Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[dlgegg]

Is this something you can get and keep on hand just in case?  Being able to rub 
on the ear is great.  My guys do not want their mouths messed with and hate it 
when they need an oral medication.

 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: 
> Hi Ashley
> 
> I echo what Amy has said. Stomatitis usually presents as some reddening of 
> the gum, usually along the teeth line. It doesn’t usually cause too much of a 
> problem for the cats, but you might notice bad breath, for example. Sometimes 
> it might result in the need to extract a tooth, but not too often and not 
> usually until it has a been around a while. Antibiotics and steroids will 
> usually help – especially prednisone. I get it from my vets now in a 
> transdermal cream, with is great because you just rub it on the inside of a 
> cat’s ears and you don’t need to crank open their mouths. This is especially 
> important if their gums are sore or they have an infected tooth or more. It 
> hurts more to open the mouth, quite obviously. I have one cat who has 
> stomatitis and an infected tooth. I find that when I give her the transdermal 
> prednisone, the pain in her mouth/gums is reduced and she will be able to eat 
> normally again.
> 
> However, as Amy has said, I don’t think it is too common to get stomatitis at 
> a level when it is really problematic.
> 
> Amani
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
> Sent: June-14-16 10:04 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
> 
> Hi Ashley,
> 
> I can only comment on the stomatitis. Haven't dealt with asthma. I've had 
> numerous leuk positives and have never had to deal with major mouth issues. 
> I've had some with red gums that need a dose of antibiotics and or pred but 
> they always respond well. I volunteer for a rescue, though, and we see so 
> much stomatitis. There are so many treatment options and in my experience no 
> two vets agree. Many of our cats have had 2nd opinions and they totally 
> differ. Some vets test for Bartonella, some think it is a waste. Some do 
> antibiotics and or steroids. Some recommend laser treatment. Some suggest 
> full extraction. I can tell you that we have not had to do full extractions 
> on any cats since I've been with the rescue. We always try other methods and 
> they seem to respond well. That said, if a cat is really painful and not 
> responding to treatment, I have heard it is more humane to extract so they 
> are not in pain. If we had a cat that was an extreme case, we wouldn't be 
> opposed to extractions. If I was going to do that, I think I'd want a 2nd 
> opinion to make sure that it is really necessary as I've seen vets that jump 
> to that too quickly.
> 
> As far as keeping them healthy, just love them, try to minimize stress, watch 
> their health and treat anything that comes up as needed. I'm sure supplements 
> and other things help too but I just love mine and do everything I can to 
> keep them healthy. Nobody knows how long you will have. I've had some that 
> live months and I have one that has been with me 12 years. Just enjoy Twigs 
> for whatever time you have.  I hope you have many happy years together.
> 
> Just my 2 cents.
> Amy
> 
> 
> From: ashley egger <ashleyeeg...@gmail.com<mailto:ashleyeeg...@gmail.com>>
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:18 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
> 
> Hi there!
> I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed 
> about a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out 
> there and hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with some 
> of things I'm facing.
> 
> Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative and 
> was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to the 
> vet and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been exposed to 
> no other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while with the 
> rescue or a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed Felv and 
> stomatitis, but his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly normal- eating, 
> playing, etc.  I am just filled with dread at the thought that he may not 
> always be like this. Back at the vet today for check-up- had them do another 
> Elisa test- still positive (damnit) but bloodwork still perfect and he has 
> actually gained weight (a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and vet said he seemed 
> remarkably healthy. He still has the cough and vet diagnosed asthma after I 
> showed her a video of him having one his "spells."  H

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[dlgegg]

I have indeed been lucky and hope to continue being so.  Don't know what I 
would do without my babies.  Right now, Harley is exploring the pile of 
branches left by the tree man.  He just cut a 100' white Ok that was 3' from 
the corner of the house with the deck wrapped around it.  It died this year and 
was threatening my brand new roof and I knew the insurance company would not 
cover the damage if it fell.  Hated to see it go, gave lots of shade and was 
Harley's route to the roof.  Sure the downed branche will give lots of 
exploring.


 swacht1...@comcast.net wrote: 
> I guess you all have been lucky – or your kitty cats have been lucky – 
> stomatitis can be horrible – yes bad breath but lesions in the mouth – 
> infection – not to be taken lightly – especially with an FeLV kitty.  
> Speaking from experience – dealing with it now.
> 
> I do agree 2nd opinions are important.
> Sandy W
> 
> From: Amani Oakley 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:29 PM
> To: Amy ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
> 
> Hi Ashley
> 
>  
> 
> I echo what Amy has said. Stomatitis usually presents as some reddening of 
> the gum, usually along the teeth line. It doesn’t usually cause too much of a 
> problem for the cats, but you might notice bad breath, for example. Sometimes 
> it might result in the need to extract a tooth, but not too often and not 
> usually until it has a been around a while. Antibiotics and steroids will 
> usually help – especially prednisone. I get it from my vets now in a 
> transdermal cream, with is great because you just rub it on the inside of a 
> cat’s ears and you don’t need to crank open their mouths. This is especially 
> important if their gums are sore or they have an infected tooth or more. It 
> hurts more to open the mouth, quite obviously. I have one cat who has 
> stomatitis and an infected tooth. I find that when I give her the transdermal 
> prednisone, the pain in her mouth/gums is reduced and she will be able to eat 
> normally again.
> 
>  
> 
> However, as Amy has said, I don’t think it is too common to get stomatitis at 
> a level when it is really problematic.
> 
>  
> 
> Amani
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
> Sent: June-14-16 10:04 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Ashley,
> 
>  
> 
> I can only comment on the stomatitis. Haven't dealt with asthma. I've had 
> numerous leuk positives and have never had to deal with major mouth issues. 
> I've had some with red gums that need a dose of antibiotics and or pred but 
> they always respond well. I volunteer for a rescue, though, and we see so 
> much stomatitis. There are so many treatment options and in my experience no 
> two vets agree. Many of our cats have had 2nd opinions and they totally 
> differ. Some vets test for Bartonella, some think it is a waste. Some do 
> antibiotics and or steroids. Some recommend laser treatment. Some suggest 
> full extraction. I can tell you that we have not had to do full extractions 
> on any cats since I've been with the rescue. We always try other methods and 
> they seem to respond well. That said, if a cat is really painful and not 
> responding to treatment, I have heard it is more humane to extract so they 
> are not in pain. If we had a cat that was an extreme case, we wouldn't be 
> opposed to extractions. If I was going to do that, I think I'd want a 2nd 
> opinion to make sure that it is really necessary as I've seen vets that jump 
> to that too quickly.
> 
>  
> 
> As far as keeping them healthy, just love them, try to minimize stress, watch 
> their health and treat anything that comes up as needed. I'm sure supplements 
> and other things help too but I just love mine and do everything I can to 
> keep them healthy. Nobody knows how long you will have. I've had some that 
> live months and I have one that has been with me 12 years. Just enjoy Twigs 
> for whatever time you have.  I hope you have many happy years together.
> 
>  
> 
> Just my 2 cents.
> 
> Amy
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: ashley egger <ashleyeeg...@gmail.com>
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:18 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
> 
>  
> 
> Hi there!
> 
> I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed 
> about a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out 
> there and hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with some 
> of things I'm facing.
>

