From
the quotes that have been included, I am not sure if you are responding to me or
to someone else. However, I will make a few counterpoints to your
comments.
First
of all, many of those high quality magazines published in the US which are
printed or distributed in Europe have bureaus
Of course; it might get stolen or damaged. :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 11:35 AM
To: Film Scanner
Subject: filmscanners: X-ray and digital camera
Hello,
Now that film and x-ray has been
But not everybody uses the same quality controls or implements them in the
same way with regularity. Moreover, not everyone uses the same exact
chemistry or has the same quality of water. I know of two professional labs
in my community that use different brands of chemistry which results in
Not to beat a dead horse or start an argument; but with respect to buying
film on location, I would certainly take into account the purposes of the
photography.
If it is just snap shots, then there may not be any reason not to buy film
on location as long as you get it from a respected and known
I have
yet to find anything that removes water spots once they have dried; there are
things which will reduce them - especially their obviousness - as you have
found. I have even tried rewashing the film.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Thank You
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anthony Atkielski
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Sharpness of color chrome vs color negative.
Laurie asks:
That's nice; but pardon my
No, that is not what was said. You can buy some anti-Newtonian glass and
replace your existing glass; or you can use the powder along with your
existing glass. You cannot make anti-Newtonian glass from plain glass by
sprinkling some fairy dust on it in the form of Anti-Newtonian powder; if
you
Not totally (which should not surprise you); but we are getting there. :-)
If I understand your requirements, each film should contain the same
photograph of the same subject taken at the same time (so to speak) under
the exact same lighting with the same or equivalent equipment. In addition;
You can't use the same settings for scanning positive film, then negative
film...
I should have been clearer. I meant a raw scan in which such things as
levels, curves, gammas, unsharp mask , etc. settings were the same (i.e.,
uncorrected and unadjusted). Obviously, there might be some reversal
Really very simple; they use Anti-Newtonian glass as opposed to regular
glass for starters. They might also use an Anti-Newton Rings powder on the
glass between it and the subject being scanned.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Arthur Entlich
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 7:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Getting around the firewire problem was Re:
filmscanners:Best film scanner, period!!!
LAURIE SOLOMON wrote:
I just
Of Tomasz Zakrzewski
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 1:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: MF scanner for 120 strips
LAURIE SOLOMON wrote:
That's what polish professional photographers practice, at least
I assume that is Polish as in Poland and not Polish as in the US
individual frames, individual frames in aperture
cards, some entire strips and cut what they desire and some in multiframe
strip. Not much of a trend.
David
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From: Laurie Solomon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 6:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE
: filmscanners: MF scanner for 120 strips
Laurie Solomon
When you play with the big boys; you often have to play by the established
rules of their game not by the rules of some other group of player's game
or
some other game. :-)
All the big boys I know, including me :-) cut 120 negative into strips
Laurie Solomon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
They are also much larger than 35mm and often cut for automated
processing
in aperture cards anyway when returned from the lab. Many professional
photographers who tend to be the ones who use medium format films
generally
file the frames individually
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Kehl -
Kvernstoen, Kehl Assoc.
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 3:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: MF scanner for 120 strips
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From: Laurie Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When you play
how the hell do you make contact prints off a whole roll?
You don't. When you send the film in for processing and proofing, the lab
processes the film and makes individual color corrected 3 1/2 x 5, 5 x 5 or
4 x6 machine made proof prints off the negatives and returns the set of
color corrected
But it seems that one has to cut MF images into separate frames, which is
nonsense, since MF images are also negatives which are kept in sleeves and
not only slides in frames.
They are also much larger than 35mm and often cut for automated processing
in aperture cards anyway when returned from
Wedding photography and commercial photography tend to be two very different
types of photography which have very different needs and demands.
Most wedding photographers are selling prints and mostly small size prints
8x10 or smaller with a few wall size enlargements. They have used medium
If you take your 4x5 film and cut it in half, it is. :-)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shough, Dean
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:31 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Scanning 4x5 under $500 US?
Scan Multi is
Yes, I have noticed the same thing happening - especially this evening.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 7:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: filmscanners: Re: Duplicate/triplicate
I do not use Vuescan; but why would an infrared BLACK WHITE film have a
color mask or need a special setting to remove one? I am unfamiliar with
the film that you are referring to although I do have some familiarity with
infrared BW film in general.
