Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread David H. Bailey
On 1/30/2014 11:57 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: I have a problem I just can't figure out. I am using F2014, but it might be the same in earlier releases. My problem is my score has Sign ... To Coda ... D.S. al coda ... Coda. As far as I can tell, all 4 of those marks have exactly the same

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Christopher Smith
Repeats are very buggy as to placement. They shift around according to wind direction, season, or moon phase (actually, I think the measurements change according to staff size, so it only seems arbitrary) and are hard to change without affecting all other instances, as you discovered. If you

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
H. That may account for everything. I'll go back in and test that this afternoon. However, my situation is that I have an 8-bar section between double pars. The To Coda happens at the end of the 7th bar. I want it to show a 7-bar mm rest with the To Coda carefully placed at the

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Christopher Smith
In your case, I would leave the To Coda in place, but hide it (for playback). Then I would add an expression for correct visuals. The expression can be attached to the 8th measure instead, or it can be added to the parts with a metatool, attaching it to the multimeasure rest (Finale thinks that

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Don Hart
I'm on a mac in 2011. I haven't seen the problem of expressions being unmovable in certain parts, but I don't use repeats that often. Maybe that would be affected by checking/unchecking Allow Individual Edits Per Staff in the Text Repeat Assignment window (Edit Repeat Assignment in the contextual

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
It was the multimeasure problem. I'm on Windows, but I assume the same bug exists in Mac. If one of these repeat markers is attached to a measure that is within a mm rest you can't move it, period. This may apply to things other than repeats, but that is my present problem. I was able to

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Thanks for that idea. I'll keep that in the bag of tricks. In this case, I am able to get what I need by breaking the mm rest, moving the To Coda mark, and then recreating the mm rest. In reality, I have decided to through-compose that section anyway now. I am adding an open for solos

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Williams, Jim
Am I missing something here? A to coda instruction should break a mm rest, even if it's the last measure of an mm rest. Maybe that's not the Finale default, but I would break an mm rest for anything like a fermata, to coda, etc. I wrong to do that? Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Don Hart
Craig, I'm still not sure why you're having a problem with this and I'm not. Two simple moves and the part was good to go--could be one move just as easily. Version or platform make a difference, do you think? Don On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Williams, Jim jwilli...@franklincollege.edu

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Let me see if I can explain more clearly. I have an 8-bar section -- bars 50-57 -- where most of the winds are resting. The To coda jump occurs at the end of bar 56. That is where I placed the mark in the score. In the parts that are resting, I expect to see a SEVEN BAR mm rest (50-56)

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
What were your two simple moves? Are you saying that when the To coda mark is within a mm rest, you are able to drag the To coda mark? I cannot. I don't have any reason to suspect this is a new bug. I bet it has been out there forever. But I am running F1400a on Windows 7, FWIW. On

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Don Hart
My two moves after placement were to drag the exp. further to the right (in the score; I see now that they cannot be moved in the part) and to make the mm rest wide enough to avoid collisions. FWIW, you should be able to move the exp. in the score after the part is made and not have to

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Chuck Israels
I'm going to jump in with my 2 cents worth. As usual (maybe always:), Christopher has it right. What Craig describes as looking amateurish and cluttered is built into Finale's way of handling expressions on MM rests. As Christopher points out, Finale only knows how to show an expression as

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Don Hart
Sorry, Chuck, Craig, I was confusing in my last post. Craig's initial question was about text repeats and I wrongly started calling them expressions. My bad. - Don On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: I'm going to jump in with my 2 cents worth. As usual

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 1/31/2014 3:58 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: if an expression in the score is attached to the last measure of a MM rest, it will appear in the part only if that last measure is broken off This is not actually what I am seeing with F2014a. My To Coda is attached to measure 56. There are double

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 1/31/2014 3:58 PM, Don Hart wrote: FWIW, you should be able to move the exp. in the score after the part is made and not have to break/re-create mm rests Not in my case, I don't think. I have this To coda mark assigned to the top staves only. This is the default and a good one. I hate

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Don Hart
Have you set a staff list for it? I get handles for the markings that only show in parts and can adjust position independently in the score if Allow Individual Edits Per Staff is checked. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.comwrote: On 1/31/2014 3:58 PM, Don Hart

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Lawrence Yates
Is the failure of the repeat text to appear in the part not the same problem I had the other week? Go into the Staff tool, double click on the staff and in the resulting dialogue box check endings and text repeats Cheers, Lawrence On 31 January 2014 22:00, Don Hart donhartmu...@gmail.com

Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

2014-01-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
On 1/31/2014 5:03 PM, Lawrence Yates wrote: Is the failure of the repeat text to appear in the part not the same problem I had the other week? Go into the Staff tool, double click on the staff and in the resulting dialogue box check endings and text repeats The repeat markers ARE appearing