Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-07 Thread Eric Fiedler
As a matter of fact, the comma _after_ the word extension is not only more logical, as Daniel has pointed out, but also standard practice in Bärenreiter's Telemann Edition (which is what I happen to have open at the moment) and (probably) also the NBA (the publications, not the teams!). So it

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-07 Thread Chuck Israels
When I need a breath mark (a high-flying comma as an articulation) to appear at the end of a measure - perhaps a measure with a whole note where the breath mark would normally appear immediately after the note, I use an invisible smart line to position the articulation where it looks logical to

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-07 Thread John Howell
At 6:49 PM +0200 8/7/11, Eric Fiedler wrote: As a matter of fact, the comma _after_ the word extension is not only more logical, as Daniel has pointed out, but also standard practice in Bärenreiter's Telemann Edition (which is what I happen to have open at the moment) and (probably) also the

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-07 Thread John Howell
At 8:11 AM -0700 8/7/11, Mark D Lew wrote: I agree with Daniel on this, and I was a little surprised to see so many people say or imply this is unorthodox. I've seen plenty of old sources that put the comma after the word extension, and I prefer it. I also had a regular client who asked for

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-07 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, August 7, 2011 12:50 pm, John Howell wrote: Some publishers still use individual flags rather than beaming in vocal music, and some singers actually like it that way! Yeah, my singer for the lead in Erzsébet likes it that way and was mightily irritated that I'd provided the score with

[Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-04 Thread Daniel Wolf
Finale 2011, Windows. I'd like have punctuation marks follow word extensions in lyrics (i.e. line ends with this word_,) , but Finale seems to really wants to keep commas etc. attached to the word before and have the word extension follow the punctuation mark. Obviously I'm

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-04 Thread Steve Parker
I'm interested in why? My kludgy solutions would be: Make smart shapes of line-comma, line-fullstop etc. and use these. Or Insert the commas and full stops in another layer. Steve P. On 4 Aug 2011, at 15:22, Daniel Wolf djw...@snafu.de wrote: Finale 2011, Windows. I'd like have

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, August 4, 2011 10:22 am, Daniel Wolf wrote: Finale 2011, Windows. I'd like have punctuation marks follow word extensions in lyrics (i.e. line ends with this word_,) , but Finale seems to really wants to keep commas etc. attached to the word before and have the word extension

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-04 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Putting the punctuation after the word extension is sufficiently non-standard that I'm really not surprised that Finale doesn't support the practice. But I'd add to Steve Parker's workarounds, hard-coding word extensions using the underscore (_) character, and place the punctuation at the end

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Here's a sample using the non-breaking space: http://maltedmedia.com/images/finale/danieltext.jpg On Thu, August 4, 2011 11:13 am, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Thu, August 4, 2011 10:22 am, Daniel Wolf wrote: Finale 2011, Windows. I'd like have punctuation marks follow word extensions in

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-04 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Space as usual, and for the last syllable before the comma, use a hard (non-breaking) space (ALT+0160) and then type the comma. but wouldn't this result in the word extension still following the punctuation? ns ___

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, August 4, 2011 11:50 am, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Space as usual, and for the last syllable before the comma, use a hard (non-breaking) space (ALT+0160) and then type the comma. but wouldn't this result in the word extension still following the

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-04 Thread Daniel Wolf
On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:00:03 +0200, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote: I'm interested in why? Common practice or not (and I have found enough counter examples in my library to call the common practice into question), it makes some syntactic sense that the comma (or semi-comma) does not occur

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-04 Thread John Howell
At 8:13 PM +0200 8/4/11, Daniel Wolf wrote: On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:00:03 +0200, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote: I'm interested in why? Common practice or not (and I have found enough counter examples in my library to call the common practice into question), it makes some syntactic sense that

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

2011-08-04 Thread John Howell
At 4:22 PM +0200 8/4/11, Daniel Wolf wrote: Finale 2011, Windows. I'd like have punctuation marks follow word extensions in lyrics (i.e. line ends with this word_,) , but Finale seems to really wants to keep commas etc. attached to the word before and have the word extension follow