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From: "Rob Geraghty" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Re: VueScan 6.4.13 Available
Byron wrote:
The image became extremely red/green posterized in small areas
for no apparent reason. I
Tim,
You can indeed miss process colour neg film and correct in an editing
package.
If pre soaking in order to bring film up to temperature is not
recommended, why do it ?
If you are going to the trouble and expense of home processing which
will ultimately cost more than having it done at a pro
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eli Bowen
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: filmscanners: metamerism and Epson 2000P
Here's a page specifically devoted to metamerism and the 2000P:
Another thing. Metamerism is concerned with tristimulus values, and
tristimulus values have nothing to do with appearance. The entire article is
about the appearance of Epson 2000P prints under different illuminations.
Remember, tristimulus values are computed by multiplying a light source by
the
Paul wrote:
[snipped stuff about Macs which I can't comment on]
I would also like to know more about filmscanners. Of the ones I've
considered, the new Nikon Coolscan IV ED USB filmscanner is my favorite.
However, at $895.00, the price is a bit high for a photo hobbyist.
[snip] How good is
I've a lot to say about this. Those here last June may
remember an 'animated discussion' G. I've mailed Michael
Tim off-list. If anyone else is interested drop me a private
message.
Alan T
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From: Michael Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Please help me with this problem:
Me (photos) and my friend (HTML) are preparing my Internet photo gallery.
The problem is that the photos I've prepared in Photoshop 4.0 are prefect on
my screen, but when I view them through Internet Explorer 5.0 they appear
much darker. They also appear darker
This is what our esteemed Tony's web site said when I saved
it last on 11th October
PhotoCD is a cross-platform format, and film sizes from
APS to 5x4" may be scanned in a variety of resolutions from
128 x 192 pixels (Base/16) to 2048 x 3072 (16 Base). A
higher resolution and more tightly
Epson tries to walk a fine line on this matter. One the one hand, they
are absolutely within their rights to refuse service, or charge for
service for any printer returned during warranty which has head problems
which could be related to the ink used, and in fact, I would go as far
as saying
Hello All,
I agree with Arthur that honesty is the best policy. Period
Here is a real life situation to try out your honesty with: When I
purchased my Epson 1160, I thought I was getting a new printer.
That was how the store in NYC sold it to me: NEW! However, upon
close examination I saw
On Monday, January 29, Michael Wilkinson wrote:
If pre soaking in order to bring film up to temperature is not
recommended, why do it ?
I might have not been clear enough about it, but I'd already agreed
that there was no reason to prewet the film. I've never tried it and
wasn't intending to
Hi Tomasz,
Your attached picture looks fine to me in both ACDSee and Netscape. If you
want me to look at the version on your web site, please send a sink
specific to the actual image or page that it's on.
Larry
I have enclosed one picture that looks ok in Photoshop on my monitor.
Please
RG Define "quality". The Nikon IV ED is 4000dpi which is higher resolution
RG than a standard Photo CD.
Sorry, but it is 2900dpi. Coolscan 4000 ED is
4000dpi, but IV ED unfortunately is not.
-- Alex
On 28 Jan 2001 08:57:16 -0800 Frank Paris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Meanwhile, Epson printers are good enough
to produce amazing results right now, regardless of all the Epson bashing
that seems so fashionable, here and elsewhere.
I think that depends what your benchmarks are. Measured
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:30:43 -0600 (CST) patton paul
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I'm currently considering two machines, a Macintosh G3
powerbook (400Mhz, 10Gb), which is currently on sale for $1,800 (a good
price for a Mac laptop), or a G4 PowerPC (desktop) (466Mhz, 30Gb), for
$1,529.
I just released VueScan 6.5 for Windows, Mac OS and Linux.
It can be downloaded from:
http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html
What's new in version 6.5
* Added "Options|Restore color" for restoring the
color of faded film or unknown film types
* Fixed problem with "Options|Auto exposure"
Here is a link to Kodak's professional pages on Photo CD... I learned
something new here this a.m. Kodak is now offering the ProPhotoCD II...
which is for digitally originated files... you can do it yourself on
PhotoCD discs with their software.