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[dlgegg]

No need to apoligize, we have all been there at one time or another, maybe 
more.  It is an evil thing that takes our babies from us all to early.  I don't 
understand why vets and researchers do not do more to stop it.  I lost my 
Nitnoy to it.  There was nothing I did that helped  and I felt so helpless, 
angry.  Hopefully, someone will find a cure, preventative soon.  In the 
meantime, we will rely on support from those who know and understand to help us 
through the grief.  Will keep you in my prayers.


 Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote: 
> I hate felv with all of my heart and soul. I wish it was it was something we 
> could all stomp on and strangle and beat the living daylights out of. I did 
> laundry tonight and washed the towel from Tucks carrier and vacuumed the 
> porch rug that had one of his claw sheds on it. I still miss him so much. I 
> love Josie but it's still hard to get over how unfair it is to lose our 
> babies to some stupid little micro organism virus that needs to be wiped from 
> the face of the earth. I pray everyday that someone finds a way to kill this 
> virus so no animal or human ever has to suffer from it again. I long for the 
> day when our little group is defunct because it is no longer needed. Sorry 
> for throwing this rant in, emotional day at the Dagner household, I just want 
> so badly for everyone's babies to be able to survive and for their humans to 
> not have to go through this. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 15, 2016, at 9:34 PM, <swacht1...@comcast.net> 
> > <swacht1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > 
> > I guess you all have been lucky – or your kitty cats have been lucky – 
> > stomatitis can be horrible – yes bad breath but lesions in the mouth – 
> > infection – not to be taken lightly – especially with an FeLV kitty.  
> > Speaking from experience – dealing with it now.
> >  
> > I do agree 2nd opinions are important.
> > Sandy W
> >  
> > From: Amani Oakley
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:29 PM
> > To: Amy ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
> >  
> > Hi Ashley
> >  
> > I echo what Amy has said. Stomatitis usually presents as some reddening of 
> > the gum, usually along the teeth line. It doesn’t usually cause too much of 
> > a problem for the cats, but you might notice bad breath, for example. 
> > Sometimes it might result in the need to extract a tooth, but not too often 
> > and not usually until it has a been around a while. Antibiotics and 
> > steroids will usually help – especially prednisone. I get it from my vets 
> > now in a transdermal cream, with is great because you just rub it on the 
> > inside of a cat’s ears and you don’t need to crank open their mouths. This 
> > is especially important if their gums are sore or they have an infected 
> > tooth or more. It hurts more to open the mouth, quite obviously. I have one 
> > cat who has stomatitis and an infected tooth. I find that when I give her 
> > the transdermal prednisone, the pain in her mouth/gums is reduced and she 
> > will be able to eat normally again.
> >  
> > However, as Amy has said, I don’t think it is too common to get stomatitis 
> > at a level when it is really problematic.
> >  
> > Amani
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
> > Sent: June-14-16 10:04 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
> >  
> > Hi Ashley,
> >  
> > I can only comment on the stomatitis. Haven't dealt with asthma. I've had 
> > numerous leuk positives and have never had to deal with major mouth issues. 
> > I've had some with red gums that need a dose of antibiotics and or pred but 
> > they always respond well. I volunteer for a rescue, though, and we see so 
> > much stomatitis. There are so many treatment options and in my experience 
> > no two vets agree. Many of our cats have had 2nd opinions and they totally 
> > differ. Some vets test for Bartonella, some think it is a waste. Some do 
> > antibiotics and or steroids. Some recommend laser treatment. Some suggest 
> > full extraction. I can tell you that we have not had to do full extractions 
> > on any cats since I've been with the rescue. We always try other methods 
> > and they seem to respond well. That said, if a cat is really painful and 
> > not responding to treatment, I have heard it is more humane to extract so 
> > they are not in pain. If we had a cat that was an extreme case, we wouldn't 
> > be opposed to extractions. If I was going to do that, I think I'd want a 
&

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[Ardy Robertson]

Totally agree!!

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 9:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

 

I hate felv with all of my heart and soul. I wish it was it was something we 
could all stomp on and strangle and beat the living daylights out of. I did 
laundry tonight and washed the towel from Tucks carrier and vacuumed the porch 
rug that had one of his claw sheds on it. I still miss him so much. I love 
Josie but it's still hard to get over how unfair it is to lose our babies to 
some stupid little micro organism virus that needs to be wiped from the face of 
the earth. I pray everyday that someone finds a way to kill this virus so no 
animal or human ever has to suffer from it again. I long for the day when our 
little group is defunct because it is no longer needed. Sorry for throwing this 
rant in, emotional day at the Dagner household, I just want so badly for 
everyone's babies to be able to survive and for their humans to not have to go 
through this. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 15, 2016, at 9:34 PM, <swacht1...@comcast.net 
<mailto:swacht1...@comcast.net> > <swacht1...@comcast.net 
<mailto:swacht1...@comcast.net> > wrote:

I guess you all have been lucky – or your kitty cats have been lucky – 
stomatitis can be horrible – yes bad breath but lesions in the mouth – 
infection – not to be taken lightly – especially with an FeLV kitty.  Speaking 
from experience – dealing with it now.

 

I do agree 2nd opinions are important.

Sandy W

 

From: Amani Oakley <mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:29 PM

To: Amy <mailto:awilkin...@yahoo.com>  ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>  

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

 

Hi Ashley

 

I echo what Amy has said. Stomatitis usually presents as some reddening of the 
gum, usually along the teeth line. It doesn’t usually cause too much of a 
problem for the cats, but you might notice bad breath, for example. Sometimes 
it might result in the need to extract a tooth, but not too often and not 
usually until it has a been around a while. Antibiotics and steroids will 
usually help – especially prednisone. I get it from my vets now in a 
transdermal cream, with is great because you just rub it on the inside of a 
cat’s ears and you don’t need to crank open their mouths. This is especially 
important if their gums are sore or they have an infected tooth or more. It 
hurts more to open the mouth, quite obviously. I have one cat who has 
stomatitis and an infected tooth. I find that when I give her the transdermal 
prednisone, the pain in her mouth/gums is reduced and she will be able to eat 
normally again.

