Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-30 Thread Walter Bushell
SNIP Any filtering of this nature would not be done at the lens level. A lens is an optical device, and the best thing it can do is accurately translate everything it sees to the sensitive/recording layer. This is what all lenses strive toward. If any type of resolution lowering were to

Re: filmscanners: why not digital minilabs?

2001-06-30 Thread Walter Bushell
Because the transistion from digital image to print is non trivial. It's similar to the problems of printing negitives. Lynn: I understand that the digital machines will also accept an image that is given to them on a disk and that the machine can make the print from it. Wouldn't this allow

Re: filmscanners: exposing C41 for scanning ( was gibberish header)

2001-06-30 Thread Tony Sleep
On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:06:18 +1000 Rob Geraghty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have seen banding in a SS4000 scan when using layers to bring up dark details. Under normal circumstances you would never see it though. Hmm, well, I quite often do this, and still have never seen banding. Yours

Re: filmscanners: Setting screen gamma problem

2001-06-30 Thread Tony Sleep
On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:29:41 +1000 Julian Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hence my original question - should such a step wedge look evenly spaced on a well set up monitor? I've never yet seen one where this really is the case. CRT's just seem to be inherently non-linear in the

Re: filmscanners: Color Cast removal/and blue blues

2001-06-30 Thread Tony Sleep
On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 06:41:02 +0900 mahimahi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I am having problems in regard to color cast removal when using the Nikon LS1000/silverfast combination. The problem shots are underwater images which include a deep blue background but end up pea green. Shots that do

Re: filmscanners: exposing C41 for scanning ( was gibberish

2001-06-30 Thread Tony Sleep
On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:16:18 -0400 rafeb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Temperatures should be lower this weekend, so maybe I can check out the heat angle. Heat may affect lubricants and tolerances, of course. Which may impact resonant behaviour of the mechanism The Super Fine Scan checkbox

Re: filmscanners: exposing C41 for scanning ( was gibberish header)

2001-06-30 Thread Arthur Entlich
Hemingway, David J wrote: Rafe, FYI, I also have a new 8000 ED that has the same banding issue but I am having a hard time getting upset over it.:) When I do the fine ccd it does get rid of the problem but when I read the help associated with the button it says that fine CCD can add as

Re: filmscanners: On dust

2001-06-30 Thread Arthur Entlich
I think we've had this argument before, about two years ago. Perhaps it is true that Plutonium is not as risky as once reported, but individual response to ionizing radiation is just that, and therefore a relative unknown, so I prefer to err on the side of caution, and would recommend others do

Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-30 Thread Arthur Entlich
Walter Bushell wrote: It is precisely the randomized nature of film that alaising does not occur. There is no grid, so there is nothing to beat against, so to speak. So maybe the answer is to randomize the sensor array, Captain? Of course, while keeping the dilithium crystals aligned...

Re: filmscanners: exposing C41 for scanning ( was gibberish

2001-06-30 Thread rafeb
At 07:46 AM 6/30/01 +0100, you wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:16:18 -0400 rafeb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Temperatures should be lower this weekend, so maybe I can check out the heat angle. Heat may affect lubricants and tolerances, of course. Which may impact resonant behaviour of the

RE: filmscanners: 8000 ED Banding... What nikon said.

2001-06-30 Thread Lawrence Smith
Tony, No they didn't. However, the vendor I purchased it from called me yesterday to tell me the Nikon Rep will have a unit for me on Monday. I still have not decided whether i am going to swap it out of try a different kind of scanner. Lawrence Did they send you their test scan with no

Re: filmscanners: Film base deterioration (was Digital Shortcomings)

2001-06-30 Thread rafeb
At 07:46 AM 6/30/01 +0100, you wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:19:52 -0700 Karl Schulmeisters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Well since the film I have from HS is some 30yrs old, and has been = treated awfully for the most part, and still hasn't shown film-base = deterioration, I haven't seen

Re: filmscanners: linux Nikon LS 2000

2001-06-30 Thread Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)
At 20:16 29-06-01 +0600, Gracia M. Littauer wrote: Yo gang, Anyone using linux (SUSE 7.2) with a Nikon LS 2000??? Drivers? I'd like to know also re: LS4000. Until then I won't be able to wean myself away from Windows even with Win4Lin (runs Photoshop in Linux). Cary Enoch Reinstein aka

RE: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-30 Thread Frank Nichols
I wonder if it would be posisble to create a randomized pattern of sensors on a CCD/CMOS chip? /fn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Walter Bushell Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 11:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners:

RE: filmscanners: Digicams again was Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-30 Thread Frank Nichols
Robert, I understand your hesitancy, however, you make several assumptions that I didnt. 1. SNR remains at todays levels. 2. Sensitivity remains at todays levels. 3. The array would be small - why not a 4 x 6 with a 10x increase in density? that would require about 1.5GPixels (If I didn't slip

Re: filmscanners: LS-4000ED Dmax 4,2 or rather 2,3?