From what you have written, it is unclear if you are using the same or
different monitors to view the images. If you are using different monitors,
then might this just be differences in monitors and /or a lack of monitor
calibration between the two. By setting your gamma at 2.2, you were
I looked at both images; and they look the same. Since I have no standard
against which to judge if they are lighter or darker than they should be, I
cannot comment on that aspect.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of fotografia - tomasz
I think the definition you are quoting is just incomplete, and confusing
as a result.
All it talks about is the fact that some object "look" the same under
some conditions (even though their spectral response is different). The
corollary (which is not included in the section you quote) is that
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Sleep
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 4:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: filmscanners: Filmscanners: Epson product philosophy (was
SS4000 and LS-2000 real value?)
On 28 Jan 2001 08:57:16
At 8:07 PM -0800 1/28/01, bjs wrote:
I just tried it on my FS2710. I agree it is very promising for the reasons
given above but 2 out of 3 tests images had a problem that rendered them
useless.
The image became extremely red/green posterized in small areas for no
apparent reason. I suspect
Your comments bring a smile to my face. Although they are economically
reasonable and express pragmatic prudence, I fear they are no longer
applicable, economically rational, or pragmatically sound in today's high
technology world.
The pace of advances far outstrips the longevity and operability
I've been scanning bw negs in Vuescan, basically using the default
settings, and every so often I get a little posterization in the dark areas
of negs with a really extreme range of lights and darks. What is the best
way to avoid this? Increase image brightness (eg., from 1 to 1.2)? Raise
the
tomasz writes ...
Me (photos) and my friend (HTML) are preparing my Internet
photo gallery. The problem is that the photos I've
prepared in Photoshop 4.0 are prefect on
my screen, but when I view them through Internet Explorer
5.0 they appear much darker. ...
...
I was told that I should
Frank writes ...
... Metamerism is a *relationship* between *two* objects,
not a *property* of a *single* object, ...
... Metamerism has nothing to do with appearances, but
is a measured relationship between two sets of
spectral reflectances under the *same* illumination.
Don't
At 11:58 AM +0100 1/29/01, fotografia - tomasz zakrzewski wrote:
I have enclosed one picture that looks ok in Photoshop on my monitor.
Please also have a look at the same picture at
http://155.158.220.252/radek/tz.ok/
this is my site "under construction". This picture you can find in
"portfolio"
Does everyone here embed sRGB colour spaces into web graphics? I wasn't sure
if this was the best thing to do, I assume it would help standardise how the
images are displayed on different machines. It would also increase file
size/image download time.
I haven't on my site (www.lightdrawing.com),
Ed makes us aware ...
I just released VueScan 6.5 for Windows, Mac OS and Linux.
It can be downloaded from:
http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html
What's new in version 6.5
...
I need to admit a bit of confusion regarding Ed's conventions for new
versions. They are his own of course,
One problem embedding color space in web graphics.
It will add approximately 10% to the file size and for me that's out of the
question because it'll slow down page load time.
Larry
Does everyone here embed sRGB colour spaces into web graphics? I wasn't sure
if this was the best thing to do,
From: "shAf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners: VueScan 6.5 Available
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:04:17 -0800
Ed makes us aware ...
I just released VueScan 6.5 for Windows, Mac OS and Linux.
It can be downloaded from:
Julie writes ...
Does everyone here embed sRGB colour spaces into web
graphics? I wasn't sure if this was the best thing to do
I assume it would help standardise how the
images are displayed on different machines. ...
You might want to consider embedding the profile ... that is, IE
Both the attached image and the web site image look OK on my moniter. Using
PC and Win98se.