 

However, as Amy has said, I don’t think it is too common to get stomatitis at a 
level when it is really problematic.

 

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
Sent: June-14-16 10:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

 

Hi Ashley,

 

I can only comment on the stomatitis. Haven't dealt with asthma. I've had 
numerous leuk positives and have never had to deal with major mouth issues. 
I've had some with red gums that need a dose of antibiotics and or pred but 
they always respond well. I volunteer for a rescue, though, and we see so much 
stomatitis. There are so many treatment options and in my experience no two 
vets agree. Many of our cats have had 2nd opinions and they totally differ. 
Some vets test for Bartonella, some think it is a waste. Some do antibiotics 
and or steroids. Some recommend laser treatment. Some suggest full extraction. 
I can tell you that we have not had to do full extractions on any cats since 
I've been with the rescue. We always try other methods and they seem to respond 
well. That said, if a cat is really painful and not responding to treatment, I 
have heard it is more humane to extract so they are not in pain. If we had a 
cat that was an extreme case, we wouldn't be opposed to extractions. If I was 
going to do that, I think I'd want a 2nd opinion to make sure that it is really 
necessary as I've seen vets that jump to that too quickly.

 

As far as keeping them healthy, just love them, try to minimize stress, watch 
their health and treat anything that comes up as needed. I'm sure supplements 
and other things help too but I just love mine and do everything I can to keep 
them healthy. Nobody knows how long you will have. I've had some that live 
months and I have one that has been with me 12 years. Just enjoy Twigs for 
whatever time you have.  I hope you have many happy years together.

 

Just my 2 cents.

Amy

 


  _  


From: ashley egger <ashleyeeg...@gmail.com <mailto:ashleyeeg...@gmail.com> >
To: fel

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[Kelley S]

I've not had to deal with a great deal of stomatitis, but I've heard good
things about cold laser therapy following full mouth extraction.  Here's a
url that is interesting (but about FIV cats, not FELV ones).
http://www.fivtherapy.com/gingivostomatitis3.htm?ckattempt=1

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote:

> I hate felv with all of my heart and soul. I wish it was it was something
> we could all stomp on and strangle and beat the living daylights out of. I
> did laundry tonight and washed the towel from Tucks carrier and vacuumed
> the porch rug that had one of his claw sheds on it. I still miss him so
> much. I love Josie but it's still hard to get over how unfair it is to lose
> our babies to some stupid little micro organism virus that needs to be
> wiped from the face of the earth. I pray everyday that someone finds a way
> to kill this virus so no animal or human ever has to suffer from it again.
> I long for the day when our little group is defunct because it is no longer
> needed. Sorry for throwing this rant in, emotional day at the Dagner
> household, I just want so badly for everyone's babies to be able to survive
> and for their humans to not have to go through this.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 15, 2016, at 9:34 PM, <swacht1...@comcast.net> <
> swacht1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I guess you all have been lucky – or your kitty cats have been lucky –
> stomatitis can be horrible – yes bad breath but lesions in the mouth –
> infection – not to be taken lightly – especially with an FeLV kitty.
> Speaking from experience – dealing with it now.
>
> I do agree 2nd opinions are important.
> Sandy W
>
> *From:* Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:29 PM
> *To:* Amy <awilkin...@yahoo.com> ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
>
>
> Hi Ashley
>
>
>
> I echo what Amy has said. Stomatitis usually presents as some reddening of
> the gum, usually along the teeth line. It doesn’t usually cause too much of
> a problem for the cats, but you might notice bad breath, for example.
> Sometimes it might result in the need to extract a tooth, but not too often
> and not usually until it has a been around a while. Antibiotics and
> steroids will usually help – especially prednisone. I get it from my vets
> now in a transdermal cream, with is great because you just rub it on the
> inside of a cat’s ears and you don’t need to crank open their mouths. This
> is especially important if their gums are sore or they have an infected
> tooth or more. It hurts more to open the mouth, quite obviously. I have one
> cat who has stomatitis and an infected tooth. I find that when I give her
> the transdermal prednisone, the pain in her mouth/gums is reduced and she
> will be able to eat normally again.
>
>
>
> However, as Amy has said, I don’t think it is too common to get stomatitis
> at a level when it is really problematic.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] *On Behalf Of *Amy
> *Sent:* June-14-16 10:04 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
>
>
>
> Hi Ashley,
>
>
>
> I can only comment on the stomatitis. Haven't dealt with asthma. I've had
> numerous leuk positives and have never had to deal with major mouth issues.
> I've had some with red gums that need a dose of antibiotics and or pred but
> they always respond well. I volunteer for a rescue, though, and we see so
> much stomatitis. There are so many treatment options and in my experience
> no two vets agree. Many of our cats have had 2nd opinions and they totally
> differ. Some vets test for Bartonella, some think it is a waste. Some do
> antibiotics and or steroids. Some recommend laser treatment. Some suggest
> full extraction. I can tell you that we have not had to do full extractions
> on any cats since I've been with the rescue. We always try other methods
> and they seem to respond well. That said, if a cat is really painful and
> not responding to treatment, I have heard it is more humane to extract so
> they are not in pain. If we had a cat that was an extreme case, we wouldn't
> be opposed to extractions. If I was going to do that, I think I'd want a
> 2nd opinion to make sure that it is really necessary as I've seen vets that
> jump to that too quickly.
>
>
>
> As far as keeping them healthy, just love them, try to minimize stress,
> watch their health and treat anything that comes up as needed. I'm sure
> supplements and other things help too but I just love mine and do
> everything I can to

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[Rachel Dagner]

