Re: [Finale] TAN: Olympic Star Spangled Banner

2004-08-29 Thread Dennis W. Manasco
At 4:29 pm -0400 8/28/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: No, that's not what I meant at all. What I meant was, Brad seemed to be having trouble putting himself in the shoes of an Iraqi olympian who has lost thousands of his countrymen and finds his country occupied by a foreign power. Oh. That one.

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Questions

2004-08-29 Thread dhbailey
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: My daughter is considering purchasing Sibelius for a variety of reasons. She asked me the following questions last night, perhaps you know the answers: (1) How much does it cost (she is a Senior Music Major [I don't know if there is a Student discount])? (2) Can she do

[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 36

2004-08-29 Thread David Hage
On 29/8/04 12:42 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a bunch of ingrates! We rescue his country from the grip of a tyrant, and this is the thanks we get? OK I can't resist. Over here in the UK, I am now imagining the guy who made this quote, riding around in huge pickup, with

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Questions

2004-08-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 07:43 AM 08/29/2004, dhbailey wrote: While not exactly the same as Finale's speedy entry, Sibelius does have the ability to use one hand on the numeric keypad to select note values, dots, rests, articulations and much more, while the left hand moves the cursor up and down, so it is different

Re: [Finale] Anthems (OT)

2004-08-29 Thread dhbailey
Crystal Premo wrote: the Ray Charles version of America The Beautiful. Me, too! Ah, if only *everyone* could sing like Ray. But if everyone could sing like Ray, his singing would be nothing special. As it is, if you want singing like Ray Charles, you have to listen to Ray Charles. Which is a

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Questions

2004-08-29 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 07:43 AM 08/29/2004, dhbailey wrote: While not exactly the same as Finale's speedy entry, Sibelius does have the ability to use one hand on the numeric keypad to select note values, dots, rests, articulations and much more, while the left hand moves the cursor up and

[Finale] Finale and Politics

2004-08-29 Thread Mike Casteel
I don¹t know what most of you do for a living ­ but evidently it¹s closer akin to complaining and moaning than actually using Finale. 2005 must not be that bad after all, since you¹ve decided to devote as much space as you have to your political rantings. I¹m certainly appreciative of our little

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 36

2004-08-29 Thread Crystal Premo
Or did they really play beach volleyball back in the ancient games? And badminton? Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 36

2004-08-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Yeah, or Soccer or just about every other sport in the games. How about marking this with an OT in the subject so most of us don't have to read this drivel. Crystal Premo wrote: Or did they really play beach volleyball back in the ancient games? And badminton?

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 36

2004-08-29 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:44 AM 8/29/04 -0400, dhbailey wrote: Or did they really play beach volleyball back in the ancient games? No, but they did play naked. The events I was interested in (especially equestrian ones) weren't available on our local cable system. They'd been heavily advertised, but we were offered

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Questions

2004-08-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:48 AM 08/29/2004, dhbailey wrote: But I am fascinated -- I use Speedy Entry all the time but the way I use it is with my right hand on the cursor keys to place the cursor on the correct pitch, and my left hand on the top-row number keys to define the duration. I gave up on the 3-octave

[Finale] Anthem Choices (TAN)

2004-08-29 Thread Chuck Israels
Crystal asked (and I though no one cared!) and no one asked what I'd choose for our anthem), What *would* you choose? Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED] America the Beautiful for one - a lovely tune with a good arch of melody that still stays in a range that is easy to sing, offers good

RE: [Finale] Anthem Choices (TAN)

2004-08-29 Thread Crystal Premo
Now If I could get Crystal to head up a committee If memory serves me correctly, there is already a committee lobbying for this change in anthems. Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] Finale and Politics

2004-08-29 Thread dhbailey
Mike Casteel wrote: I don¹t know what most of you do for a living ­ but evidently it¹s closer akin to complaining and moaning than actually using Finale. 2005 must not be that bad after all, since you¹ve decided to devote as much space as you have to your political rantings. I¹m certainly

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Questions

2004-08-29 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 08:48 AM 08/29/2004, dhbailey wrote: But I am fascinated -- I use Speedy Entry all the time but the way I use it is with my right hand on the cursor keys to place the cursor on the correct pitch, and my left hand on the top-row number keys to define the duration. I

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 36

2004-08-29 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
On Aug 29, 2004, at 5:32 AM, David Hage wrote: On 29/8/04 12:42 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a bunch of ingrates! We rescue his country from the grip of a tyrant, and this is the thanks we get? OK I can't resist. Over here in the UK, I am now imagining the guy who made

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 36

2004-08-29 Thread Richard Walsh
Yeah, but we have all the guns... what shall you invade with, butter knives? all in good fun, this too shall pass On Sunday, August 29, 2004, at 10:11 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Now you could say I am biased, which I probably am, but maybe what is need is the rest of the world to invade the

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 36

2004-08-29 Thread John Howell
At 8:44 AM -0400 8/29/04, dhbailey wrote: Am I the only one who feels the Olympics, as a fair and unbiased competition of speed and strength have outlived their usefulness and should be allowed to die the way they were several thousand years ago? I'm sure you aren't the only one, David, but I

Re: [Finale] Finale and Politics

2004-08-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 29, 2004, at 6:03 AM, Mike Casteel wrote: I dont know what most of you do for a living but evidently its closer akin to complaining and moaning than actually using Finale. 2005 must not be that bad after all, since youve decided to devote as much space as you have to your political

Re: [Finale] Finale and Politics

2004-08-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 29, 2004, at 6:03 AM, Mike Casteel wrote: I dont know what most of you do for a living but evidently its closer akin to complaining and moaning than actually using Finale. 2005 must not be that bad after all, since youve decided to devote as much space as you have to your political

[Finale] OT: Finale, Olympics, Americans, etc.

