>
> And I'm *still* not sure I grok what's going on in your Ferneyhough
> example. Let me try again:
>
> You've got two notes of equal length in the 2/10 bar -- never mind
> what to call them. Each note gets one beat. The tempo
> indication says
> e=68. Does the tempo indication mean *the
Christopher Smith wrote:
On Mar 23, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hi Owain,
On 23 Mar 2008, at 10:36 AM, Owain Sutton wrote:
incompleteness of tuplets,
using the names for note durations that actually tell you how long
the notes are.
What struck me immediately is Owain
$On 23 Mar 2008 at 20:40, shirling & neueweise wrote:
> guys, really, get over it. this music is playable
It's notational abominations that bother me.
Granted, it's an old notation system being twisted to do things it
wasn't designed for, so that's bound to result in nasty things.
But then wh
On 23 Mar 2008 at 20:40, shirling & neueweise wrote:
> noone faults
> richter for playing insane amounts of wrong notes
Er, yes, many people do -- I do, for one.
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Two places to search:
http://www.opensubscriber.com/messages/finale@shsu.edu/topic.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/finale@shsu.edu/
Hope this helps--
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On Mar 24, 2008, at 4:39 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
Hi all,
Some time ago there was mention of a repair kit for the d
On 24 Mar 2008 at 12:16, shirling & neueweise wrote:
> late mozart string quartet
Your argument would be helped if you didn't repeatedly use this
vastly ignorant turn of phrase.
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On 24 Mar 2008 at 3:31, shirling & neueweise wrote:
> even as far back as chopin we have examples of tuplet values which do
> not necessarily have a clear-cut, unquestionable relationship to the
> metre (22:6/8, for example, or 5-lets in cadences that REALLY do NOT
> function like quintuplets i
Darcy James Argue / 08.3.23 / 6:36 PM wrote:
>Notational convenience, nothing more. The Brazillians wrote their
>bossa novas in 2/4, but all those sixteenth note syncopations were
>hard for American jazz musicians to read, so we renotated them into
>cut time. Doesn't make any difference to h
On Mar 24, 2008, at 9:18 AM, shirling & neueweise wrote:
What struck me immediately is Owain's use of the word "tuplets"
for "non-binary division of the beat" when only a Finale user has
ever heard or would understand such a term.
oops.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuplet
Okay, s
thank you
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> there is a whole generation of musicians who have grown up
> with the possibility of performing his music, and learning it from
> people who had to "figure it out'" themselves.
>
I could not agree more.
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Regarding my suggestion of the solution to the puzzle Darcy posed by
changing key signatures, it occurs to me that to make this to work, at
the point the key signatures change, the tempo also needs to change so
that the dotted quarter of the 12/8 bars equals the quarter of the 4/4
bars.
ns
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Thanks John,
I've been through the archives too, but can't find anything - the subject
line could well be something completely different.
I don't use Internet Explorer and it wasn't on the machine on which I first
had the problem. I do remember that it was something unusual that caused the
Lawrence -
I was trying to find this for you but could not. The problem, as I
recall, relates to Internet Explorer version 7. Either uninstalling
it and/or changing versions seemed to work for people.
Good luck!
On Mar 24, 2008, at 4:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2
> > My theory (and I really miss being able to discuss it with Andrew) is
> > that the return to simplicity and melody in the early 20th century was
> > in reaction to the increasing complexity of late romantic harmony, and
> > that 20th century American popular music was and is the result of that
In a message dated 24/03/2008 20:57:16 GMT Standard Time,
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I see that the archives are separated by month and year, and I have no
idea how long ago this thread was. Any ideas?
I have a similar problem regarding the blue triangular flash which, for some
rea
On 23 Mar 2008, at 5:55 PM, Owain Sutton wrote:
That'd be no deal, anyway - they're not 'quaint', just
historically-informed :p
So historically-informed, in fact, that you insist on calling the note
*without* a hook a "crotchet." Even the French, from whence you stole
the word, get this on
In the origin post for a moment, wherein Darcy asked about "another
way", which question I have not seen an answer to:
I set out to recreate the brief example from Michael Gordon's "Trance"
(great piece, BTW) in Finale -- with correct playback -- and quickly
hit a brick wall.
The rhythm is (
Hi all,
Some time ago there was mention of a repair kit for the duplexer for
the HP 5000 printer. I remember navigating to the page on the HP site
where this kit was listed and seeing it there. (Should have
bookmarked the page! Experience is a hard teacher; first the test;
then the less
John Howell wrote:
My theory (and I really miss being able to discuss it with Andrew) is
that the return to simplicity and melody in the early 20th century was
in reaction to the increasing complexity of late romantic harmony, and
that 20th century American popular music was and is the resul
John Howell wrote:
[snip]> I can agree with that, certainly, but it isn't really the right
starting
point. That starting point has to be the simple question, "what is
there about this music that will make it worth the time and effort to
learn to play it?" (Or sing it, which is an order of mag
At 8:40 PM +0100 3/23/08, shirling & neueweise wrote:
but in case you don't want to take my word for it, check out
arditti's site (as only one example), check out just how much this
music is being performed around the world and compare it to even 10
yrs ago. there is a whole generation of mu
What struck me immediately is Owain's use of the word "tuplets" for
"non-binary division of the beat" when only a Finale user has ever
heard or would understand such a term.
oops.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuplet
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On Mar 23, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hi Owain,
On 23 Mar 2008, at 10:36 AM, Owain Sutton wrote:
incompleteness of tuplets,
using the names for note durations that actually tell you how long
the notes are.
What struck me immediately is Owain's use of the word "tuple
As for the rest of your post, I wish you wouldn't give me credit for
saying things I'm not saying.
darcy, my apologies if that came across as a personal attack, it
wasn't menat that way, it was an attack on the argument itself,
because it is more often than not the only thing that people can
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