I hate felv with all of my heart and soul. I wish it was it was something we 
could all stomp on and strangle and beat the living daylights out of. I did 
laundry tonight and washed the towel from Tucks carrier and vacuumed the porch 
rug that had one of his claw sheds on it. I still miss him so much. I love 
Josie but it's still hard to get over how unfair it is to lose our babies to 
some stupid little micro organism virus that needs to be wiped from the face of 
the earth. I pray everyday that someone finds a way to kill this virus so no 
animal or human ever has to suffer from it again. I long for the day when our 
little group is defunct because it is no longer needed. Sorry for throwing this 
rant in, emotional day at the Dagner household, I just want so badly for 
everyone's babies to be able to survive and for their humans to not have to go 
through this. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2016, at 9:34 PM, <swacht1...@comcast.net> 
> <swacht1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I guess you all have been lucky – or your kitty cats have been lucky – 
> stomatitis can be horrible – yes bad breath but lesions in the mouth – 
> infection – not to be taken lightly – especially with an FeLV kitty.  
> Speaking from experience – dealing with it now.
>  
> I do agree 2nd opinions are important.
> Sandy W
>  
> From: Amani Oakley
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:29 PM
> To: Amy ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
>  
> Hi Ashley
>  
> I echo what Amy has said. Stomatitis usually presents as some reddening of 
> the gum, usually along the teeth line. It doesn’t usually cause too much of a 
> problem for the cats, but you might notice bad breath, for example. Sometimes 
> it might result in the need to extract a tooth, but not too often and not 
> usually until it has a been around a while. Antibiotics and steroids will 
> usually help – especially prednisone. I get it from my vets now in a 
> transdermal cream, with is great because you just rub it on the inside of a 
> cat’s ears and you don’t need to crank open their mouths. This is especially 
> important if their gums are sore or they have an infected tooth or more. It 
> hurts more to open the mouth, quite obviously. I have one cat who has 
> stomatitis and an infected tooth. I find that when I give her the transdermal 
> prednisone, the pain in her mouth/gums is reduced and she will be able to eat 
> normally again.
>  
> However, as Amy has said, I don’t think it is too common to get stomatitis at 
> a level when it is really problematic.
>  
> Amani
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
> Sent: June-14-16 10:04 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
>  
> Hi Ashley,
>  
> I can only comment on the stomatitis. Haven't dealt with asthma. I've had 
> numerous leuk positives and have never had to deal with major mouth issues. 
> I've had some with red gums that need a dose of antibiotics and or pred but 
> they always respond well. I volunteer for a rescue, though, and we see so 
> much stomatitis. There are so many treatment options and in my experience no 
> two vets agree. Many of our cats have had 2nd opinions and they totally 
> differ. Some vets test for Bartonella, some think it is a waste. Some do 
> antibiotics and or steroids. Some recommend laser treatment. Some suggest 
> full extraction. I can tell you that we have not had to do full extractions 
> on any cats since I've been with the rescue. We always try other methods and 
> they seem to respond well. That said, if a cat is really painful and not 
> responding to treatment, I have heard it is more humane to extract so they 
> are not in pain. If we had a cat that was an extreme case, we wouldn't be 
> opposed to extractions. If I was going to do that, I think I'd want a 2nd 
> opinion to make sure that it is really necessary as I've seen vets that jump 
> to that too quickly.
>  
> As far as keeping them healthy, just love them, try to minimize stress, watch 
> their health and treat anything that comes up as needed. I'm sure supplements 
> and other things help too but I just love mine and do everything I can to 
> keep them healthy. Nobody knows how long you will have. I've had some that 
> live months and I have one that has been with me 12 years. Just enjoy Twigs 
> for whatever time you have.  I hope you have many happy years together.
>  
> Just my 2 cents.
> Amy
>  
> 
> From: ashley egger <ashleyeeg...@gmail.com>
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:18 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
>  
> Hi there!
> I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[swacht1946]

I guess you all have been lucky – or your kitty cats have been lucky – 
stomatitis can be horrible – yes bad breath but lesions in the mouth – 
infection – not to be taken lightly – especially with an FeLV kitty.  Speaking 
from experience – dealing with it now.

I do agree 2nd opinions are important.
Sandy W

From: Amani Oakley 
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:29 PM
To: Amy ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

Hi Ashley

 

I echo what Amy has said. Stomatitis usually presents as some reddening of the 
gum, usually along the teeth line. It doesn’t usually cause too much of a 
problem for the cats, but you might notice bad breath, for example. Sometimes 
it might result in the need to extract a tooth, but not too often and not 
usually until it has a been around a while. Antibiotics and steroids will 
usually help – especially prednisone. I get it from my vets now in a 
transdermal cream, with is great because you just rub it on the inside of a 
cat’s ears and you don’t need to crank open their mouths. This is especially 
important if their gums are sore or they have an infected tooth or more. It 
hurts more to open the mouth, quite obviously. I have one cat who has 
stomatitis and an infected tooth. I find that when I give her the transdermal 
prednisone, the pain in her mouth/gums is reduced and she will be able to eat 
normally again.

 

However, as Amy has said, I don’t think it is too common to get stomatitis at a 
level when it is really problematic.

 

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
Sent: June-14-16 10:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

 

Hi Ashley,

 

I can only comment on the stomatitis. Haven't dealt with asthma. I've had 
numerous leuk positives and have never had to deal with major mouth issues. 
I've had some with red gums that need a dose of antibiotics and or pred but 
they always respond well. I volunteer for a rescue, though, and we see so much 
stomatitis. There are so many treatment options and in my experience no two 
vets agree. Many of our cats have had 2nd opinions and they totally differ. 
Some vets test for Bartonella, some think it is a waste. Some do antibiotics 
and or steroids. Some recommend laser treatment. Some suggest full extraction. 
I can tell you that we have not had to do full extractions on any cats since 
I've been with the rescue. We always try other methods and they seem to respond 
well. That said, if a cat is really painful and not responding to treatment, I 
have heard it is more humane to extract so they are not in pain. If we had a 
cat that was an extreme case, we wouldn't be opposed to extractions. If I was 
going to do that, I think I'd want a 2nd opinion to make sure that it is really 
necessary as I've seen vets that jump to that too quickly.

 

As far as keeping them healthy, just love them, try to minimize stress, watch 
their health and treat anything that comes up as needed. I'm sure supplements 
and other things help too but I just love mine and do everything I can to keep 
them healthy. Nobody knows how long you will have. I've had some that live 
months and I have one that has been with me 12 years. Just enjoy Twigs for 
whatever time you have.  I hope you have many happy years together.

 

Just my 2 cents.

Amy

 




From: ashley egger <ashleyeeg...@gmail.com>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:18 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

 

Hi there!

I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed about 
a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out there and 
hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with some of things 
I'm facing.

