Re: [Finale] Kiss Me, Kate books

2006-06-22 Thread Raymond Horton
Andrew Stiller wrote: In 1964, we did West Side Story with exactly one line change, altering You came here w. your pants open! to You came here w. your mouth open! ... Since the Clinton years, I think the amended version might be worse. RBH ___

RE: [Finale] Tremolos

2006-06-22 Thread Owain Sutton
If there's many notes shorter than a quaver, three slashed can start to be very cluttered. In those situations, I will reduce to two slashes, but have a 'trem.' instruction at the start of the passage. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [Finale] orchestra parts

2006-06-22 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.06.2006 Godofredo Romero wrote: Office depot carries the Swingline - long reach- stapler which is ideal for this, i used it and are very happy with it. hope this helps. Does it produce flat or curved legs? I have a long-arm stapler, which works ok, but they all produce curved legs as

Re: [Finale] Kiss Me, Kate books

2006-06-22 Thread dhbailey
Raymond Horton wrote: Andrew Stiller wrote: In 1964, we did West Side Story with exactly one line change, altering You came here w. your pants open! to You came here w. your mouth open! ... Since the Clinton years, I think the amended version might be worse. Since the Clinton years,

Re: [Finale] orchestra parts

2006-06-22 Thread dhbailey
Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 21.06.2006 Godofredo Romero wrote: Office depot carries the Swingline - long reach- stapler which is ideal for this, i used it and are very happy with it. hope this helps. Does it produce flat or curved legs? I have a long-arm stapler, which works ok, but they

[Finale] Re: [sibelius-list] Tremolos

2006-06-22 Thread dhbailey
Jamin Hoffman wrote: Dear all - Is the proper way to represent unmeasured tremolos three slashes across the note, regardless of the value of the note? Yes. Any fewer than 3 and they can be misinterpreted as being measured 16th-notes. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Finale] FinWin 2k5 - Expressions signs (f, p, ff etc.) not playing on the assigned note

2006-06-22 Thread Marcello Noia
I notice that assigning any _expression_ sign to a note, the playback starts on the next note. If I assign the _expression_ sign to a rest before that note (when available) playback is ok. What I'm missing? Thank you Marcello ___ Finale mailing

[Finale] Fw: FinWin 2k5 - Expressions signs (f, p, ff etc.) not playing on the assigned note

2006-06-22 Thread Marcello Noia
Forget about it, I forgot to set "attached to note" instead of "attached to measure" Thank you - Original Message - From: Marcello Noia To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: FinWin 2k5 - Expressions signs (f,p,ff etc.) not playing on the assigned note

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 21, 2006, at 9:05 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: And I use a King 2b Liberty (dual .581/.591 bore) You must have meant .481/.491, as .581 is ENORMOUS, like contrabass trombone bore. for jazz leads and a lot of small combo work to blend with (usually) 1 sax or a sax and trumpet - the

[Finale] Finale 2007?

2006-06-22 Thread Steven Gruver
Does anybody know when Finale 2007 will be released? Steve ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Tremolos

2006-06-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 21, 2006, at 10:03 PM, Jamin Hoffman wrote: Dear all - Is the proper way to represent unmeasured tremolos three slashes across the note, regardless of the value of the note? My understanding is that when there are no flags, use three. With one flag or beam, use two (adds up to

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 21, 2006, at 11:50 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: Tchaik 1st trombone parts are written for tenor, as are nearly everything after Brahms. The clefs, as time went on, do NOT always indicate choice of instrument, nor do the names on the part, which were sometimes supplied by the

Re: [Finale] orchestra parts

2006-06-22 Thread Godofredo Romero
straight. gr Lee Actor wrote: Is this a straight long-throw, or a saddle stapler? -Lee Office depot carries the Swingline - long reach- stapler which is ideal for this, i used it and are very happy with it. hope this helps. gr Johannes Gebauer wrote: On

Re: [Finale] orchestra parts

2006-06-22 Thread Godofredo Romero
the flatness or curveness depends on the length of the staples and the quality of the wire used to manufacture them, on the outside of the box of the Swingline there is a recommendation as to which staples to use. gr Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 21.06.2006 Godofredo Romero wrote: Office

[Finale] Shape Expression Editing

2006-06-22 Thread Scot Hanna-Weir
Finalites: Why is it that when you use fixed size fonts in the Shape Expression editing window, that they don't actually display at size. I am trying to create an expression of a double long bracket using two stacked brackets, deleting the hooks in the middle and replacing with a line. This is

