Re: Success with Rescue Cat- cat jackets
I must have missed some posts because I don't understand how these 'jackets' work tonya Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well done, Caroline. You and your mother must be both saddened and relieved at once. I'm sure you will miss her, but knowing that she is going home to a place where she is loved is a consolation. For 2 to 3 cat households, jackets are a great way to allow cats outdoors to roam around with relative safety. It really has changed all our lives. MeMe can spend hours on end hunting bugs or watching the bird bath and I no longer have the guilt of keeping her in, or the anxiety of worrying about where she is. She goes in and out a dozen times a day. I've begun putting her coat on in the morning and taking it off at night. On Aug 22, 2007, at 4:12 PM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: No, I don't think they have the animal cruelty issue like we do. You have to remember that England's version of police officers don't even carry guns!!! Because they so rarely have any violent crime! An animal cruelty is a violent crime. I have always taken all my cats out on leashes, and now, harnesses. And I moved to the house I live in now a year ago, pretty much for Monkee. So that he could have a front, screened in and enclosed porch...which he worshiped. I moved there last August, not knowing that it would be the last year of his life, and that come Aug. 2007, he'd be gone. But I know for a fact that last year of his life was his happiest because he LOVED that porch more than anything! I hope to eventually always have a similar (but bigger) screened and enclosed porch for all the kitties I will someday have. They get the best of both worlds that way! -Caroline - From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Success with Rescue Cat Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:58:49 -0500 Yes, and for some reason, I am thinking that they do not have the animal cruelty problem there that we have here. I could be wrong. My cats actually seem healthier since they have access to the fresh air. No matter what the weather is like, they are out there. At night, of course, they have to sleep on top of me. Ever guarding the food source:) Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Success with Rescue Cat Susan, I noticed that about England on a British cat chat site that I was once a member of. But they all had backyards that were very small with fences and very interesting tops to the fences that kept the cats from crawling over. I hope someday to have a nice cat enclosure, but I could never have a fenced in yard. Our yard is much too bigplus we like our neighbors and dont want to fence them out! J But, I do sometimes feel cruel not letting the kitties out. I know theyd love to run around and roll around in the grass. This will remind me to keep saving for an enclosure! Melissa - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Success with Rescue Cat - Messenger Café open for fun 24/7. Hot games, cool activities served daily. Visit now.
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Caroline, I'm so happy for you! Yes, I'm sure another will turn up. That's what always happens right? I totally forgot about the reverse look-up feature. Good work! Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Success with Rescue Cat Okay, since there's been lots of debate and dare I say, controversy, over the Malnourished Rescue Cat my mom and I took in and have been caring for, I wanted everyone to know that she is GOING HOME and we have successfully reunited her with her family. Long story short, we pretty much took EVERYONE'S advice and tried a variety of tactics (as I previously mentioned-- signs posted, I posted on websites, etc.). As I had mentioned, from the Rabies tag, all we were able to obtain is the telephone number and street name (not number) of the owner and the name of the cat- Nosey. My mom and I pretty much sat on it for a while since by then, we'd already taken her to the Vet and started her on Clavamox and she needed so much rehabilitation anyway. We tried to decide what to do and we just hated the idea of totally cold call to this number...not knowing ANYTHING about the person and whether they were a good owner. We are almost finished with the Clavamox and have finished one tube of Terramycin and Nosey is still exhibiting Upper Respiratory Infection symptoms, thus my mom said we have to either: 1) take her back to the vet this week, as needs more care, or 2) call the owners and make sure they take her to the vet. Since I had the owner phone number, I FINALLY remembered that the Whitepages.com has this handy tab where you can do a reverse look-up- using the phone number...it will give you a name and address. Bingo! I got the street address we'd been wanting, which also provided me with the NAMES of the two people living there So, then I of course googled their names...and low and behold, one of them is a Partner at a law firm here and of course, my mouth dropped open (I am a lawyer too- and although this is a big city, it's a SMALL legal community), thus I knew I had to contact her at that point. I also knew she could definitely afford the vet bill Nosey incurred (they live on very rich street- I know that sounds weird, but the property value of the houses on that street is ridiculous). Anyway, I feel like the ultimate pet detective, seriously. Sometimes I think all I need in life is google and the white or yellowpages.com!!! My mom and I discussed it and I decided to send her an email at her firm's email address from my work email, so she would know where I work and that I am an attorney too. I took the initial vague route first (as was discussed on this list serve)...to feel her out, etc. She replied and said it's their cat and they looked for her for weeks and weeks, but didn't check online sites (which she apologized for) and asked when they could come get her. After another consult with my mom, my mom wanted me to send her another email where I socked it to her with the malnutrition, that she would have died if we hadn't taken her in, she went to the vet and this and that was done and the bill is this amount, we've been feeding her this that, she needs to go back to the vet because the URI is still lingering, I advise she go back and get this treatment (a full blood panel to check liver/kidney function, fecal for tapeworms, etc.). AND then I asked if she was outdoor/indoor cat and said if so, I recommend she NOT be an outdoor cat because she does not fair well outside, she has this URI that won't go away, and she's deathly afraid of storms and if she is out when one comes, she will run and hide. WHEW! All that. I also apologized for hitting her with all this at once and at work and admitted that I wanted to feel her out initially before I admitted that we had the cat in our house and have done intensive care/rehabbing. She responded really well!!! She gave me info about Nosey's background- they've had Nosey since birth and she lives with her Mother and Brother cats. They are mostly outside cats because they live on a large piece of property with a covered porch. She said the cats seldom go beyond the immediate neighbors (who love them), but the mother cat became an indoor cat a few years ago when she developed a URI!!! So, hopefully, now that poor Nosey has one that she can't seem to shake, they will make her an indoor cat now (which I did press upon her). She said they will compensate us for the care we did, thanked us, and said they will continue with further vet care for Nosey. We are going to try to connect tonight to do the hand-off. My mom and I both really happy that we've had a great result, but I have to admit that it took some detecting on my part, as we weren't going to turn this cat over to the great unknown! I will never know how Nosey got one mile
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Woo-hoo, Caroline! I'm so glad Nosey's owners have been located and checked out as good people. They will all be so happy! Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Success with Rescue Cat Okay, since there's been lots of debate and dare I say, controversy, over the Malnourished Rescue Cat my mom and I took in and have been caring for, I wanted everyone to know that she is GOING HOME and we have successfully reunited her with her family. Long story short, we pretty much took EVERYONE'S advice and tried a variety of tactics (as I previously mentioned-- signs posted, I posted on websites, etc.). As I had mentioned, from the Rabies tag, all we were able to obtain is the telephone number and street name (not number) of the owner and the name of the cat- Nosey. My mom and I pretty much sat on it for a while since by then, we'd already taken her to the Vet and started her on Clavamox and she needed so much rehabilitation anyway. We tried to decide what to do and we just hated the idea of totally cold call to this number...not knowing ANYTHING about the person and whether they were a good owner. We are almost finished with the Clavamox and have finished one tube of Terramycin and Nosey is still exhibiting Upper Respiratory Infection symptoms, thus my mom said we have to either: 1) take her back to the vet this week, as needs more care, or 2) call the owners and make sure they take her to the vet. Since I had the owner phone number, I FINALLY remembered that the Whitepages.com has this handy tab where you can do a reverse look-up- using the phone number...it will give you a name and address. Bingo! I got the street address we'd been wanting, which also provided me with the NAMES of the two people living there So, then I of course googled their names...and low and behold, one of them is a Partner at a law firm here and of course, my mouth dropped open (I am a lawyer too- and although this is a big city, it's a SMALL legal community), thus I knew I had to contact her at that point. I also knew she could definitely afford the vet bill Nosey incurred (they live on very rich street- I know that sounds weird, but the property value of the houses on that street is ridiculous). Anyway, I feel like the ultimate pet detective, seriously. Sometimes I think all I need in life is google and the white or yellowpages.com!!! My mom and I discussed it and I decided to send her an email at her firm's email address from my work email, so she would know where I work and that I am an attorney too. I took the initial vague route first (as was discussed on this list serve)...to feel her out, etc. She replied and said it's their cat and they looked for her for weeks and weeks, but didn't check online sites (which she apologized for) and asked when they could come get her. After another consult with my mom, my mom wanted me to send her another email where I socked it to her with the malnutrition, that she would have died if we hadn't taken her in, she went to the vet and this and that was done and the bill is this amount, we've been feeding her this that, she needs to go back to the vet because the URI is still lingering, I advise she go back and get this treatment (a full blood panel to check liver/kidney function, fecal for tapeworms, etc.). AND then I asked if she was outdoor/indoor cat and said if so, I recommend she NOT be an outdoor cat because she does not fair well outside, she has this URI that won't go away, and she's deathly afraid of storms and if she is out when one comes, she will run and hide. WHEW! All that. I also apologized for hitting her with all this at once and at work and admitted that I wanted to feel her out initially before I admitted that we had the cat in our house and have done intensive care/rehabbing. She responded really well!!! She gave me info about Nosey's background- they've