In which case it would be wise to include a treble clef E flat part
(transposed up a sixth plus an octave) in addition to the other parts.
Jonathan
Ah but in this case, I wouldn't want a tuba sound to play sax
music. I'm
better off supplying a real transposed tuba part. (The Bari Sax and
T
Ah but in this case, I wouldn't want a tuba sound to play sax music. I'm
better off supplying a real transposed tuba part. (The Bari Sax and Tuba
don't always play the same music...)
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jonathan Smith wrote:
> Yes, because as I mentioned, that part would be the same
Yes, because as I mentioned, that part would be the same as the E
flat Bari Sax part. They usually include both instrument names at the
top of the part.
Jonathan
On 12 May 2010, at 19:00, requ...@shsu.edu> wrote:
Thanks for that valuable info. In your Tuba list, you didn't
include Eb
T
Thanks for that valuable info. In your Tuba list, you didn't include Eb
Treble Clef. Was that intentional?
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Jonathan Smith wrote:
> Hi Ryan,
>
> I direct a band here in France and play Euphonium in 2 others, so I have
> first hand experience about the transposition
Hi Ryan,
I direct a band here in France and play Euphonium in 2 others, so I
have first hand experience about the transposition of Tubas &
Euphoniums.
There are very few players who are taught to read in C (Ut), non
transposed, concert pitch, although most modern editions for both
Euph
, Williams, Jim wrote:
> From: Williams, Jim
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: Tuba Transposition
> To: "finale@shsu.edu"
> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 3:20 PM
> [humor] OK, there seems to be some
> offense here that I called the
> thing an octave key. Perh
alve would
have
to be as long as the open bugle. It isn’t so.
Klaus
--- On Tue, 5/11/10, Williams, Jim
wrote:
From: Williams, Jim
Subject: Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: Tuba Transposition
To: "finale@shsu.edu"
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 5:02 AM
To me it is an octave key in that low
r
ngth of the open bugle and lowers
>>> the instrument the interval of a fourth. The sum of a fifth and a
>>> fourth happens to be an octave but that doesn’t make the 4th val
>>> ve a
>>> n octave valve. The visual proof is, that an octave valve would have
>>&g
ng as the open bugle. It isn’t so.
Klaus
--- On Tue, 5/11/10, Williams, Jim
wrote:
From: Williams, Jim
Subject: Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: Tuba Transposition
To: "finale@shsu.edu"
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 5:02 AM
To me it is an octave key in that low
register.
Look at the fingering
5/11/10, Williams, Jim
> wrote:
>
>> From: Williams, Jim
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: Tuba Transposition
>> To: "finale@shsu.edu"
>> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 5:02 AM
>> To me it is an octave key in that low
>> register.
>> Look
rom: John Howell
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: Tuba Transposition
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 6:21 AM
> Hi, Klaus. I believe that he
> was saying that without a compensating system the lowest
> notes combining all 4 valves will be sharp, similar to the
From: Williams, Jim
Subject: Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: Tuba Transposition
To: "finale@shsu.edu"
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 5:02 AM
To me it is an octave key in that low
register.
Look at the fingering:
Eb 1 low eb 1-4
d 1-2 low d 1-2-4
Db 2-3 low db 2-3-4
c 1-3 low c 1-3-4
B 1
isn’t so.
Klaus
--- On Tue, 5/11/10, Williams, Jim wrote:
> From: Williams, Jim
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: Tuba Transposition
> To: "finale@shsu.edu"
> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 5:02 AM
> To me it is an octave key in that low
> register.
> Look at the f
:
From: Williams, Jim
Subject: Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: Tuba Transposition
To: "finale@shsu.edu"
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 3:38 AM
More tuba trivia:
A four-valve non-compensating tuba is not fully chromatic
in the low
register.
With an Eb tuba, 4 valves, no compensating, low a is 2-
ce
> rt for. There also are a few 3 valve compensating tubas in CC, but I
> haven’t come by one yet.
>
> Klaus
>
> --- On Tue, 5/11/10, Williams, Jim
> wrote:
>
>> From: Williams, Jim
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: Tuba Transposition
>> To: &qu
rom: Williams, Jim
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: Tuba Transposition
> To: "finale@shsu.edu"
> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 3:38 AM
> More tuba trivia:
> A four-valve non-compensating tuba is not fully chromatic
> in the low
> register.
> With an Eb tuba,
More tuba trivia:
A four-valve non-compensating tuba is not fully chromatic in the low
register.
With an Eb tuba, 4 valves, no compensating, low a is 2-4, ab is 1-4, g
is 2-3-4, gb is 1-3-4 (and sharp), f is 1-2-3-4 and very sharp and low
e natural doesn't exist. For a BBb tuba with 4 valves,
At 5:15 PM -0700 5/10/10, Ryan wrote:
When a writing for tuba, the part should be written at sounding (concert)
pitch, correct? If the performer is using an Eb tuba, they don't need a
transposed part, do they?
Here's the situation, a group in France wants some of my band music.
However, they use
Self-reference...
Are there also BBb tuba parts?
If so you might have to do that horrendous "transposing bass clef"
abomination in which the part is transposed up a step but stays in
bass clef.
Leduc editions call this "tuba Sib."
It's still used in France & Belgium.
When I become King August
I agree. Many French E flat tubists read treble clef parts (with bari
sax transposition) just like their British brass band counterparts,
but there may be some who prefer a concert pitch bass clef part. Make
sure the part NAME states the transposition, so the librarian can
just read the par
You are best served here to give them two Eb tuba parts--one at pitch
in bass clef and one using bari sax transposition--treble clef written
middle C equals Eb below the bass staff.
You would be correct of you noticed that the parts will look alike,
but accidentals will pose problems.
Tubists
When a writing for tuba, the part should be written at sounding (concert)
pitch, correct? If the performer is using an Eb tuba, they don't need a
transposed part, do they?
Here's the situation, a group in France wants some of my band music.
However, they use Eb horns and Eb tubas. No problem to tra
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