David W. Fenton wrote:
On 14 Dec 2005 at 2:40, John Bell wrote:
When Sibelius first came up with this feature, there was a great deal
of clamour from Finale users wanting the same thing. While I can see
the usefulness of it in some circumstances, I am far from convinced
that it is really
John Bell wrote:
Chuck Israels wrote:
I have asked for some things, including some kind of score/part
connection, and they seem to be considering that. Sibelius has
forced this issue. I don't know this for sure.
When Sibelius first came up with this feature, there was a great deal
Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Indeed, I agree on all these points. Part/Score linking would be huge.
In addition, it would be good to have some sort of EASY way to apply
page formats to all the parts. Like a dialogue window where you can save
a Page format, load ones from a folder (like ones you
Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Oh, thats a good idea. Not. I think MakeMusic has dropped the ball with
2006, but I have hope they will get their act together for 2007 if they
promise linked score and parts.
Well, promising it means nothing -- they've promised lots in the past
which hasn't come
To be fair (I guess), Finale has *always* had problems in its first releases.
This is why I never adopt new versions before the maintenance release. Long ago
I began thinking of the cycle starting in Jan. rather than July. It is a simple
matter of prudence.
Also, I don't think the marketing
Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, thats a good idea. Not. I think MakeMusic has dropped the ball
with 2006, but I have hope they will get their act together for 2007
if they promise linked score and parts.
I'm hoping for it too, certainly, but some of the ways that Finale
works
Stephen Peters wrote:
Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, thats a good idea. Not. I think MakeMusic has dropped the ball
with 2006, but I have hope they will get their act together for 2007
if they promise linked score and parts.
I'm hoping for it too, certainly, but some of the
I just created a file with four staves, all set to independent time sig and it
works fine. Éric, I'd suggest sending this in to support...
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To:
On Dec 13, 2005, at 1:08 PM, ThomaStudios wrote:
Update Groups in TGTools will do exactly what you need.
I'm concerned that this plugin will revert the positioning of the two
celesta staves to their default spacing. Will it not?
--Andrew
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On Dec 13, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 13.12.2005 dc wrote:
In which case you could simply use Finalescript:
search csta. replace cel.
and be done with it.
Excellent idea! Couldn't you also use Text Search and Replace?
Of course I could! D'oh!
Andrew Stiller
Kallisti
At 10:48 AM 12/14/2005, dc wrote:
Fisher, Allen écrit:
Windows EPS, among a lot of other things.
Has anyone tested this yet? I'd be interested in reading comments.
I've never used this feature, but my curiosity was piqued.
I just opened up a file at random and exported
the first page as EPS.
On 14.12.2005 Andrew Stiller wrote:
Update Groups in TGTools will do exactly what you need.
I'm concerned that this plugin will revert the positioning of the
two celesta staves to their default spacing. Will it not?
Well, you can try and revert if it does, but aren't the options all
From: Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:37:20 -0800
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2006b is Available.
I think we need more articulations in Maestro for Jazz. I think Bill
Duncan was going to do something but who
Hey Bill,
Good news indeed.
Thanks,
Chuck
On Dec 14, 2005, at 9:17 AM, bill wrote:
From: Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:37:20 -0800
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2006b is Available.
I think we need more
I haven't checked yet ... will the update allow us to save as an
audio file?
Dean
On Dec 13, 2005, at 3:42 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
Yes, it's free. The 2006b updater is available from
http://finalemusic.com, like all other incremental updates MakeMusic!
has offered.
--
Brad Beyenhof
At 12:39 PM 12/14/2005, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I haven't checked yet ... will the update allow us to save as an
audio file?
If you mean saving a file with GPO as an audio file, this was added
in Fin2006a.
Aaron.
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David's post says it all. I especially like :
David W. Fenton wrote:
...
When I was teaching at NYU, I always used to say that the best way to
proofread the materials I was handing out to students was to make 50
copies of it and then read it -- at that point, every single error
would stand
Well, the basics. Falls, scoops, bends, turns, smears, shakes.
Oh, and perhaps free update to people who bought your package *wink wink*
bill wrote:
Hi all,
I am working on a new Articulations font as we speak. It will contain all
traditional music articulations, including those for jazz
Just because I know you guys wouldn't want to miss it -- the GPO-HP
tutorial I wrote for MakeMusic is included with the Fin2006b update.
The file is called GPOHP Tutorial Supplement.pdf and it's located
in the User Manual folder.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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At 04:38 PM 12/14/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Just because I know you guys wouldn't want to miss it -- the GPO-HP
tutorial I wrote for MakeMusic is included with the Fin2006b update.
