Re: [Finale] Finale 2010 vs Sibelius 6 a review

2010-01-18 Thread dhbailey
Steve Currington wrote: Not trying to start a product war but I thought you might be interested in this. whether you agree or disagree is you own judgement.. Whether you needs are different than the reviewer is also over to you to decide for yourself. sonicstrategy.net » Finale 2010 vs

[Finale] Re: Finale 2009/2010 conflicts with Mac standard user accounts

2010-01-18 Thread Ken Parsons
Thanks, Eric, for the advice on the Applescript solution. I'll check it out. My sister-in-law (who's a school-district IS tech) helped me find the answer to the primary problem. After selecting Read and Write for everyone in Sharing and Permissions, I had to click on the Actions button, and

[Finale] Dynamics and grace notes

2010-01-18 Thread Jari Williamsson
Hello! Where should the dynamics be put (horizontally) when the dynamic change is on a note with preceding grace note(s)? Below the main note or below the grace note? Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Dynamics and grace notes

2010-01-18 Thread Ryan
I recommend the main note. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Jari Williamsson jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote: Hello! Where should the dynamics be put (horizontally) when the dynamic change is on a note with preceding grace note(s)? Below the main note or below the grace note?

Re: [Finale] Dynamics and grace notes

2010-01-18 Thread dhbailey
Jari Williamsson wrote: Hello! Where should the dynamics be put (horizontally) when the dynamic change is on a note with preceding grace note(s)? Below the main note or below the grace note? In my experience and opinion, it looks best when put below the main note. I've always

Re: [Finale] Dynamics and grace notes

2010-01-18 Thread J D Thomas
My opinion is that it should be under the grace note, since to me, that's part of the ensuing phrase. But attach it to the main note so as not to have it reduced to 75%. At least on FinMac 2K7. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Jan 18, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: Hello! Where

Re: [Finale] Dynamics and grace notes

2010-01-18 Thread David W. Fenton
On 18 Jan 2010 at 20:30, Jari Williamsson wrote: Where should the dynamics be put (horizontally) when the dynamic change is on a note with preceding grace note(s)? Below the main note or below the grace note? Below the main note. This raises the question of how the new expression handling

[Finale] Symbol for cut measure numbers

2010-01-18 Thread Jari Williamsson
Hello! This is the situation: A part (Tchaikowsky) has a 4 measure cut from the music, so the part goes ...53, 54, 55 and then directly to measure 60. The measure number 60 is notated in the middle of the system where the jump occurs. Is there any standard symbol when measure numbers are cut

Re: [Finale] Dynamics and grace notes

2010-01-18 Thread Jari Williamsson
David W. Fenton wrote: This raises the question of how the new expression handling sizes dynamics. Since note-attached expressions don't exist any more (right?), I assume that you don't have the problem of a dynamic marking attached to a grace note being much smaller than one attached to a

Re: [Finale] Symbol for cut measure numbers

2010-01-18 Thread dhbailey
Jari Williamsson wrote: Hello! This is the situation: A part (Tchaikowsky) has a 4 measure cut from the music, so the part goes ...53, 54, 55 and then directly to measure 60. The measure number 60 is notated in the middle of the system where the jump occurs. Is there any standard symbol when

[Finale] grace notes and reduction Fin2007

2010-01-18 Thread Richard Yates
My opinion is that it should be under the grace note, since to me, that's part of the ensuing phrase. But attach it to the main note so as not to have it reduced to 75%. At least on FinMac 2K7. J D Thomas I have a set of articulations for string numbers made in the shape designer using

Re: [Finale] Symbol for cut measure numbers

2010-01-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Jari, Yes, arrow + number is the way I've always seen this done (for B'way shows, etc). Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://secretsociety.typepad.com On 18 Jan 2010, at 3:35 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote: Hello! This is the situation: A part (Tchaikowsky) has a 4 measure cut from the

Re: [Finale] grace notes and reduction Fin2007

2010-01-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
Use the CombiNumerals font: http://www.fontspace.com/the-fontsite/combinumerals Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://secretsociety.typepad.com On 18 Jan 2010, at 3:07 PM, Richard Yates wrote: My opinion is that it should be under the grace note, since to me, that's part of the ensuing phrase.

RE: [Finale] grace notes and reduction Fin2007

2010-01-18 Thread Richard Yates
Thanks for the link. It comes up infrequently enough that it's not worth changing fonts. Does the same thing happen in later versions than 2007? Use the CombiNumerals font: http://www.fontspace.com/the-fontsite/combinumerals Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://secretsociety.typepad.com

Re: [Finale] Symbol for cut measure numbers

2010-01-18 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Jari: This is the situation: A part (Tchaikowsky) has a 4 measure cut from the music, so the part goes ...53, 54, 55 and then directly to measure 60. The measure number 60 is notated in the middle of the system where the jump occurs. Is there any standard symbol when measure numbers are cut

Re: [Finale] Dynamics and grace notes

2010-01-18 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Jari asked: Where should the dynamics be put (horizontally) when the dynamic change is on a note with preceding grace note(s)? Below the main note or below the grace note? Seems to me the indication of the dynamic change should go at the point in the music at which the dynamic change occurs or

[Finale] Who prints on A3 in US?