2004-08-29 Thread Nick Carter
Dear Finale-list friends, Just recently I was considering writing a heartfelt letter to this community concerning a subject which is dear to my heart - electric vehicles (EVs) and sustainability. I decided against because it really would be very much OT. Then there were discussions about NiMH

Re: [Finale] Anthem Choices (TAN)

2004-08-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 29, 2004, at 8:54 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: America the Beautiful for one - a lovely tune with a good arch of melody that still stays in a range that is easy to sing, offers good possibilities for harmony, and has non bellicose words; The Battle Hymn of the Republic - easy to sing,

Re: [Finale] Anthem Choices (TAN)

2004-08-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 29, 2004, at 11:25 AM, Crystal Premo wrote: The range is too wide for the average untrained singer. So I've heard. And yet, that doesn't stop average untrained singers from singing along with pop songs that have just as wide a range. mdl ___

[Finale] Speedy (was Re: Sibelius Questions)

2004-08-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 29, 2004, at 9:34 AM, dhbailey wrote: I agree about the keystrokes, but I never have to look to see where my hand is, so I can do those keystrokes far faster than I can make sure which octave and which pitch my left hand was on, using the 3-octave layout. I've done qwerty-Speedy long

Re: [Finale] Speedy (was Re: Sibelius Questions)

2004-08-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:32 PM 08/29/2004, Mark D Lew wrote: I would want the pitch sound when the entry is created (ie, typing a number key), not when the cursor moves (ie, a letter key). I'd also have the pitch sound any time a note is altered with the plus or minus (or the 9, I suppose, though I almost never use

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 36

2004-08-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Aug 2004 at 13:32, David Hage wrote: Now this is obviously a personal opinion and I fully expect to get flamed, but it appears to us here in Europe that most Americans (including the liberals) are slightly to the right of Attila the Hun. Certainly there is a view that you can teach us

Re: [Finale] Finale and Politics

2004-08-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Aug 2004 at 11:14, Mark D Lew wrote: So much space? There were -- what? -- about ten messages that were explicitly political. If you think that's excessive, then you just don't get out much. Honestly, have you looked at ANY newsgroup on the Usenet? As online communities go, the

[Finale] Americans, Right And Left (was Finale Digest, etc.)

2004-08-29 Thread Crystal Premo
On 29 Aug 2004 at 13:32, David Hage wrote: Now this is obviously a personal opinion and I fully expect to get flamed, but it appears to us here in Europe that most Americans (including the liberals) are slightly to the right of Attila the Hun. Certainly there is a view that you can teach us

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 36

2004-08-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 29, 2004, at 12:39 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: The reason you think that about the large number of us on the left in the US is that the American media ignores us entirely. Our opinions don't count. Depends on the medium. Media which are primarily funded by advertising tend toward the

Re: [Finale] Anthem Choices (TAN)

2004-08-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 29, 2004, at 11:41 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Yeah..it doesn't even stop untrained singers from performing the anthem. Have you ever heard one piece of music destroyed in so many ways by so many people? I'm not a vocal snob. I love hearing anyone sing, even if they're bad. I'd

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Questions

2004-08-29 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Dean wrote: My daughter is considering purchasing Sibelius for a variety of reasons. She asked me the following questions last night, perhaps you know the answers: (1) How much does it cost (she is a Senior Music Major [I don't know if there is a Student discount])? (2) Can she do anything

Re: [Finale] Speedy (was Re: Sibelius Questions)

2004-08-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 29, 2004, at 11:51 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote: Errr...Finale does this. Speedy | Playback. Was probably added in 2002 or 2003. It's a godsend for exactly the reasons you mention. Well shut my mouth! I'm on 2k2. I just took a look at the Speedy menu and I see Playback there, which I never

Re: [Finale] Speedy (was Re: Sibelius Questions)

2004-08-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 05:15 PM 08/29/2004, Mark D Lew wrote: Well shut my mouth! I'm on 2k2. I just took a look at the Speedy menu and I see Playback there, which I never noticed before. I turned it on and tried it, but I'm still getting no sound. I don't have any MIDI device connected. Does it only work

Re: [Finale] Speedy (was Re: Sibelius Questions)

2004-08-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 29, 2004, at 2:41 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: You don't need an external MIDI device, but you do need at least your sound card configured. I'm on Mac, so I'm not sure what sound card means in my context. Yes, we do have sound over here, but I don't know about any card. I assume you can do

