Do Australians use the British terms (crochet, quaver, semi-quaver,...)
or the metric values?
Johannes
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Mainly British terms, although since a lot of text books / instrument
instructions come from American metric values are also used.
taken from New South Wales 7-10 Music Syllabus - one the outcomes - use
basic traditional music notation, eg semibreve, minim, crotchet, quaver,
lines and spaces;
At 2/12/2007 05:56 PM, Bob Florence wrote:
I trust that I am not breaking any rules with this question.
Is there a Sibelius group like this one?
You may answer privately if you choose.
I believe so. I signed up for it at one point.
They announced a beta test and I signed up for that.
I
I'm pretty verse in Finale '06, but there are a few things I still cannot
figure out:
I am extracting parts for a jazz chart, and when I plant a 1st and 2nd ending
with a repeat, the rests do not come out correctly when I extract the parts.
For example, in a trombone part, it has four bars of
Another question, everyone:
After extracting parts from a jazz chart, there are woodwind changes, where I
need to change the key signature and transpose the written notes with regard to
what instrument the player needs (saxophone, clarinet, flute, or etc.). Anyone
know how to change the key
On 13-Feb-07, at 11:01 AM, Patrick Sheehan wrote:
I'm pretty verse in Finale '06, but there are a few things I still
cannot figure out:
I am extracting parts for a jazz chart, and when I plant a 1st and
2nd ending with a repeat, the rests do not come out correctly when
I extract the
On 13-Feb-07, at 11:06 AM, Patrick Sheehan wrote:
Another question, everyone:
After extracting parts from a jazz chart, there are woodwind
changes, where I need to change the key signature and transpose the
written notes with regard to what instrument the player needs
(saxophone,
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Do Australians use the British terms (crochet, quaver, semi-quaver,...)
or the metric values?
Johannes
Almost all Australians use those terms.
Bruce Petherick (ex Aus now Canadian)
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At 12:06 AM -0500 2/13/07, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Feb 12, 2007, at 10:53 PM, Mark D Lew wrote:
In this particular case I happen to have another problem which I
didn't even bring up: what happens if the singer wants it in a key
that the piano part resists? It turns out that my singer's
In a message dated 2/13/07 10:30:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
One thing that is NOT obvious; if you need to change the height of
the brackets you have to select ALL the handles in BOTH halves of the
ending (and those in the second ending as well!) to keep them aligned
when you drag
On 13-Feb-07, at 11:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/13/07 10:30:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
One thing that is NOT obvious; if you need to change the height of
the brackets you have to select ALL the handles in BOTH halves of the
ending (and those in the second
i particularly enjoyed these bits:
i can make big things, i can make small things...
see there's absolutely no interface... [clicks on menu and view
changes]; 30secs later: as you can see it's a really easy to use
interface
the programme seemed to be limited to what was programmed into its
At 10:50 PM +1100 2/13/07, Trent Johnston wrote:
Mainly British terms, although since a lot of text books /
instrument instructions come from American metric values are also
used.
Pardon, but isn't this a misuse of the word metric? The system
taught in the U.S. is fractional, not metric. I
I think it's a different meaning of the work metric here. Since we label
our note values in powers of 2 we could even call our system logarithmic.
Aaron J. Rabushka
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From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Right--didn't Bach and Shostakovich (among others) make it a point to right
keyboard music in all 24 keys?
Aaron J. Rabushka
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From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007
Pardon, but isn't this a misuse of the word metric? The system
taught in the U.S. is fractional, not metric. I may be wrong, but I
don't believe I've ever seen a decinote, or a centinote, or a
millinote!
continuing the stream of consciousness further off-topic, there was a
brilliant
I'm sure this has been covered on this list in the past, but without
a search option for the archives there's no way to find it!
I'm considering self-publishing many of my arrangements, and while
many are original compositions, most are arrangements of existing
works. Where would one
On 2/13/07, shirling neueweise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the NASA bit - tilting and zooming - you can
already do with google earth and your keyboard, this kind of movement
and interface is NOT new.