Unless this Infrared BW film is a
: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Vuescan and Kodak Infrared HIE BW colormask
?
At 07:17 PM 8/14/2001 -0500, Laurie Solomon wrote:
I do not use Vuescan; but why would an infrared BLACK WHITE film have a
color mask or need a special setting to remove
of the colors visible on
the monitor just as some colors visible on the monitor are not printable
using normal printing processes, i.e. inkjets.
Maris
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From: LAURIE SOLOMON [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 12:49 PM
Subject: RE
Yes. But two or three a day would be a blessing; try 30-50 a day. I get
Spam mail that automatically reconnects me to my dialup network when I open
it in preview mode to see if I need to delete it. Writing the postmaster
typically does no good since much of this Spam mail is sent via hijacked
Just to add something that might make your suggestion clearer. After
selecting the save as, one will be presented with the file format options
as Roger suggests. It is only after you select the TIFF option for your
file format that the dialog box you are referring to appears. You first
have to
It very well could be that the clock and harddrive recognition are based
soley on battery power all the time and do not use power cord power at all,
which would account for the clock slowing down if the batter is going dead
even if the computer is plugged into an active power source.
In Minolta's language, the 16-bit lineal is a pure and simple raw scan using
no gamma corrections or any other tone, color or inversing corrections at
all, including any corrections for color negative masks; the 16-bit scan
does do some basic corrections like autofocus ( if selected ), gamma
What you are getting is basically a raw scan. If you are going to do this,
making corrections and adjustments later in an image editing program, you
should probably make sure that you are getting high bit 16 bit linear scans,
which will involve selecting that option in the Minolta software
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Laurie Solomon
Sent: 26 July 2001 19:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Scanning and memory limits in Windows
I have also been told that; but noone has ever suggested exactly how one
determines
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Subject: RE: filmscanners: Scanning and memory limits in Windows
At 11:27 28-07-01 +0100, Tony Sleep wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 16:09:14 -0500 Laurie Solomon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Fine; but what do you suggest as a way to determine if and how the
additional RAM is being taken into account
, fingers crossed that I am one of the lucky ones.
Cheers,
Julian
At 12:38 28/07/01, you wrote:
Tony Sleep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:03:17 -0500 Laurie Solomon
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
I noticed in both systems that since
the addition of the RAM the Windows
in Windows
Tony Sleep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:03:17 -0500 Laurie Solomon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
I noticed in both systems that since
the addition of the RAM the Windows resources meter shows
proportionately
less system resources being used than previously (ie., more
memory spaces (of
course in 10 years we'll laugh at the present day notions of what large
memory is).
Pat
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From: LAURIE SOLOMON [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 10:57 PM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Scanning and memory limits in Windows
: Saturday, July 28, 2001 5:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Scanning and memory limits in Windows
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 16:09:14 -0500 Laurie Solomon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Fine; but what do you suggest as a way to determine if and how the
additional RAM is being taken
: filmscanners: Scanning and memory limits in Windows
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:03:17 -0500 Laurie Solomon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
I noticed in both systems that since
the addition of the RAM the Windows resources meter shows proportionately
less system resources being used than previously (ie
: RE: filmscanners: Scanning and memory limits in Windows
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 01:18:23 -0500 LAURIE SOLOMON ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
One of my systems has 758MB of RAM and
the other has 640MB of RAM. Maybe I am just lucky. :-)
Or maybe the extra RAM beyond 512Mb doesn't add any benefit
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hans Rijnbout
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 7:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Wet-mounting slides?
On 26-07-2001, LAURIE SOLOMON wrote:
I would think that what you propose would be as much of a pain in the butt
Thank you Terry. It was a very informative treatise and very worthwhile.
There was one sentence that had me wondering: So, for example, if you're an
Australian trying to assert a copyright against an infringer in the UK, you
go by UK rules; a US registration will probably not help you, unless
Rob,
Registering a copyright in one country first gives you copyright protection
in that country even if you do not live there or are not a citizen there and
second may give you some legal standing in other countries if you should
wish to bring legal action against someone who has infringed on
Tony,
The only caveat that I would offer is that, in the US at least, if the image
copyright is registered with the copyright office, there are mandatory costs
and fines associated with copyright infringements independent of damages or
consequential losses. Otherwise I agree with what you have
It's a little hard to tell from your post, but I'm assuming that you are
not arguing in opposition to registering the copyright on one's images.