  

Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative and 
was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to the vet 
and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been exposed to no 
other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while with the rescue or 
a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed Felv and stomatitis, but 
his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly normal- eating, playing, etc.  I 
am just filled with dread at the thought that he may not always be like this. 
Back at the vet today for check-up- had them do another Elisa test- still 
positive (damnit) but bloodwork still perfect and he has actually gained weight 
(a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and vet said he seemed remarkably healthy. He still 
has the cough and vet diagnosed asthma after I showed her a video of him having 
one his "spells."  He does it on average once a day or every other day.  She 
prescribed advair inhaler for the asthma and full extraction of all his teeth 
for the stomatitis. 



My questions I guess are:

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Ashley

I echo what Amy has said. Stomatitis usually presents as some reddening of the 
gum, usually along the teeth line. It doesn’t usually cause too much of a 
problem for the cats, but you might notice bad breath, for example. Sometimes 
it might result in the need to extract a tooth, but not too often and not 
usually until it has a been around a while. Antibiotics and steroids will 
usually help – especially prednisone. I get it from my vets now in a 
transdermal cream, with is great because you just rub it on the inside of a 
cat’s ears and you don’t need to crank open their mouths. This is especially 
important if their gums are sore or they have an infected tooth or more. It 
hurts more to open the mouth, quite obviously. I have one cat who has 
stomatitis and an infected tooth. I find that when I give her the transdermal 
prednisone, the pain in her mouth/gums is reduced and she will be able to eat 
normally again.

However, as Amy has said, I don’t think it is too common to get stomatitis at a 
level when it is really problematic.

Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
Sent: June-14-16 10:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

Hi Ashley,

I can only comment on the stomatitis. Haven't dealt with asthma. I've had 
numerous leuk positives and have never had to deal with major mouth issues. 
I've had some with red gums that need a dose of antibiotics and or pred but 
they always respond well. I volunteer for a rescue, though, and we see so much 
stomatitis. There are so many treatment options and in my experience no two 
vets agree. Many of our cats have had 2nd opinions and they totally differ. 
Some vets test for Bartonella, some think it is a waste. Some do antibiotics 
and or steroids. Some recommend laser treatment. Some suggest full extraction. 
I can tell you that we have not had to do full extractions on any cats since 
I've been with the rescue. We always try other methods and they seem to respond 
well. That said, if a cat is really painful and not responding to treatment, I 
have heard it is more humane to extract so they are not in pain. If we had a 
cat that was an extreme case, we wouldn't be opposed to extractions. If I was 
going to do that, I think I'd want a 2nd opinion to make sure that it is really 
necessary as I've seen vets that jump to that too quickly.

As far as keeping them healthy, just love them, try to minimize stress, watch 
their health and treat anything that comes up as needed. I'm sure supplements 
and other things help too but I just love mine and do everything I can to keep 
them healthy. Nobody knows how long you will have. I've had some that live 
months and I have one that has been with me 12 years. Just enjoy Twigs for 
whatever time you have.  I hope you have many happy years together.

Just my 2 cents.
Amy


From: ashley egger <ashleyeeg...@gmail.com<mailto:ashleyeeg...@gmail.com>>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:18 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

Hi there!
I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed about 
a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out there and 
hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with some of things 
I'm facing.

Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative and 
was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to the vet 
and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been exposed to no 
other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while with the rescue or 
a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed Felv and stomatitis, but 
his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly normal- eating, playing, etc.  I 
am just filled with dread at the thought that he may not always be like this. 
Back at the vet today for check-up- had them do another Elisa test- still 
positive (damnit) but bloodwork still perfect and he has actually gained weight 
(a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and vet said he seemed remarkably healthy. He still 
has the cough and vet diagnosed asthma after I showed her a video of him having 
one his "spells."  He does it on average once a day or every other day.  She 
prescribed advair inhaler for the asthma and full extraction of all his teeth 
for the stomatitis.

My questions I guess are:
-Anyone have cat with both felv and asthma?  any concerns with inhaler use?  Is 
this the best treatment?

-Any thoughts on the stomatitis and anyone have experience with the 
extractions?  Is this the best treatment?

-Also what can I do to prolong this mostly healthy time for Twigs and prevent 
(or at least delay) his decline from the felv (ugh I HATE that word so much.)  
Realistically how much time do I have? I feed him good grain free food and he 
takes multiple 

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[swacht1946]

Hi Ashley, I am currently dealing with one if my cats who has stomatitis – his 
is not FeLV – there is some talk about stomatitis and the Calicivirus and 
stomatitis – I’ve done a lot of searching and found lots of sites and 
information – one I thought easy to understand – stomatitisincats.com – My 
Rascal has had most of his teeth removed – has been on antibiotics and 
anti-inflammatory meds – his is 9 years old. Hills has canned called Recovery 
and then there is also A/D by prescription which are good for regular feeding 
and syringe feeding.  If you can, get a 2nd opinion of total teeth removal.

Sandy W

From: Katherine K. 
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 2:39 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

Ashley,
My older FeLV boy gets seasonal allergies from April - November where he has 
wheezing and chest congestion (No sneezing or watery eyes/nose). He's been 
x-rayed for asthma a couple of times but not found much. I give him lysine but 
he still has some coughing. 

Sorry to hear about your little buddy! Hope he feels better soon. Glad he's 
still doing well at age 2. 

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:31 AM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:

  Have you tried baby food (make sue it does not have onion or garlic in it), 
push come to shove, you could use an eye dropper or yringe to get it past the 
painful teeth. At least she would be getting food.  Once I got some chicken 
livers at the grocery store, boiled them and then pureed them.  Or get some 
mackeral, boil it and puree.  They seem to love foods that smell.



   Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote:
  >
  Hi Ashley,

  I am so sorry to hear your baby Twigs is having problems. We all know how 
devastating it is to have a sick baby. I don't know anything about stomatitis 
so I did some reading on it. Sounds like it can be a very painful and life 
threatening illness if it gets bad. From what you said he is still eating and 
acting normal though. I read where some kitties have had teeth cleanings 
followed with regular brushings and that this can help. Not sure how much it 
would help a felv cat or if he would even let you brush but maybe something to 
consider. I have a new baby after losing my felv baby and am bound and 
determined to brush her teeth and get her used to it.
  As for the asthma I would probably try the medicine and see if it helps. I 
checked my Marty Goldstein book and he says he uses something called Dr. 
Christopher’s Breathe Aid and Pinellia 16 for coughing and asthma. So maybe 
something you can look into as well.
  I am glad you are feeding him good food and giving supplements. I am praying 
that whatever treatments you chose are effective and help him live a longer and 
healthier life. We can only do what we can that is within our financial means 
for our babies and sometimes you can spend everything you have and still lose 
to this sad disease. Just give him love and enjoy everyday you have with him. 
You are a good mommy and you love him and he knows that. I will keep you both I 
my prayers. I hope you will stay with us through your journey and lean on us as 
needed. It was very helpful for me to have this group to come to for support.