The file is called GPOHP Tutorial Supplement.pdf and it's located
in the User Manual folder.
It looks very
Hey Aaron,
This tutorial was actually written and sent to MM before 2006a was
even released! Some of the information in the original document was
updated to reflect changes to the maintenance release, and some of it
was not. However, I'm glad to hear that Ambience presets are now
Hi Darcy,
Near the beginning of your tutorial on GPO HP, you mention that the
Ambience AU plugin 1.05 is not compatible with Finale 2006. I've been
using it (Mac) and wonder what the problem is. (Is it just the GUI?)
Thanks.
-Randolph Peters
At 4:38 PM -0500 12/14/05, Darcy James Argue
On 14 Dec 2005 at 17:09, Aaron Sherber wrote:
I should also note that the Windows version of the plugin still
features a completely counterintuitive UI. Take a look at the image
on p.76 in the PDF. You would think that you would manipulate this
by painstakingly dragging the dials around in
At 05:41 PM 12/14/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote:
As for the dials, they work the same as the dials in the Kontakt
Player -- so at least it's consistently bad UI.
See, now you're getting me to play more with this stuff. g In the
Windows Finale GPO Kontakt player, the dials work *almost* the same
Hey, thanks MakeMusic / Coda!
My biggest wish has been fulfilled. After (only) about ten years of
waiting, EPS windows really works again! I just did some tests, and
it works fine, but ONLY if I include the fonts which results in
bigger files of course, but then, what the heck, it works!!!
Hi Randolph,
If you have Ambience 1.0.5 and open a document created on a machine
with Ambience 1.0 (such as the Finale Default Files), you will not be
able to use Ambience on that document. Moreover, Ambience reverb will
become disabled entirely, for *all* documents until you relaunch
On 14 Dec 2005, at 5:54 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
At 05:41 PM 12/14/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote:
As for the dials, they work the same as the dials in the Kontakt
Player -- so at least it's consistently bad UI.
See, now you're getting me to play more with this stuff. g In the
Windows Finale
Is it just me, or did MakeMusic miss an obvious implementation of
Staff Sets within Studio View? (FinMac 2k6b)
It seems like a no-brainer.
-Randolph Peters
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At 05:48 PM 12/14/2005, David W. Fenton wrote:
different email address, but I was amused at the remark above, since
it tends to cast me as someone who takes pleasure in pointing out
user interface infelicities.
Not that you take *pleasure* -- I don't think any of us does -- but
that you tend to
When I print parts, I often do some reformatting I would NOT like in
the original score. However, I often correct or re-arrange some
notes, and it would be very nice to have them automatically corrected
in the score, as well. Also, added articulations and such. Or I find
a faulty lyric in an
Best thing to do is download the Sib 4 demo and experiment with
Dynamic Parts. Then email MM and tell them what you like and don't
like about Sib's implementation.
Trust me, after actually trying it out for a while, you will run into
all sorts of dilemmas you hadn't previously considered,
At 06:51 PM 12/14/2005, Kurt Gnos wrote:
So - the best link, in my opinion, would be to have everything linked
- but not formatting and all things related.
Not to rehash the discussion we had in depth when the latest version
of Sibelius came out -- but this is just how Sibelius does it. Data
I think that's what I meant. I want to save a Fin File, in GPO to a
file I can then pull into my iTunes, and thence to a CD. I didn't
think that was possible with Fin2006, and if it is, I don't see it in
the Save As options. Maybe I'm missing something.
Dean
On Dec 14, 2005, at 10:00 AM,
Alright ... this is the best news of all.
Dean
On Dec 14, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Just because I know you guys wouldn't want to miss it -- the GPO-HP
tutorial I wrote for MakeMusic is included with the Fin2006b
update. The file is called GPOHP Tutorial Supplement.pdf and
Dean,
File - Save Special - Save As Audio File
This has worked for GPO instruments since Fin2006a.
If you never downloaded Fin2006a, there's no need to do so now. Just
download and install Fin2006b.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY
Ah, it's the Save Special that I forgot.
Thanks,
Dean
On Dec 14, 2005, at 4:23 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Dean,
File - Save Special - Save As Audio File
This has worked for GPO instruments since Fin2006a.
If you never downloaded Fin2006a, there's no need to do so now.
Just download
At 07:10 PM 12/14/2005, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
think that was possible with Fin2006, and if it is, I don't see it in
the Save As options. Maybe I'm missing something.
