Re: [Finale] opaque expressions

2007-06-27 Thread shirling neueweise
At 20:27 -0600 6/26/07, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: anything that is drawn before the opaque expression is hidden (e.g., staff element), but that it does not obscure items which Finale renders after the expression. while this is true, it doesn't explain why after entering all music (piano,

Re: [Finale] opaque expressions

2007-06-27 Thread JohnBlane
In a message dated 6/27/07 5:09:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: while this is true, it doesn't explain why after entering all music (piano, 2layers/staff) and only then applying the expression, the expression obscures only the note items it is attached to, and NOT note items (accis, stems,

Re: [Finale] opaque expressions

2007-06-27 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jun 27, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote: Of course, I still think this is a pretty stupid implementation -- especially since Finale doesn't provide any way to specify the front-to-back order of items. But understanding what Finale is doing certainly helps a lot. Specifying

[Finale] opaque expressions

2007-06-26 Thread shirling neueweise
i just discovered something that made me very happy... how long has it been possible to make expressions have an opaque enclosure? i have always had to create a mini shape expression to sit behind expressions to hide barlines when straddled by the expression. really quite intelligent, the

Re: [Finale] opaque expressions

2007-06-26 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 05:09 PM 6/26/2007, shirling neueweise wrote: really quite intelligent, the opaque background does not obscure stems, accis or notes. I don't believe that's true. In fact, I have a Fin2k7 score in which note expressions with an opaque background do obscure accis, although the exact

Re: [Finale] opaque expressions

2007-06-26 Thread shirling neueweise
hm. i figured it out. it obscures note items on the note it is attached to, but only staf elements of other notes as well as barlines. f^%$, one more example of incomplete implementation of what is actually a really great tool. or does anyone know of a good reason for this to function

Re: [Finale] opaque expressions

2007-06-26 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
shirling neueweise wrote: hm. i figured it out. it obscures note items on the note it is attached to, but only staf elements of other notes as well as barlines. or does anyone know of a good reason for this to function that way? Based upon preliminary investigation, I suspect this an

Re: [Finale] opaque expressions

2007-06-26 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jun 26, 2007, at 2:09 PM, shirling neueweise wrote: i just discovered something that made me very happy... how long has it been possible to make expressions have an opaque enclosure? They've been around for as long as I can remember. At least since 2000, I think. In the old days I