Re: FIV and calico
Yes, Nina, I was saying in our shelter, the majority of the FIV cats ARE male, but with the female positives, most of them ARE calicos. And, second to the female calico FIV+s, are the solid black females (FIV+). Just an observation at our shelter Never really thought about "color distinction" before this thread started. Patti
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Now that I think of it,the Fiv cats at our shelter are all males but 2 are females and they are Calicos too. Sherry[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Nina, I was saying in our shelter, the majority of the FIV cats ARE male, but with the female positives, most of them ARE calicos. And, second to the female calico FIV+s, are the solid black females (FIV+). Just an observation at our shelter Never really thought about "color distinction" before this thread started. Patti Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
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Got it! I missed the male/female part. I knew my own fiv was a black male, and have only dealt with a few others through the shelter. They were all black males. BIG, intact males with lots of battle scars too.t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Nina, I was saying in our shelter, the majority of the FIV cats ARE male, but with the female positives, most of them ARE calicos. And, second to the female calico FIV+s, are the solid black females (FIV+). Just an observation at our shelter Never really thought about "color distinction" before this thread started. Patti
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In a message dated 12/30/05 11:41:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our FIV+ girls are few (10% female, 90% male), but the majority of them ARE calicos.. Meaning, the majority of the positive "females" are calico
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I am SOOO confused! lol.I don't remember who started this topic, but were they saying the majority of ALL fiv cats are calicos or the majority of female positives only?? Because I do know there are many more male fiv positives than females. So it wouldn't make sense if most fiv's are calicos because most are males and male calicos are rare. Does that make sense?Someone straighten me out!!!My fiv was black by the wayt[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 12/30/05 11:41:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Our FIV+ girls are few (10% female, 90% male), but the majority of them ARE calicos..Meaning, the majority of the positive "females" are calico
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Well, it seems to be a question that there is not currently an known correct answer to, but folks are providing their own experience with colors and FIV. I have 5 FIV cats - 3 males, 2 females, no calico, no orange. Gloria At 05:53 PM 12/31/2005, you wrote: I am SOOO confused! lol. I don't remember who started this topic, but were they saying the majority of ALL fiv cats are calicos or the majority of female positives only?? Because I do know there are many more male fiv positives than females. So it wouldn't make sense if most fiv's are calicos because most are males and male calicos are rare. Does that make sense? Someone straighten me out!!! My fiv was black by the way t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/30/05 11:41:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our FIV+ girls are few (10% female, 90% male), but the majority of them ARE calicos.. Meaning, the majority of the positive females are calico
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i think it's all my fault--i happened to mention that, at the sanctuary where i lived and worked, the majority of the FEMALE fiv's were calico. as the human spokesperson for CaLiCo (Calico Liberation Coalition), it made perfect sense to me, as it is well-known that calicos are the most adventurous of all cats and especially love to party darn, there i go again--it's a JOKE, folks. not that the majority of the girl positives were calico, because that is indeed true, but that there's any logical or physiological or demographic reason behindthe observation. (tho, there's no evidence against the theory, either.) On 12/31/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it seems to be a question that there is not currently an knowncorrect answer to, but folks are providing their own experience with colors and FIV.I have 5 FIV cats -3 males, 2 females, no calico, no orange.GloriaAt 05:53 PM 12/31/2005, you wrote:I am SOOO confused! lol.I don't remember who started this topic, but were they saying the majority of ALL fiv cats are calicos or the majority of female positivesonly??Because I do know there are many more male fiv positives thanfemales.So it wouldn't make sense if most fiv's are calicos because most are males and male calicos are rare. Does that make sense?Someone straighten me out!!!My fiv was black by the wayt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 12/30/05 11:41:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Our FIV+ girls are few (10% female, 90% male), but the majority of them ARE calicos..Meaning, the majority of the positive females are calico-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
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Any black, Gloria? N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it seems to be a question that there is not currently an known correct answer to, but folks are providing their own experience with colors and FIV. I have 5 FIV cats - 3 males, 2 females, no calico, no orange. Gloria
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No, they were saying that in their experience, the majority of the female FIV cats had been calicos. I don't remember seeing the start of this thread either, but it was either Patti, or MC that made the observation about a shelter/sanctuary situation. It was only an observation. Seems to me someone posted a paste from an authoritative source asking if there was any known correlation between fur color, (ie calico/orange gene) and FIV occurrence. From what I remember about that post, (I wish I could find it!), the fellow found the question interesting, but couldn't corroborate any studies involving color. He went on to talk about assertiveness associations and we all grabbed the ball and started talking about how calicos, (who are usually female and feisty), would logically be more likely to become infected because they're more likely to not back away from a fight. Did that help, or are you still confused? :) Nina catatonya wrote: I am SOOO confused! lol. I don't remember who started this topic, but were they saying the majority of ALL fiv cats are calicos or the majority of female positives only?? Because I do know there are many more male fiv positives than females. So it wouldn't make sense if most fiv's are calicos because most are males and male calicos are rare. Does that make sense? Someone straighten me out!!! My fiv was black by the way t
