Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-07-13 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Personally I would appreciate if my various plug-in vendors all supplied VST3 implementations.  It makes things cleaner.  That isn't just a Dorico issue.  VST2 will soon have its 20th birthday.  VST3 has been out there almost a decade.  It is high time that vendors move forward. By the same to

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-07-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, July 12, 2018 1:45 pm, Steve Schow wrote: > Steinberg has had a strict stance > on copy protection for a very long time with Cubase and has documented very > well that this is just how it is, and how it will always be. Of course of > Steinberg goes out of business, which is unlikely to hap

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-07-12 Thread Steve Schow
That is very very unlikely to ever change. Steinberg has had a strict stance on copy protection for a very long time with Cubase and has documented very well that this is just how it is, and how it will always be. Of course of Steinberg goes out of business, which is unlikely to happen any tim

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-07-04 Thread David H. Bailey
On 7/3/2018 10:47 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: [snip]> Similarly, most of the appearance-related things are controlled by rules (aka preferences).  They are extraordinarily numerous.  I think Dorico has broken new ground in organizing vast numbers of options. Practically all of the options are di

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-07-03 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Regarding the questions about Dorico support and how typical this is of Steinberg in general, I'd say Dorico is the anomaly here. Steinberg has a reputation for being a bit arrogant.  As a relatively recent Cubase user, I'll say that I didn't find Steinberg warm and fuzzy, but there are enough

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-07-03 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I agree with everything David has said, especially "Dorico is not for everybody."  Certainly there are some rough spots and missing pieces that are deal breakers for some people today.  My personal deal-breakers were addressed in 2.0, but others have different needs.  And even if Dorico could d

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-07-03 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Tue, July 3, 2018 1:53 pm, David H. Bailey wrote: > 1) Very strict anti-piracy! Yes, this is the deal-breaker for me. No company is trustworthy, especially about their future, and Steinberg's continued use of user-punishing protection is unacceptable. I don't use any of their protected products

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-07-03 Thread David H. Bailey
y things (including layout) better and will save a lot of time. However, for me, I must have slash notation and rhythmic notation because mostly I do jazz band arrangements.  And those things were not there in Dorico 1.  The final release of Dorico 1 included chord symbols, and they did a f

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-07-03 Thread Lawrence David Eden
how well the music layout >> happened, almost completely automatically. I find myself spending many >> hours fiddling with Finale parts to get them to lay out reasonably. It is >> clear to me that Dorico does many things (including layout) better and will >> save a lot o

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-07-03 Thread Craig Parmerlee
ut) better and will save a lot of time. However, for me, I must have slash notation and rhythmic notation because mostly I do jazz band arrangements.  And those things were not there in Dorico 1.  The final release of Dorico 1 included chord symbols, and they did a fantastic job with that

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-06-01 Thread Craig Parmerlee
t have slash notation and rhythmic notation because mostly I do jazz band arrangements.  And those things were not there in Dorico 1.  The final release of Dorico 1 included chord symbols, and they did a fantastic job with that -- much more coherent than Finale. Dorico 2 adds slash and rhythmic

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-05-31 Thread David H. Bailey
David's post here could almost have been written by me (except that I only started using Finale at version 3.5). I bought version 1 of Dorico, and I immediately purchased version 2. What I find interesting is that there are parallels in the development of Dorico and the development of Sibeliu

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-05-31 Thread Doug Walter
I’m not anywhere near switching, but I’ve been following Dorico’s development with more than a little interest. Such informative posts like this one are quite useful and much appreciated - thanks for such a detailed, well-thought-out, well-stated comparison and review. Doug > On May 31, 2018,

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-05-31 Thread dfr...@smcm.edu
I bought Dorico when it came out, and have been learning it, on and off. Generally, I’ve stopped when I encounter a problem, confirm with John Barron or Daniel Spreadbury that my problem is something not yet addressed. Then, when an update comes out (there have been 3 or 4 free updates — this on

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-05-31 Thread Robert Patterson
I mean, Finale is capable of producing all the results shown in the "Smart Staff Management" video. But the U.I. for doing it can be quite laborious. On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Will Roberts wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Sure, I found it here: > > https://www.dorico.com/new-in-2/ > > Looks like

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-05-31 Thread Will Roberts
Hi Robert, Sure, I found it here: https://www.dorico.com/new-in-2/ Looks like it's on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp8qDzPA77A I also saw some worked-through examples in the review on Scoring Notes.com. I'm right in saying that Finale has nothing like this, right? Or did I mi

Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

2018-05-31 Thread Robert Patterson
Could you send a link to the demo? I would be interested in seeing how sting divisi are handled. On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 5:11 AM, Will Roberts wrote: > Did anybody else get an email from Steinberg yesterday about the new > version of Dorico? I tried the first version out about a year ago but > d

[Finale] Dorico 2

2018-05-31 Thread Will Roberts
Did anybody else get an email from Steinberg yesterday about the new version of Dorico? I tried the first version out about a year ago but didn't buy it at the time. Interested to check it out again now. The main new features are for composing to picture and playback automation, which doesn't i