Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:04
PM
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Subject: Re: average lifespan







Doesn't seem to be a long life span. Looks like maybe 3 to 5 or
6 years. I believe that Tom was born with this because it is in the bone marrow.
He probably got it from his mother. It is a shame that we have to go through
pain and suffering before we die. At least most of the time we do.





Barbra Baass

Terri Brown
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Samantha was 3 (1999)





Arielle was 4-1/2 (2001)





Gareth was 6-1/2 (2003)





Alec was 5-1/2 (2003)











Salome' is still with me. She's 9.











RuthieGirl was 6 months (1996 -- not a FeLV related
death; she was Salome's littermate).





Siggie, Sammi, and Guinevere are FeLV negative.











=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire,
Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and
Alec =^..^=











Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/
My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/
My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350







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From: Gloria
B. Lane 





To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 





Sent: Monday, May
30, 2005 11:44 PM





Subject: Re: average
lifespan









Yo Jenn -

My darling Calawalla Banana Boo-boo was 3 years old. (2004)

My sweet Mittens was maybe 2.5 yrs. (2003)

My baby Mr. Black kitty was FIV and FELV+ - vet said he was 18. I 
don't believe it. Think he was a bit younger than that - 10 yrs 
maybe? (2002)

Gloria


Well, my Moogie, who was born with FELV, lived 18 months, but it 
varies widely, and also, I did

RE: RE: average lifespan

2005-06-01 Thread Chris








Well, Tucson hovers between 16-17 lbs
and I recently had to put her on a diet as her weight affected her breathing
When she slows down on eating or is in a grumpy mood, I know something is upthats
how I found out she was FELV+. Ive had her since she was a kitten,
(had fallen into a wall in my parents apt)  shes never been
exposed to FELV as she was indoors only so vets I saw were sure shes had
it since birth. Only problems Ive had were two episodes of very
low white blood count which vet treated with immuno-regulin. Big Boy is a
stray I fed for a couple of years before bringing him inI saw him every
day all that time  he was never sick. I was floored when he tested
pos. Its hard to tell how old he is but vet says somewhere between
4-6. He has been asymptomatic but vet trips are a real ordeal for him so
outside of regular blood tests, I try not to take him in too often. My
other 3 (1 older, 2 younger than Tucson), were around her and not vaccinated for FELVThey now get
tested/vaccinated once a year (were due this month). Anyway, so
far so good, (knock on wood)though I know that things can change in a
heartbeat





Chris

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average lifespan



How are they both doing?
Are they asymptomatic?











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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005
11:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: average lifespan





Ive got a 6 + year
old who tested pos last year though vet thinks she had it all along and a 4+
that I took in as a stray last year who also turned out to be pos.






Chris

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From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barbara Baass
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005
12:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: average lifespan





Yes,
this is very depressing. Tom was about a year and a half the vet said and I
guess now he is 2 years old. I know now from what the group said what to
expect of his life span. Maybe another year or two.





Is
Salome just a carrier or is it in the bone marrow? To be 9 years old,
shemust be a carrier??





Barbara
Baass

Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





This is
just so depressing to think about, isnt it?

I look
at Ginger, who is just a year old and every day, I fear of the day  but
fortunately she is doing very good and try not to think about it too much,
instead, I try to concentrate on loving her more - I am going to continue
to fight with Ginger no matter what..















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barbara Baass
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:04
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: average lifespan







Doesn't seem to be a long life span. Looks like maybe 3 to 5 or
6 years. I believe that Tom was born with this because it is in the bone
marrow. He probably got it from his mother. It is a shame that we have to go
through pain and suffering before we die. At least most of the time we do.





Barbra Baass

Terri Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









Samantha was 3 (1999)





Arielle was 4-1/2 (2001)





Gareth was 6-1/2 (2003)





Alec was 5-1/2 (2003)











Salome' is still with me. She's 9.











RuthieGirl was 6 months (1996 -- not a FeLV related death;
she was Salome's littermate).





Siggie, Sammi, and Guinevere are FeLV negative.