2001-06-30 Thread Dave King
'Popular Photography' is to Photography as 'The Sound of Music' is to Music. ted orland Robert Wright Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:53:25 +0200 From: Oostrom, Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: LS-4000ED Dmax 4,2 or rather 2,3? I just read in Popular Photography about a test

RE: filmscanners: exposing C41 for scanning ( was gibberish header)

2001-06-30 Thread Lynn Allen
Rafe wrote: Shoulda listend to my wife. She said to give up on film, get a digital camera. Hope Rafe has a good, sturdy kitchen table! ;-) --LRA _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Re: filmscanners: why not digital minilabs?

2001-06-30 Thread Dave King
I use Frontier prints for my commercial clients who need quantity prints. The requirement is to prepare an output size TIFF file at 300 dpi, and tagged sRGB. My studio system is calibrated using ColorVision PhotoCal and Profiler Pro, and the Frontier prints are practically identical to my 1160

RE: filmscanners: Digicams again was Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-30 Thread Robert Meier
Frank, Memory has increased at a rate of about 2 every 1.5 years. There is good reason to believe that this will not change a lot during the next few years to come. Even with new technologies being developed (if it succeeds and can be used for imagers) it takes years to get it ready for

RE: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-30 Thread rafeb
At 07:43 AM 6/30/01 -0600, Frank Nichols wrote: I wonder if it would be posisble to create a randomized pattern of sensors on a CCD/CMOS chip? This flies in the face of all known sampling theory! I suspect that the optical system in most scanners provides more than enough filtering to limit

RE: filmscanners: Digicams again was Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-30 Thread rafeb
At 07:42 AM 6/30/01 -0600, Frank Nichols wrote: Robert, I understand your hesitancy, however, you make several assumptions that I didnt. 1. SNR remains at todays levels. 2. Sensitivity remains at todays levels. 3. The array would be small - why not a 4 x 6 with a 10x increase in density? that

RE: filmscanners: exposing C41 for scanning ( was gibberish header)

2001-06-30 Thread rafeb
At 01:04 PM 6/30/01 -, Lynn Allen wrote: Rafe wrote: Shoulda listend to my wife. She said to give up on film, get a digital camera. Hope Rafe has a good, sturdy kitchen table! ;-) --LRA Huh? Sorry, that one went right over my head. rafe b.

Re: filmscanners: Film base deterioration (was Digital Shortcomings)

2001-06-30 Thread Rob Geraghty
rafeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a number of C41 films dating back from when I was yearbook photographer in high school... in the late 1960s. None of them are showing any significant signs of deterioration. And I have some negs from about 1982 where the emulsion has virtually dissolved

Re: filmscanners: exposing C41 for scanning ( was gibberish header)

2001-06-30 Thread Rob Geraghty
On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:06:18 +1000 Rob Geraghty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have seen banding in a SS4000 scan when using layers to bring up dark details. Under normal circumstances you would never see it though. Hmm, well, I quite often do this, and still have never seen banding. Yours

Re: filmscanners: Digicams again was Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-30 Thread Rob Geraghty
Dan Honemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snippage] possibility of 6 Megapixel CCDs that are the same size as a 35 mm frame, I have to wonder if a $3k film scanner is a smart investment right now. I for one have hundreds of images already on 35mm film I want to translate to digital, so the film

Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-30 Thread Rob Geraghty
rafeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also don't really believe in film-grain aliasing -- film grain is essentially non-periodic, or, more accurately white noise -- ie, containing an even distribution of frequency elements from DC to infinity. I don't see why that excludes aliasing of the CCD

re: filmscanners: Vuescan Settings

2001-06-30 Thread Alan Womack
My 7.1.3 has a seperate control for Image Brightness and Gamma. Image brightness will affect the blacks of the image, Gamma not so much. I often leave Black to .01 or so which results in the black edge of negs or slide masks going close to 0, I almost always go with Maximum and do any

