Re: detailed video of seizure -- for Michael
How do I unsubscribe from this Merry-Go-Round? I'm sick of reading about you people slapping at each other. - Original Message From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 4:59:20 PM Subject: RE: detailed video of seizure -- for Michael Ditto from me. Belinda has said nothing inflammatory. Susan takes care of that. tonya "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not going to get involved in the Kelley situation---enough people are involved as it is. But, Michael, you need to know that you are so, so wrong to say what you do about Belinda. You couldn't be more wrong. Having read numerous of Belinda's posts over the years I have nothing but enormous respect for her and her knowledge of caring for cats and leukemia cats in particular. I was one FeLV newbie who was hugely grateful in the early days, when I knew nothing about the disease, that she belongs to this list. But she doesn't just "belong": For me, two facts in particular demonstrate her commitment: One, Belinda is a co-founder of this group (which for many years was the most wonderfully supportive and generous list anyone could hope to belong to -- it's been very sad and quite remarkable to see what just one person's ill-conceived remarks can do to start the ball rolling in the opposite direction. The group is a shambles now; I won't disagree with that). Two, Belinda initiated and maintains the Candlelight Service. When 4 of my FeLV cats succumbed over time to the disease, being able to memorialize them on the list was the most wonderful comfort (and still is). I have Belinda to thank for that, as many of us do. Kerry M. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: detailed video of seizure You know, I'm going to try and breathe and count to ten before I respond to this post. Actually, no, I don't think I will. I posted an emotionally neutral, nonspecific post in response to that rubbish you've been spouting off, and you attack me. Prepare thyself for my response. You, and a couple of others on this list, seem to try and bully everyone else into thinking the way you do. I don't think you have the cat's best interest at heart. I think you have your "clique" in your sights, the people you like for whatever reason, and the hell with everything else, including the facts. Does this group not have a moderator? I assure you, as small as my group is, this kind of thing is not and would not be tolerated. You have been so negative. Both here and on other lists we are both on. I don't get it. I don't understand how this type of behavior is benefitting you. What do you get out of it? How the hell is it so easy to look over the fact that a judge agreed with animal control on the situation? Contrary to what you want to believe, I seriously doubt animal control had a vendetta against Kelly. Or anyone else for thatmatter. I don't know who the hell you think you are, but let me state very clearly for you I don't personlly care what you, or anyone else on this list who defends that type of hoarding, says or thinks about me. My *only* concern is for the safety, health and welfare of ALL of God's little creatures...what you think of me for that is of no consequence to me. Quite frankly, you're just not important enough to matter. How dare you call *me* naive? What's funny to me is you choose to be so damn conspiracy theorist as to say "the judge is corrupt, animal control is corrupt, the news is corrupt, they're all out to get poor little Kelly" Jesus, Lady. What kind of world are you living! in? You can stand by whatever you want to. I hope that email you sent to Jim gets some attention, indeed, because I absolutely will be unsubscribing after this. I don't need to have to listen to people like you. I have enough of a real life and real issues to deal with without putting up with this insanity. It is NOT ok for someone to use this group as a fundraising campaign, and then have two (all I've seen so far is two, that should tell you something) people defending her and trying to crush any opposing viewpoint. You think that shows maturity to email the list owner and ask on a public forum for someone to be removed because you don't like them? I'll copy the list owner as well, just so I'll feel important and special too. You can believe whoever you want and whatever you want, but so far the evidence has been provided by animal control and not Kelly (at least I haven't seen any pictures of a clean house either, have you?) I don't know Sheila, or Susan personally, but I know Sheila
RE: detailed video of seizure -- for Michael
Ditto from me. Belinda has said nothing inflammatory. Susan takes care of that. tonya "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not going to get involved in the Kelley situation---enough people are involved as it is. But, Michael, you need to know that you are so, so wrong to say what you do about Belinda. You couldn't be more wrong. Having read numerous of Belinda's posts over the years I have nothing but enormous respect for her and her knowledge of caring for cats and leukemia cats in particular. I was one FeLV newbie who was hugely grateful in the early days, when I knew nothing about the disease, that she belongs to this list. But she doesn't just "belong": For me, two facts in particular demonstrate her commitment: One, Belinda is a co-founder of this group (which for many years was the most wonderfully supportive and generous list anyone could hope to belong to -- it's been very sad and quite remarkable to see what just one person's ill-conceived remarks can do to start the ball rolling in the opposite direction. The group is a shambles now; I won't disagree with that). Two, Belinda initiated and maintains the Candlelight Service. When 4 of my FeLV cats succumbed over time to the disease, being able to memorialize them on the list was the most wonderful comfort (and still is). I have Belinda to thank for that, as many of us do. Kerry M. - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: detailed video of seizure You know, I'm going to try and breathe and count to ten before I respond to this post. Actually, no, I don't think I will. I posted an emotionally neutral, nonspecific post in response to that rubbish you've been spouting off, and you attack me. Prepare thyself for my response. You, and a couple of others on this list, seem to try and bully everyone else into thinking the way you do. I don't think you have the cat's best interest at heart. I think you have your "clique" in your sights, the people you like for whatever reason, and the hell with everything else, including the facts. Does this group not have a moderator? I assure you, as small as my group is, this kind of thing is not and would not be tolerated. You have been so negative. Both here and on other lists we are both on. I don't get it. I don't understand how this type of behavior is benefitting you. What do you get out of it? How the hell is it so easy to look over the fact that a judge agreed with animal control on the situation? Contrary to