I need to show two different bar lines in two different staves in the same
measure. The staves are grouped together. The measure attributes will change
all of the bar lines in the same way and it looks like there's no way to create
a staff style with such a behavior. Is there any way to
Crikey! I cancelled all the recipient addresses except for the finale@shsu.edu.
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Giovanni Andreani
www.giovanniandreani.eu
Le 18/01/2012 09:45, Giovanni Andreani écrit :
I need to show two different bar lines in two different staves in the
I apologize for the double thread; I'm reposting this message thank's to
Dennis' advice about not clicking on an old thread for creating a new one.
I need to show two different bar lines in two different staves in the same
measure. The staves are grouped together. The measure attributes will
As always with my replies, someone will reply afterwards with a proper
solution... ;-)
I just use smart-shape lines to do this.
Steve Parker
On 18 Jan 2012, at 10:30, Giovanni Andreani wrote:
I apologize for the double thread; I'm reposting this message thank's to
Dennis' advice about not
For the moment all I can think of is this:
Hide certain bar lines with a staff style, then replace them with graphic bar
lines created with the Expression tool.
Michael
On 18 Jan 2012, at 11:30, Giovanni Andreani wrote:
I apologize for the double thread; I'm reposting this message thank's
Hi Giovanni,
I think the only way is to create a large measure, then add in the barlines as
expressions. I think recent versions of Finale already have barlines created as
expressions for this purpose.
You might have to mess around with music spacing to recreate the space after a
barline
There are so many kluges.
For many measures that need separate barlines, I use barlines as lyrics and
type them in.
Dennis
On Wed, January 18, 2012 6:02 am, Christopher Smith wrote:
Hi Giovanni,
I think the only way is to create a large measure, then add in the barlines as
expressions. I
for this, i would also *definitely* use a shape expression (and
regularly do). set its positioning in relation to the right barline.
don't use a smart shape, if the measure width and / or layout is
changed, the vertical angle (whcih you hope is 90 degrees) may
change, and then you may have
It depends on exactly what you need to do. You can hide barlines with a
staff style, then override them with group barlines. In most cases where I
have needed to do this I have not had to resort to expressions except on
single staves. For single staves, the barline symbols in the Sonata font
come
Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll try to use a shape expression, as Jef
Chippewa suggests.
The reason for this is that I need to represent two melodies, the second being
performed as a canon and starting on measure 2 with measure 1 hidden, thus
ending one measure later, showing a double bar
Wha...?
My mind is boggling right now. This means that you need to enter an entry (note
or rest) to attach the lyric, that is then hidden, and affects music spacing in
the staves that DON'T have a barline at the same place. My solution for added
space using blank articulations means that the
May I don't grasp the original post. It sounds like he needs staggered
barlines (as I think we used to call them). For this, hiding 'real' barlines
and using barlines as lyrics means they can space themselves the same in all
parts they affect. It doesn't work in every situation, though. I've used
ah! right, never thought of using the / character (engraverfontset
24 pt) for a barline as a text expression but it could be done that
way too quite well. but it is way too thin for me, i just tested
and it seems to be 3.125 EVPUs thin (yuck). but i suppose if you use
the finale
In this case (and given that the piece is not too long), I would enter all on
one line.
It requires planning how many bars per system.
I then would enter say 6 bars of part 1 followed by 5 bars of part two.
All the music in the middle can be entered normally and then the opposite at
the end.
No, I think you got it. And I just got it, too—by nudging the lyric barline you
don't need an extra entry. But you need at least ONE entry in the measure to
attach the lyric barline to. If a part has rests, it isn't possible. Or is it?
Christopher
On Wed Jan 18, at WednesdayJan 18 8:32 AM,
Rests? What are rests? OOOH, those things performers tell me I use too few of.
:)
Seriously, I don't recall how I handled those things... haven't done it in a
while, certainly way before linked parts (and probably many other recent
Finale developments that have made difficult things easier).
On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
No, I think you got it. And I just got it, too—by nudging the lyric barline
you don't need an extra entry. But you need at least ONE entry in the measure
to attach the lyric barline to. If a part has rests, it isn't possible. Or is
it?
Note, also, that there is all the difference on the world (according to Finale)
between a rest that you enter and a rest that it generates to fill empty
measures.
Dr. Benjamin Ayotte
http://www.ayottemusic.com
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On Jan 18, 2012, at 14:56, Mark D Lew markd...@earthlink.net
On Wed Jan 18, at WednesdayJan 18 2:56 PM, Mark D Lew wrote:
On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
No, I think you got it. And I just got it, too—by nudging the lyric barline
you don't need an extra entry. But you need at least ONE entry in the
measure to attach the lyric
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