  Rachel


  Sent from my iPhone

  > On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:18 PM, ashley egger <ashleyeeg...@gmail.com> wrote:
  >
  > Hi there!
  > I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed 
about a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out there 
and hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with some of 
things I'm facing.
  >
  > Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative 
and was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to the 
vet and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been exposed to no 
other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while with the rescue or 
a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed Felv and stomatitis, but 
his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly normal- eating, playing, etc.  I 
am just filled with dread at the thought that he may not always be like this. 
Back at the vet today for check-up- had them do another Elisa test- still 
positive (damnit) but bloodwork still perfect and he has actually gained weight 
(a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and vet said he seemed remarkably healthy. He still 
has the cough and vet diagnosed asthma after I showed her a video of him having 
one his "spells."  He does it on average once a day or every other day.  She 
prescribed advair inhaler for the asthma and full extraction of all his teeth 
for the stomatitis.
  >
  > My questions I guess are:
  > -Anyone have cat with both felv and asthma?  any concerns with inhaler use? 
 Is this the best treatment?
  >
  > -Any thoughts on the stomatitis and anyone have experience with the 
extractions?  Is this the best treatment?

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[Katherine K.]

Ashley,
My older FeLV boy gets seasonal allergies from April - November where he
has wheezing and chest congestion (No sneezing or watery eyes/nose). He's
been x-rayed for asthma a couple of times but not found much. I give him
lysine but he still has some coughing.

Sorry to hear about your little buddy! Hope he feels better soon. Glad he's
still doing well at age 2.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:31 AM,  wrote:

> Have you tried baby food (make sue it does not have onion or garlic in
> it), push come to shove, you could use an eye dropper or yringe to get it
> past the painful teeth. At least she would be getting food.  Once I got
> some chicken livers at the grocery store, boiled them and then pureed
> them.  Or get some mackeral, boil it and puree.  They seem to love foods
> that smell.
>
>
>  Rachel Dagner  wrote:
> >
> Hi Ashley,
>
> I am so sorry to hear your baby Twigs is having problems. We all know how
> devastating it is to have a sick baby. I don't know anything about
> stomatitis so I did some reading on it. Sounds like it can be a very
> painful and life threatening illness if it gets bad. From what you said he
> is still eating and acting normal though. I read where some kitties have
> had teeth cleanings followed with regular brushings and that this can help.
> Not sure how much it would help a felv cat or if he would even let you
> brush but maybe something to consider. I have a new baby after losing my
> felv baby and am bound and determined to brush her teeth and get her used
> to it.
> As for the asthma I would probably try the medicine and see if it helps. I
> checked my Marty Goldstein book and he says he uses something called Dr.
> Christopher’s Breathe Aid and Pinellia 16 for coughing and asthma. So maybe
> something you can look into as well.
> I am glad you are feeding him good food and giving supplements. I am
> praying that whatever treatments you chose are effective and help him live
> a longer and healthier life. We can only do what we can that is within our
> financial means for our babies and sometimes you can spend everything you
> have and still lose to this sad disease. Just give him love and enjoy
> everyday you have with him. You are a good mommy and you love him and he
> knows that. I will keep you both I my prayers. I hope you will stay with us
> through your journey and lean on us as needed. It was very helpful for me
> to have this group to come to for support.
>
> Rachel
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:18 PM, ashley egger 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there!
> > I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was
> diagnosed about a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put
> myself out there and hopefully some of you may have experience or
> suggestions with some of things I'm facing.
> >
> > Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative
> and was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to
> the vet and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been
> exposed to no other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while
> with the rescue or a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed
> Felv and stomatitis, but his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly
> normal- eating, playing, etc.  I am just filled with dread at the thought
> that he may not always be like this. Back at the vet today for check-up-
> had them do another Elisa test- still positive (damnit) but bloodwork still
> perfect and he has actually gained weight (a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and
> vet said he seemed remarkably healthy. He still has the cough and vet
> diagnosed asthma after I showed her a video of him having one his
> "spells."  He does it on average once a day or every other day.  She
> prescribed advair inhaler for the asthma and full extraction of all his
> teeth for the stomatitis.
> >
> > My questions I guess are:
> > -Anyone have cat with both felv and asthma?  any concerns with inhaler
> use?  Is this the best treatment?
> >
> > -Any thoughts on the stomatitis and anyone have experience with the
> extractions?  Is this the best treatment?
> >
> > -Also what can I do to prolong this mostly healthy time for Twigs and
> prevent (or at least delay) his decline from the felv (ugh I HATE that word
> so much.)  Realistically how much time do I have? I feed him good grain
> free food and he takes multiple supplements currently.
> >
> >I will do whatever I can to prolong his life and comfort, but cost is
> definitely an issue too.  Anyway thanks in advance for any help.
> >
> > -ashley
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Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[dlgegg]

Have you tried baby food (make sue it does not have onion or garlic in it), 
push come to shove, you could use an eye dropper or yringe to get it past the 
painful teeth. At least she would be getting food.  Once I got some chicken 
livers at the grocery store, boiled them and then pureed them.  Or get some 
mackeral, boil it and puree.  They seem to love foods that smell.


 Rachel Dagner  wrote: 
> 
Hi Ashley, 

I am so sorry to hear your baby Twigs is having problems. We all know how 
devastating it is to have a sick baby. I don't know anything about stomatitis 
so I did some reading on it. Sounds like it can be a very painful and life 
threatening illness if it gets bad. From what you said he is still eating and 
acting normal though. I read where some kitties have had teeth cleanings 
followed with regular brushings and that this can help. Not sure how much it 
would help a felv cat or if he would even let you brush but maybe something to 
consider. I have a new baby after losing my felv baby and am bound and 
determined to brush her teeth and get her used to it. 
As for the asthma I would probably try the medicine and see if it helps. I 
checked my Marty Goldstein book and he says he uses something called Dr. 
Christopher’s Breathe Aid and Pinellia 16 for coughing and asthma. So maybe 
something you can look into as well.
I am glad you are feeding him good food and giving supplements. I am praying 
that whatever treatments you chose are effective and help him live a longer and 
healthier life. We can only do what we can that is within our financial means 
for our babies and sometimes you can spend everything you have and still lose 
to this sad disease. Just give him love and enjoy everyday you have with him. 
You are a good mommy and you love him and he knows that. I will keep you both I 
my prayers. I hope you will stay with us through your journey and lean on us as 
needed. It was very helpful for me to have this group to come to for support. 

