Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Ken Durling
At 05:51 PM 7/5/2005, you wrote: But if it were truly a linked part (a view of the score), it would be verrry interesting. That's exactly what it is. Ken ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Jul 2005 at 20:46, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > At 08:40 PM 7/5/05 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: > >That is, by contemplating switching to Sibelius, aren't you > >contemplating getting yourself into a much worse situation than you > >are with activated Finale? > > Yup. And at my age and ex

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:10 AM 7/6/05 +0100, Owain Sutton wrote: >Another observation - if Finale implemented a score-part link that was >anything like part extraction, I'd simply not use it, because it >wouldn't do what I needed. I always end up making parts by deleting >staves manually from the score. What extr

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:40 PM 7/5/05 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: >That is, by contemplating switching to Sibelius, aren't you >contemplating getting yourself into a much worse situation than you >are with activated Finale? Yup. And at my age and experience with Finale, there would really have to be a good reaso

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Jul 2005 at 20:24, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > At 08:05 PM 7/5/05 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: > >Er, doesn't Sibelius have a little copy protection/activation code > >problem that ought to prevent you from switching, given that you > >won't upgrade past Finale 2003? > > Yes, David, you'v

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:05 PM 7/5/05 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: >Er, doesn't Sibelius have a little copy protection/activation code >problem that ought to prevent you from switching, given that you >won't upgrade past Finale 2003? Yes, David, you've caught me in a distasteful ethical compromise, and it embarra

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Owain Sutton
Ken Durling wrote: At 05:05 PM 7/5/2005, you wrote: Feathered beams - do you mean accel/decell angled beams, or something else? Yes, that's what I mean. You can do them in Sib with a simple line tool. So they don't play back unless you're willing to build up a complex set of nested tu

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:55 PM 7/5/05 -0700, Ken Durling wrote: >It has always seemed to me that if one is willing to forego playback, then >a suite of purely graphic tools could be included that would make much of >this possible. Sibelius has the "Symbols" menu which does do this, but I >think what it needs is

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Ken Durling
At 05:05 PM 7/5/2005, you wrote: Feathered beams - do you mean accel/decell angled beams, or something else? Yes, that's what I mean. You can do them in Sib with a simple line tool. So they don't play back unless you're willing to build up a complex set of nested tuplets. Ken _

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Owain Sutton
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: You button-presser you. Ouch. That hasn't changed since I started with Finale back in FinWin2.2! I try to please ;) Actually, I've used Finale for so long that I can do graphical stuff fairly quickly -- and that's where the conversion to Sibelius fails. I mis

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Owain Sutton
Ken Durling wrote: Dennis - ' I think this - graphic notation - is still one of Sib's weaknesses, and is likely to remain so although I have found a number of work-arounds. It's one of the reasons I'm trying to find time to learn Finale. My stuff isn't all *that* wild, but I do use proport

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Jul 2005 at 19:40, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > At 06:56 PM 7/5/05 -0400, dhbailey wrote: > >Sibelius 4 has been announced, and one aspect which we have clamored > >for on this list for years is in their list of added features: > >Dynamic linking of parts to the score. > > Ooh, baby, b

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:47 AM 7/6/05 +0100, Owain Sutton wrote: > > >Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: >> All Sibelius has to do is make it possible to do contemporary >> scores easily > >Heh...that's all I want from Finale, too. > >Hasn't Sibelius had straightforward quarter-tones for some time? And I >presume Finale 0

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Jul 2005 at 18:56, dhbailey wrote: > Sibelius 4 has been announced, and one aspect which we have clamored > for on this list for years is in their list of added features: > Dynamic linking of parts to the score. Apparently you only have to > change things in the score, and the changes are r

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Ken Durling
Dennis - ' I think this - graphic notation - is still one of Sib's weaknesses, and is likely to remain so although I have found a number of work-arounds. It's one of the reasons I'm trying to find time to learn Finale. My stuff isn't all *that* wild, but I do use proportional notation, improv

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Owain Sutton
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: All Sibelius has to do is make it possible to do contemporary scores easily Heh...that's all I want from Finale, too. Hasn't Sibelius had straightforward quarter-tones for some time? And I presume Finale 06 will still feature the 'nonstandard key signature' non

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:56 PM 7/5/05 -0400, dhbailey wrote: >Sibelius 4 has been announced, and one aspect which we have clamored for >on this list for years is in their list of added features: Dynamic >linking of parts to the score. Ooh, baby, baby, baby. I'm one of the clamorers. I'm now 90% of the way to

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Owain Sutton
John Bell wrote: I know that many users are unconcerned about playback, but others are. If Finale were to fall far behind Sibelius in its playback capabilities then it would certainly be in danger of losing much of its share of the market. *Which* market? Both products are targeted

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Ken Durling
I don't know how well this Dynamic linking thing will work, but it i definately a feature to consider if one wants to switch from Finale.. ___ I've been able to try out a preview of Sib 4, and so far the dynamic parts feature works very well.

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread John Bell
On 5 Jul 2005, at 23:56, dhbailey wrote: Sibelius 4 has been announced, and one aspect which we have clamored for on this list for years is in their list of added features: Dynamic linking of parts to the score. Some may have clamoured for it, not me. If Finale doesn't start listening to

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Owain Sutton
dhbailey wrote: I agree with everything you said. MM don't seem to have a clue what their target markets (definitely plural) are. Sibelius is very clearly targeting these markets. Whether it's a better tool for what the people on this list need to do is irrelevant - market economics

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread Eric Dannewitz
dhbailey wrote: Sibelius 4 has been announced, and one aspect which we have clamored for on this list for years is in their list of added features: Dynamic linking of parts to the score. Apparently you only have to change things in the score, and the changes are reflected in the parts. I k

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-05 Thread dhbailey
Sibelius 4 has been announced, and one aspect which we have clamored for on this list for years is in their list of added features: Dynamic linking of parts to the score. Apparently you only have to change things in the score, and the changes are reflected in the parts. I know no more about

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