Correct.
If your image is registered, even the casual image buyer will have much
to fear from you, because he will have to pay your court costs. You
Actually Lynn, if you look at my response, you will find that we are for all
intents and purposes in agreement on this. :-)
Laurie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lynn Allen
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 8:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm told by those who have that virtually all infringers will
gladly pay your triple licensing fee in accordance with ASMP and EP
practice rather than chance a suit over a registered image.
This statement is slightly over-optimistic and a little lacking in
qualifications.
First, it probably is
the image, so the digital file is not reproducible in
any realistic manner.
Art
LAURIE SOLOMON wrote:
Technically no; but you can probably get away with it if you make them low
resolution thumbnails, since you are using the images to advertise the
selling of supposedly legitimate original prints
Technically no; but you can probably get away with it if you make them low
resolution thumbnails, since you are using the images to advertise the
selling of supposedly legitimate original prints or copy prints which the
scans represent and not the scans themselves or prints made from the scans.
Tony,
While all films today may not be Estar, they are not acetate from what I
understand - may be Mylar or someother plastic base - but I could be wrong
about that.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Sleep
Sent: Thursday, June 28,
Unfortunately, I'd have to drive 70 miles--and probably twice that--to buy
a roll of 120 film of any flavor, upping the
price by 3 gallons of gas!
Unfortunately, unless you live in a big commercial metropolitan area, anyone
would have to drive a few miles to get to a retail outlet that carries
Ever think of doing something similar to split contrast printing as used in
traditional Black White photographic printing but this time with respect
to color correction. Namely, make adjustment layers for each of the
different items that need a unique color correction, masking off the other
Michael,
I am willing to accept what you say about the thickness and length of 620
compared to 120. I just seem to remember reading and hearing that it was
slightly different especially in thickness and maybe length. Well, so much
for relying on memory. :-) Happy to be corrected when wrong;
The film sizes for 120 and 620 are the same; it is only the spools that were
different and which accounted for the change in product number.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lynn Allen
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:46 AM
To: [EMAIL
:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: open and control
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Laurie Solomon
wrote:
currently copyrights in the US are valid for the
life of the originator even if assigned to someone else, I believe, and
are
renewable for a limited length of time only once.
I
A lot of people who talk about evading patents are confusing them with
copyright, which is another thing entirely.
While many people do confuse the two, one must be careful not to assume that
the distinctions and uses of the two which exist in one country hold for
another. I made that mistake
I would think that a digital camera with Macro and Zoom capabilities on a
copy stand would do a great job on the flat copy. Obviously lighting would
have to be balanced for color and glare to get the best results.
With traditional film based copy set-up, one can use polarizing filtration
(single
in
practice.
I think that it was 7.50 pounds, not US $.
This would equate to ~$13-14 US. Still not bad...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Laurie Solomon
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 10:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners
: Laurie Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I believe you may be mistaken or misinformed. The new 4000 ppi scanners
are
35mm film scanners and not medium format scanners; hence they will not
handle 120 films
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
I would hope that Lynn was writing tongue-in-cheek or that he has based
comments on out-dated information. Most of the places that I know in my
local area are charging $15 for a high resolution flatbed or non-drum film
scan. Of course, if one considers the current cost of living as being
pricey,
:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners: What is 4,000 scanner quality like in
practice.
On Wed, 23 May 2001 20:04:57 -0500 Laurie Solomon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
I believe you may be mistaken or misinformed. The new 4000 ppi
scanners are
35mm film scanners and not medium
I am afraid the message you quote, attribute to me, and respond to is not my
message but the message that I responded to. My comments were that they
might be demanding smaller files because they did not have as good a
workstation as the original poster which was capable of handling files of
the
Johnny,
There is no one US statute or even set of statutes at the federal level.
Each state has its own statutes and /or sets of applicable statutes; some of
the state statutes recognize things that the relevant federal laws do not as
well as recognizing things that other states do not.