2010-01-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, Looks like my parts prep is requiring a bound book parts printed on A3 paper. Anybody in the U.S. have any clue how to accomplish this? I'm in Vermont, and nobody around here has paper wider than 11x17 (much less a printer capable of using it). Any New York folks ever work with A3 (and

OOOPS [was Re: [Finale] Dynamics and grace notes]

2010-01-18 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
I wrote: If the intent is for the change to begin on the principal note, it is inherently misleading to put the indication of the change on the main note. I meant to write, If the intent is for the change to begin on the principal note, it is inherently misleading to put the indication of

Re: [Finale] Symbol for cut measure numbers

2010-01-18 Thread Jari Williamsson
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: The measure number has no particular significance other than being the address (to borrow a computer term) of the measure. The only important consideration is that the measure number of a particular measure should be the same in the score and in all parts. Instead of

Re: [Finale] Who prints on A3 in US?

2010-01-18 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Looks like my parts prep is requiring a bound book parts printed on A3 paper. Anybody in the U.S. have any clue how to accomplish this? I'm in Vermont, and nobody around here has paper wider than 11x17 (much less a printer capable of using it). Any New York folks

Re: [Finale] Symbol for cut measure numbers

2010-01-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
Noel, I don't get the enthusiasm for reinventing the wheel here. This situation pops up in the Broadway pit all the time. The arrow works, and is far more concise than the alternate solutions being proposed. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://secretsociety.typepad.com On 18 Jan 2010, at 4:24

Re: [Finale] Who prints on A3 in US?

2010-01-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Mon, January 18, 2010 5:00 pm, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: A3 paper is a bit larger on the smaller dimension, and a bit narrower on the larger one, so first thing I'd do is ask if they would accept US tabloid size instead of A3. Next, both Wausau and Neenah brand papers are sold in the US in A3

RE: [Finale] Who prints on A3 in US?

2010-01-18 Thread Lee Actor
Have you tried a paper supplier like Xpedx? Unfortunately, the closest one to Vermont appears to be in Wilmington, MA, but maybe there's a different supplier closer to you. You can order so-called parent sheets, which are 25x38, and have them cut to order. A printer that can handle 11x17 should

Re: [Finale] Symbol for cut measure numbers

2010-01-18 Thread John Howell
At 11:02 PM +0100 1/18/10, Jari Williamsson wrote: Noel Stoutenburg wrote: The measure number has no particular significance other than being the address (to borrow a computer term) of the measure. The only important consideration is that the measure number of a particular measure should be

Re: [Finale] Symbol for cut measure numbers

2010-01-18 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Darcy James Argue wrote: Noel, I don't get the enthusiasm for reinventing the wheel here. This situation pops up in the Broadway pit all the time. The arrow works, and is far more concise than the alternate solutions being proposed. Well, I know as much about the conventions in Broadway

Re: [Finale] Symbol for cut measure numbers

2010-01-18 Thread Ray Horton
I would suggest numbering all of the measures around the cut. I think the arrow could help, also. RBH Jari Williamsson wrote: Noel Stoutenburg wrote: The measure number has no particular significance other than being the address (to borrow a computer term) of the measure. The only

Re: [Finale] Who prints on A3 in US?

2010-01-18 Thread Lora Crighton
--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: We're waiting for an answer on accepting the U.S. size, and I know where to get the paper (not cheap, even for standard weight). The question is who PRINTS this size in copy shops? I can't find anybody who has a

Re: [Finale] Who prints on A3 in US?

2010-01-18 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: The question is who PRINTS this size in copy shops? I can't find anybody who has a machine that can accept it. Any equipment that prints 11 x 17 sized paper will also print A3, so if you happen to have a printer which handles 11 x 17 paper, you can a copy

Re: [Finale] Symbol for cut measure numbers

2010-01-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
I was assuming both the measure before and the measure after the cut would be numbered, with the arrow between them. (In B'way music, every measure is numbered.) Including both numbers without the arrow would be confusing. With the arrow, it's perfectly clear what is going on. Cheers, - DJA

Re: [Finale] Who prints on A3 in US?

2010-01-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Thanks everyone ... I'll just have to convince Staples or the UPS Store that their machines really handle it! The reason I'm asking is that this is the first time I've been asked to deliver physical parts in many a year. I just send PDFs and they print to taste; this time, they want paper.

Re: [Finale] Symbol for cut measure numbers

2010-01-18 Thread Jari Williamsson
Darcy James Argue wrote: I was assuming both the measure before and the measure after the cut would be numbered, with the arrow between them. (In B'way music, every measure is numbered.) Including both numbers without the arrow would be confusing. With the arrow, it's perfectly clear what is

Re: [Finale] Dynamics and grace notes

2010-01-18 Thread Harold Owen
I go for the main note. In most cases, I think the grace note would be played slightly softer than the main note (unless it is marked with an accent. However, this would not be true if the grace intended to be played as an appoggiatura in 18th-century style (on the beat). BTW, Finale 2010

Re: [Finale] Who prints on A3 in US?

2010-01-18 Thread João Pais
it might be easier to get someone to print in germany instead. besides saving on postage, you also save on the work involved. Thanks everyone ... I'll just have to convince Staples or the UPS Store that their machines really handle it! The reason I'm asking is that this is the first time

Re: [Finale] Symbol for cut measure numbers

2010-01-18 Thread John Howell
At 9:35 PM +0100 1/18/10, Jari Williamsson wrote: Hello! This is the situation: A part (Tchaikowsky) has a 4 measure cut from the music, so the part goes ...53, 54, 55 and then directly to measure 60. The measure number 60 is notated in the middle of the system where the jump occurs. Is

Re: [Finale] Dynamics and grace notes

2010-01-18 Thread Jari Williamsson
Harold Owen wrote: I go for the main note. In most cases, I think the grace note would be played slightly softer than the main note (unless it is marked with an accent. However, this would not be true if the grace intended to be played as an appoggiatura in 18th-century style (on the beat).