Re: Fluids at home
Years ago I gave my Felipe fluids/sub-Q at home and he just sat there, no problem. PLEASE tell me what I can do to keep a jumpy fellow cooperative. I can't go back to the vet every day where he/Malachi, 18#, lays quite sweetly for the tech. This is the third day I have failed, confidence in myself is history. Sent hubby out for chocolate to sooth my wounded ego. Malachi is generally an easy-going guy. Any and all tips would be greatly appreciated. I have two CRF who will be needing sub-q soon, too. Del - Original Message - From: Kelly L To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:45 PM Subject: Re: False positive and negative? At 06:39 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote: BOY do you need a new VETand learn to do fluids at home, we can all help and there is a pharmacy on line where you can get what you need once you become comfortable and I CANT IMAGINE a vet with holding treatment! Congratulations for using your own brain and boy would I be telling that vet off!!! Kelly I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative, positive, negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are the tests errored? My beloved Nebs was diagnosed two weeks ago just after his fourth birthday. I took him to the vet with a very bad case of the runs and no appetite. The vet, one I had not been to before, told me Nebs was felv positive and would be dead in a matter of days. He told me his kidneys were huge and the virus had destroyed them. He recommended that I put him down right away. I couldn't do it. He was too special and deserved a chance. He told me nothing would help. I asked him to do what another vet had done for another cat once, an injection of fluids for dehydration. He gave him that, but refused any medication, saying it wouldn't do any good. The next day, I begged him for some antibiotics and he gave me them but told me not to get my hopes up. I gave Nebs the medicine, and some Pet-tonic. The next day he was eating again. In two days, he was eating like a hog. In 3 days, his runs were gone. It's now been 2 weeks, and instead of being dead as the doctor predicted, he's practically back to normal! He's gained almost all his weight back and has his swagger again. His third eyelid, present for almost a year, is also gone. His stools are more normal than they've been in ages. I am wondering if maybe he'd had a severe kidney and intestional infection, and when that was cleared up, he was all right. I don't know if he's really felv positive or not, I'll get him retested at another vet soon, but even if he has it, his immune system was not as 'shot' as the vet said it was. So my questions are, are the tests sometimes wrong, and can a cat go in and out of good health while being infected? I had always heard the first sickness would basically be the last. I also want to say, please do not give up on your kitty if the vet says to put him down, he's going to die. You know your pet better than anyone, and if you feel he isn't at his end, don't do it. I am so glad I gave Nebs another chance when the vet didn't. The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007
Re: Fluids at home
*Someone had posted a clothes-pin trick... does anyone have that link still?! Sounds like this would do the trick for this little one...* *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/7/07, Del H. Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Years ago I gave my Felipe fluids/sub-Q at home and he just sat there, no problem.* *PLEASE tell me what I can do to keep a jumpy fellow cooperative. I can't go back to the vet every day where he/Malachi, 18#, lays quite sweetly for the tech. This is the third day I have failed, confidence in myself is history. Sent hubby out for chocolate to sooth my wounded ego. Malachi is generally an easy-going guy. Any and all tips would be greatly appreciated. I have two CRF who will be needing sub-q soon, too.* ** *Del* - Original Message - *From:* Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:45 PM *Subject:* Re: False positive and negative? At 06:39 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote: BOY do you need a new VETand learn to do fluids at home, we can all help and there is a pharmacy on line where you can get what you need once you become comfortable and I CANT IMAGINE a vet with holding treatment! Congratulations for using your own brain and boy would I be telling that vet off!!! Kelly I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative, positive, negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are the tests errored? My beloved Nebs was diagnosed two weeks ago just after his fourth birthday. I took him to the vet with a very bad case of the runs and no appetite. The vet, one I had not been to before, told me Nebs was felv positive and would be dead in a matter of days. He told me his kidneys were huge and the virus had destroyed them. He recommended that I put him down right away. I couldn't do it. He was too special and deserved a chance. He told me nothing would help. I asked him to do what another vet had done for another cat once, an injection of fluids for dehydration. He gave him that, but refused any medication, saying it wouldn't do any good. The next day, I begged him for some antibiotics and he gave me them but told me not to get my hopes up. I gave Nebs the medicine, and some Pet-tonic. The next day he was eating again. In two days, he was eating like a hog. In 3 days, his runs were gone. It's now been 2 weeks, and instead of being dead as the doctor predicted, he's practically back to normal! He's gained almost all his weight back and has his swagger again. His third eyelid, present for almost a year, is also gone. His stools are more normal than they've been in ages. I am wondering if maybe he'd had a severe kidney and intestional infection, and when that was cleared up, he was all right. I don't know if he's really felv positive or not, I'll get him retested at another vet soon, but even if he has it, his immune system was not as 'shot' as the vet said it was. So my questions are, are the tests sometimes wrong, and can a cat go in and out of good health while being infected? I had always heard the first sickness would basically be the last. I also want to say, please do not give up on your kitty if the vet says to put him down, he's going to die. You know your pet better than anyone, and if you feel he isn't at his end, don't do it. I am so glad I gave Nebs another chance when the vet didn't. The fish are biting. Get more visitorshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49679/*http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php?o=US2140cmp=Yahooctv=Q107Taglines=Ys2=EMb=50on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49679/*http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php?o=US2140cmp=Yahooctv=Q107Taglines=Ys2=EMb=50 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Fluids at home
