Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread Raymond Horton
I believe he difference there is that all the notes under the big fermata are done by one player or singer, while the accompanist or conductor waits - not dictated by a conductor of a larger group, whose conducting of multiple fermatas will confuse the players who have only one in the part. Write

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 2/10/2012 12:20 PM, John Howell wrote: > And unless you know that you are writing for > musicians who are familiar with new notational > conventions, I would urge you NOT to invent new > signs, or new meanings for old and understood > sings, which then have to be explained in text. > If I came a

[Finale] {Spam} Re: Shape Designer quandry

2012-02-10 Thread John Blane
"Select Font" is available in the Shape Designer menu, but not the Text Menu. On Feb 10, 2012, at 6:01 PM, J D Thomas wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm coming from Finale Mac 2007 to 2011 and I cannot get any access to the > font menu when in Shape Designer. It's always greyed out. I used to be able

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread John Howell
At 4:57 PM +0100 2/10/12, SN jef chippewa wrote: > >i don't see it as too fussy at all to have a fermata on each 16th, >maybe add "(short)" though on the 1st one. but i think molto rit. -- >or, better, molto ritenuto -- might better convey what you want. Aaron did NOT ask for a molto ritard, or

[Finale] Shape Designer quandry

2012-02-10 Thread J D Thomas
Hey all, I'm coming from Finale Mac 2007 to 2011 and I cannot get any access to the font menu when in Shape Designer. It's always greyed out. I used to be able to, but in 2011, no go. Did MM remove this for 2011, or am I just missing something? Thanks. J D Thomas ThomaStudios

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread David H. Bailey
On 2/10/2012 11:54 AM, Steve Parker wrote: > I definitely use one over each. For short > fermata I use triangle ones. > They also look less fussy chained up. > Steve P. > A voice of dissent concerning the use of triangle fermatas -- don't use them, please. Notation programs seem to make them loo

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread David H. Bailey
On 2/10/2012 11:29 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote: > On 2/10/2012 10:57 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote: >>but i think molto rit. -- >> or, better, molto ritenuto -- might better convey what you want. > > I considered that. But an old teacher of mine used to say that one > should take into account those who

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread Robert Patterson
Yeah, that sucks. I was thinking you could individually change the line thickness, but it doesn't work for the slur tool. Grrr. I always use George Crumb style fermatas in these situations, which as it happens are much easier to create. (You can do it with the custom line tool.) But that's not wha

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 2/10/2012 12:17 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > It seems like you could make one in the Shape Designer without too much > trouble (using the slur tool and a dot). The slur tool isn't as thick as I'd like. On the forums, someone did this by stacking several slurs in the shape designer with slight

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread Robert Patterson
It seems like you could make one in the Shape Designer without too much trouble (using the slur tool and a dot). ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread Steve Parker
I definitely use one over each. For short fermata I use triangle ones. They also look less fussy chained up. Steve P. On 10 Feb 2012, at 14:51, Aaron Sherber wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone have any ideas for putting a wide fermata in Finale? > > Example of use: All instruments have a ferm

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Aaron, There isn't any easy way to get a wide fermata -- especially if you want it to be stretchable, or of varying width. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 10 Feb 2012, at 11:54 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote: > On 2/10/2012 11:42 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: >> My

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 2/10/2012 11:42 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > My solution would be molto rit with a fermatta on the last sixteenth for > everyone (so players not playing would have a dotted eight rest followed by a > sixteenth rest w/fermatta. That is fairly standard and unambiguous. You're right -- absolut

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Aaron, My solution would be molto rit with a fermatta on the last sixteenth for everyone (so players not playing would have a dotted eight rest followed by a sixteenth rest w/fermatta. That is fairly standard and unambiguous. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 2/10/2012 10:57 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote: > but i think molto rit. -- > or, better, molto ritenuto -- might better convey what you want. I considered that. But an old teacher of mine used to say that one should take into account those who are not playing as much as those who are playing. F

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread SN jef chippewa
molto rit. for what aaron asks for should be on the 1st 16th of the 4th quarter i don't see it as too fussy at all to have a fermata on each 16th, maybe add "(short)" though on the 1st one. but i think molto rit. -- or, better, molto ritenuto -- might better convey what you want. >It's not wh

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread Ayottemusic
Hi, Aaron. It's not what you asked for, but a fermata on the last sixteenth with a "molto rit." or "directed" might convey the intended effect. Your solution, though, is exactly what I would have tried. Dr. Benjamin Ayotte http://www.ayottemusic.com Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:5

[Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread Aaron Sherber
Hi all, Does anyone have any ideas for putting a wide fermata in Finale? Example of use: All instruments have a fermata on a quarter note, except for one instrument which has 4 sixteenths on that beat. Each sixteenth is meant to be elongated, and in this particular case will be dictated by the