Re: [Finale] bartók pizz. : line up vs. down

2010-11-22 Thread João Pais
for example, not used in bartok string quartets 1 (1908-09) and 2 (1915-17) [don't have 3 (1927) handy] but used in 4th (1928) and onwards. i don't have the 4th handy weither but know the snap pizz is used there for sure. if my memory is right, he used it first in the 3rd sq., but not

{Spam} Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread David H. Bailey
On 11/21/2010 1:43 PM, John Howell wrote: At 7:24 AM -0500 11/21/10, David H. Bailey wrote: I understand the use of clefs to transpose from concert pitch music to the differently keyed transposing instruments, but is there a chart somewhere which does things in reverse? So that looking at a

Re: [Finale] bartók pizz. : line up vs. down

2010-11-22 Thread John Howell
At 11:39 AM +0100 11/22/10, João Pais wrote: for example, not used in bartok string quartets 1 (1908-09) and 2 (1915-17) [don't have 3 (1927) handy] but used in 4th (1928) and onwards. i don't have the 4th handy weither but know the snap pizz is used there for sure. if my memory is right,

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread John Howell
At 6:46 AM -0500 11/22/10, David H. Bailey wrote: What I meant by in reverse is that if I'm looking at a written F in an F horn part, I can use the mezzo-soprano clef to get the concert pitch note (Bb). But what if I'm looking at a concert pitch score, how do I figure out what note the F

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread christopher.smith
I must say, I transpose by solfège (scale degree.) If I see a horn part, say for F horn with no key signature, I see a C then I know it's the first scale degree of the key I'm in, or F. If I see a D#, then I know it's the raised 2nd degree of the key I'm in, so G#. No transposition can throw me

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread Ryan
What method do you use if the horn part doesn't have a key signature? On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:01 AM, christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: I must say, I transpose by solfège (scale degree.) If I see a horn part, say for F horn with no key signature, I see a C then I know it's the first

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread christopher.smith
My method doesn't change. I assume the horn's key signature is C if it doesn't have one, and if it's Horn in E, and the notes written are C D E, that's the 1st, 2nd and 3rd degrees of E major, or E F# G#. Never fails (though it gets a little slow in 16th note passages...) Christopher -

[Finale] Triangle-shaped enclosures

2010-11-22 Thread Matthew Hindson (gmail)
Has anyone experienced any problem with triangle-shaped enclosures not importing correctly into Finale 2010 documents, i.e. where the triangles were created in a previous version. These are expressions. Very annoying. I don't want to have to do all the conductor indications from scratch!