Le 26 juillet 2025 23:14:08 GMT+03:00, Timo Rothenpieler
a écrit :
>> You do it once, decisively, with no point where it is both dev paths
>> simultaniously.
>> VideoLAN managed it, and countless companies and other projects have managed
>> it with
>> no overlap. Many of which I have experien
Rémi Denis-Courmont (HE12025-07-31):
> I (mostly) don't use Gmail because I value my privacy more than the
> convenience of GMail's web interface. But realistically, not everyone can
> afford to access an outbound MTA that:
> - supports SMTP,
> - allows sending email with a domain not tied to the
Le perjantaina 25. heinäkuuta 2025, 14.41.05 Itä-Euroopan kesäaika Nicolas
George a écrit :
> In short and imaged, I see you arguing that screws are too difficult to
> use and we should use twisted vines instead, but the real issue is that
> you are using a Playskool Plastic Tool Set instead of a
Kacper Michajlow (HE12025-07-27):
> I'm talking about ffmpeg specifically. ffmpeg is not a Linux kernel,
Nobody talked about the Linux kernel, I do not know what nonsense you
are spewing here.
But you do not seem tu realize that the best hackers in the project (not
you) have nothing to do with th
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 10:48 PM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
>
> Imagine people try to game this and we thus have more contributions and
> more reviewed, fewer unreviewed patches. That sounds like a good thing
> to me
>
> [...]
> Maybe iam just odd but i want to know if forgejo or the ML actually w
Hi Niklas
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 02:07:22PM +0200, Niklas Haas wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 01:04:34 +0200 Michael Niedermayer
> wrote:
> > The announcment should probably mention that performance, as in number of
> > submissions / percentage of applied / not reviewed patches will be
> > monito
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 at 11:39, Nicolas George wrote:
>
> Kacper Michajlow (HE12025-07-26):
> > I don't think moving over is something that requires significant
> > effort. It just needs clear communication about this.
> >
> > Also, I don't think the current ML workflow is very sophisticated on
> >
Niklas Haas (HE12025-07-27):
> The only thing that should
> matter is what the community *prefers* to use.
Provided it is weighted according to how much work each member of the
community does with it.
(And of course I am aware that means very little f
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 01:04:34 +0200 Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> The announcment should probably mention that performance, as in number of
> submissions / percentage of applied / not reviewed patches will be
> monitored compared to the mailing list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law
Timo Rothenpieler (HE12025-07-26):
> Here's an idea I had to make the transition a bit more rapid:
>
> - Retire git.videolan.org, make it a pure mirror nobody can push to (except
> the mirror script).
> - Make source.ffmpeg.org point to git.ffmpeg.org instead. This will cause
> host key mismatch
Kacper Michajlow (HE12025-07-26):
> I don't think moving over is something that requires significant
> effort. It just needs clear communication about this.
>
> Also, I don't think the current ML workflow is very sophisticated on
> ffmpeg-devel, so there are likely not many tools to migrate to the
On 7/27/2025 12:44 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Hi Timo
On Sat, Jul 26, 2025 at 10:41:57PM +0200, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
On 7/26/2025 10:24 PM, Kacper Michajlow wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 at 22:14, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
On 7/26/2025 10:01 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 7/26/2025 8:2
Hi
On Sat, Jul 26, 2025 at 10:41:57PM +0200, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
[...]
> Here's an idea I had to make the transition a bit more rapid:
>
> - Retire git.videolan.org, make it a pure mirror nobody can push to (except
> the mirror script).
+1
> - Make source.ffmpeg.org point to git.ffmpeg.
Hi Timo
On Sat, Jul 26, 2025 at 10:41:57PM +0200, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
> On 7/26/2025 10:24 PM, Kacper Michajlow wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 at 22:14, Timo Rothenpieler
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 7/26/2025 10:01 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> > > > On 7/26/2025 8:29 PM, Timo Rothenpieler w
On 7/26/2025 11:07 PM, Kacper Michajlow wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 at 22:42, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
On 7/26/2025 10:24 PM, Kacper Michajlow wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 at 22:14, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
On 7/26/2025 10:01 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 7/26/2025 8:29 PM, Timo Rothenpiele
On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 at 22:42, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
>
> On 7/26/2025 10:24 PM, Kacper Michajlow wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 at 22:14, Timo Rothenpieler
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 7/26/2025 10:01 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> >>> On 7/26/2025 8:29 PM, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
> It's still
On 7/26/2025 9:41 PM, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
> Again, many people have literal decades of experience and tooling set up
> to deal with this exact workflow.
https://xkcd.com/1172/
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On 7/26/2025 10:24 PM, Kacper Michajlow wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 at 22:14, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
On 7/26/2025 10:01 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 7/26/2025 8:29 PM, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
It's still an extended test. You cannot push to it, since it's just a
mirror.