Re: [Finale] Speedy (was Re: Sibelius Questions)

2004-08-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:43 PM 08/29/2004, Mark D Lew wrote: I'm on Mac, so I'm not sure what sound card means in my context. Yes, we do have sound over here, but I don't know about any card. Whoops! Sorry, I know nothing at all about Macs. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Input Methods (Was Sibelius Questions)

2004-08-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:11 PM 08/29/2004, Colin Broom wrote: I just recently bought one of these: http://uk.europe.creative.com/products/product.asp?prod=565 That looks like a great little tool. Does it work well? Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] Anthems (OT)

2004-08-29 Thread dhbailey
Andrew Stiller wrote: On Aug 29, 2004, at 8:25 AM, Crystal Premo wrote: the Ray Charles version of America The Beautiful. Me, too! Ah, if only *everyone* could sing like Ray. No, no, no, no, no! It's not even grammatical! I find it so embarrassing I hit the mute button every time it comes

Re: [Finale] Sibelius Questions

2004-08-29 Thread dhbailey
Mark D Lew wrote: On Aug 29, 2004, at 5:48 AM, dhbailey wrote: But I am fascinated -- I use Speedy Entry all the time but the way I use it is with my right hand on the cursor keys to place the cursor on the correct pitch, and my left hand on the top-row number keys to define the duration. I

Re: [Finale] Speedy (was Re: Sibelius Questions)

2004-08-29 Thread dhbailey
Mark D Lew wrote: I've done qwerty-Speedy long enough that I rarely lose track of where my hand is. Even so, I think it would be nice if there were an option for qwerty-Speedy to play the pitch as it is entered. Not like real playback, just a short beep of the right pitch. That way I would

Re: [Finale] Anthem Choices (TAN)

2004-08-29 Thread Bunnydowns
In a message dated 8/29/2004 9:17:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If memory serves me correctly, there is already a committee lobbying for this change in anthems. ...which has probably been doing its thing for at least half a century, since I first heard about it in

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 36

2004-08-29 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
On Aug 29, 2004, at 2:09 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: On Aug 29, 2004, at 12:39 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: The reason you think that about the large number of us on the left in the US is that the American media ignores us entirely. Our opinions don't count. Depends on the medium. Media which are

Re: [Finale] Speedy (was Re: Sibelius Questions)

2004-08-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 29 Aug 2004, at 06:43 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: I'm sure Darcy will have the answer for me. He's the Mac guru around here who always comes through for me. [blush] Unfortunately, on this one you may be better off asking someone else -- I use a MIDI keyboard for entry and so never have to deal

Re: [Finale] Americans, Right And Left (was Finale Digest, etc.)

2004-08-29 Thread Raymond Horton
On 29 Aug 2004 at 13:32, David Hage wrote: Now this is obviously a personal opinion and I fully expect to get flamed, but it appears to us here in Europe that most Americans (including the liberals) are slightly to the right of Attila the Hun. Certainly there is a view that you can teach us

Re: [Finale] Anthem Choices (TAN)

2004-08-29 Thread Raymond Horton
America the Beautiful is a great song. The words from the third stanza: thine alabaster cities gleam, undimmed by human tears! seem pretty amazing after 9/11. This Land is Your Land is very much a counter-culture song that has been made bland by over-familiarity. It has to be heard in the

Re: [Finale] Page turn symbol/notation?

2004-08-29 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
John Poole [Finale Discussion] wrote: I like the idea of using an abbreviated phrase, probably Italian, that accurately depicts the nature of the turn: regular vs. V.S., now I need to do a little research about the Italian phrase. In my opinion, since some of the performer's are not going to be

[Finale] Re: Crystal's problem revisited

2004-08-29 Thread jef chippewa
not at the banff centre library. english, german, french and other articles are not included in the alphabetical listings, whether they are entered the blah blah or blah blah, the. it might depend on the software used, if it can be set up to ignore a specific list of articles. banff

Re: [Finale] Anthem Choices (TAN)

2004-08-29 Thread Mark D Lew
[I just noticed that I accidentally sent this to just John, when I meant to send it to the List] On Aug 29, 2004, at 12:00 PM, John Howell wrote: Show me a list of a dozen pop songs that have a range of a 12th without going into falsetto. Oh, a challenge, is it? OK. It's possible we have

Re: [Finale] Anthem Choices (TAN)

2004-08-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 29, 2004, at 8:09 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: America the Beautiful is a great song. The words from the third stanza: thine alabaster cities gleam, undimmed by human tears! That's the fourth verse in the version I know. Yeah, there's some awesome poetry in AtB. Even plain old God shed His

[Finale] TGTools Align-Move Shortcuts in Fin2005

2004-08-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Tobias, The new Zoom In and Zoom Out keyboard shortcuts in FinMac 2005 (cmd-minus and cmd-equals) conflict with the align-move shortcuts. For instance, if you hit cmd-grey plus (move hairpins and dynamics up), it zooms the screen before applying the Align Move. Obviously that makes the