[Finale] Since fin 1.0 and still happy

2007-10-11 Thread Christer Wallstrom
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:49:59 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08 To: finale@shsu.edu Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Daniel Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would it be possible now, from the list membership, to

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Eric Dannewitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think MakeMusic, if the trend continues, is not > going to be the maker > of an excellent notation program. They will be known > for their > SmartMusic stuff, perhaps even changing their name > from MakeMusic (like > they did from Coda to Mak

RE: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Stu McIntire
> It seems that some big-wig at MakeMusic has as his pet hobby-horse > SmartMusic Accompaniment system ... The Boston Globe has a front page story today about how schools all over MA are now using SmartMusic: http://www.boston.com/news/education/k_12/articles/2007/10/11/harried_school s_trumpet_d

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Christopher Smith
On 11-Oct-07, at 12:47 PM, Brian Appleby wrote: [comprehensive stuff snipped] Bottom line is, Finale 2006 does pretty well everything I require. I always thought linked parts would be nice, but I've tried to work with the implementation in 2007 and 2008 a bit, and always decided it wasn'

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:06 PM 10/11/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >"Sibelius crossgrade"? Is that some kind of crossover program between >Finale and Sibelius? Each program can be bought at a discount by owners of the other, with proof of ownership. Sibelius usually sells for $600. Finale owners can normally b

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Randolph Peters
Tyler Turner wrote: Now SmartMusic's growth greatly outpaces Finale's. Growth rates can look impressive when the sample numbers are small. It is always a mistake to assume that early growth rates will be similar in the future in any statistical analysis. MM's notation programs are still by

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread arabushk
"Sibelius crossgrade"? Is that some kind of crossover program between Finale and Sibelius? > Daniel Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Would it be possible now, from the list membership, to get a more >> accurate sense of the number of us who are (a) a long-term, professional >> users of Finale,

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Brian Appleby
I have been a Finale user since Version 1 - my serial number is under 000650. I actually attended a hotel room demo by Phil Farrand at NAMM 1988, before the program was released. So I'm a Finale geezer. I run a small publishing company specializing in young band music - we have a catalog

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread dennis
Eric wrote: > It's good and all that SmartMusic is starting to make them money. It has > it's pluses and minuses, there are a lot of things I like and dislike > about it. But they really shouldn't drop the ball with their flagship > product, especially when all they need to do is fix bugs and compl

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread dhbailey
Tyler Turner wrote: --- dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It seems that some big-wig at MakeMusic has as his pet hobby-horse SmartMusic Accompaniment system and won't allow the resources to be allocated fairly so that Finale's problems can be properly addressed, all the while the accounting

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Tyler Turner wrote: I believe you're going to be pretty surprised by how all this turns out in the future. Take a look at the news from yesterday regarding the success of SmartMusic. The last 3 month quarter saw subscriptions jump from 61,000 to nearly 76,000. As the company predicted, SmartMusic

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Tyler Turner
--- dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems that some big-wig at MakeMusic has as his > pet hobby-horse > SmartMusic Accompaniment system and won't allow the > resources to be > allocated fairly so that Finale's problems can be > properly addressed, > all the while the accounting shows t

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Oh man, I feel soinferior now. shirling & neueweise wrote: Sadly, I think the last tee-shirt was Finale 97 or 98 2004, sleek, black, sexy, i feel like a real man wearing it ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http

[Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Cecil Rigby
Hi all- Daniel Wolf wrote: Would it be possible now, from the list membership, to get a more accurate sense of the number of us who are (a) a long-term, professional users of Finale - I've been a user since version 2, now using 2006b - I've created scores/parts for all sorts o

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Barbara Touburg
dhbailey wrote: Barbara Touburg wrote: I have one! A very large blue one! (guess where it came from - thanks, Carla!) Eric Dannewitz wrote: Or tee-shirts. I need my tee-shirts! You got a T-shirt for your Fin2k8 upgrade? No, YEARS ago, can't remember when. I whined a bit at the Coda

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Andrew Levin
I'm working on a project for A-R Editions. They're sticking with Finale 2006 because of bugs introduced in 2007. Andrew Levin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread David Woodcock
Thought I should contribute as well (a) have been a professional Finale user since 1992, mostly with film and recording orchestras in UK and New Zealand, upgraded faithfully to every version. Last purchase was 2007 (b) very concerned about some bugs, especially flipping accidentals, and disapp

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread dennis
Daniel Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would it be possible now, from the list membership, to get a more > accurate sense of the number of us who are (a) a long-term, professional > users of Finale, (b) have serious concerns about bug fixes, and (c) iare > either skipping an '08 upgrade or switc

[Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Ken Moore
Daniel Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Would it be possible now, from the list membership, to get a more accurate sense of the number of us who are (a) a long-term, professional users of Finale, (b) have serious concerns about bug fixes, and (c) iare either skipping an '08 upgrade or switching

[Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread shirling & neueweise
paul thanks, this is exactly what i think is perhaps our only chance... you are not alone in this position, and by pointing out that you have the power to choose which software company will get this many licences, you give an indication of the importance of MM paying attention to individual p

[Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Paul Witney
I am an avid reader of the Finale list and a (very) occasional contributor. I feel I need to contribute to this post for a number of reasons. I have been using Finale since the late 1990's and was a big supporter, I am a composer and educator and every school I have been in I would make sure they b

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread John Howell
At 6:01 PM -0400 10/10/07, Christopher Smith wrote: On Oct 10, 2007, at 4:43 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: additional weight could be given to such a compilation as you have suggested if responders gave an indication of how many potential finale users they have suggested use sibelius inste

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread shirling & neueweise
Sadly, I think the last tee-shirt was Finale 97 or 98 2004, sleek, black, sexy, i feel like a real man wearing it -- shirling & neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Sadly, I think the last tee-shirt was Finale 97 or 98 dhbailey wrote: Barbara Touburg wrote: I have one! A very large blue one! (guess where it came from - thanks, Carla!) Eric Dannewitz wrote: Or tee-shirts. I need my tee-shirts! ___ Fi

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread dhbailey
Barbara Touburg wrote: I have one! A very large blue one! (guess where it came from - thanks, Carla!) Eric Dannewitz wrote: Or tee-shirts. I need my tee-shirts! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-11 Thread dhbailey
shirling & neueweise wrote: posted the e-mail addresses of the COO, CTO, CEO and several others at MakeMusic and posted a copy of the letter he sent (with CC: to all of them) listing his concerns and complaints and he urged any/all of us to do the same. I did, writing my own letter and sendi