Not true. The whole point of the presentation I think, was to remove
steps between the end
It's a touch interface, not a mouse. I think you missed that. It's like
an iPhone. In fact, some people suspect that Apple might have had this
very guy contribute to their phone's interface. Can you use two mice at
the same time like he's doing in the video?
The problem with large
On 13 Feb 2007 at 11:48, John Howell wrote:
How can a piano part resist a key? I can see a pianist without
chops getting upset, but those guys like Chopin and Debussy seemed to
like keys with lots of black keys! I've been told (not a pianist
myself) that C major is the most awkward key for
Weren't the Logarithmics one of those synth bands in the 80s? ;-)
Aaron Rabushka wrote:
I think it's a different meaning of the work metric here. Since we label
our note values in powers of 2 we could even call our system logarithmic.
Aaron J. Rabushka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Metric is correct musically as it has to do with metre, and
mathematically, as it has to do with distance in a metric space. The
term metric does necessarily require decimal divisions or expansions,
nor, for that matter, is musical use limited in principle to duple or
triple divisions and
Bob Shuster wrote:
I'm sure this has been covered on this list in the past, but without a
search option for the archives there's no way to find it!
I'm considering self-publishing many of my arrangements, and while many
are original compositions, most are arrangements of existing works.
I would add to everything David has said that you should not expect quick
replies from the copyright holders.
I am working in England and my comments below refer to one copyright holder
- other copyright holders may work differently.
My experience is that a six month wait for a reply is
dc wrote:
I have a piece in 2/4 with a half note that starts after an eighth note
rest. What's the best way to notate to make it easily readable? Leave
the half note shifted off the beat, or break it down to tied values
(8+4+8)?
I'm confused as to how you can have a half-note which starts
Permission, when granted, comes at a price - they ask for a basic fee then a
percentage of income from intended sales.
this is totally dependant on context and the people / institutions
you are dealing with. i once asked permission to use some text from
a beckett work in a composition
I have a piece in 2/4 with a half note that starts after an eighth
note rest. What's the best way to notate to make it easily readable?
Leave the half note shifted off the beat, or break it down to tied
values (8+4+8)?
half note shifted off-beat!?!? musicians will hate you. they don't
Metric Week:
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday,
Saturday, Sunday.
MBP
continuing the stream of consciousness further off-topic, there was a
brilliant sketch on the decabet, the new 10-letter alphabet - proposed by
tim kazurinsky, early SNL - when
In 2|2, it is perfectly allright wo write 8th rest dotted quarter
because they are both within one beat/tactus.
dc wrote:
shirling neueweise écrit:
if it only happens once, you might prefer:
8th rest + 8th_q_|_8th
Thanks. This is indeed what I did, but on proofreading the score I was
On 13-Feb-07, at 1:59 PM, Michael Pilgrim wrote:
Metric Week:
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Saturday,
Saturday, Saturday, Sunday.
MBP
continuing the stream of consciousness further off-topic, there
was a brilliant sketch on the decabet, the new 10-letter
On 13-Feb-07, at 4:54 PM, dc wrote:
dhbailey écrit:
I'm confused as to how you can have a half-note which starts after
an 8th rest in a 2/4 measure -- that's 2.5 beats right there.
If it's really 2/4 meter then you'd have to do: 8th-rest, 8th-note-
Yeah, that is what I was trying to say.
Dutch. Hm.
Christopher Smith wrote:
I would definitely write it eighth rest, dotted quarter tied to eighth.
No need to show the second quarter in the measure by writing eighth
rest, eighth tied to quarter tied to eighth. But you DO have to see the
Sorry, I missed the word not in my second sentence. It should read:
The term metric does NOT necessarily require decimal divisions or
expansions, nor, for that matter, is musical use limited in principle to
duple or triple divisions and expansions.
