At 21:36 29/01/2001 -0600, you wrote:
And we now have the paperless office that was predicted 5 years ago.
Maris
exactly. you can still buy a brand new Nikon FM2, which is in production
for around 20 years now. My Canon camera of the same vintage is still doing
well. My flatbed is OK, so many
Laurie:
Thanks for your philosphical approach. I am terminating this discussion
before it gets out of hand in the sense that it clogs this List with OT
matters.
Hart Corbett
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From: "Laurie Solomon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000
Just a question:
how do you remove an embedded color space from your large tiff file?
I have a color profiling capable software package, but it didn't allow me to
profile convert to color profile 'none'. It seemed it just didn't do any
conversion if you selected none. Without the conversion I
Hi,
your pictures are BEAUTIFUL!
I don't think there is a need for sRGB, but I don't think it adds much to
the file size too. So if you want to be absolutely sure
that for people who are fussy about color and such you have a maximized
chance they see what you want them to see, then
embed
Some great shots!
Spencer Stone
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cooke, Julie
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:54 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: filmscanners: [OFF] problem with image brightness
Does everyone here embed sRGB
Michael:
Thanks for your excellent advice (and the opportunity to post this message).
You may have missed my post a while back that outlined what I'm
contemplating for a totally new system from the ground up. I've had my
present setup for 5 years and only had one computer setup before that,
Roman said...
Unless we can get a decent copy directly onto
a photographic paper.
I think he's hit the nail on the head there. The output
stage is the key.
All of us on this list know the hassles to be suffered
plugging gadgets into our computers and getting satisfactory
photographic
Thanks, the photos were scanned into Adobe RGB working space using Nikon
Coolscan III, under Windows. The images were manipulated in Photoshop, so
I've used the Photoshop gamma tool and the web site was tested mainly using
Internet Explorer 5.0. If I convert to sRGB, I will lose something from
Hi Tom
If you haven't already seen it, take a look at this site:
http://www.photoscientia.co.uk/Review.htm
Cheers
Peter Marquis-Kyle
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From: "Tom Christiansen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 4:13 PM
Subject: filmscanners:
I have read, and even tried, the suggestion of pre-washes or pre-soaks.
The "logic" behind it was that by pre-wetting the film, it would
reduce the risk of bubbles or trapped air which might keep the developer
from the film surface. It also brings the film and reels, etc, up to
Its interesting to look at what the photographic industry is
experimenting with.
Mini Labs can now install a printer than scans the neg ,adjusts the
contrast levels ,colour corrects and then prints using LEDs or Laser
beams and then processes conventionally.
As I understand it the number of
Excellent move Berry.
I junked my Nikon f4 kit, it was ok for quick point and shoot stuff but
the optics left a lot to be desired.
My Contax gear will and does give good results and Ive made 30x40 inch
prints (photographic,not ink jet ) which are very sharp.
AND you will still be using it in 10
I'm not sure if I'm understanding your question. I have Photoshop set for
Adobe RGB and to ask me every time I open an image (if the profile is
different) if I want to keep the embedded profile or to open without it.
So if you're looking to remove a profile, just set Photoshop to a different
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Laurie Solomon
wrote:
you are still more or less *cunt* and can afford
Eh!!!
Brian Rumary, England
http://freespace.virgin.net/brian.rumary/homepage.htm
I've had a medium format trannie scanned from a new local lab, specialising
in digital. First time I've used them. The scan was made with a Heidleberg
HiRes scanner. I've just looked at the trannie and it appears to be damaged.
It looks as if a patch of the galantine layer has come off. This was
IronWorks wrote:
And we now have the paperless office that was predicted 5 years ago.
Maris
Try 20 years ago... ;-(
Art
35mm film will go the way of the do-do, just as movies theaters did when
television started showing films, and later when videotaped movies came
out. I haven't seen a movie theater in decades, have you?
However, in fairness, 8mm movie film has become a rarity since video
camcorders. What
I have rarely found buying top of the line works out as "good value" in
most peripherals. Look at things like dot matrix printers. I bought a
top end one which cost a minor fortune. Sure it still could work if I
used it, it was designed to last. Too bad it was superseded for most
A couple of things you may not know about the Epson 1520. It is a fine
printer, in terms of quality of the printing, as it uses the 1440 dpi
resolution, but it doesn't support the newer variable dot printing,
which improves the gradients in light areas on their four color printers.
Also, be
It's really crazy, but here in Georgia, they keep building movie theaters,
and they keep closing them!
As far as the future of 35mm film is considered, have you ever seen some of
those shots from film based spy sats, surely some more of this technology
will trickle down and cause greater advances
Julie writes ...
... The images were manipulated in
Photoshop, so I've used the Photoshop gamma
tool and the web site was tested mainly using
Internet Explorer 5.0. If I convert to sRGB, I will lose
something from the images and increase the file size.