Re: [Finale] Shape Expression Editing

2006-06-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 22, 2006, at 10:53 AM, Scot Hanna-Weir wrote: ---And others have the problem where occasionally, when zooming, the display jumps -6000+ coordinates south? That frustrates me too. Oh yeah. They swear that 2007 will address some of these plain old doesn't work bugs. Christopher

[Finale] Medieval Plugin Update

2006-06-22 Thread Scot Hanna-Weir
(I don't think this went through the first time [or the second time], sorry if it is a repeat. It's my last try, I promise) Hello list, A couple of weeks ago I wrote in with some questions about creating medieval (neumes) notation in Finale. (see the thread: [Finale] Neumes/Gregorian Chant

Re: [Finale] Kiss Me, Kate books

2006-06-22 Thread Darcy James Argue
See the prophetic Onion story from Jan 17, 2001: Bush: Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784 - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 22 Jun 2006, at 3:55 AM, dhbailey wrote:

[Finale] Gyorgy Ligeti tribute

2006-06-22 Thread Christopher Smith
For those who are interested. It is strangely moving at the end. http://www.thestandingroom.com/blog/2006/06/in_memoriamgyrg.html Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Medieval Plugin Update

2006-06-22 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 22/06/2006 18:07:00 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (I don't think this went through the first time [or the second time],sorry if it is a repeat. It's my last try, I promise) Have faith my friend, it's getting through! I've had it three times now. :-)

Re: [Finale] Medieval Plugin Update

2006-06-22 Thread Scot Hanna-Weir
Many appologies then! Still getting used to the gmail client. -Scot On 6/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 22/06/2006 18:07:00 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (I don't think this went through the first time [or the second time], sorry if it is

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-22 Thread John Howell
Title: Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs At 11:50 PM -0400 6/21/06, Raymond Horton wrote: Tchaik 1st trombone parts are written for tenor, as are nearly everything after Brahms. The clefs, as time went on, do NOT always indicate choice of instrument, nor do the names on the part, which were

RE: [Finale] Tremolos

2006-06-22 Thread John Howell
As a string player I automatically play anything with 3 strokes tremolo, and automatically assume that anything with fewer is NOT tremolo but is measured. There is a narrow range of tempos and note values in which a measured tremolo is indistiguishable from an unmeasured tremolo.

Re: [Finale] Tremolos

2006-06-22 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jun 21, 2006, at 10:03 PM, Jamin Hoffman wrote: Dear all - Is the proper way to represent unmeasured tremolos three slashes across the note, regardless of the value of the note? Yes. This same notation is also used for wind fluttertongue and percussion rolls. Because of the possibility of

Re: [Finale] Tremolos

2006-06-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 22, 2006, at 2:27 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jun 21, 2006, at 10:03 PM, Jamin Hoffman wrote: Dear all - Is the proper way to represent unmeasured tremolos three slashes across the note, regardless of the value of the note? Yes. This same notation is also used for wind fluttertongue

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 22, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: Another bit of confusion: I think that a lot of the very wide-bore, big-bell btrbs. that some of you have been discussing are the same thing that I have been calling an F contrabass trombone. No, not really. If there is a distinction

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007?

2006-06-22 Thread dhbailey
Steven Gruver wrote: Does anybody know when Finale 2007 will be released? Dennis is right that many know but no-one will tell. It used to happen in September/October, but the past few have been in August, in order to catch the eye of band directors and other school teachers so they can

Re: [Finale] Shape Expression Editing

2006-06-22 Thread dhbailey
Scot Hanna-Weir wrote: Finalites: [snip] the lines to the level of detail you need to connect the brackets anyway. When, dear friends, will Finale update the shape expression editor so that we are not all so sad. Unfortunately, probably not until Sibelius initiates some sort of shape

Re: [Finale] Shape Expression Editing

2006-06-22 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: On Jun 22, 2006, at 10:53 AM, Scot Hanna-Weir wrote: ---And others have the problem where occasionally, when zooming, the display jumps -6000+ coordinates south? That frustrates me too. Oh yeah. They swear that 2007 will address some of these plain old doesn't

[Finale] Hyphens Acting Weird

2006-06-22 Thread Jacki Barineau
Hi, Everyone - for some reason suddenly the hyphens separating syllables are not putting just 1 dash like it usually does, but it's putting 2-3 dashes in between syllables and it looks silly! How can I set this back to just putting 1 dash for each hyphen. I'm not sure what I changed to

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007?