File | Save Special | Save as Audio File. In the original Fin2006
release, you couldn't save GPO files as audio files; this
Darcy:
I just tried to save a GPO file as an audio file, and the message
came up that Finale 2006 does not yet save a file as audio while
using NI AU instruments. Softsynth, yes, but not the other. I
downloaded the upgrade earlier today. Any thoughts?
Dean
On Dec 14, 2005, at 4:23 PM,
A minor dilemma:
1) Whenever there is a fermatta, I like to indicate it in resting
parts as well (breaking multimeasure rests if necessary). I also like
to indicate the beat the fermatta falls on (in the resting parts as
well) -- so if the fermatta is on beat four, the resting parts won't
At 07:29 PM 12/14/2005, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
using NI AU instruments. Softsynth, yes, but not the other. I
downloaded the upgrade earlier today. Any thoughts?
This may be a silly question, but did you *install* the upgrade, or
just download it? Does the title bar of your Finale say Finale
Dean,
If you received that error message, you aren't running Finale 2006b.
I hate to point out the obvious, but are you sure you INSTALLED the
upgrade? You have to double-click on the installer after you have
downloaded it.
The other thing is, you must make sure you are launching Finale
Ok .. I opened up 2006b and made a short file, in GPO, which I was
able to save as an audio file, and import into iTunes. So, that's
cool. Now, is there a way to so the same with files I created in
2006, not 2006b, and do the same?
Dean
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On Dec 14, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Dean,
If you received that error message, you aren't running Finale 2006b.
I hate to point out the obvious, but are you sure you INSTALLED the
upgrade? You have to double-click on the installer after you have
downloaded it.
The
From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:38:25 -0500
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] Fermattas in resting parts
A minor dilemma:
1) Whenever there is a fermatta, I like to indicate it in resting
parts as well (breaking
Yeah, I just checked that, and I do, in fact, have it installed.
Dean
On Dec 14, 2005, at 4:39 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
At 07:29 PM 12/14/2005, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
using NI AU instruments. Softsynth, yes, but not the other. I
downloaded the upgrade earlier today. Any thoughts?
This
Ok, now some really stupid questions. 2006b is in my dock .. that's
fine. So is 2006.
(1) I'm not sure how to drag and delete 2006.
(2) If I do delete 2006, will all my 2006 files open in 2006b, and
thence be able to be saved as audio files, etc.
Hey guys, I'm a tyro, ok?
Dean
On Dec
A minor dilemma:
1) Whenever there is a fermatta, I like to indicate it in resting
parts as well (breaking multimeasure rests if necessary). I also like
to indicate the beat the fermatta falls on (in the resting parts as
well) -- so if the fermatta is on beat four, the resting parts won't
Darcy,
After thinking a bit more, what is really the best thing to do is to put a
cue line in the resting parts (either with notes or rhythms) and indicate it
as such. Make sure you include the applicable pick-ups for the next
downbeat. It will be even less ambiguous than simply entering rests.
Hi Darcy,
I think this is an esthetic decision rather than a issue of clarity.
A dotted half rest will make things clear, but might look out of
place. I might consider using a quarter rest and a half rest with
the fermata on the half. I'm not sure though. I'd have to see it
before I
Darcy,
I like Bill's advice.
Chuck
On Dec 14, 2005, at 5:07 PM, bill wrote:
Darcy,
After thinking a bit more, what is really the best thing to do is
to put a
cue line in the resting parts (either with notes or rhythms) and
indicate it
as such. Make sure you include the applicable
Dean,
To remove the original Fin2006 icon from your dock, just drag the
icon out of the Dock. Simple.
If you want to remove the original Fin2006 from your hard drive
entirely, open the Finale 2006b folder, and drag Finale 2006 to
the trash.
Do you live near an Apple retail store by any
Lee,
As I said, there's a new tempo immediately following the fermatta.
If the tempo didn't change in the following measure, I would probably
be okay with a fermatta over a whole rest, but that's not the case.
The resting players need to know what's going on in the measure with
the
At 07:44 PM 12/14/2005, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
Ok .. I opened up 2006b and made a short file, in GPO, which I was
able to save as an audio file, and import into iTunes. So, that's
cool. Now, is there a way to so the same with files I created in
2006, not 2006b, and do the same?
Of course.
Hey Bill,
I appreciate the advice, but 1) and 2) aren't dilemmas. It's the
*combination* of 1) and 2) that creates the dilemma.
And like I said, there's no upbeat. There's a fermatta on beat 2,
and then the next entrance is a new tempo on beat one of the
following measure, with lots of
Dean,
Finale 2006b will (of course) open your Finale 2006 files. It will
open files created in *any* previous version of Finale.