Most of
I wonder if asking for a release could create additional problems;
Yes; but you could say that the additional problems are the cost of doing
the business of street photography. There is no free lunch.
once someone has refused to sign you have an explicit lack of consent for
the
photograph to
]]On Behalf Of Johnny Deadman
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 10:30 PM
To: Filmscanners
Subject: Re: filmscanners: OT: photographing on the street
on 5/19/01 10:57 PM, Laurie Solomon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[re needing or not needing releases for 'art']
You do in the U.S. if the person
is so we know how reliable your assertions are?
Maris
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From: Laurie Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 1:11 AM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: OT: photographing on the street
| There is no right to privacy in a public place
For art you don't need a release as far as I am aware.
You do in the U.S. if the person is recognizable and you do not want to get
sued for invasion of privacy. If the subject is recognizable and your
artwork defames their reputation and /or character or implies something
untrue or that they
That would explain it. Thank you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Scales
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 6:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Bounced messages
I do, you have the wrong host. It is: halftone.co.uk.
As a preface, when you project the slide much of that grain is masked by the
surface texture of the screen you are projecting on as well as by the
distance you need to use to project to those projection sizes as well as to
view the projected image; but the grain is probably still there just as it
Just as an additional afterthought I suspect that when the economy was
booming the corporate culture was such that they did not really give a damn
about the customers and customer service when downhill; however, with the
economy souring - especially the high tech economy - many of these
If you get good service in addition to an incredible bargain, it's
certainly worth noting. I don't like to see a sense of entitlement, here,
which causes a consumer to become righteous about getting what we
deserve. From my perspective, if you spend $300 for high-end quality, I'm
not sure you
: Re: filmscanners: OT: Film lengths was: Cleaning slides (PEC
tips)
Laurie Solomon wrote:
I pay and have paid for and expect 36 exposure for many, many years -
everything over and above that is a gift.
While that is not in question; what often is in question is the fact that
given
I don't see anything wrong with this. People are allowed to buy
new scanners if they want, and some do; ICE is a valid reason to
buy; if ICE is good for fingerprints, so much the better for it.
I never said that there was anything wrong with it or even unethical. I
questioned the offering it as
intending to take you to task for
inappropriate conduct or to put you on the defensive; I really was trying
only to suggest that your recommendation may be of limited practical use to
some users.
Respectfully,
Laurie Solomon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Art,
Interestingly, I have been finding that the length of the film leaders on
both ends of the film have gotten shorter and shorter as time has gone on.
There use to be enough leader to allow for three extra frames plus room to
put clips on the ends of the film; now in some cases there is
Ok, it has been three days later and I have received 4 more additional
copies of this message. What is happening to cause this prolonged barrage
of the same message.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Bye
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001
I am not sure what is happening or why; but I received 6 different copies of
this post. All except 1 had different time stamps but the same date.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Bye
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 6:29 PM
To: [EMAIL
I tried to remove a fingerprint from a film strip yesterday only to
find that it's embedded in the emulsion.
Alas, it is my understanding that fingerprints are not just caused from
grease alone; but fingerprints also have some acid connected with them which
after a period of time begin to eat
Have found no serious problems with 30-year-old
Ektachrome (other than its inherent contrastiness, which sometimes
challenges the DR of my scanner), but the colors *don't* seem to be as
bright as I remember.
But then, it could be your memory that has lost brilliance over the years.
:-) I could
It really does look like a different image,
color is restored and defects are gone.
You know what they say. if it looks to good to be true; it probably is.
They also say something about if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck,
and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck. :-) You have no way
From
what you have said previously and what you now say you did that corrected the
problem, I would say that you have something in the scanner which is
either a loose part that tends to move from vibration or the movements of
the scanning device causing interference with correct operations
Guess where Dicky showed up after leaving this list. You guessed it - on
the Leben Scan list. In his first post today on that list, he was
unusually civil. Time will tell if he learned his lesson.
Just a guess; but have you checked with Minolta to make sure that you have
the most recent Win2K compatible driver. I would chek the Minolta web site.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ramesh Kumar_C
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:41 AM
.
It seems problem is due to software because it scanner reboots the PC.
