Chuck,

This isn't my composition, but regardless, it's up to the eventual conductor to figure out how he wants to handle the new tempo.

The hold is on the second beat. It doesn't make any sense at all to put a fermatta on the third beat, since there are no attacks on beat three.

Anyway, if *I* were conducting it, I'd give beats 1 and 2 in the original tempo, hold on beat two, then give an upbeat in the new tempo. That's the most obvious way of handling it, at any rate, and that's why I think I probably want a dotted half rest on beat 2.

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On 14 Dec 2005, at 9:03 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:

Hi Darcy,

Don't you need a pickup beat to show the new tempo? It's not clear to me how that will work. Something 's got to indicate the change of speed before it actually happens. I think I'd be considering putting the hold on the third beat and making the fourth beat be in the new tempo. Does that seem logical to you?

Trying to help figure it out.

Chuck


On Dec 14, 2005, at 5:48 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

Hi Chuck,

It is. The dotted half rest + fermatta in the resting gives maximal rhythmic clarity (short of cueing the actual notes). It just looks odd, since it's not usually used in 4/4.

If the consensus is that the dotted half + fermatta looks odd enough (or inelegant enough) to actually _throw_ people, then I'll use cue notes, as Bill suggested.

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On 14 Dec 2005, at 8:09 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:

Hi Darcy,

I think this is an esthetic decision rather than a issue of clarity. A dotted half rest will make things clear, but might look out of place. I might consider using a quarter rest and a half rest with the fermata on the half. I'm not sure though. I'd have to see it before I could decide.

Chuck

On Dec 14, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

A minor dilemma:

1) Whenever there is a fermatta, I like to indicate it in resting parts as well (breaking multimeasure rests if necessary). I also like to indicate the beat the fermatta falls on (in the resting parts as well) -- so if the fermatta is on beat four, the resting parts won't just have a whole rest with a fermatta, they will have a whole rest, a quarter rest, and then a fermatta'd quarter rest.

2) I don't like to use dotted rests except in compound meters.

3) But in 4/4, if the fermatta'd note is a dotted half note on beat 2… and then there are a lot of instruments making entrances in a new tempo on beat 1 of the following measure… it seems like a dotted half rest w/fermatta might be the best solution in this case?

Input appreciated.

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