Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-23 Thread Kelley S
Hi Lance, I've been doing some reading on stomatitis since Merls has been diagnosed with it. There's a product called Plaque Off that is supposed to help with dental issues. It's composed entirely of seaweed so it won't do any harm in any case. Best wishes for both the kitties. Please keep us

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-23 Thread Marsha
Vets around here tend to avoid Metacam and favor Buprenex. I worry about the kidneys with Metacam. Hopefully they went with a minimal dose for Sidney. A dose of longer acting Buprenex seems to be recently popular in my area, for post-dental pain relief. Then the owners don't have to give

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-23 Thread Lance
Sidney may have had some brushes with another cat, but those have been fleeting. As far as I know, he hasn’t been bitten or scratched. Thanks for mentioning Plaque Off. I need to look into that. On Feb 23, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Kelley S moonv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lance, I've been doing

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-23 Thread Kelley S
Lance, I was referring to Callie...I'm assuming they have been vaccinated? I've only seen calicivirus in a shelter pull and that was a kittenit just seems odd they would be exposed to it. I wonder if it can lie dormant and surface later? In the one case of Calici I did run across the

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-23 Thread Lance
I would prefer buprenex (the compounded liquid version if possible) or tramadol. We may have some tramadol here. I don’t think we’re going to give Sidney anything tonight, but I’ve put the metacam somewhere that will require deliberate consideration rather than “Oh, there’s that thing we give

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-23 Thread Lance
I see. I mentioned Sidney because he’s the only one who might have met another cat. Callie is strictly indoors, and the only cat she meets is Sidney. I’m not sure about vaccinations. If that’s a core vaccine, then she probably had it when she was a kitten. Neither cat has had a recent

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-23 Thread Lance
The cats went in this morning. Sidney’s drooling and inappetence were almost certainly related to dental issues. His teeth were cleaned, and some teeth were pulled. Since he was under, they gave him nutrients. I’m a little concerned that they sent Metacam for Sidney. I would prefer my parents

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-23 Thread Kelley S
Lance, The c in the FVRCP vaccine is calicivirus. It covers calici, Rhinotracheitis, and Panleukopenia. Current recommendations are for the initial series as a kitten, then a booster not more often than every 3 years. I'm just trying to figure out how on earth she could possibly have been

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-23 Thread Marsha
I found out last year that the vaccine doesn't cover all possible strains of calicivirus. One area vet told of a severe case of it he'd seen in a cat that had been vaccinated. I too, wonder if upper respiratory viruses can lie dormant. I will never know for sure what Harley had in December,

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-23 Thread Marsha
Sounds like a good plan. On 2/23/2015 4:57 PM, Lance wrote: I would prefer buprenex (the compounded liquid version if possible) or tramadol. We may have some tramadol here. I don’t think we’re going to give Sidney anything tonight, but I’ve put the metacam somewhere that will require

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-23 Thread Kelley S
Marsha, I don't think ANY vaccine can possibly hope to cover all the various strains of anything. I just find it so odd that a mature cat would all of a sudden come down with calici, as their immune systems, absent FELV, are quite well developed after a year of age. I'm not a vet and am not

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-23 Thread Margo
, Margo -Original Message- From: Kelley S <moonv...@gmail.com>Sent: Feb 23, 2015 6:10 PM To: felvtalk <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats Lance,The "c" in the FVRCP vaccine is calicivirus. It covers calici,Rhinotracheitis,and

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-22 Thread Margo
, I'd drop the dry food completely, if there's a problem with food, that's most likely where it is. Please keep us posted :( Margo -Original Message- From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm Sent: Feb 21, 2015 11:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats I’ve

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-22 Thread Kelley S
Honestly at this point I'm thinking infection and get them to the vet asap Monday. On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 1:18 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: DOES THEIR BOX OR BOXES GET CLEANED EVERY DAY? I HAVE 4 CATS AT PRESENT AND 6 BOXES (LEFT OVER FROM 8 CATS) AND THEY ALL GET CLEANED MORNING AND