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From: Laurie Solomon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners: "Minolta Dimage Scan Dula II" Problems
Just a
, April 17, 2001 8:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: "Minolta Dimage Scan Dula II" Problems
on 4/17/01 4:00 PM, Laurie Solomon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok. Although they are a pain to try and contact, I would call Minolta
about
your problem. I would also recheck
]]On Behalf Of Arthur Entlich
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: OT: talking to children
Laurie Solomon wrote:
But let us not make this into a mountain out of a mole hill. :-)
I think the idea is to make a molehill out of a mountain.
Being
Hmmm! I do not know too many children that Einstein explained his theory of
relativity to who truely understood it and all its mathematical
formulations. :-) Just because one can explain something in the grossly
popularized fashion so that a child can get the general gist of the concepts
does
short
but pithy form.
Maris
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From: "Laurie Solomon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: ColorCorrectionLink
| Hmmm! I do not know too many children that Einstein explained his theory
of
| re
If you are trying to learn how to scan a picture from
negative or slides the only good software in my opinions are Silverfast
That is your opinion; but obviously, the people you are referring to do not
share your opinion and do think that the software is worth discussing.
-Original
And, of course, this comedic story is an old one that has been circulating
the internet for years. It seems to capture the character of all public
internet interactions with good natured satire; but does little to prevent
the problem. :-) But thanks for sharing old jokes.
-Original
Then you can spend your life running from seat to seat :-)
Ah, but with all that money you would not have to; you could hire people
with expertise to sit in those seats and do the work for you. :-)
Actually, if you had all that money, I am sure that you would find better
things and toys to play
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:46:19 -0500 Laurie Solomon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
I would respond that I do not know of any skin
tone filter in traditional photography. Color skin tones are made up
of a
number of different colors and tonalities such that no single filter or
filter pack
a full version of
Genuine Fractals bundled in. There was no documentation for Genuine
Fractals. Altamira's web site is useless.
By full version, what do you mean? There are several different full
versions of GF ( there is Genuine Fractals 2.0, Genuine Fractals Pro, and
Genuine Fractals Light
I just checked the Altamira web site, located at
http://206.63.152.155/default.asp
I found the following: You have the light version of GF 2.0 bundled with
your scanner and you register it from the web site.
The site also notes: The Genuine Fractals LE software included in the
bundle enables
or not.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Laurie Solomon) wrote:
Each time there would be some generational loss.
Not necessarily true. If you open and close ( or resave) the compressed
file
without changing the compression from one quality level to another in
the
case of .jog or without resampling the image
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hugo Gvert
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 7:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners: JPEG Loss - File format
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Laurie Solomon wrote:
However, my experiences with .jpg files has not been along the lines of
increa
Sorry
to jump into the middle of a conversation ( which might mean that my reading of
your remarks is out of context and my response may therefore
inappropriate). Since I believe this has been a discussion of color images
and not black and white ones, I would respond that I do not know of
that just
because the file sizes become stagnant that the pixels are identical,
either.
Anyway, that's as far as I'm going with this. I suspect that if I had
used a smaller jpeg compression, the file would have taken more
applications to be reduced to the minimum size.
Art
Laurie Solomon wrote:
Ea
Maybe - just maybe - because it is Off Topic for starters Frank. :-)
Another more substantive possibility might be that it really is not a photo
printer as much as a printer for fine arts work in the sense that its
pigmented inks do not have the gamut of the OEM dye based inks which may be
more
A well known medical newspaper printed on high glossy paper wants their
pictures files in .jpg level 5 .!!They must also have done some test
there jpg.5 level seems to suite there needs.
Lynn, your example leave the reader to make a lot of assumptions with no
real empirical basis for making
Out of curiosity, how many timed did you do this and what sorts of changes
did you see? Have you tried the same experiment using another image editing
program to eliminate the possibility that it might be more a by-product of
what PSP is doing than what is generic to JPEG compressions?
So the image DOES degrade with each iteration, whether or not it is
changed.
Aside from the fact that this does not sound right to me nor has it been my
experience or in the things that I have read on the subject, such
degradation that you suggest in the case in question - if it takes place -
is
That's right in theory, but I'm not so sure that's what happens in
practice,
Lynn, you are right that the way any given application implements a
compression program (be it .jpg or some other compression program) will
often effect what happens in terms of files sizes, production of artifacts,
and
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