what you want to believe, I seriously doubt animal control had a vendetta against Kelly. Or anyone else for thatmatter. I don't know who the hell you think you are, but let me state very clearly for you I don't personlly care what you, or anyone else on this list who defends that type of hoarding, says or thinks about me. My *only* concern is for the safety, health and welfare of ALL of God's little creatures...what you think of me for that is of no consequence to me. Quite frankly, you're just not important enough to matter. How dare you call *me* naive? What's funny to me is you choose to be so damn conspiracy theorist as to say "the judge is corrupt, animal control is corrupt, the news is corrupt, they're all out to get poor little Kelly" Jesus, Lady. What kind of world are you living! in? You can stand by whatever you want to. I hope that email you sent to Jim gets some attention, indeed, because I absolutely will be unsubscribing after this. I don't need to have to listen to people like you. I have enough of a real life and real issues to deal with without putting up with this insanity. It is NOT ok for someone to use this group as a fundraising campaign, and then have two (all I've seen so far is two, that should tell you something) people defending her and trying to crush any opposing viewpoint. You think that shows maturity to email the list owner and ask on a public forum for someone to be removed because you don't like them? I'll copy the list owner as well, just so I'll feel important and special too. You can believe whoever you want and whatever you want, but so far the evidence has been provided by animal control and not Kelly (at least I haven't seen any pictures of a clean house either, have you?) I don't know Sheila, or Susan personally, but I know Sheila's sanctuary took in 15 of the cats. What have YOU Done to help the situation other than spout off? Ya know what, bottom line is there are too many other useful sources of information out there to put up with people like you who try to police a group (without ANY official standing whatsoever). I really do hope this group owner pays some attention to what's been going on, and sets some ground rules. I never once, not from the
RE: detailed video of seizure -- for Michael
I'm not going to get involved in the Kelley situation---enough people are involved as it is. But, Michael, you need to know that you are so, so wrong to say what you do about Belinda. You couldn't be more wrong. Having read numerous of Belinda's posts over the years I have nothing but enormous respect for her and her knowledge of caring for cats and leukemia cats in particular. I was one FeLV newbie who was hugely grateful in the early days, when I knew nothing about the disease, that she belongs to this list. But she doesn't just "belong": For me, two facts in particular demonstrate her commitment: One, Belinda is a co-founder of this group (which for many years was the most wonderfully supportive and generous list anyone could hope to belong to -- it's been very sad and quite remarkable to see what just one person's ill-conceived remarks can do to start the ball rolling in the opposite direction. The group is a shambles now; I won't disagree with that). Two, Belinda initiated and maintains the Candlelight Service. When 4 of my FeLV cats succumbed over time to the disease, being able to memorialize them on the list was the most wonderful comfort (and still is). I have Belinda to thank for that, as many of us do. Kerry M. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: detailed video of seizure You know, I'm going to try and breathe and count to ten before I respond to this post. Actually, no, I don't think I will. I posted an emotionally neutral, nonspecific post in response to that rubbish you've been spouting off, and you attack me. Prepare thyself for my response. You, and a couple of others on this list, seem to try and bully everyone else into thinking the way you do. I don't think you have the cat's best interest at heart. I think you have your "clique" in your sights, the people you like for whatever reason, and the hell with everything else, including the facts. Does this group not have a moderator? I assure you, as small as my group is, this kind of thing is not and would not be tolerated. You have been so negative. Both here and on other lists we are both on. I don't get it. I don't understand how this type of behavior is benefitting you. What do you get out of it? How the hell is it so easy to look over the fact that a judge agreed with animal control on the situation? Contrary to what you want to believe, I seriously doubt animal control had a vendetta against Kelly. Or anyone else for thatmatter. I don't know who the hell you think you are, but let me state very clearly for you I don't personlly care what you, or anyone else on this list who defends that type of hoarding, says or thinks about me. My *only* concern is for the safety, health and welfare of ALL of God's little creatures...what you think of me for that is of no consequence to me. Quite frankly, you're just not important enough to matter. How dare you call *me* naive? What's funny to me is you choose to be so damn conspiracy theorist as to say "the judge is corrupt, animal control is corrupt, the news is corrupt, they're all out to get poor little Kelly" Jesus, Lady. What kind of world are you living! in? You can stand by whatever you want to. I hope that email you sent to Jim gets some attention, indeed, because I absolutely will be unsubscribing after this. I don't need to have to listen to people like you. I have enough of a real life and real issues to deal with without putting up with this insanity. It is NOT ok for someone to use this group as a fundraising campaign, and then have two (all I've seen so far is two, that should tell you something) people defending her and trying to crush any opposing viewpoint. You think that shows maturity to email the list owner and ask on a public forum for someone to be removed because you don't like them? I'll copy the list owner as well, just so I'll feel important and special too. You can believe whoever you want and whatever you want, but so far the evidence has been provided by animal control and not Kelly (at least I haven't seen any pictures of a clean house either, have you?) I don't know Sheila, or Susan personally, but I know Sheila's sanctuary took in 15 of the cats. What have YOU Done to help the situation other than spout off? Ya know what, bottom line is there are too many other useful sources of information out there to put up with people like you who try to police a group (without ANY official standing whatsoever). I really do hope this group owner pays some attention to what's been going on, and sets some ground rules. I never once, not from the beginning, sided with anyone on this issue, but I am sick and tired of seeing people like Belinda continually attack people they don't agree with. Again, I'll close with this, anyone interested in joining another (very small) group that IS moderated