If you convert to sRGB ...
Hi, Pete!
Isn't the Epson 1200dpi scanner one of those that uses two 600dpi CCD
arrays, offset by 1/2 pixel? If so, then of course it looks like a 600 dpi
scanner-- it is merely doing hardware interpolation.
The only way this kind of dual array sensor could work would be if the
individual
Gee, there are a number of 10-18 screen multiplexes where I live; do they
count as movie theaters? I have actually gone to see movies in them also;
but there are many people in my university town who got to see movies in
these multiplexes every week and throughout the week. They always seem
I never intended to write anything of the sort. The computer skipped some
characters in transmitting the message. It should have read: "you are still
more or less current and can afford" Sorry about that.
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HI, everyone!
I guess I'll weigh in with my opinion on the future of photography...
In ten years
I believe that digital cameras will continue to get better and better, but
the rate of improvement will be less and less as time goes by. Unless there
is a dramatic change in the methods of
I feel strongly that a 10 year prediction is realistic in relation to
buying kit for personal use.
Of course one cannot argue with feelings so I will only say that while I
feel the ten year prediction is slightly on the optimistic side even for
personal use kits, as you put it in so British a
Larry writes ...
I'm not sure if I'm understanding your question. I have
Photoshop set for Adobe RGB and to ask me every
time I open an image (if the profile is
different) if I want to keep the embedded profile or to
open without it.
So if you're looking to remove a profile, just set
I would suggest (a) that your office is a rarity, (b) your office
technically is not a "paperless office" in that you still receive invoices,
receipts, etc. from others that you need to scan in, and (c) most other
places which are relying heavily on electronic operations still tend to keep
paper
Well... Perhaps that's what was meant after all?
Laurie Solomon wrote:
Gee, there are a number of 10-18 screen multiplexes where I live; do they
count as movie theaters?
snip...
I just released VueScan 6.6 for Windows, Mac OS and Linux.
It can be downloaded from:
http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html
What's new in version 6.6
* Significantly improved image cleaning. It now
removes dust spots completely when there's an
infrared channel and reduces film grain at
I'm not too sure about the pixel and array size statement. The CCD's in
current 3.3Mpixel CCD cameras like the Olympus 3030 have a diagonal
dimension about a third that of the Canon D30 SLR digicam's sensor. As
signal processing and memory get faster and lower power (which happens at a
steady
Clark Guy writes ...
I believe that digital cameras will continue to get better
and better, but ...
...
because we are already approaching the limit of how small a
single pixel can be. It can't be smaller than a wavelength
of light, and we are approaching this limit even now. ...
it sounds like you have a bad lamp or ccd sensor, I get good results from mine.
I prefer to use Vuescan. Let us know how Acer does with service.
Tom Christiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi List,
I'm experiencing some problems with the Acer ScanWit I bought two weeks
ago. Before I call Acer
Does the Acer have the IR channel that I understand is necessary to make use
of Vuescan's "Clean" feature?
Maris
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From: "Peter Marquis-Kyle" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:20 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Acer Scanwit 2720
Laurie,
Your post outlining your extensive processing experience left me somewhat
embarrassed at my lazy attitude to working in the darkroom.Well, many
of us amateurs go through the experience of hearing, "get that mess
cleared up!".
I have all the "right" equipment, 120 film, Beselar,
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From: "Clark Guy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For
: professional photography, there will be specialized digital camera
backs
: that can do perhaps as much as 25Mpixels or better using scanning
: technologies. ~~~
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From: "Arthur Entlich" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:
: I now buy those $100 (or less) flatbeds, and replace them as the newer
: models come out with higher resolution, more speed, or other features.
: I'm sorry but you can't make even a "good quality 300 dpi" scanner
into
: a
Most of us just ignored it !!!
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From: "B.Rumary" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000 real value?
: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Laurie
Solomon
: wrote:
:
: you are still more or less
Given Moore's Law
I'd like to give my rant on this... It is NOT a law damn it! It is an
assertion. One that MANY people in the industry made before, and about the
same time Moore did. He did not come up with this. It is like saying Bill
Gates invented software.
Sorry ;-)
Clark Guy writes ...
I believe that digital cameras will continue to get better
and better, but ...
...
because we are already approaching the limit of how small a
single pixel can be. It can't be smaller than a wavelength
of light, and we are approaching this limit even now. ...
I have been offered a new Epson Stylus Color 1520 for 150 US $, which I
would like to use for large BW and color prints. I have a SS4000.
I've owned a 1520 for years from when it was relatively new. It's
been a serviceable printer and good for me to use to mockup projects
for books, but I
Paperless office? No way. Printed docs are a lot easier to read and can be
"pulled up" a lot faster than any computer can, especially if you're
organized.