RE: filmscanners: exposing C41 for scanning ( was gibberish header)

2001-06-30 Thread Lynn Allen
Hi, Rafe, you wrote: Huh? Sorry, that one went right over my head. Reference to Steve's tongue-in-cheek remark (re the British Home Secretary's erstwhile advice in case of atomic attack) to get under the kitchen table, when he brought up a favorable example of digital photography. :-) On

filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.4 Available

2001-06-30 Thread EdHamrick
I just released VueScan 7.1.4 for Windows, Mac OS 8/9/X and Linux. It can be downloaded from: http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html What's new in version 7.1.4 * Improved color fidelity when scanning film * Fixed problem with Microtek ScanMaker V * Fixed problem with using Nikon scanners

Re: filmscanners: Vuescan Settings

2001-06-30 Thread Dave King
Doing successive previews, I recently found I couldn't revert to the start over point. How does one do this? Dave My 7.1.3 has a seperate control for Image Brightness and Gamma. Image brightness will affect the blacks of the image, Gamma not so much. I often leave Black to .01 or so

filmscanners: Grain-aliasing (was: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-30 Thread Lynn Allen
There might be a little confusion arising from the (earlier List) comparison of the *causes* of Grain-Aliasing being like superimposing two patterns. While the analogy is a good one, I'm more comfortable with Tony's previous suposition that scanners in the 1200-2700ppi range often show G-A

Re: filmscanners: Vuescan Settings

2001-06-30 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
File-Default Options Maris - Original Message - From: Dave King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 2:13 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Vuescan Settings | Doing successive previews, I recently found I couldn't revert to the | start over point. How

RE: filmscanners: Digicams again was Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-30 Thread Al Bond
Herch wrote: However, there is no way I could use a D-1x, or an F-5 and a set of lenses, etc., without pain and suffering. Rafe wrote: I visited Michael Reichmann's web site yesterday (not sure about the spelling) wherein he claims that the Canon D30 produces a better image, all around,

Re: filmscanners: linux Nikon LS 2000

2001-06-30 Thread Andrew Moore
Anyone using linux (SUSE 7.2) with a Nikon LS 2000??? Drivers? I had Slackware Linux running with an LS-30 but I think it amounts to about the same thing. I used the coolscan back-end for the SANE package. I think the same back-end supports LS-2000, LS-30, and maybe other flavors. Let me

Re: filmscanners: Vuescan Settings

2001-06-30 Thread Dave King
Thanks Maris. I tried that, but it didn't seem to work in one case. I'll give it another shot. Dave - Original Message - From: Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 5:01 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Vuescan Settings File-Default

Re: filmscanners: Digicams again was Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-30 Thread Dave King
Herch wrote: However, there is no way I could use a D-1x, or an F-5 and a set of lenses, etc., without pain and suffering. Rafe wrote: I visited Michael Reichmann's web site yesterday (not sure about the spelling) wherein he claims that the Canon D30 produces a better image, all

filmscanners: Film grain vs 2700 DPI scan resolution

2001-06-30 Thread Frank Nichols
I am a complete newbie at this photography/scanning stuff. After playing with my camera, flatbed scanner and new Scanwit for a couple months now, I have started to get a bit more serious about understanding what I am doing. This week I shot some pictures using FUGI Super HG 200 bracketing the

Re: filmscanners: Film grain vs 2700 DPI scan resolution

2001-06-30 Thread Rob Geraghty
Frank Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. With 200 film, is the grain large enough for the 2700 DPI to record it? If so could some one describe it (or email me a couple scan clips showing examples?) Colour neg films have a random mixture of different sized dye clouds. The only C41 film I've

Re: filmscanners: Film grain vs 2700 DPI scan resolution

2001-06-30 Thread rafeb
At 07:26 PM 6/30/01 -0600, Frank Nichols wrote: 1. With 200 film, is the grain large enough for the 2700 DPI to record it? If so could some one describe it (or email me a couple scan clips showing examples?) To answer your question. Yes. Frank, the biggest single improvement in my photo

RE: Re: filmscanners: Film grain vs 2700 DPI scan resolution

2001-06-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Frank, the biggest single improvement in my photo technique these last couple of years was giving up on generic ISO 200 negative films. I took a different approach...I use MF. I can shoot Tri-X till the cows come home, developed D-76 1:1, and they look very good IMO. I know that's BW,