Daniel Wolf wrote:
Metric is correct
I would definitely write it eighth rest, dotted quarter tied to
eighth. No need to show the second quarter in the measure by writing
eighth rest, eighth tied to quarter tied to eighth.
totally agree. however, if a large chamber music score, it can be
useful to line up things vertically
And unlike Google earth, he was able to skew the plane of viewing.
ctl-mousedrag i think, i've done it.
all Dr. Han is asking, is there another or a better way to get to
the data and manipulate it.
i am not challenging this; simply saying it isn't the revolution he
makes it out to be.
At 10:32 -0800 2/13/07, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
It's a touch interface, not a mouse.
i did get it, i understand it to be an extension of the mouse
interface: i said it seems to be no more than a mouse on steroids
the way he was using it. certainly more powerful, but nothing more
than a
by the way, to put things in perspective a little, i used a touch
screen as early as 13 years ago as a waiter, the squirrel system.
it was of course pressure-sensitive: when you pressed it with normal
pressure it responded normally and sent your order to the bar or
kitchen, accordingly;
At 01:53 AM 2/14/2007 +0100, shirling neueweise wrote:
by the way, to put things in perspective a little, i used a touch
screen as early as 13 years ago as a waiter, the squirrel system.
Funny that it's been around for quite a while. I gave a talk about this 21
years ago at ID Expo. You'll get
On 14 Feb 2007 at 1:53, shirling neueweise wrote:
by the way, to put things in perspective a little, i used a touch
screen as early as 13 years ago as a waiter, the squirrel system.
it was of course pressure-sensitive: when you pressed it with normal
pressure it responded normally and sent
Well, the Hawaiian language only needs 12 letters, so 10 wouldn't be that
big a stretch...(with 10-tone music not far behind!).
Aaron J. Rabushka
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From: shirling neueweise [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Eurhythmics, perhaps?
Aaron J. Rabushka
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http://users.waymark.net/arabushk
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From: dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] TAN: musical note values in OZ?
Weren't the
Reminds me of the climax of the Mahler 4th Symphony 3rd movement, written to
make it sound like the triangle comes in a smidge late. Percussion players
must hate it.
Aaron J. Rabushka
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From: shirling neueweise
At 08:33 PM 2/13/2007 -0500, David W. Fenton wrote:
Has anyone gotten into mouse gestures? The only program I know that
uses them is Firefox and I don't really understand them, myself, so
I've never tried it out. Anyone?
I tried to use them with Opera, before I went to Firefox. But because I
On 2/13/07, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone gotten into mouse gestures? The only program I know that
uses them is Firefox and I don't really understand them, myself, so
I've never tried it out. Anyone?
There was a browser plug in or maybe even another browser that used
that
Christopher Smith wrote:
As F# and Eb are the least-used notes according to a three-year survey
commissioned by the Minister, they will be the ones to be deleted.
Christopher
Eb is the least used?? Did the survey not include band music? And F#?
They must have forgotten the church
Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
On 2/13/07, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone gotten into mouse gestures? The only program I know that
uses them is Firefox and I don't really understand them, myself, so
I've never tried it out. Anyone?
There was a browser plug in or maybe even
On Feb 13, 2007, at 8:48 AM, John Howell wrote:
How can a piano part resist a key? I can see a pianist without
chops getting upset, but those guys like Chopin and Debussy seemed
to like keys with lots of black keys! I've been told (not a
pianist myself) that C major is the most awkward
I'm with you there!
My picks for least used would have to be the extremes; B# and Fb
BTW- a favourite question for musos Trivia Nights;
Which note in music only has two names?
All others have three- obviously including double sharps and flats.
Cheers, K in OZ
Keith Helgesen.
Ph: (02)
On 14.02.2007 Aaron Rabushka wrote:
Eurhythmics, perhaps?
That is the new European Union standard for musical rhythm. It considers
any note smaller than an eighth to be a click and any note larger than a
half note to be an alarm signal. Since alarm signals are reserved for
police and fire
On 14.02.2007 Aaron Rabushka wrote:
Well, the Hawaiian language only needs 12 letters, so 10 wouldn't be that
big a stretch...(with 10-tone music not far behind!).
So why wasn't Esperanto based on Hawaiian?
Johannes
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