Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-08-01 Thread Blake Richardson
From: dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:40:46 -0400 To: Subject: Re: [Finale] Digital music stands > Actually, many (most?) of the EULAs that I've actually read > through have included text to the effect that I have a right > to make a backup

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-08-01 Thread dhbailey
Blake Richardson wrote: From: John Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:17:55 -0400 To: Subject: Re: [Finale] Digital music stands And I'd really like to know where, in what version of "Fair Use," you find permission for "the user to

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-31 Thread Blake Richardson
From: John Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:17:55 -0400 To: Subject: Re: [Finale] Digital music stands > And I'd really like to know where, in what version of "Fair Use," you > find permission for "the user to make a back-up copy.&

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-30 Thread John Howell
At 6:48 AM -0400 7/30/08, Blake Richardson wrote: Well, the reality is that in every band and orchestra I've ever played with, the librarian *does* photocopy all the parts before handing them out. They keep the originals in the library so if one of the musicians loses their music at some point,

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Blake Richardson wrote: [snip]> paying for the rights to copy the parts in that manner. Whether that's legal or not (the Fair Use doctrine-- which allows the user to make a back-up copy-- would seem to suggest that it is) While I agree that organizations do that all the time, there is nothing

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-30 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: [snip of good clarification of copyright issues] And are you aware that by far the majority of orchestral music is available only on rental? [snip] I just want to clarify this remark in an otherwise clear reply -- the majority of *newer* (read that as copyrighted) orchestra

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-30 Thread dhbailey
James Gilbert wrote: Shows you what I know about orchestras. I thought the players kept their music from rehearsal to rehearsal so they could practice. Since they don't, it makes no since to go digital until the way orchestras operate with regard to music changes. (That is, until the players keep

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-30 Thread dhbailey
James Gilbert wrote: [snip] The cost of the units are starting to come down in price, but they still are too high. If one can buy Finale at full cost or Adobe CS Photoshop at full cost, they can afford one of those units. I'm not sure the Kindle type of units (Amazon) would work too well with mu

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-30 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the cost issues could be resolved this technology holds a lot of promise. Many orchestras have corporate sponsors and I can see a tie-in developing where the company that develops the technology is also a sponsor of the orchestra. The "ePaper" technology that is used

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands (now totally TAN)

2008-07-30 Thread dhbailey
Randolph Peters wrote: Robert Patterson wrote: Speaking of digital music stands. Losing power is a non-issue. I've been in concerts and rehearsals when the power went out, and believe me the show did *not* go on. And this was with good old-fashioned Manhassetts. (Remember that thing we need

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-30 Thread Blake Richardson
From: John Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:47:53 -0400 To: Subject: RE: [Finale] Digital music stands > And something no one has even mentioned is this: How is the music of > many different publishers, in different countries all over the world, >

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-30 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.07.2008 James Gilbert wrote: Someone mentioned that orchestras would need to hook the units up to a network. Other than the simplicity of loading the music into the units prior to rehearsing, why would they need to be part of a network in rehearsal or performance? What's the advantage or re

RE: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-29 Thread John Howell
At 8:02 PM -0400 7/29/08, James Gilbert wrote: This is getting way off topic for the list. My last comments. As to the source of digital music. There is a publisher that has over 80,000 titles available in the freehand music, music pad format. I also sell many of my own arrangements in that form

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-29 Thread Ray Horton
No, it is not a bad idea, and it's day will probably come. Already there are a few traveling shows out there that use the technology, but in traveling shows, nobody practices the music at the hotel, they go there to get away from the show they play 8 times a week. Allowances have to be made i

RE: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-29 Thread James Gilbert
This is getting way off topic for the list. My last comments. I should of said that I was being a bit sarcastic in my previous comments about orchestras and music stands. The technology and, I think in the world of music, many musicians are many years behind the rest of the public when it comes to

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-29 Thread Ray Horton
James Gilbert wrote: Shows you what I know about orchestras. I thought the players kept their music from rehearsal to rehearsal so they could practice. Since they don't, Many do, many don't. Depends on the gig and the player. I would assume any digital library system would allow access

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-29 Thread Ray Horton
I assumed that this future digital technology would NOT be propitiatory, so the musician could view it at home on his/her home computer. Forget each orchestra member buying a digital music stand for home to practice orchestra parts - that just ain't happenin.' RBH John Howell wrote: At 3

RE: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-29 Thread John Howell
At 3:49 PM -0400 7/29/08, James Gilbert wrote: Shows you what I know about orchestras. I thought the players kept their music from rehearsal to rehearsal so they could practice. Most do. Some may not. But if they do, that only expands the present technological problems. How would the player

RE: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-29 Thread James Gilbert
Shows you what I know about orchestras. I thought the players kept their music from rehearsal to rehearsal so they could practice. Since they don't, it makes no since to go digital until the way orchestras operate with regard to music changes. (That is, until the players keep their music and be res

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-29 Thread Robert Patterson
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:59 PM, James Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Other than the simplicity of loading the music into the units prior > to rehearsing, why would they need to be part of a network in rehearsal or > performance? Isn't that enough? Right now a librarian drops a folder on eve

RE: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-29 Thread James Gilbert
I've been using a MusicPad display unit for nearly 6 years and prefer it to printed music, especially when I have the foot pedal hooked up and can use it to turn pages. (I'm a pianist & organist). In fact, I do not buy printed music anymore unless I can't find it in musicpad format. The battery lif

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands (now totally TAN)

2008-07-29 Thread Randolph Peters
Robert Patterson wrote: Speaking of digital music stands. Losing power is a non-issue. I've been in concerts and rehearsals when the power went out, and believe me the show did *not* go on. And this was with good old-fashioned Manhassetts. (Remember that thing we need called light?) [snip]

Re: [Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-29 Thread toronado455
If the cost issues could be resolved this technology holds a lot of promise. Many orchestras have corporate sponsors and I can see a tie-in developing where the company that develops the technology is also a sponsor of the orchestra. The "ePaper" technology that is used for devices like the Amazon

[Finale] Digital music stands

2008-07-29 Thread Robert Patterson
Speaking of digital music stands. Losing power is a non-issue. I've been in concerts and rehearsals when the power went out, and believe me the show did *not* go on. And this was with good old-fashioned Manhassetts. (Remember that thing we need called light?) The biggest impediment for at le