*Found it! ** http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick*http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick *** http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick*http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick * **Leslie =^..^= * On 3/7/07, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Someone had posted a clothes-pin trick... does anyone have that link still?! Sounds like this would do the trick for this little one...* *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/7/07, Del H. Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Years ago I gave my Felipe fluids/sub-Q at home and he just sat there, no problem.* *PLEASE tell me what I can do to keep a jumpy fellow cooperative. I can't go back to the vet every day where he/Malachi, 18#, lays quite sweetly for the tech. This is the third day I have failed, confidence in myself is history. Sent hubby out for chocolate to sooth my wounded ego. Malachi is generally an easy-going guy. Any and all tips would be greatly appreciated. I have two CRF who will be needing sub-q soon, too. * ** *Del* - Original Message - *From:* Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:45 PM *Subject:* Re: False positive and negative? At 06:39 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote: BOY do you need a new VETand learn to do fluids at home, we can all help and there is a pharmacy on line where you can get what you need once you become comfortable and I CANT IMAGINE a vet with holding treatment! Congratulations for using your own brain and boy would I be telling that vet off!!! Kelly I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative, positive, negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are the tests errored? My beloved Nebs was diagnosed two weeks ago just after his fourth birthday. I took him to the vet with a very bad case of the runs and no appetite. The vet, one I had not been to before, told me Nebs was felv positive and would be dead in a matter of days. He told me his kidneys were huge and the virus had destroyed them. He recommended that I put him down right away. I couldn't do it. He was too special and deserved a chance. He told me nothing would help. I asked him to do what another vet had done for another cat once, an injection of fluids for dehydration. He gave him that, but refused any medication, saying it wouldn't do any good. The next day, I begged him for some antibiotics and he gave me them but told me not to get my hopes up. I gave Nebs the medicine, and some Pet-tonic. The next day he was eating again. In two days, he was eating like a hog. In 3 days, his runs were gone. It's now been 2 weeks, and instead of being dead as the doctor predicted, he's practically back to normal! He's gained almost all his weight back and has his swagger again. His third eyelid, present for almost a year, is also gone. His stools are more normal than they've been in ages. I am wondering if maybe he'd had a severe kidney and intestional infection, and when that was cleared up, he was all right. I don't know if he's really felv positive or not, I'll get him retested at another vet soon, but even if he has it, his immune system was not as 'shot' as the vet said it was. So my questions are, are the tests sometimes wrong, and can a cat go in and out of good health while being infected? I had always heard the first sickness would basically be the last. I also want to say, please do not give up on your kitty if the vet says to put him down, he's going to die. You know your pet better than anyone, and if you feel he isn't at his end, don't do it. I am so glad I gave Nebs another chance when the vet didn't. The fish are biting. Get more visitorshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49679/*http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php?o=US2140cmp=Yahooctv=Q107Taglines=Ys2=EMb=50on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49679/*http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php?o=US2140cmp=Yahooctv=Q107Taglines=Ys2=EMb=50 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Fluids at home
Thank you Leslie :) Lots of info there for me. Del - Original Message - From: Leslie Lawther To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Fluids at home Found it! http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick Leslie =^..^= On 3/7/07, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone had posted a clothes-pin trick... does anyone have that link still?! Sounds like this would do the trick for this little one... Leslie =^..^= On 3/7/07, Del H. Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Years ago I gave my Felipe fluids/sub-Q at home and he just sat there, no problem. PLEASE tell me what I can do to keep a jumpy fellow cooperative. I can't go back to the vet every day where he/Malachi, 18#, lays quite sweetly for the tech. This is the third day I have failed, confidence in myself is history. Sent hubby out for chocolate to sooth my wounded ego. Malachi is generally an easy-going guy. Any and all tips would be greatly appreciated. I have two CRF who will be needing sub-q soon, too. Del - Original Message - From: Kelly L To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:45 PM Subject: Re: False positive and negative? At 06:39 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote: BOY do you need a new VETand learn to do fluids at home, we can all help and there is a pharmacy on line where you can get what you need once you become comfortable and I CANT IMAGINE a vet with holding treatment! Congratulations for using your own brain and boy would I be telling that vet off!!! Kelly I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative, positive, negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are the tests errored? My beloved Nebs was diagnosed two weeks ago just after his fourth birthday. I took him to the vet with a very bad case of the runs and no appetite. The vet, one I had not been to before, told me Nebs was felv positive and would be dead in a matter of days. He told me his kidneys were huge and the virus had destroyed them. He recommended that I put him down right away. I couldn't do it. He was too special and deserved a chance. He told me nothing would help. I asked him to do what another vet had done for another cat