Simply stated: I think Arthur is wrong! ;-)
I have several images on my web photo galleries who gave me a headache with
posterisations in the (monochromatic) blue skies while editing.
A photo editing program working with 16 bit/channel and feeding it with the
maximum available bit-depth from the
Henk de Jong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simply stated: I think Arthur is wrong! ;-)
Me too, but on to happier things...
I have several images on my web photo galleries who gave me a headache with
posterisations in the (monochromatic) blue skies while editing.
A photo editing program working
Hi Henk,
A photo editing program working with 16 bit/channel and feeding it with the
maximum available bit-depth from the scanner would be the solution.
Unfortunately PSP (PS is to expensive for me) is working only with 8
bits/channel. VueScan is ideal in bringing all the information which my
Austin Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you saying this applies when using Vuescan - especially with negs?
That is probably how every filmscanner that you or I would
use, works... The issue is the software (and possibly hardware), and
how it allows you to control this...but if you can get
Henk,
I have several images on my web photo galleries who gave me a
headache with
posterisations in the (monochromatic) blue skies while editing.
How do you know the original scanner data is any good?
A photo editing program working with 16 bit/channel and feeding
it with the
maximum
Hi Rob,
Austin Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you saying this applies when using Vuescan - especially with negs?
That is probably how every filmscanner that you or I would
use, works... The issue is the software (and possibly hardware), and
how it allows you to control this...but
Count me also to the 16 bit/channel club :-)
Yup, it does not cost me anything more than working with
8bits but a bit of storage for those images that I archive
for future editing. So why risk loosing information. Arguing
for 8bits is just plain silly.
Silly is one word, sophistry is
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Subject: [filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more
Hi Rob,
Well, I've been around since long before Viewscan...and IMO,
Frank,
By low end scanners, do you mean something like the Polaroid SS4000?
Because VueScan produces much better scans than Polacolor Insight.
Viewscan, nor Insight, nor any scanner software produces the scans, the
scanner and the scanner operator does. Perhaps it's true that for someone
who
Frank,
Arguing
for 8bits is just plain silly.
Silly is one word, sophistry is another.
Well, in one word, arguing against using 8 bit/channel color shows
ignorance.
Do you have an image that you can show me that is lacking because it had
tonal manipulation done in 8 bits, oh, and
Frank,
Arguing
for 8bits is just plain silly.
Silly is one word, sophistry is another.
Well, in one word, arguing against using 8 bit/channel color shows
ignorance.
Do you have an image that you can show me that is lacking because it had
tonal manipulation done in 8 bits, oh, and plus the
It is with the Nikon 4000. Vuescan simply saves it as an extra channel if
you ask it to. You can then look at it and see what it has marked for
removal.
Bob Frost.
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The IR data is simply a fourth channel, and could
easily be
Thanks for that info Bob. Does the Nikon 4000 suffer from any focus
issues, at least in your experience (assuming you have one)?
BTW, do you think the IR dust removal works well? It seems to me that it's
(dust problem) exacerbated on scanners that use point light sources, like
LEDs... I've
I was reading the spec of Nikon D2H at
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/nikond2h/page2.asp
It says
Color space * I: sRGB (Portraits Natural Skin Tones)
* II: Adobe RGB (Wide Gamut)
* III: sRGB (Landscapes and Flora
Are there multiple versions of SRGB?
I do
Nagaraj, Ramesh wrote . . .
I was reading the spec of Nikon D2H at
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/nikond2h/page2.asp
It says
Color space * I: sRGB (Portraits Natural Skin Tones)
* II: Adobe RGB (Wide Gamut)
* III: sRGB (Landscapes and Flora
Are there
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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:12 AM
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Subject: [filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more
Frank,
By low end scanners, do you mean something like the
sRGB may have a strict technical definition but different companies
apply it differently. Bruce Fraser Andrew Rodney in particular have
pointed out that what Nikon, Fuji and Canon (to point out three big
examples) call sRGB or Adobe RGB in their cameras isn't quite exactly a
pure
Frank,
Perhaps it's true that for someone who wants the software to
simply hand then a scan, Viewscan does a better job at
automating the process.
And I presume you think this is me? How condescending.
Frank, did I say that was you? No, I didn't. Don't read things into what I
say that
Austin Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have little experience with Viewscan,
FWIW, Arthur, your cheapshots against Vuescan are really stupid; you don't
know what you are talking about. It's a powerful, flexible, scanner driver.
It's not about automation at all. The software provided with
To the best of my knowledge, there is only one version of sRGB. From what
you have written, I would assume that Nikon is using the same sRGB but the
difference between I III has to do with other factors such as the default
setting of white and black points and tonal curves of the color space to
For the SS4000: I have tried many times to use the Vuescan software rather
than Insight but I keep returning to Insight. First, I find Insight
significantly faster than Vuescan. Second, I find the controls in Insight to
be just easier to use.
I still have Vuescan on my computer and am interested
Hi David,
The last I checked, Vuescan doesn't have a curves tool, although it's high
on the author's list of things to add. What it does have support for is
color calibration.
Some of the scanner software has film profiling, and I've done quite a bit
of work with it, unfortunately, that only
Since traffic is quiet here (other than the hi bit my eyes are better
than yours are debate, again) and since most of use are watching
the digital camera market with interest, I just received word of an
apparently newly released Canon camera, the Canon Digital Rebel, which
takes standard EOS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For the SS4000: I have tried many times to use the Vuescan software rather
than Insight but I keep returning to Insight. First, I find Insight
significantly faster than Vuescan. Second, I find the controls in Insight to
be just easier to use.
I still have Vuescan on my
I want to correct some information I received which appears to be incorrect.
Although one website indicated the list price of the camera package was
$1400, that is apparently not accurate. The list price is $999 US, and
it also seems to be the current street price as well.
The camera is called
I am scanning slides almost exclusively. I got VueScan as a benefit of being
a VuePrint purchaser years ago. I got free upgrades for a long time, but
they ended that with a version just above my 7.5.41. I would have to buy the
program again now and although it's not very expensive, I just haven't
On 09/16/03 7:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To be fair, I still am using version 7.5.41. Does the latest 7.6.XX offer
significantly more features or functionality? I got the last free upgrade
before Ed started charging again.
You can look at the changes history on Ed's
Austin Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The last I checked, Vuescan doesn't have a curves tool, although it's high
on the author's list of things to add. What it does have support for is
color calibration.
Some of the scanner software has film profiling, and I've done quite a bit
of work
I am scanning slides almost exclusively. I got VueScan as a
benefit of being
a VuePrint purchaser years ago. I got free upgrades for a long time, but
they ended that with a version just above my 7.5.41.
Stan - so did I, but I still get free upgrades...?
tim
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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:04 PM
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Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Vuescan vs Insight: what is
better about Vuescan? (was 24 bit vs more)
Last I checked the
This camera is now available in some shops in the US and Asia and there is a
lively debate on it in a special forum at
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1031. So far some problems
with flash exposure have been reported and the main complaint so far seems
to be the lack of flash
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