Re: [Finale] OS X problems

2005-04-17 Thread A-NO-NE Music
JD / 05.4.16 / 09:33 AM wrote: So here's the latest issue: proprietary Apple programs won't launch anymore. Safari, Mail, etc. just won't come up. They did before because I've used them. In fact, I found that Safari was the only program for the Mac that would actually access the USPS Click

Re: [Finale] OT PC question

2005-04-17 Thread A-NO-NE Music
I have two IBM Thinkpads, and it has never given me any problem except IBM/Hitach drive I don't trust so I replace the internal drives the day I receive laptop, both Mac and PC. Up until Seagate made 2.5, all of my laptop drives had been Toshiba. IBM support is quite good too. It would be

Re: [Finale] OT PC question

2005-04-17 Thread dhbailey
A-NO-NE Music wrote: I have two IBM Thinkpads, and it has never given me any problem except IBM/Hitach drive I don't trust so I replace the internal drives the day I receive laptop, both Mac and PC. Up until Seagate made 2.5, all of my laptop drives had been Toshiba. IBM support is quite good

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-17 Thread RegoR
A subtle distinction needs to be drawn here. My objection is not as a bassoonist, but as a composer. As a bassoonist, I have no beef w. the clef at all--but as a composer, I find it an unnecessary complication of the notational system. Andrew, Your point has been clearly made, and as a

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-17 Thread dhbailey
RegoR wrote: A subtle distinction needs to be drawn here. My objection is not as a bassoonist, but as a composer. As a bassoonist, I have no beef w. the clef at all--but as a composer, I find it an unnecessary complication of the notational system. Andrew, Your point has been clearly made,

[Finale] OT Mac or PC

2005-04-17 Thread Lawrence David Eden
I wrote to the head of the computer sciences center at University of Maryland to get his opinion as to what machine to buy. Some of you may be interested in his reply: Why on earth would you want to subject her to the horrors that Windows-using students are subjected to here? I spend almost all

Re: [Finale] OT Mac or PC

2005-04-17 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:14 AM 4/17/05 -0400, Lawrence David Eden wrote: As a Mac user, (Macher) I don't have to deal with the virus issue. How do PC mavens protect themselves from the deluge of attacks on their OS? I think that is overstated. For me, aside from getting program and OS updates as they're issued

Re: [Finale] OT Mac or PC

2005-04-17 Thread Linda Worsley
Lawrence David Eden wrote: I wrote to the head of the computer sciences center at University of Maryland to get his opinion as to what machine to buy. Some of you may be interested in his reply: Why on earth would you want to subject her to the horrors that Windows-using students are subjected to

Re: [Finale] OS X problems

2005-04-17 Thread JD
on 4/17/05 12:21 AM, A-NO-NE Music at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JD / 05.4.16 / 09:33 AM wrote: So here's the latest issue: proprietary Apple programs won't launch anymore. Safari, Mail, etc. just won't come up. They did before because I've used them. In fact, I found that Safari was the

Re: [Finale] OT Mac or PC

2005-04-17 Thread dhbailey
Lawrence David Eden wrote: I wrote to the head of the computer sciences center at University of Maryland to get his opinion as to what machine to buy. Some of you may be interested in his reply: Why on earth would you want to subject her to the horrors that Windows-using students are subjected to

Re: [Finale] OT Mac or PC

2005-04-17 Thread Robert Patterson
Please, people, I beg you. Take this offlist. It is dullest most pointless religious argument every single time it comes up, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this list. dhbailey wrote: Lawrence David Eden wrote: I wrote to the head of the computer sciences center at

Re: [Finale] OT Mac or PC

2005-04-17 Thread Steve Gibons
agreed here. the repetitiveness of these arguments is stultifying. On Apr 17, 2005, at 9:57 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: Please, people, I beg you. Take this offlist. It is dullest most pointless religious argument every single time it comes up, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic

Re: [Finale] OT Mac or PC

2005-04-17 Thread Simon Troup
Please, people, I beg you. Take this offlist. It is dullest most pointless religious argument every single time it comes up, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this list. Seconded, it's first class flame bait, we've all made our minds up already. -- Simon Troup Digital