once, an injection of fluids for dehydration. He gave him that, but refused any medication, saying it wouldn't do any good. The next day, I begged him for some antibiotics and he gave me them but told me not to get my hopes up. I gave Nebs the medicine, and some Pet-tonic. The next day he was eating again. In two days, he was eating like a hog. In 3 days, his runs were gone. It's now been 2 weeks, and instead of being dead as the doctor predicted, he's practically back to normal! He's gained almost all his weight back and has his swagger again. His third eyelid, present for almost a year, is also gone. His stools are more normal than they've been in ages. I am wondering if maybe he'd had a severe kidney and intestional infection, and when that was cleared up, he was all right. I don't know if he's really felv positive or not, I'll get him retested at another vet soon, but even if he has it, his immune system was not as 'shot' as the vet said it was. So my questions are, are the tests sometimes wrong, and can a cat go in and out of good health while being infected? I had always heard the first sickness would basically be the last. I also want to say, please do not give up on your kitty if the vet says to put him down, he's going to die. You know your pet better than anyone, and if you feel he isn't at his end, don't do it. I am so glad I gave Nebs another chance when the vet didn't. The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Fluids at home
*You're very welcome! I dismissed it when I first saw it... until I saw someone else that tried it and said (much to my surprise) that it worked! So I bookmarked it... Good luck! And let us know if it does work!!* *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/7/07, Del H. Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Thank you Leslie :) Lots of info there for me.* ** *Del* - Original Message - *From:* Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:45 PM *Subject:* Re: Fluids at home *Found it! ** http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick *http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick+ *** http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick * http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick+* **Leslie =^..^= * On 3/7/07, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Someone had posted a clothes-pin trick... does anyone have that link still?! Sounds like this would do the trick for this little one...* *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/7/07, Del H. Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Years ago I gave my Felipe fluids/sub-Q at home and he just sat there, no problem.* *PLEASE tell me what I can do to keep a jumpy fellow cooperative. I can't go back to the vet every day where he/Malachi, 18#, lays quite sweetly for the tech. This is the third day I have failed, confidence in myself is history. Sent hubby out for chocolate to sooth my wounded ego. Malachi is generally an easy-going guy. Any and all tips would be greatly appreciated. I have two CRF who will be needing sub-q soon, too. * ** *Del* - Original Message - *From:* Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:45 PM *Subject:* Re: False positive and negative? At 06:39 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote: BOY do you need a new VETand learn to do fluids at home, we can all help and there is a pharmacy on line where you can get what you need once you become comfortable and I CANT IMAGINE a vet with holding treatment! Congratulations for using your own brain and boy would I be telling that vet off!!! Kelly I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative, positive, negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are the tests errored? My beloved Nebs was diagnosed two weeks ago just after his fourth birthday. I took him to the vet with a very bad case of the runs and no appetite. The vet, one I had not been to before, told me Nebs was felv positive and would be dead in a matter of days. He told me his kidneys were huge and the virus had destroyed them. He recommended that I put him down right away. I couldn't do it. He was too special and deserved a chance. He told me nothing would help. I asked him to do what another vet had done for another cat once, an injection of fluids for dehydration. He gave him that, but refused any medication, saying it wouldn't do any good. The next day, I begged him for some antibiotics and he gave me them but told me not to get my hopes up. I gave Nebs the medicine, and some Pet-tonic. The next day he was eating again. In two days, he was eating like a hog. In 3 days, his runs were gone. It's now been 2 weeks, and instead of being dead as the doctor predicted, he's practically back to normal! He's gained almost all his weight back and has his swagger again. His third eyelid, present for almost a year, is also gone. His stools are more normal than they've been in ages. I am wondering if maybe he'd had a severe kidney and intestional infection, and when that was cleared up, he was all right. I don't know if he's really felv positive or not, I'll get him retested at another vet soon, but even if he has it, his immune system was not as 'shot' as the vet said it was. So my questions are, are the tests sometimes wrong, and can a cat go in and out of good health while being infected? I had always heard the first sickness would basically be the last. I also want to say, please do not give up on your kitty if the vet says to put him down, he's going to die. You know your pet better than anyone, and if you feel he isn't at his end, don't do it. I am so glad I gave Nebs another chance when the vet didn't. The fish are biting. Get more visitorshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49679/*http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php?o=US2140cmp=Yahooctv=Q107Taglines=Ys2=EMb=50on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49679/*http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php?o=US2140cmp=Yahooctv=Q107Taglines=Ys2=EMb=50 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy
Re: Fluids at home
Hi Leslie Del, That was me, here is the link to my original message, basically you just put anywhere from 2 to 5 or 6 clothes pins on the scruff of the neck. Fred still tried biting, but he couldn't reach me with them on. He's very good now, only needed to do that for a week or so. http://www.mail-archive.com/felvtalk@felineleukemia.org/msg24339.html -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Fluids at home
Thanks for posting that Leslie, I couldn't find my bookmarked link. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
