Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations
No, because I haven't tried to mix it yet. I did get some of the Missing Link, the Professional Strength, which has Spirulina in it. (This formula says it detoxifies). Must have quite a bit because the powder is green. The instruction say 3/4 teaspoon per cat. I am startign them off w/ 1/8 so that the taste does not bother them. I take 2 cans of moist food @ 3.oz or 1 @ 5.5 for 4 cats. I divide into 4 little single serving bowls (World Market has lots of chioces and sometimes the Dollar Stores). I put a pinch of Lysine, then the Missing Link, stir in. I also take the little empty cans and fill one half full w/ water, swirl around so to get all of the juice, divide into their food. Kitties like juice, It makes a gravey. They cannot get too much water, of course. I will ask around through, about just the Spiulina dosage for you. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 11:02 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations Susan, do you have any idea of the dose of spirulina? Thanks from me 'n' the kitties Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Jul 6, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Susan Dubose wrote: Laura, I was @ my vet this morning, so I went ahead and picked up a package of Missiing Link. I have been meaning to try it on my felv+ gang, as well as work it into my other group of kitties eventually. Right now the nonfelv cats just get the brewer's yeast sprinkled on top of their dry food, which again is the Evo mixed w/ Core. Ok, both formulas say veterinary formula on the package. One package is gold, while the professional strength is on a silver package. The professional strength says it is for Recovery Detoxification. This is only available @ the vet's. I didn't have time @ the vet office to compare both packages to see what the ingredient difference was. But listed they have probiotics, carrot alfalfa powder, yeast, freeze dried beef liver, kelp, dandalion root, garlic, yucca as well as spirulina. I am interested most in the spirulina, I take that and I believe it helps me. A friend of mine had a felv+ cat that she gave spirulina to years ago, and the vet was amazed that he threw the virus. Hard to tell if he was just one of those cats that does, or if the spirulina actually helped. Another friend had a kitty that ate some of the bad pouch Nutro food that was going around, and went into renal failure @ the age of 3 years. He recovered after 2 weeks @ the vet and lots of sub Q's helped, but she also mixed up a batch of spirulina and some other things for him to get. She gave it to him orally, it was a liquid. Not sure how he is doing, I need to call her and see what it is that she was giving him. I paid $21. for one pound of supplement,must be kept in the fridge after opening use within 90 days. I will let you know if I see any difference in my felv+ cats, which as of now (knock on wood) are not symptomatic. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations Susan, great idea. I will check into itthanks for this suggestion, Laurie
Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations
Susan, do you have any idea of the dose of spirulina? Thanks from me 'n' the kitties Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Jul 6, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Susan Dubose wrote: Laura, I was @ my vet this morning, so I went ahead and picked up a package of Missiing Link. I have been meaning to try it on my felv+ gang, as well as work it into my other group of kitties eventually. Right now the nonfelv cats just get the brewer's yeast sprinkled on top of their dry food, which again is the Evo mixed w/ Core. Ok, both formulas say veterinary formula on the package. One package is gold, while the professional strength is on a silver package. The professional strength says it is for Recovery Detoxification. This is only available @ the vet's. I didn't have time @ the vet office to compare both packages to see what the ingredient difference was. But listed they have probiotics, carrot alfalfa powder, yeast, freeze dried beef liver, kelp, dandalion root, garlic, yucca as well as spirulina. I am interested most in the spirulina, I take that and I believe it helps me. A friend of mine had a felv+ cat that she gave spirulina to years ago, and the vet was amazed that he threw the virus. Hard to tell if he was just one of those cats that does, or if the spirulina actually helped. Another friend had a kitty that ate some of the bad pouch Nutro food that was going around, and went into renal failure @ the age of 3 years. He recovered after 2 weeks @ the vet and lots of sub Q's helped, but she also mixed up a batch of spirulina and some other things for him to get. She gave it to him orally, it was a liquid. Not sure how he is doing, I need to call her and see what it is that she was giving him. I paid $21. for one pound of supplement,must be kept in the fridge after opening use within 90 days. I will let you know if I see any difference in my felv+ cats, which as of now (knock on wood) are not symptomatic. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations Susan, great idea. I will check into itthanks for this suggestion, Laurie
Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations
Susan, great idea. I will check into itthanks for this suggestion, Laurie - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations Hi Laura! You might also try the Missing Link food supplement powder. You can purchase it through Drs. Foster Smith, and soem other animal supply websites. OR, the veterinary formula is even better, which I believe, you have to get through a vet. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations Isabella is doing well on the prednisone. She is again purring and kneading and following Lisa around. The hemobartonella test came back negative. Here is an email from a homeopathic vet/friend. I hope others can find some helpful suggestions here Laurie Hi Laurie. This little girl is very sick. I know you probably know this but as a general rule once a FeLV-positive cat gets sick they generally do not return to a normal state of health again. And this cat is sick - her bloodwork is horrible. It looks like your vet is doing everything possible to boost her immune system and get her fever to abate. Prednisone will possibly keep her comfortable for awhile - (which probably should become the primary goal). If Isabella feels better on the prednisone then I would keep her on it. I think doxycycline is probably worth trying - it can cause anorexia but my experience with it has been good (if the medicine is given with water and dosed correctly). It would not hurt to start giving her some supplements in her food - antioxidants and such. A good supplement would be Vitamin C (250mg daily in food). I would also start adding a little plain yoghurt nutritional (torula) yeast (great source of Vitamin B) to the food. Vitamin B helps stimulate appetite in addition to many other great things.If Isabella is not already on a home-made or high quality food (Wellness, Solid Gold, Newman's Own, etc) I would immediately put her on such a diet. I would recommend feeding her the canned form instead of dry food. And I would do whatever is possible to keep her life stress-free.
Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations
Laura, I was @ my vet this morning, so I went ahead and picked up a package of Missiing Link. I have been meaning to try it on my felv+ gang, as well as work it into my other group of kitties eventually. Right now the nonfelv cats just get the brewer's yeast sprinkled on top of their dry food, which again is the Evo mixed w/ Core. Ok, both formulas say veterinary formula on the package. One package is gold, while the professional strength is on a silver package. The professional strength says it is for Recovery Detoxification. This is only available @ the vet's. I didn't have time @ the vet office to compare both packages to see what the ingredient difference was. But listed they have probiotics, carrot alfalfa powder, yeast, freeze dried beef liver, kelp, dandalion root, garlic, yucca as well as spirulina. I am interested most in the spirulina, I take that and I believe it helps me. A friend of mine had a felv+ cat that she gave spirulina to years ago, and the vet was amazed that he threw the virus. Hard to tell if he was just one of those cats that does, or if the spirulina actually helped. Another friend had a kitty that ate some of the bad pouch Nutro food that was going around, and went into renal failure @ the age of 3 years. He recovered after 2 weeks @ the vet and lots of sub Q's helped, but she also mixed up a batch of spirulina and some other things for him to get. She gave it to him orally, it was a liquid. Not sure how he is doing, I need to call her and see what it is that she was giving him. I paid $21. for one pound of supplement,must be kept in the fridge after opening use within 90 days. I will let you know if I see any difference in my felv+ cats, which as of now (knock on wood) are not symptomatic. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations Susan, great idea. I will check into itthanks for this suggestion, Laurie
Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations
Thanks Susan. I offered Missing Link a number of years ago after we visited a holistic vet 2 hours away. Mine all refused it. I wonder about the garlic in it...know I've seen garlic can be toxic to cats. I will check out the internet for Missing Link as well as the feline Transfer Factor we are currently using to see if they have similar ingredients. If not, Ill ask my vet to order ML. Has anyone tried PolyMVA? I used that for another cat a long time ago. We were too late to help him. It has colostrum in it and is used by humans and animals who have cancer. Thanks for your interest in Isabella. I will let you know what I find out. Thanks! Laurie - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations Laura, I was @ my vet this morning, so I went ahead and picked up a package of Missiing Link. I have been meaning to try it on my felv+ gang, as well as work it into my other group of kitties eventually. Right now the nonfelv cats just get the brewer's yeast sprinkled on top of their dry food, which again is the Evo mixed w/ Core. Ok, both formulas say veterinary formula on the package. One package is gold, while the professional strength is on a silver package. The professional strength says it is for Recovery Detoxification. This is only available @ the vet's. I didn't have time @ the vet office to compare both packages to see what the ingredient difference was. But listed they have probiotics, carrot alfalfa powder, yeast, freeze dried beef liver, kelp, dandalion root, garlic, yucca as well as spirulina. I am interested most in the spirulina, I take that and I believe it helps me. A friend of mine had a felv+ cat that she gave spirulina to years ago, and the vet was amazed that he threw the virus. Hard to tell if he was just one of those cats that does, or if the spirulina actually helped. Another friend had a kitty that ate some of the bad pouch Nutro food that was going around, and went into renal failure @ the age of 3 years. He recovered after 2 weeks @ the vet and lots of sub Q's helped, but she also mixed up a batch of spirulina and some other things for him to get. She gave it to him orally, it was a liquid. Not sure how he is doing, I need to call her and see what it is that she was giving him. I paid $21. for one pound of supplement,must be kept in the fridge after opening use within 90 days. I will let you know if I see any difference in my felv+ cats, which as of now (knock on wood) are not symptomatic. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations Susan, great idea. I will check into itthanks for this suggestion, Laurie
Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations
Yes, please keep us posted. As far as the Missing Link, the quanity of garlic must be pretty small, or they wouldn't put it in the formula. But cats do either like it or they turn their furry little noses up Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations Thanks Susan. I offered Missing Link a number of years ago after we visited a holistic vet 2 hours away. Mine all refused it. I wonder about the garlic in it...know I've seen garlic can be toxic to cats. I will check out the internet for Missing Link as well as the feline Transfer Factor we are currently using to see if they have similar ingredients. If not, Ill ask my vet to order ML. Has anyone tried PolyMVA? I used that for another cat a long time ago. We were too late to help him. It has colostrum in it and is used by humans and animals who have cancer. Thanks for your interest in Isabella. I will let you know what