That's not what
On 7/26/2025 9:29 PM, Kacper Michajlow wrote:
> I agree. But like mentioned in the previous message, I don't think
> giving more time changes this in practice. It will likely just move
> the "pain point" to a different date. Because at some point there will
> be "the date".
+1
> Of course this hi
On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 at 22:23, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
>
> On 7/26/2025 10:14 PM, Kacper Michajlow wrote:
> > n Sat, 26 Jul 2025 at 21:29, Timo Rothenpieler
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 7/26/2025 7:03 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> >>> On 7/22/2025 4:53 AM, Lynne wrote:
> ---
> src/contac
On 7/26/2025 9:24 PM, Kacper Michajlow wrote:
> It's just my personal opinion and it doesn't reflect anyone else in
> the community.
It also broadly reflects my view, FWIW.
- Derek
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On 7/26/2025 9:14 PM, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
> It's what the whole vote was about, the vote was not "Let's migrate to
> this", but "Let's put this through a more extended test".
> So I'd say the list was very much informed about that?
I'd say this announcement should be amended to reflect this
On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 at 22:14, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
>
> On 7/26/2025 10:01 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> > On 7/26/2025 8:29 PM, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
> >> It's still an extended test. You cannot push to it, since it's just a
> >> mirror.
> >
> > That's not what written in the announcement,
On 7/26/2025 10:14 PM, Kacper Michajlow wrote:
n Sat, 26 Jul 2025 at 21:29, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
On 7/26/2025 7:03 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 7/22/2025 4:53 AM, Lynne wrote:
---
src/contact | 11 +++
src/index | 52
n Sat, 26 Jul 2025 at 21:29, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
>
> On 7/26/2025 7:03 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> > On 7/22/2025 4:53 AM, Lynne wrote:
> >> ---
> >> src/contact | 11 +++
> >> src/index | 52
> >> 2 files changed, 63 insert
On 7/26/2025 10:01 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 7/26/2025 8:29 PM, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
It's still an extended test. You cannot push to it, since it's just a
mirror.
That's not what written in the announcement, and the fact it is "still
a test" has not been communicated on this list, to
On 7/26/2025 8:29 PM, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
> It's still an extended test. You cannot push to it, since it's just a
> mirror.
That's not what written in the announcement, and the fact it is "still
a test" has not been communicated on this list, to my knowledge. It's
all about as clear as mud..
On 7/26/2025 7:03 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 7/22/2025 4:53 AM, Lynne wrote:
---
src/contact | 11 +++
src/index | 52
2 files changed, 63 insertions(+)
So I am a bit unclear, is development now Forgejo or ML, or both?
Bec
On 7/22/2025 4:53 AM, Lynne wrote:
> ---
> src/contact | 11 +++
> src/index | 52
> 2 files changed, 63 insertions(+)
So I am a bit unclear, is development now Forgejo or ML, or both?
Because right now, it seems like both, and that
Hi
On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 06:05:12PM -1000, compn wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 11:59:23 +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>
> > Hello Kieran
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 10:39:01AM +0100, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
> > wrote:
> > > > About 2. (IMHO)
> > > > * The solution is to hire car
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025, 12:41 Nicolas George, wrote:
> Jacob Lifshay (HE12025-07-24):
> > ok, I prefer to never do that though because it makes reading the
> > patches very annoying. Anyone should be able to read the patches
> > without having to download files and open them in their editor (which
>
Jacob Lifshay (HE12025-07-24):
> ok, I prefer to never do that though because it makes reading the
> patches very annoying. Anyone should be able to read the patches
> without having to download files and open them in their editor (which
> is particularly annoying on phones), leaving a bunch of unw
On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 20:58:19 -0700, Jacob Lifshay wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 8:40 PM compn wrote:
> > people can always just manually attach patches to emails sent to
> > ffmpeg-devel list. no need for git send mail.