Rachel 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:18 PM, ashley egger  wrote:
> 
> Hi there!
> I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed 
> about a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out 
> there and hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with some 
> of things I'm facing.
>   
> Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative and 
> was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to the 
> vet and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been exposed to 
> no other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while with the 
> rescue or a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed Felv and 
> stomatitis, but his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly normal- eating, 
> playing, etc.  I am just filled with dread at the thought that he may not 
> always be like this. Back at the vet today for check-up- had them do another 
> Elisa test- still positive (damnit) but bloodwork still perfect and he has 
> actually gained weight (a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and vet said he seemed 
> remarkably healthy. He still has the cough and vet diagnosed asthma after I 
> showed her a video of him having one his "spells."  He does it on average 
> once a day or every other day.  She prescribed advair inhaler for the asthma 
> and full extraction of all his teeth for the stomatitis.
>
> My questions I guess are:
> -Anyone have cat with both felv and asthma?  any concerns with inhaler use?  
> Is this the best treatment?
> 
> -Any thoughts on the stomatitis and anyone have experience with the 
> extractions?  Is this the best treatment?
> 
> -Also what can I do to prolong this mostly healthy time for Twigs and prevent 
> (or at least delay) his decline from the felv (ugh I HATE that word so much.) 
>  Realistically how much time do I have? I feed him good grain free food and 
> he takes multiple supplements currently.
> 
>I will do whatever I can to prolong his life and comfort, but cost is 
> definitely an issue too.  Anyway thanks in advance for any help. 
> 
> -ashley
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Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[Ashley Egger]

Thank you for the kind words and encouragement!! It really means a lot 
especially coming from people that get it. I will look into the things you 
mentioned. Congrats on your new kitty and so sorry for your loss of your other 
baby. I adopted Twigs shortly after the sudden tragic death of my beloved Boo, 
my cat of 10 years. Twigs has def helped me heal from losing Boo but it makes 
all this Felv mess even harder. Enjoy your new baby and thanks again!

Ashley

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Rachel Dagner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Ashley, 
> 
> I am so sorry to hear your baby Twigs is having problems. We all know how 
> devastating it is to have a sick baby. I don't know anything about stomatitis 
> so I did some reading on it. Sounds like it can be a very painful and life 
> threatening illness if it gets bad. From what you said he is still eating and 
> acting normal though. I read where some kitties have had teeth cleanings 
> followed with regular brushings and that this can help. Not sure how much it 
> would help a felv cat or if he would even let you brush but maybe something 
> to consider. I have a new baby after losing my felv baby and am bound and 
> determined to brush her teeth and get her used to it. 
> As for the asthma I would probably try the medicine and see if it helps. I 
> checked my Marty Goldstein book and he says he uses something called Dr. 
> Christopher’s Breathe Aid and Pinellia 16 for coughing and asthma. So maybe 
> something you can look into as well.
> I am glad you are feeding him good food and giving supplements. I am praying 
> that whatever treatments you chose are effective and help him live a longer 
> and healthier life. We can only do what we can that is within our financial 
> means for our babies and sometimes you can spend everything you have and 
> still lose to this sad disease. Just give him love and enjoy everyday you 
> have with him. You are a good mommy and you love him and he knows that. I 
> will keep you both I my prayers. I hope you will stay with us through your 
> journey and lean on us as needed. It was very helpful for me to have this 
> group to come to for support. 
> 
> Rachel 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:18 PM, ashley egger  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there!
>>I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed 
>> about a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out 
>> there and hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with some 
>> of things I'm facing.
>> 
>>Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative and 
>> was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to the 
>> vet and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been exposed to 
>> no other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while with the 
>> rescue or a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed Felv and 
>> stomatitis, but his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly normal- 
>> eating, playing, etc.  I am just filled with dread at the thought that he 
>> may not always be like this. Back at the vet today for check-up- had them do 
>> another Elisa test- still positive (damnit) but bloodwork still perfect and 
>> he has actually gained weight (a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and vet said he 
>> seemed remarkably healthy. He still has the cough and vet diagnosed asthma 
>> after I showed her a video of him having one his "spells."  He does it on 
>> average once a day or every other day.  She prescribed advair inhaler for 
>> the asthma and full extraction of all his teeth for the stomatitis.
>> 
>> My questions I guess are:
>> -Anyone have cat with both felv and asthma?  any concerns with inhaler use?  
>> Is this the best treatment?
>> 
>> -Any thoughts on the stomatitis and anyone have experience with the 
>> extractions?  Is this the best treatment?
>> 
>> -Also what can I do to prolong this mostly healthy time for Twigs and 
>> prevent (or at least delay) his decline from the felv (ugh I HATE that word 
>> so much.)  Realistically how much time do I have? I feed him good grain free 
>> food and he takes multiple supplements currently.
>> 
>>   I will do whatever I can to prolong his life and comfort, but cost is 
>> definitely an issue too.  Anyway thanks in advance for any help. 
>> 
>> -ashley
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Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[Amy]

Hi Ashley,
I can only comment on the stomatitis. Haven't dealt with asthma. I've had 
numerous leuk positives and have never had to deal with major mouth issues. 
I've had some with red gums that need a dose of antibiotics and or pred but 
they always respond well. I volunteer for a rescue, though, and we see so much 
stomatitis. There are so many treatment options and in my experience no two 
vets agree. Many of our cats have had 2nd opinions and they totally differ. 
Some vets test for Bartonella, some think it is a waste. Some do antibiotics 
and or steroids. Some recommend laser treatment. Some suggest full extraction. 
I can tell you that we have not had to do full extractions on any cats since 
I've been with the rescue. We always try other methods and they seem to respond 
well. That said, if a cat is really painful and not responding to treatment, I 
have heard it is more humane to extract so they are not in pain. If we had a 
cat that was an extreme case, we wouldn't be opposed to extractions. If I was 
going to do that, I think I'd want a 2nd opinion to make sure that it is really 
necessary as I've seen vets that jump to that too quickly.
As far as keeping them healthy, just love them, try to minimize stress, watch 
their health and treat anything that comes up as needed. I'm sure supplements 
and other things help too but I just love mine and do everything I can to keep 
them healthy. Nobody knows how long you will have. I've had some that live 
months and I have one that has been with me 12 years. Just enjoy Twigs for 
whatever time you have.  I hope you have many happy years together.
Just my 2 cents.Amy