Re: [Finale] OS X problems

2005-04-17 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Repair permission. In theory, you must run DiskUtil within it's boot volume to correct permission bit, and that's also what Apple tells you to do. I then found there are some directories cannot be checked because they are in use. Make sense. AppleJack runs under SingleUser mode. It actually

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-17 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Apr 17, 2005, at 5:59 AM, RegoR wrote: ...as an instrumentalist, do you feel that it then becomes the duty of the copyist to satisify the needs of the performer and engrave the music using the clefs that are more comfortable for a performer to use? In my experience, the vast majority of

Re: [Finale] OT PC question

2005-04-17 Thread A-NO-NE Music
dhbailey / 05.4.17 / 05:44 AM wrote: They've sold their PC division already, from what I've read. The last I heard, which can be dated, was that US Gov stopped that transaction. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com

Re: [Finale] OT Mac or PC

2005-04-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 17 Apr 2005, at 10:03 AM, Linda Worsley wrote: Ask the bookstore if a student can still get a deal on a Mac laptop (or any other kind). Regardless of the campus bookstore's policy, the Apple Store online allows students to obtain their educational discount online:

[Finale] browsing messages

2005-04-17 Thread amelchi
Hello, is there any suggestion, application to browse all the list messages? TIA Alessandro ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OS X problems

2005-04-17 Thread JD
on 4/17/05 12:21 AM, A-NO-NE Music at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JD / 05.4.16 / 09:33 AM wrote: So here's the latest issue: proprietary Apple programs won't launch anymore. Safari, Mail, etc. just won't come up. They did before because I've used them. In fact, I found that Safari was the

Re: [Finale] OS X problems

2005-04-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 17 Apr 2005, at 1:16 PM, JD wrote: It looks like I'm forced to zero the HD out, and reinstall. What a pain. JD, 1) Did you try creating an additional user, to see if Safari etc work when using a different account? 2) Did you try downloading and installing the standalone OS X 10.3.9

Re: [Finale] OS X problems

2005-04-17 Thread JD
on 4/17/05 10:35 AM, Darcy James Argue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 Apr 2005, at 1:16 PM, JD wrote: It looks like I'm forced to zero the HD out, and reinstall. What a pain. JD, 1) Did you try creating an additional user, to see if Safari etc work when using a different account?

Re: [Finale] OS X problems

2005-04-17 Thread A-NO-NE Music
JD / 05.4.17 / 01:16 PM wrote: I ran Terminal and entered in the prompt you provided. The first group of letters was identical to what you gave me. The remaining test was similar, but not identical. OK, a couple more things to try. Safe boot mode: Hold down shift right after you boot before

[Finale] Clip Files

2005-04-17 Thread Robert Patterson
Does anyone know if it is still possible to use clip files? I've forgotten how to do it. The reason I want to try is that copy music to the clipboard is quite buggy when it comes to staff styles and articulations based on shapes. -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com

Re: [Finale] OS X problems

2005-04-17 Thread JD
Thanks Hiro, I've been hemming and hawing all day as a prelude to the zeroing/reinstall. I'm obviously not in any hurry, so I spend time in my workshop building cabinets. It takes my mind off of and gives me a peaceful outlook on things. I'll try what you've detailed here as I go along. But

Re: [Finale] Clip Files

2005-04-17 Thread James E. Bailey
Its worked fine for me, just select whatever it is you want and drag it to the desktop. I assume thats what youre talking about. Am 17.04.2005 um 12:21 schrieb Robert Patterson: Does anyone know if it is still possible to use clip files? I've forgotten how to do it. The reason I want to try is

Re: [Finale] OT PC question

2005-04-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Apr 2005 at 5:44, dhbailey wrote: A-NO-NE Music wrote: I have two IBM Thinkpads, and it has never given me any problem except IBM/Hitach drive I don't trust so I replace the internal drives the day I receive laptop, both Mac and PC. Up until Seagate made 2.5, all of my laptop

Re: [Finale] OT Mac or PC

2005-04-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Apr 2005 at 8:14, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I wrote to the head of the computer sciences center at University of Maryland to get his opinion as to what machine to buy. Some of you may be interested in his reply: Why on earth would you want to subject her to the horrors that