Also, files saved by Finale 2006b can be opened by people who are
still (for whatever reason) using Fin2006 or Fin2006a. There are no
compatibility issues
Hi Chuck,
It is. The dotted half rest + fermatta in the resting gives maximal
rhythmic clarity (short of cueing the actual notes). It just looks
odd, since it's not usually used in 4/4.
If the consensus is that the dotted half + fermatta looks odd enough
(or inelegant enough) to actually
Le 05-12-14 à 11:28, Fisher, Allen a écrit :I just created a file with four staves, all set to independent time sig and it works fine. Éric, I'd suggest sending this in to support... Thanks Allen, already done. Eric Dussault ___
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On 14 Dec 2005 at 20:48, Darcy James Argue wrote:
It is. The dotted half rest + fermatta in the resting gives maximal
rhythmic clarity (short of cueing the actual notes). It just looks
odd, since it's not usually used in 4/4.
If the consensus is that the dotted half + fermatta looks odd
Hi Darcy,
Don't you need a pickup beat to show the new tempo? It's not clear
to me how that will work. Something 's got to indicate the change of
speed before it actually happens. I think I'd be considering putting
the hold on the third beat and making the fourth beat be in the new
Chuck,
This isn't my composition, but regardless, it's up to the eventual
conductor to figure out how he wants to handle the new tempo.
The hold is on the second beat. It doesn't make any sense at all to
put a fermatta on the third beat, since there are no attacks on beat
three.
Darcy James Argue wrote:The dotted half rest + fermatta in the resting gives maximal rhythmic clarity (short of cueing the actual notes). It just looks odd, since it's not usually used in 4/4. If the consensus is that the dotted half + fermatta looks odd enough (or inelegant enough) to actually
On Dec 14, 2005, at 9:21 PM, John Bell wrote:
Darcy James Argue wrote:
The dotted half rest + fermatta in the resting gives maximal rhythmic
clarity (short of cueing the actual notes). It just looks odd, since
it's not usually used in 4/4.
If the consensus is that the dotted half +
Hmmmn,
Maybe I get it. As I make the conducting motions, I make the second
beat movement across my body (to the left) and that leaves two
remaining beats to indicate the new tempo. Even safer, IMO. Is this
not rational? No attacks on beat three - I'd be inclined to make two
quarter
On 12/14/05, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can even delete your original Finale 2006 application to
be certain you don't inadvertently launch Finale 2006 instead of
Finale 2006b.
What I usually do is use Stuffit to put the unused Finale version into
a .sitx file, and then
At 7:38 PM -0500 12/14/05, Darcy James Argue wrote:
A minor dilemma:
3) But in 4/4, if the fermatta'd note is a
dotted half note on beat 2 and then there are a
lot of instruments making entrances in a new
tempo on beat 1 of the following measure it
seems like a dotted half rest w/fermatta
At 6:03 PM -0800 12/14/05, Chuck Israels wrote:
Hi Darcy,
Don't you need a pickup beat to show the new tempo? It's not clear
to me how that will work. Something 's got to indicate the change
of speed before it actually happens. I think I'd be considering
putting the hold on the third beat
John Howell wrote:
At 6:03 PM -0800 12/14/05, Chuck Israels wrote:
Hi Darcy,
Don't you need a pickup beat to show the new tempo? It's not clear
to me how that will work. Something 's got to indicate the change of
speed before it actually happens. I think I'd be considering putting
the
On Dec 14, 2005, at 5:19 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Dean,
To remove the original Fin2006 icon from your dock, just drag the
icon out of the Dock. Simple.
One would think so, but when I dragged, it just popped back into the
dock ... hm.
If you want to remove the original Fin2006
Very good ... thanks for the response.
Dean
On Dec 14, 2005, at 5:38 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Dean,
Finale 2006b will (of course) open your Finale 2006 files. It will
open files created in *any* previous version of Finale.
Also, files saved by Finale 2006b can be opened by people
Got it ... thanks for your collective patience.
Dean
On Dec 14, 2005, at 5:27 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
At 07:44 PM 12/14/2005, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
Ok .. I opened up 2006b and made a short file, in GPO, which I was
able to save as an audio file, and import into iTunes. So, that's
cool.
On 15 Dec 2005, at 12:25 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
On Dec 14, 2005, at 5:19 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Dean,
To remove the original Fin2006 icon from your dock, just drag the
icon out of the Dock. Simple.
One would think so, but when I dragged, it just popped back into
the dock
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