2006-06-22 Thread Robert Patterson
Steven Gruver wrote: Does anybody know when Finale 2007 will be released? If 07 is like past releases, many people outside Makemusic probably know what will be in Fin07, but few if any know when it will be released. ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-22 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jun 21, 2006, at 6:54 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: The addition of a trigger alone does not make the instrument a tenor-bass, as even King 3b's (peashooters) are available with triggers. They are just large-bore tenor trombones, that happen to have an F trigger. The real tenor-bass that

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007?

2006-06-22 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jun 22, 2006, at 12:43 PM, dhbailey wrote: Steven Gruver wrote: Does anybody know when Finale 2007 will be released? Dennis is right that many know but no-one will tell. It used to happen in September/October, but the past few have been in August, in order to catch the eye of band

Re: [Finale] Hyphens Acting Weird

2006-06-22 Thread Scot Hanna-Weir
Jacki: Under Document Options - Lyrics there is a section on hypens. Make sure your Maximum distance between hyphens is set high enough. Finale defaults to about .5 inches, or 36 points. (you can change measurement units at the bottom if yours is displaying in something like EVPUs or another

Re: [Finale] Shape Expression Editing

2006-06-22 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jun 22, 2006, at 12:47 PM, dhbailey wrote: Sign me A 2006 early adopter who still doesn't find GPO any more helpful (especially the saxophones) than the soundfont playback we've had for years. Even Garritan JABB (of which I am a fan and supporter) doesn't do particularly well

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 22, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: but even if it was missing the 2nd trigger (or even a straight horn! I've seen them!) it would still be a bass trombone. A simplex bass trombone is an instrument in F. Did you mean to say G? I thought we had established that the F bass

Re: [Finale] Hyphens Acting Weird

2006-06-22 Thread Michael Cook
Go to Document Options Lyrics and put a large value (something bigger than the width of a system, for instance) in the Maximum Space Between Hyphens box. Michael Cook On 22 Jun 2006, at 22:10, Jacki Barineau wrote: Hi, Everyone - for some reason suddenly the hyphens separating syllables

Re: [Finale] Shape Expression Editing

2006-06-22 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Agreed. There better be some neat stuff in Finale 2007. Like dynamic parts. dhbailey wrote: Addressing them is one thing -- solving them is quite another. We'll just have to wait and see if 2007 is a true notation improvement package or another let's tack on more bright shiny objects to

Re: [Finale] Shape Expression Editing

2006-06-22 Thread Scot Hanna-Weir
I've always wondered why you can't note attach a hairpin like you can a slur. THAT, would be cool.-ScotOn 6/22/06, Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Agreed. There better be some neat stuff in Finale 2007. Like dynamic parts. dhbailey wrote: Addressing them is one thing -- solving them is

Re: [Finale] Shape Expression Editing

2006-06-22 Thread David W. Fenton
On 22 Jun 2006 at 13:40, Chuck Israels wrote: Even Garritan JABB (of which I am a fan and supporter) doesn't do particularly well with saxophones. They have worked long and hard to get good samples, but I think we are used to hearing saxophones played with a higher level of personal

Re: [Finale] Kiss Me, Kate books

2006-06-22 Thread Raymond Horton
In 1964, we did West Side Story with exactly one line change, altering You came here w. your pants open! to You came here w. your mouth open! ... Since the Clinton years, I think the amended version might be worse. Since the Clinton years, everything's been worse. :-( Without a

Re: Sample quality - was [Finale] Shape Expression Editing

2006-06-22 Thread Chuck Israels
Seems like a parallel situation to me, and I wonder if there are significantly better solo string samples. I'm not looking to get into a war about whose are the best - just curious to know if this kind of thing has been solved to a greater degree in string samples than saxophone samples,

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-22 Thread Carl Dershem
Christopher Smith wrote: On Jun 21, 2006, at 9:05 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: And I use a King 2b Liberty (dual .581/.591 bore) You must have meant .481/.491, as .581 is ENORMOUS, like contrabass trombone bore. True. My horns vary a lot, from a .445 trumpthe .508 valve trombone, the .525

Re: [Finale] Hyphens Acting Weird

2006-06-22 Thread Jacki Barineau
Thanks so much for the help! That was just weird because it's never happened before :) - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: Sample quality - was [Finale] Shape Expression Editing

2006-06-22 Thread Darcy James Argue
Well, there is Garritan's solo Strad library, which is pretty good, as far as sampled solo string instruments go. http://www.garritan.com/stradivari.html Of course, it requires impressive playing/programming to be heard to best effect (same as the JABB saxophones), and even given that, the