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FIV: 2 black male, 1 black female, 1 siamese mix female, 1 b w male FELV: 1 black male, 1 gray and white dlh male, 1 white w/ black tail male, 1 white w/ black tail female, 1 tabby gray w/ white paws female ALL ARE SWEETHEARTS too! ;) Gloria On Dec 31, 2005, at 11:00 PM, Nina wrote: Any black, Gloria? N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it seems to be a question that there is not currently an known correct answer to, but folks are providing their own experience with colors and FIV. I have 5 FIV cats - 3 males, 2 females, no calico, no orange. Gloria
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My first FELV cat was calico - Calawalla Banana Booboo, a real darling. However, I now have several FELV cats and FIV cats. None are calico. If there's any predominance in color, it's black. My friend Susan has several FELV and FIV, and I don't recall seeing a calico. FYI - Gloria On Dec 30, 2005, at 5:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both female cats that I have had with FIV (still have Buddy) were and are calico Michelle
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Calico's are notoriously feisty, strong willed and for lack of a better euphemism, leader-oriented. I'd never heard that they were more likely to get FIV, but the personality aspect sure makes sense, (same thing with the orange boys). Very interesting. MC, what's the name of the Calico group you talk about? Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both female cats that I have had with FIV (still have Buddy) were and are calico Michelle
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You know, I never really stood back and looked at the shelter's FIV females as far their colors, etc. Now, reading this, it really hits home Our FIV+ girls are few (10% female, 90% male), but the majority of them ARE calicos.. Also, second to the calicos are the solid black girls... Very odd. Nina, what you said about them being "feisty" is so true, and does make sense. Also, we see many more males testing positive for Felv/FIV, but the females we have had with both viruses have also been calicos. Patti
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I thought male calicos were very rare?t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, I never really stood back and looked at the shelter's FIV females as far their colors, etc. Now, reading this, it really hits home Our FIV+ girls are few (10% female, 90% male), but the majority of them ARE calicos.. Also, second to the calicos are the solid black girls... Very odd. Nina, what you said about them being "feisty" is so true, and does make sense. Also, we see many more males testing positive for Felv/FIV, but the females we have had with both viruses have also been calicos. Patti
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actually, male calicos are not THAT rare-- one in 3,000, i believe. however, FERTILE male calicos are very uncommon. CaLiCo (Calico Liberation Coalition) is a radical, left-paw social and political organization dedicated to world domination we have weekly chats, message boards. On 12/30/05, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought male calicos were very rare? t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, I never really stood back and looked at the shelter's FIV females as far their colors, etc. Now, reading this, it really hits home Our FIV+ girls are few (10% female, 90% male), but the majority of them ARE calicos.. Also, second to the calicos are the solid black girls... Very odd. Nina, what you said about them being feisty is so true, and does make sense. Also, we see many more males testing positive for Felv/FIV, but the females we have had with both viruses have also been calicos. Patti -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Ha!Well I had dinner with a friend of mine tonight who is our shelter director. She was telling me they had a calico male and was going on about how uncommon they are. I was thinking they were uncommon kind of like yellow females, but she said they were much more rare.I do tend to confuse calicos with torties..I happen to have 2 calico cats. One I would call a tortie, and the other I would call a calico. My 'calico' is my positive, DD. You can see her on the frappster site!I'm trying to get her to come to me right now with no success(to get a nail trim). She doesn't go for the nonchalant act of mine... Both of these cats are female and very domineering, but then so is my female gray tabby. lol. My guys just kind of 'hang out'. What's with that???Iwant to join CaLiCo!!!tTenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:actually, male calicos are not THAT rare-- one in 3,000, i believe. however, FERTILE male calicos are very uncommon.CaLiCo (Calico Liberation Coalition) is a radical, left-paw social and political organization dedicated to world domination we have weekly chats, message boards. On 12/30/05, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought male calicos were very rare?t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, I never really stood back and looked at the shelter's FIV females as far their colors, etc. Now, reading this, it really hits home Our FIV+ girls are few (10% female, 90% male), but the majority of them ARE calicos.. Also, second to the calicos are the solid black girls... Very odd. Nina, what you said about them being "feisty" is so true, and does make sense. Also, we see many more males testing positive for Felv/FIV, but the females we have had with both viruses have also been calicos. Patti -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