Bob Wright
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From: fotografia - tomasz zakrzewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 2:58 AM
Subject: filmscanners: [OFF] problem with image
John Woodworth wrote:
Here is a quote from the FAQ's section of epson's website
(http://files.support.epson.com/txt/pho127/pho127f1.txt) which may be of
interest:
"Q: Can the Epson ink cartridges be refilled or can 3rd party ink
cartridges be used without voiding the warranty?
A:
The 600 and 800 printers were Epson's first which had 1440 dpi x 720 dpi
resolution, and they were actually amazingly good for their time. I've
got to tell you, I still use two 720 x 720 dpi Epsons and the only
complaint I have is the speed of printing. They are a bit more picky
than the
Stefano wrote:
I just got my brand new computer over the weekend and tried to install
drivers and software for my Canon FS 2710 on it. My PC works on Windows 2000
and I encountered *huge* problems in getting the PC to recognize the
scanner.
I have installed the FS2710 on W2k ok, but it was not
Laurie Soloman ,suggests buying "two steps behind" technology.
Good advice
To refine that however you seem to be talking about relatively
inexpensive kit .
A scanner costing less than 1000 dollars/600UK pounds is a consumer
item.
The manufacturers expect you to throw it away fairly soon or give
Hi Tomasz.
I have enclosed one picture that looks ok in Photoshop on my monitor.
Your sample picture looks very slightly dark on my calibrated gamma 1.8
monitor, and that's too high a target gamma to aim for, for the web.
Have you been suckered into setting up a gamma of 1 in Photoshop by any
Hi.
Thousands of objects and pigments are metameric under a Sodium D line.
So what?
It's a pity there's isn't the literary equivalent of a monchromatic
illuminant, so that you can see that you're all basically saying the same
thing in different ways. Metamerphorically.
It seems we all know
s suggestion it would be to update the 2nd digit whenever, he changes
s how the primary scan is measured, exposed, or scanned. For example,
Ed may be fixing 'raw scan' related bugs. It follows your
'2nd digit' rule, but hardly can be a reason for changing
major version number.
I see that Ed
Hi Art.
Arthur Entlich wrote:
Epson tries to walk a fine line on this matter. One the one hand, they
are absolutely within their rights to refuse service, or charge for
service for any printer returned during warranty which has head problems
which could be related to the ink used, and in
In a message dated 1/29/2001 2:13:27 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I need to admit a bit of confusion regarding Ed's conventions for new
versions. They are his own of course, but if I were to make a
suggestion it would be to update the 2nd digit whenever, he changes
how the primary
I see that Ed has a number of milestones, they are pointed with
a major version. Minors are merely service packs where some new
options also may be added for burn-in testing. Quite fast and
healthy, though we cannot feel completely safe with an every
new version.
Yes, one side effect
on 1/29/01 4:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll roll the first digit if I make significant user interface
changes.
And I'll roll out the champagne!
:)
--
Johnny Deadman
http://www.pinkheadedbug.com
I have a friend who wants to purchase a new 35mm film scanner. I am not up
on the current crop of scanners. What do you recommend in the $1500 USD or
less range?
Bill Grimwood
Alex wrote:
RG Define "quality". The Nikon IV ED is 4000dpi which is higher resolution
RG than a standard Photo CD.
Sorry, but it is 2900dpi. Coolscan 4000 ED is
4000dpi, but IV ED unfortunately is not.
Oops. I had it stuck in my head that *all* the new Nikons were 4000dpi.
Sorry! Anyway,
Interesting to note that many, many piezography users have had printers
replaced by Epson under warranty despite using pigmented inks and
retrofitted continuous inking systems -- despite having told Epson what
they'd done.
--
Johnny Deadman
http://www.pinkheadedbug.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: VueScan 6.5 Available
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:56:45 EST
I worked 10 days
straight, some days till 3 in the morning, getting the new
"Options|Restore colors" feature working. It's quite a subtle
Amen brother. The only consoling thought is that if I can get this system (film,
scanner,calibration,output) working, it will allow me to have more control over
the final image I hand my client. Problem is, everytime I think I see a light at
the end of the tunnel, it turns out to be another train
Bill asks ...