I find out. Thanks! Laurie - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations Laura, I was @ my vet this morning, so I went ahead and picked up a package of Missiing Link. I have been meaning to try it on my felv+ gang, as well as work it into my other group of kitties eventually. Right now the nonfelv cats just get the brewer's yeast sprinkled on top of their dry food, which again is the Evo mixed w/ Core. Ok, both formulas say veterinary formula on the package. One package is gold, while the professional strength is on a silver package. The professional strength says it is for Recovery Detoxification. This is only available @ the vet's. I didn't have time @ the vet office to compare both packages to see what the ingredient difference was. But listed they have probiotics, carrot alfalfa powder, yeast, freeze dried beef liver, kelp, dandalion root, garlic, yucca as well as spirulina. I am interested most in the spirulina, I take that and I believe it helps me. A friend of mine had a felv+ cat that she gave spirulina to years ago, and the vet was amazed that he threw the virus. Hard to tell if he was just one of those cats that does, or if the spirulina actually helped. Another friend had a kitty that ate some of the bad pouch Nutro food that was going around, and went into renal failure @ the age of 3 years. He recovered after 2 weeks @ the vet and lots of sub Q's helped, but she also mixed up a batch of spirulina and some other things for him to get. She gave it to him orally, it was a liquid. Not sure how he is doing, I need to call her and see what it is that she was giving him. I paid $21. for one pound of supplement,must be kept in the fridge after opening use within 90 days. I will let you know if I see any difference in my felv+ cats, which as of now (knock on wood) are not symptomatic. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations Susan, great idea. I will check into itthanks for this suggestion, Laurie
Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations
Isabella is doing well on the prednisone. She is again purring and kneading and following Lisa around. The hemobartonella test came back negative. Here is an email from a homeopathic vet/friend. I hope others can find some helpful suggestions here Laurie Hi Laurie. This little girl is very sick. I know you probably know this but as a general rule once a FeLV-positive cat gets sick they generally do not return to a normal state of health again. And this cat is sick - her bloodwork is horrible. It looks like your vet is doing everything possible to boost her immune system and get her fever to abate. Prednisone will possibly keep her comfortable for awhile - (which probably should become the primary goal). If Isabella feels better on the prednisone then I would keep her on it. I think doxycycline is probably worth trying - it can cause anorexia but my experience with it has been good (if the medicine is given with water and dosed correctly). It would not hurt to start giving her some supplements in her food - antioxidants and such. A good supplement would be Vitamin C (250mg daily in food). I would also start adding a little plain yoghurt nutritional (torula) yeast (great source of Vitamin B) to the food. Vitamin B helps stimulate appetite in addition to many other great things.If Isabella is not already on a home-made or high quality food (Wellness, Solid Gold, Newman's Own, etc) I would immediately put her on such a diet. I would recommend feeding her the canned form instead of dry food. And I would do whatever is possible to keep her life stress-free.
Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations
Hi Laura! You might also try the Missing Link food supplement powder. You can purchase it through Drs. Foster Smith, and soem other animal supply websites. OR, the veterinary formula is even better, which I believe, you have to get through a vet. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations Isabella is doing well on the prednisone. She is again purring and kneading and following Lisa around. The hemobartonella test came back negative. Here is an email from a homeopathic vet/friend. I hope others can find some helpful suggestions here Laurie Hi Laurie. This little girl is very sick. I know you probably know this but as a general rule once a FeLV-positive cat gets sick they generally do not return to a normal state of health again. And this cat is sick - her bloodwork is horrible. It looks like your vet is doing everything possible to boost her immune system and get her fever to abate. Prednisone will possibly keep her comfortable for awhile - (which probably should become the primary goal). If Isabella feels better on the prednisone then I would keep her on it. I think doxycycline is probably worth trying - it can cause anorexia but my experience with it has been good (if the medicine is given with water and dosed correctly). It would not hurt to start giving her some supplements in her food - antioxidants and such. A good supplement would be Vitamin C (250mg daily in food). I would also start adding a little plain yoghurt nutritional (torula) yeast (great source of Vitamin B) to the food. Vitamin B helps stimulate appetite in addition to many other great things.If Isabella is not already on a home-made or high quality food (Wellness, Solid Gold, Newman's Own, etc) I would immediately put her on such a diet. I would recommend feeding her the canned form instead of dry food. And I would do whatever is possible to keep her life stress-free.