had Nosey since birth and she lives with her Mother and Brother cats. They are mostly outside cats because they live on a large piece of property with a covered porch. She said the cats seldom go beyond the immediate neighbors (who love them), but the mother cat became an indoor cat a few years ago when she developed a URI!!! So, hopefully, now that poor Nosey has one that she can't seem to shake, they will make her an indoor cat now (which I did press upon her). She said they will compensate us for the care we did, thanked us, and said they will continue with further vet care for Nosey. We are going to try to connect tonight to do the hand-off. My mom and I both really happy that we've had a great result, but I have to admit that it took some detecting on my part, as we weren't going to turn this cat over to the great unknown! I will never know how Nosey got one mile away from her home, and in
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Susan, I noticed that about England on a British cat chat site that I was once a member of. But they all had backyards that were very small with fences and very interesting tops to the fences that kept the cats from crawling over. I hope someday to have a nice cat enclosure, but I could never have a fenced in yard. Our yard is much too big-plus we like our neighbors and don't want to fence them out! :-) But, I do sometimes feel cruel not letting the kitties out. I know they'd love to run around and roll around in the grass. This will remind me to keep saving for an enclosure! Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Success with Rescue Cat A, Caroline, you're GREAT! Good work,good work! They sound like good pet owners, and I bet they will keep her inside now. You HAVE to give people the benefit of the doubt. Heck, in England folks think it's cruel to make a cat stay inside 24/7. That's why I spent a small fortune this spring on a cat enclosure. Thanks for sharing! Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:49 PM Subject: OT: Success with Rescue Cat Okay, since there's been lots of debate and dare I say, controversy, over the Malnourished Rescue Cat my mom and I took in and have been caring for, I wanted everyone to know that she is GOING HOME and we have successfully reunited her with her family. Long story short, we pretty much took EVERYONE'S advice and tried a variety of tactics (as I previously mentioned-- signs posted, I posted on websites, etc.). As I had mentioned, from the Rabies tag, all we were able to obtain is the telephone number and street name (not number) of the owner and the name of the cat- Nosey. My mom and I pretty much sat on it for a while since by then, we'd already taken her to the Vet and started her on Clavamox and she needed so much rehabilitation anyway. We tried to decide what to do and we just hated the idea of totally cold call to this number...not knowing ANYTHING about the person and whether they were a good owner. We are almost finished with the Clavamox and have finished one tube of Terramycin and Nosey is still exhibiting Upper Respiratory Infection symptoms, thus my mom said we have to either: 1) take her back to the vet this week, as needs more care, or 2) call the owners and make sure they take her to the vet. Since I had the owner phone number, I FINALLY remembered that the Whitepages.com has this handy tab where you can do a reverse look-up- using the phone number...it will give you a name and address. Bingo! I got the street address we'd been wanting, which also provided me with the NAMES of the two people living there So, then I of course googled their names...and low and behold, one of them is a Partner at a law firm here and of course, my mouth dropped open (I am a lawyer too- and although this is a big city, it's a SMALL legal community), thus I knew I had to contact her at that point. I also knew she could definitely afford the vet bill Nosey incurred (they live on very rich street- I know that sounds weird, but the property value of the houses on that street is ridiculous). Anyway, I feel like the ultimate pet detective, seriously. Sometimes I think all I need in life is google and the white or yellowpages.com!!! My mom and I discussed it and I decided to send her an email at her firm's email address from my work email, so she would know where I work and that I am an attorney too. I took the initial vague route first (as was discussed on this list serve)...to feel her out, etc. She replied and said it's their cat and they looked for her for weeks and weeks, but didn't check online sites (which she apologized for) and asked when they could come get her. After another consult with my mom, my mom wanted me to send her another email where I socked it to her with the malnutrition, that she would have died if we hadn't taken her in, she went to the vet and this and that was done and the bill is this amount, we've been feeding her this that, she needs to go back to the vet because the URI is still lingering, I advise she go back and get this treatment (a full blood panel to check liver/kidney function, fecal for tapeworms, etc.). AND then I asked if she was outdoor/indoor cat