I have a friend who wants to purchase a new 35mm film
scanner. I am not up on the current crop of scanners.
What do you recommend in the $1500 USD or less range?
For that money I suggest you wait 6 months 'til this group has had
its mitts on the new Nikons, or 'til
Ed writes ...
In a message dated 1/29/2001 2:13:27 PM EST,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
... if I were to make a suggestion it would be
to update the 2nd digit whenever, he changes
how the primary scan is measured, exposed, or scanned.
There's seldom anything I do that changes the raw
on 1/29/01 2:21 PM, Michael Wilkinson at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
If you really want good value for money allied to something which will
last a decade you have to look at what you want from the product.
buy it at the right price and you are set for
the next Decade
Make no mistake about
CPU power is not the most significant aspect here. Most of the time RAM and
hard disk space and speed will be more frustrating bottlenecks. A 10Gb disk
will fill up amazingly quickly, and you will need 256Mb RAM. Enhancing any
laptop is generally expensive and they are usually poor value
I don't presently own a film scanner but I was on the verge of buying a
Microtek Artixscan 4000t. Then, Nikon replied to an e-mail inquiry that
their LS-4000 ED would be available in March for $1675US. So what should I do?
1. Wait for the LS-4000 ED.
2. Buy the Artixscan 4000t now.
3. Buy the
And we now have the paperless office that was predicted 5 years ago.
Maris
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From: "Berry Ives" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: real value?
| on 1/29/01 2:21 PM, Michael Wilkinson at [EMAIL
I said specifically that what makes two objects metameric is that under one
illumination their tristimulus values are the same and other another they
are different.
Frank Paris
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http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=62684
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From: [EMAIL
I have the ArtixScan and with Vuescan, it is a fine piece of equipment. I
also have an older Nikon LS-1000 which is a fine scanner also supported by
Vuescan. I upgraded to the Artixscan for the higher resolution.
The Polaroid is the same scanner in a different case. Both are made by
I have enclosed one picture that looks ok in Photoshop on my monitor.
Please also have a look at the same picture at
The pictures look the same on my macintosh with a 17" Acer monitor.
The grayscale wedges on the home page show a perfect gradation, too.
This is viewed with Netscape
And, of course, we will have a paperless society, advanced artificial
intelligence, and Dot Coms will rule the world replacing the traditional
principles of economics and finance with new principles of finance and
economics where producing a profitable product is unnecessary as long as you
Hi List,
I'm experiencing some problems with the Acer ScanWit I bought two weeks
ago. Before I call Acer I figured that it might be wise to check if others
have the same problems I have...
When scanning negs (Fuji Realla, NPC, and NPS) the results are OK -- not
excellent but not bad either.
From: "IronWorks" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And we now have the paperless office that was predicted 5 years ago.
I've been working in the computer industry for 20 years and I'm afraid you
are wrong. The paperless office was predicted more like 15 years ago. :-)
Thank you for this information. My experience with BW leads me to believe
that, for me, cropping often saves a photo composition.
I would like to ask you two more questions:
Based on software, which is the better bundle...the ArtixScan or the Polaroid?
Does anyone care to guess the likelihood
on 1/29/01 9:29 PM, Laurie Solomon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And, of course, we will have a paperless society, advanced artificial
intelligence, and Dot Coms will rule the world replacing the traditional
principles of economics and finance with new principles of finance and
economics where
Tom wrote:
I expect to get at least the same quality scan as when I scan a
4x6 print on a flatbed scanner. Am I expecting too much?
I had a similar reaction when I bought an Epson Filmscan 200.
I sent it back and got a Nikon LS30. The thing you should
realise is that scanning film is a lot
Hi List,
I'm experiencing some problems with the Acer ScanWit I bought two weeks
ago. Before I call Acer I figured that it might be wise to check if others
have the same problems I have...
When scanning negs (Fuji Realla, NPC, and NPS) the results are OK -- not
excellent but not bad either.
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