=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire,
Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and
Alec =^..^=











Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/
My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/
My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350







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From: Gloria
B. Lane 





To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 





Sent: Monday, May
30, 2005 11:44 PM





Subject: Re: average
lifespan









Yo Jenn
-

My darling Calawalla Banana Boo-boo was 3 years old. (2004)

My sweet Mittens was maybe 2.5 yrs. (2003)

My baby Mr. Black kitty was FIV and FELV+ - vet said he was 18. I 
don't believe it. Think he was a bit younger than that - 10 yrs 
maybe? (2002)

Gloria


Well, my Moogie, who was born with FELV, lived 18 months, but it 
varies widely, and also, I did not take drastic measures to prolong 
her life. Had I done everything to the extreme, she may have lived 
to be 2 years old. I'm not really sure what the average life
span 
of FELV+ cats is, but one study has been done on the lifespan 
expectations for cats infected with feline leukemia virus that 
tested persistently viremic (continuously tested positive). In the 
study, reported by Dr. Susan Cotter in the November 1991 issue of 
the Journal of the AVMA, most cats died within 

RE: Re: average lifespan

2005-06-01 Thread Chris









I absolutely agree---Many cats are tested
as kittens and never tested againeven if indoor-outdoor. This is
not a new disease but has been around forever. So I think its really hard
to do any statistical research as unless a cat becomes ill, they are not seen.





Chris

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average lifespan



A
couple things to think about.Many many cats are POS but never tested and
many of these will never be tested because they don't get sick...and these cats
don't get put into the data base that we use to figure life expectance...So in
reality the life span average may be longer than we think

Also there are advances being made every day that may be a cure...Like feline
interferon...There is always the hope that such will be available in time for a
cat that is still well today...Plus we know things today..like good food and
low stress that we know will help to keep him healthy...

Tad
PS...I have an old girl..vet thinks she is over 12 years old but she has been
with me for almost 2 years and she is doing well...I did just loose my old
Sammy that I have had for a year and a half...I thought the 2 old timers were
past the age where it would get them but Sammy developed a huge tumor in his
mouth in just a few hours and I had to let him go to escape the pain that it
was causing him.



Chris wrote:



Ive got a 6 + year
old who tested pos last year though vet thinks she had it all along and a 4+
that I took in as a stray last year who also turned out to be pos.






Chris

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Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Barbara Baass
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005
12:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: average lifespan





Yes, this is
very depressing. Tom was about a year and a half the vet said and I guess now
he is 2 years old. I know now from what the group said what to expect of
his life span. Maybe another year or two.





Is Salome just
a carrier or is it in the bone marrow? To be 9 years old, shemust be a
carrier??





Barbara Baass

Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:





This is just so
depressing to think about, isnt it?

I look at Ginger, who is
just a year old and every day, I fear of the day  but fortunately she is
doing very good and try not to think about it too much, instead, I try to
concentrate on loving her more - I am going to continue to fight with
Ginger no matter what..















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Barbara Baass
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:04
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: average lifespan







Doesn't seem to be a long life span. Looks like maybe 3 to 5 or
6 years. I believe that Tom was born with this because it is in the bone
marrow. He probably got it from his mother. It is a shame that we have to go
through pain and suffering before we die. At least most of the time we do.





Barbra Baass

Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:









Samantha was 3 (1999)





Arielle was 4-1/2 (2001)





Gareth was 6-1/2 (2003)





Alec was 5-1/2 (2003)











Salome' is still with
me. She's 9.











RuthieGirl was 6 months
(1996 -- not a FeLV related death; she was Salome's littermate).





Siggie, Sammi, and
Guinevere are FeLV negative.











=^..^= Terri, Salome',
Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl,
Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=











Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/
My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/
My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350







- Original
Message - 





From: Gloria
B. Lane 





To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 





Sent: Monday, May
30, 2005 11:44 PM





Subject: Re: average
lifespan









Yo Jenn -

My darling Calawalla Banana Boo-boo was 3 years old. (2004)

My sweet Mittens was maybe 2.5 yrs. (2003)

My baby Mr. Black kitty was FIV and FELV+ - vet said he was 18. I 
don't believe it. Think he was a bit younger than that - 10 yrs 
maybe? (2002)

Gloria


Well, my Moogie, who was born with FELV, lived 18 months, but it 
varies widely, and also, I did not take drastic measures to prolong 
her life. Had I done everything to the extreme, she may have lived 
to be 2 years old. I'm not really sure what the average life
span 
of FELV+ cats is, but one study has been done on the lifespan 
expectations for cats infected with feline leukemia virus that 
tested persistently viremic (continuously tested positive). In the 
study, reported by Dr. Susan Cotter in the November 1991 issue of 
the Journal of the AVMA, most cats died within two years but about 
20% of the cats lived three or more years. Of course, if