>
> ok, I prefer to never do that though because it makes reading the
>
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 11:59:23 +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> Hello Kieran
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 10:39:01AM +0100, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
> wrote:
> > > About 2. (IMHO)
> > > * The solution is to hire carl or someone else (or find a volunteer)
> > > to do this work. Changing t
On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 8:40 PM compn wrote:
> people can always just manually attach patches to emails sent to
> ffmpeg-devel list. no need for git send mail.
ok, I prefer to never do that though because it makes reading the
patches very annoying. Anyone should be able to read the patches
withou
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 02:15:22 -0700, Jacob Lifshay wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 1:44 AM Kacper Michajlow wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 at 05:54, Lynne wrote:
> > > +Additionally, new users have frequently encountered difficulties
> > > with mailing list development.
> > > +From fi
Michael Niedermayer (HE12025-07-23):
> 2. hire more reviewers/maintainers, so we have more manpower, FFlabs and STF
> are
>options here, both these options should be used.
It seems to me that the influence of FFlabs on the project has done much
more harm than good, especially with regard to o
Michael Niedermayer (HE12025-07-23):
> Let me quote the president and CEO:
>
> "The company is just a way to finance the community to work on the same
> things as usual."
>
> and
>
> "To me, the company should be transparent to the project. It's just a way
> to funnel money to the community."
On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 10:59 AM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
>
> Hello Kieran
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 10:39:01AM +0100, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > About 2. (IMHO)
> > > * The solution is to hire carl or someone else (or find a volunteer)
> > > to do this
Hello Kieran
On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 10:39:01AM +0100, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > About 2. (IMHO)
> > * The solution is to hire carl or someone else (or find a volunteer)
> > to do this work. Changing the tracker will not fix this.
> >
> > FFlabs should have enough
>
>
>
> About 2. (IMHO)
> * The solution is to hire carl or someone else (or find a volunteer)
> to do this work. Changing the tracker will not fix this.
>
> FFlabs should have enough captial to hire carl for this. People should
> ask
> FFlabs to hire him and carl to accept to be hired for t
Hi Lynne
On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 01:01:06PM +0900, Lynne wrote:
>
>
> On 23/07/2025 08:04, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi Lynne
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 12:53:29PM +0900, Lynne wrote:
[...]
> > > +
> > > +We are also hoping that this will significantly reduce the amount of
> >
Hi Lynne
On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 01:01:06PM +0900, Lynne wrote:
>
>
> On 23/07/2025 08:04, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi Lynne
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 12:53:29PM +0900, Lynne wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > +
> > > +Bugs/issues will be accepted on > > href="https://code.ffmp
On 22/07/2025 17:44, Kacper Michajlow wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 at 05:54, Lynne wrote:
---
src/contact | 11 +++
src/index | 52
2 files changed, 63 insertions(+)
diff --git a/src/contact b/src/contact
index 6943d06..8a598
On 23/07/2025 00:01, Leo Izen wrote:
On 7/21/25 23:53, Lynne wrote:
---
src/contact | 11 +++
src/index | 52
2 files changed, 63 insertions(+)
In addition to what kasper said, you should also update README.md's
contributing
On 23/07/2025 08:04, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Hi Lynne
On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 12:53:29PM +0900, Lynne wrote:
[...]
+
+Bugs/issues will be accepted on https://code.ffmpeg.org/";>code.ffmpeg.org, alongside
+with https://trac.ffmpeg.org/";>trac.ffmpeg.org for the time
being.
+
Hi Lynne
On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 12:53:29PM +0900, Lynne wrote:
[...]
> +
> +Bugs/issues will be accepted on href="https://code.ffmpeg.org/";>code.ffmpeg.org, alongside
> +with https://trac.ffmpeg.org/";>trac.ffmpeg.org for the time
> being.
> +
People should not submit bug report
On 7/21/25 23:53, Lynne wrote:
---
src/contact | 11 +++
src/index | 52
2 files changed, 63 insertions(+)
In addition to what kasper said, you should also update README.md's
contributing section at the bottom of the file.
M
On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 1:44 AM Kacper Michajlow wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 at 05:54, Lynne wrote:
> > +Additionally, new users have frequently encountered difficulties with
> > mailing list development.
> > +From finding out the correct SMTP login details, configuring git
> > send-em
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 at 05:54, Lynne wrote:
>
> ---
> src/contact | 11 +++
> src/index | 52
> 2 files changed, 63 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/src/contact b/src/contact
> index 6943d06..8a59864 100644
> --- a/src/contact
> +++ b/sr
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