When I was working for Wells Fargo, I was either being a witness on a
witness stand in a courtroom or having my deposition taken
It was written:
because the film swells with water and the developer then
doesn't fully migrate into the emulsion, especially at the rate the
manufacturers pre-test the development times for.
My gut feeling is that because the film is already wet, the developer would migrate
into the emulsion
Ed,
Now that we are onto v6.6 of VueScan, can we skip v6.6.6? It will be a devil
to install and run that one!
Bob Turner
Dundee, Scotland, U.K.
Website : www.bawbee.co.uk
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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:52 PM
Subject:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 13:03:42 -0700, Michael Moore wrote:
My personal advice would be to buy a G4, you'll find it way easier to expand
(and you will want to expand once your scientific mind latches onto what is
really happening here... there is never enough RAM or a large enough hard
drive...)
Alan, I think the best reason by far for scanning and printing our own is
to be able to have the print look like we want it to, instead of what the
minilab is set for. I find their stuff usually grossly oversaturated. I
print mine like I prefer them.
Also, all minilab prints are using a
HI, Bob!
That's one of the points I feel most secure about.
There is that lower limit to how small the CCD elements (photon buckets) can
be. Too small and they get noisy, smaller than that and they are too small
to respond to visible light!
Then there is the upper limit dictated by how
Hi,
a bit off topic I know, but as there are plenty of
photographers on the list who shoot slides, I just wondered if anyone could
recommend software that would print suitable labels for slides. Ideally this
would be a feature of an imagelibrary package, but maybe that's too much
to ask!
In a message dated 1/30/2001 1:23:58 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does the Acer have the IR channel that I understand is necessary to make use
of Vuescan's "Clean" feature?
No, only the ScanWit 2740 has the infrared channel.
Regards,
Ed Hamrick
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: filmscanners: VueScan 6.6 Available
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:52:03 EST
I just released VueScan 6.6 for Windows, Mac OS and Linux.
It can be downloaded from:
http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html
What's new in
I see Acer has a new Scanwit 2740S out which now includes Digital ICE.
If you know yet, any problems in Vuescan supporting the 2740S, and does the
2740S now therefore have the IR channel your clean feature uses?
Maris
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Hi Pete,
Check this out. It was recommended to me by Image Bank about five years
ago. Don't know anything about it because I've never used it.
http://www.perfectniche.com/html/cradock_caption_writer.html
a bit off topic I know, but as there are plenty of photographers on the
list who shoot
I live in Salt Lake City, Utah as in Sundance Film Festival I have
also worked as still photog on a few features as well as shot a few
documentary in my hoary past lives... the digital versus film debate gets
endlessly argued here every year... when video tape came out, it was also
Since getting a filmscanner, I've become more conscious of the need to
store, protect, and organize my negatives. I've also begun generating
alot of CD-R's that store the scans of these negatives.
For the negatives, I've purchased negative sleeve pages from
www.printfile.com which I like so
What you suggest can not be made today, with current technology for process,
packaging and material. You have to get all the wires out of the die, AND
it has to be done such that crosstalk is eliminated, as well as adjacent
sensors interfering with each other.
Speed is not really an issue
Sheesh! I think he was kidding!
Frank Paris
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http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=62684
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Laurie Solomon
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 8:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
I have a 3-ring binder that holds sheets of archival translucent plastic
material that hold two CD's each, "with or without Jewel Case". They are
made in packs of 10 by Fellowes Computerware (1789 Norwood Ave. Itasca,
Illinois 60143-1095 USA)1-800-945-4545 in US. Outside US: 630-893-1630
on 1/30/01 2:32 PM, Clark Guy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Michael!
Uhh... 35Mb file at 24bits per pixel corresponds to what... 1.45 million
pixels. That's just 8 bit color.
Haven't you confused bits with bytes? 24 bits is 3 bytes. 35 MB--not 35
Mb--would give you 35 MB/3B = 11+
Since the late 1980's, I have been buying archival storage materials from
Light Impressions, Rochester, New York. Telephone 18008286216.
Web site:www.lightimpressionsdirect.com
Their catalog is full of all sort of archival storage materials,
presentation archival materials, environmental
(1) Will the 1200, using non-OEM inks, clog up if it's used for periods
separated by months?
(2) Will the 1200 clog up, using Epson inks, if only used periodically as
above?
In an attempt to respond to the above question, I think that most inkjets,
including the 1200, if left for any extended
Hi Peter,
If you haven't already seen it, take a look at this site:
http://www.photoscientia.co.uk/Review.htm
Seen that one. That's one of the rewievs that made me buy this scanner. I'm
getting nowhere near his results. However, I don't know if his images are a
result of hours of curve
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