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I have a volunteer who lives in England. She says they do not declaw there at all, I believe it is against the law. She was also horrified to hear about the stray/feral cat situation and says they really don't have that in England. Now whether or not that is true and she's just not aware I do not know. On 8/22/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, and for some reason, I am thinking that they do not have the animal cruelty problem there that we have here. I could be wrong. My cats actually seem healthier since they have access to the fresh air. No matter what the weather is like, they are out there. At night, of course, they have to sleep on top of me. Ever guarding the food source:) Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Success with Rescue Cat Susan, I noticed that about England on a British cat chat site that I was once a member of. But they all had backyards that were very small with fences and very interesting tops to the fences that kept the cats from crawling over. I hope someday to have a nice cat enclosure, but I could never have a fenced in yard. Our yard is much too big—plus we like our neighbors and don't want to fence them out! J But, I do sometimes feel cruel not letting the kitties out. I know they'd love to run around and roll around in the grass. This will remind me to keep saving for an enclosure! Melissa From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Success with Rescue Cat -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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On Aug 22, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Marylyn wrote: Dixie has a 10 x 10 x 6 foot tall dog kennel (a shade topper is on the way) that ran about $200. If you buy the panels you can add on to the enclosure or reconfigure it as needed. Until you are very sure where the little darlings can sneak out you need to spend time with them there. Usually they can get under the door or where the door meets the bar. It is easy to fix these places but you have to know where they are and the cats will tell you if you listen and give them enough time. You may be able to find chain link panels/ kennels used or on sale. Dixie has not had hers very long but she likes it. Ebony and Mi Tu loved theirs. They had almost 24/7/365 access to it thru a pet door. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: Re: Success with Rescue Cat Yes, and for some reason, I am thinking that they do not have the animal cruelty problem there that we have here. I could be wrong. My cats actually seem healthier since they have access to the fresh air. No matter what the weather is like, they are out there. At night, of course, they have to sleep on top of me. Ever guarding the food source:) Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Success with Rescue Cat Susan, I noticed that about England on a British cat chat site that I was once a member of. But they all had backyards that were very small with fences and very interesting tops to the fences that kept the cats from crawling over. I hope someday to have a nice cat enclosure, but I could never have a fenced in yard. Our yard is much too big—plus we like our neighbors and don’t want to fence them out! J But, I do sometimes feel cruel not letting the kitties out. I know they’d love to run around and roll around in the grass. This will remind me to keep saving for an enclosure! Melissa From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:felvtalk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Success with Rescue Cat
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Well done, Caroline. You and your mother must be both saddened and relieved at once. I'm sure you will miss her, but knowing that she is going home to a place where she is loved is a consolation. For 2 to 3 cat households, jackets are a great way to allow cats outdoors to roam around with relative safety. It really has changed all our lives. MeMe can spend hours on end hunting bugs or watching the bird bath and I no longer have the guilt of keeping her in, or the anxiety of worrying about where she is. She goes in and out a dozen times a day. I've begun putting her coat on in the morning and taking it off at night. On Aug 22, 2007, at 4:12 PM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: No, I don't think they have the animal cruelty issue like we do. You have to remember that England's version of police officers don't even carry guns!!! Because they so rarely have any violent crime! An animal cruelty is a violent crime. I have always taken all my cats out on leashes, and now, harnesses. And I moved to the house I live in now a year ago, pretty much for Monkee. So that he could have a front, screened in and enclosed porch...which he worshiped. I moved there last August, not knowing that it would be the last year of his life, and that come Aug. 2007, he'd be gone. But I know for a fact that last year of his life was his happiest because he LOVED that porch more than anything! I hope to eventually always have a similar (but bigger) screened and enclosed porch for all the kitties I will someday have. They get the best of both worlds that way! -Caroline From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Success with Rescue Cat Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:58:49 -0500 Yes, and for some reason, I am thinking that they do not have the animal cruelty problem there that we have here. I could be wrong. My cats actually seem healthier since they have access to the fresh air. No matter what the weather is like, they are out there. At night, of course, they have to sleep on top of me. Ever guarding the food source:) Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Success with Rescue Cat Susan, I noticed that about England on a British cat chat site that I was once a member of. But they all had backyards that were very small with fences and very interesting tops to the fences that kept the cats from crawling over. I hope someday to have a nice cat enclosure, but I could never have a fenced in yard. Our yard is much too big—plus we like our neighbors and don’t want to fence them out! J But, I do sometimes feel cruel not letting the kitties out. I know they’d love to run around and roll around in the grass. This will remind me to keep saving for an enclosure! Melissa From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:felvtalk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Success with Rescue Cat Messenger Café — open for fun 24/7. Hot games, cool activities served daily. Visit now.