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-22 Thread dlgegg
DOES THEIR BOX OR BOXES GET CLEANED EVERY DAY? I HAVE 4 CATS AT PRESENT AND 6 BOXES (LEFT OVER FROM 8 CATS) AND THEY ALL GET CLEANED MORNING AND EVENING TO PREVENT AN INFECTION FROM TRANSFERRING FROM ONE CAT TO ANOTHER. I USE BLUE BUFFALO MULTI CAT AND WORLD'S GREATEST BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-22 Thread Lance
- From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm Sent: Feb 21, 2015 11:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats I’ve wondered about food or water being the problem. They eat Friskies canned and several kinds of dry food including Meow Mix. They’re my parents

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-22 Thread dlgegg
YOU CAN GET A FLUID SET UP FROM THE VET AND IF YOUR MOTHER IS OK WITH IT, SHE COULD GIVE FLUIDS AS DIRECTED TO KEEP THEM HYDRATED. ANYONE I HAD TO DO THAT FOR WAS SO SICK THAT THEY DID NOT GIVE ME ANY TROUBLE. I HUNG THE BAG FROM A SHELF SUPPORT NEXT TO A COMFORTABLE CHAIR, POUT A TOWEL IN MY

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-22 Thread Lance
Thanks again, everyone. Both cats are going at 7:30 tomorrow morning. We do have an emergency clinic, and I’m trying to figure out if I should push for Callie to go there today. Unfortunately, Callie’s vet didn’t give her fluids on Friday, but he’s a trustworthy vet, and he might not have seen

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-22 Thread Marsha
You can test for dehydration by pulling up the loose skin on the back of the neck and see if it snaps back right away. If it stayed tented, I would get her in immediately. Marsha On 2/22/2015 2:08 PM, Lance wrote: Thanks again, everyone. Both cats are going at 7:30 tomorrow morning. We do

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-22 Thread Lance
I appreciate your thoughts. I told my parents that sub-q fluids might be required. The vet might get us something like that tomorrow. The good news is that Callie’s scruff didn’t tent, so it doesn’t appear that she’s badly dehydrated. My mom is giving her between 5-9 ml of water every two

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-21 Thread dlgegg
DO THEY BOTH HAVE URINE BACTERIA? IS THERE A PLANT IN THE HOUSE THEY MIGHT HAVE EATEN ON? HOW ARE THEY WITH THE LITTER BOX? WHEN HARLEY HAD A UTI AND STONES, HE DID NOT EVEN GO NEAR THE BOX, BUT EVERY WHERE ELSE. IF THEY USE THE BOX, ARE THE URINE CLUMPS NORMAL SIZE OR SMALL? HOMEY AND HARLEY

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-21 Thread Kelley S
But it isn't really likely that they both have a UTI at the same time...what are you feeding them? Could there be a problem with the food? Other than that I am thinking something contagious..I just don't know what:( On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 8:13 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: DO THEY BOTH

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-21 Thread dlgegg
DO YOU HAVE A WATER FOUNTAIN? THEY ARE GREAT AND MY CATS LOVE BOTH OF THEIRS. Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: I’ve wondered about food or water being the problem. They eat Friskies canned and several kinds of dry food including Meow Mix. They’re my parents’ cats, and I’m advocating

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-21 Thread dlgegg
FOR SURE, GET THEM ON BETTER FOOD, SOMETHING WITHOUT WHEAT, CORN OR SOY. I HAVE GONE TO BLUE BUFFALO AND THEY HAVE A RABBIT AND DUCK THAT MY CATS LOVE. Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: I’ve wondered about food or water being the problem. They eat Friskies canned and several kinds of

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-21 Thread Lance
I’ve wondered about food or water being the problem. They eat Friskies canned and several kinds of dry food including Meow Mix. They’re my parents’ cats, and I’m advocating for getting better quality food. Another note: about four weeks ago, my dad’s 15yro shih tzu became very ill, and it

Re: [Felvtalk] [OT] two sick cats

2015-02-21 Thread Lance
Sidney’s urine wasn’t tested. Unfortunately, he didn’t see the same vet that Callie did. That would have helped. I don’t think we have any indoor plants that are new or unusual. Sidney goes outside, but does not leave the fenced-in yard. Callie is an indoor cat. Since Sidney goes out, he does