Re: [Finale] OT PC question

2005-04-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Apr 2005 at 3:13, A-NO-NE Music wrote: DELL seems to be popular and attractive. I have one myself, but I don't recommend to anyone. It's just that DELL's business model is really nasty, not to mention their support is terrible. It is incredibly important to maintain a distinction

Re: [Finale] Clip Files

2005-04-17 Thread RegoR
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:21:58 -0500, Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if it is still possible to use clip files? I've forgotten how to do it. The reason I want to try is that copy music to the clipboard is quite buggy when it comes to staff styles and

Re: [Finale] OT Mac or PC

2005-04-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Apr 2005 at 9:20, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Macs have a psychological advantage in that there's little interest in writing malware for them -- you don't get cred for if you don't have widespread impact. With Windows on most of the world's desktops, all hell can break loose, with

Re: [Finale] OT Mac or PC

2005-04-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Apr 2005 at 10:25, dhbailey wrote: Lawrence David Eden wrote: I wrote to the head of the computer sciences center at University of Maryland to get his opinion as to what machine to buy. Some of you may be interested in his reply: Why on earth would you want to subject her to

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Apr 2005 at 11:43, Andrew Stiller wrote: With a concert-pitch score, the copyist will need to exercise more initiative than usual in deciding clef change issues, because quite obviously instruments with big transpositions will have parts that lie entirely differently on the staff in the

Re: [Finale] OT Mac or PC

2005-04-17 Thread A-NO-NE Music
David W. Fenton / 05.4.17 / 04:21 PM wrote: One thing I *will* differ with is Dennis's reference to monitoring your attachments folder. That clearly shows that he's using Eudora, which is the only email client I know of that decodes attachments and stores them in the file system upon arrival

Re: [Finale] Clip Files

2005-04-17 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 17, 2005, at 4:12 PM, RegoR wrote: On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:21:58 -0500, Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if it is still possible to use clip files? I've forgotten how to do it. The reason I want to try is that copy music to the clipboard is quite buggy when it

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-17 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 17, 2005, at 4:33 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 17 Apr 2005 at 11:43, Andrew Stiller wrote: With a concert-pitch score, the copyist will need to exercise more initiative than usual in deciding clef change issues, because quite obviously instruments with big transpositions will have parts

[Finale] Tempo Tool Playback

2005-04-17 Thread David W. Fenton
Can anyone give me advice on exactly why tempo tool playback might not work in a body of files that were created from the same template (an old file, probably stemming all the way back to WinFin 2.01, converted to 3.52 then to 97 then to 2K3)? I've already imported standard WinFin2K3 document

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 21, Issue 19

2005-04-17 Thread Paul Besco
A good thing to do when weirdness happens is to start up from your system install disk and run Disk Utility program to Repair Disk and Repair Permissions. These various software utilities can only do so much without working from outside the operating system. Do this regularly. Paul Besco, Rags

Re: [Finale] Clip Files

2005-04-17 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 17, 2005, at 6:04 PM, Don Hart wrote: Christopher, I haven't noticed the copying problems you're talking about, but maybe I'm not trying to move around exactly the same combination of things you are. I did notice yesterday that my Top of score, all parts staff list had been duplicated a

Re: [Finale] Tempo Tool Playback

2005-04-17 Thread Christopher Smith
David, I can't advise you about the Tempo Tool (I never use it), but I can tell you I have seen all kinds of weirdness cropping up from old files that I try to re-use as templates. I suspect that it has to do with imperfections in the conversion routine for older files. I have noticed it much

Re: [Finale] Clip Files

2005-04-17 Thread Chuck Israels
Chris, You remember all the discussion on the new 2005 copying behavior? You are describing some of the effects that go with whatever (sorry, but to me, cockamamie) changes were made to the earlier protocols. I have begged for this to be modified so that we'd have the control we need. There's

Re: [Finale] 10 short movements: one file or several?

2005-04-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 17, 2005, at 12:28 AM, d. collins wrote: I also do mostly vocal music for several voices, with or without instruments, but still prefer, for a 5-movement 4-voice mass, for instance, one file for the whole work. I agree that that means scrolling a lot in the edit lyrics box, but you can