  From: ashley egger 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:18 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
   
Hi there!    I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was 
diagnosed about a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself 
out there and hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with 
some of things I'm facing.  Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue 
where he tested negative and was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a 
cough, I took him to the vet and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive 
(and had been exposed to no other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got 
it while with the rescue or a false neg. the first time.    Anyway- vet 
diagnosed Felv and stomatitis, but his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts 
perfectly normal- eating, playing, etc.  I am just filled with dread at the 
thought that he may not always be like this. Back at the vet today for 
check-up- had them do another Elisa test- still positive (damnit) but bloodwork 
still perfect and he has actually gained weight (a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and 
vet said he seemed remarkably healthy. He still has the cough and vet diagnosed 
asthma after I showed her a video of him having one his "spells."  He does it 
on average once a day or every other day.  She prescribed advair inhaler for 
the asthma and full extraction of all his teeth for the stomatitis.     My 
questions I guess are:-Anyone have cat with both felv and asthma?  any concerns 
with inhaler use?  Is this the best treatment?
-Any thoughts on the stomatitis and anyone have experience with the 
extractions?  Is this the best treatment? 
-Also what can I do to prolong this mostly healthy time for Twigs and prevent 
(or at least delay) his decline from the felv (ugh I HATE that word so much.)  
Realistically how much time do I have? I feed him good grain free food and he 
takes multiple supplements currently.
   I will do whatever I can to prolong his life and comfort, but cost is 
definitely an issue too.  Anyway thanks in advance for any help.  
-ashley
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Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[Rachel Dagner]

Hi Ashley, 

I am so sorry to hear your baby Twigs is having problems. We all know how 
devastating it is to have a sick baby. I don't know anything about stomatitis 
so I did some reading on it. Sounds like it can be a very painful and life 
threatening illness if it gets bad. From what you said he is still eating and 
acting normal though. I read where some kitties have had teeth cleanings 
followed with regular brushings and that this can help. Not sure how much it 
would help a felv cat or if he would even let you brush but maybe something to 
consider. I have a new baby after losing my felv baby and am bound and 
determined to brush her teeth and get her used to it. 
As for the asthma I would probably try the medicine and see if it helps. I 
checked my Marty Goldstein book and he says he uses something called Dr. 
Christopher’s Breathe Aid and Pinellia 16 for coughing and asthma. So maybe 
something you can look into as well.
I am glad you are feeding him good food and giving supplements. I am praying 
that whatever treatments you chose are effective and help him live a longer and 
healthier life. We can only do what we can that is within our financial means 
for our babies and sometimes you can spend everything you have and still lose 
to this sad disease. Just give him love and enjoy everyday you have with him. 
You are a good mommy and you love him and he knows that. I will keep you both I 
my prayers. I hope you will stay with us through your journey and lean on us as 
needed. It was very helpful for me to have this group to come to for support. 

Rachel 


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> On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:18 PM, ashley egger  wrote:
> 
> Hi there!
> I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed 
> about a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out 
> there and hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with some 
> of things I'm facing.
>   
> Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative and 
> was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to the 
> vet and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been exposed to 
> no other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while with the 
> rescue or a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed Felv and 
> stomatitis, but his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly normal- eating, 
> playing, etc.  I am just filled with dread at the thought that he may not 
> always be like this. Back at the vet today for check-up- had them do another 
> Elisa test- still positive (damnit) but bloodwork still perfect and he has 
> actually gained weight (a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and vet said he seemed 
> remarkably healthy. He still has the cough and vet diagnosed asthma after I 
> showed her a video of him having one his "spells."  He does it on average 
> once a day or every other day.  She prescribed advair inhaler for the asthma 
> and full extraction of all his teeth for the stomatitis.
>
> My questions I guess are:
> -Anyone have cat with both felv and asthma?  any concerns with inhaler use?  
> Is this the best treatment?
> 
> -Any thoughts on the stomatitis and anyone have experience with the 
> extractions?  Is this the best treatment?
> 
> -Also what can I do to prolong this mostly healthy time for Twigs and prevent 
> (or at least delay) his decline from the felv (ugh I HATE that word so much.) 
>  Realistically how much time do I have? I feed him good grain free food and 
> he takes multiple supplements currently.
> 
>I will do whatever I can to prolong his life and comfort, but cost is 
> definitely an issue too.  Anyway thanks in advance for any help. 
> 
> -ashley
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Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[dlgegg]

Not asthema, but hay fever.  Annie (now 5) is positive, healthy as a horse, 
weighs 6 - 8 pounds.  This year, she started haveing sneezing fits a couple 
times a day.  Seems to come on when door has been opened.  Healthy other than 
that.  Vet said hay fever just like people.  I also have problems this year 
with all the rain we have had and now heat, mold is high and pollen.Said I 
could give her pills or just do not open the door as much and try keeping her 
in along with myself.  Seems to have done the trick.
This might not be the case for your baby, but might give it a try.


 ashley egger  wrote: 
> Hi there!
> I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed
> about a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out
> there and hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with
> some of things I'm facing.
> 
> Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative
> and was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to
> the vet and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been
> exposed to no other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while
> with the rescue or a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed
> Felv and stomatitis, but his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly
> normal- eating, playing, etc.  I am just filled with dread at the thought
> that he may not always be like this. Back at the vet today for check-up-
> had them do another Elisa test- still positive (damnit) but bloodwork still
> perfect and he has actually gained weight (a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and
> vet said he seemed remarkably healthy. He still has the cough and vet
> diagnosed asthma after I showed her a video of him having one his
> "spells."  He does it on average once a day or every other day.  She
> prescribed advair inhaler for the asthma and full extraction of all his
> teeth for the stomatitis.
> 
> My questions I guess are:
> -Anyone have cat with both felv and asthma?  any concerns with inhaler
> use?  Is this the best treatment?
> 
> -Any thoughts on the stomatitis and anyone have experience with the
> extractions?  Is this the best treatment?
> 
> -Also what can I do to prolong this mostly healthy time for Twigs and
> prevent (or at least delay) his decline from the felv (ugh I HATE that word
> so much.)  Realistically how much time do I have? I feed him good grain
> free food and he takes multiple supplements currently.
> 
>I will do whatever I can to prolong his life and comfort, but cost is
> definitely an issue too.  Anyway thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> -ashley


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