Re: [Finale] Layout misbehavior
Indeed, this was one of the first things I tried, with no effect. No, the problem was really with the page break command. As soon as I went to page layout, selected all the systems and chose delete page breaks from the menu, the problem went away. How this came to be in the first place I will probably never know. Thanks for your input. Eric On 03.03.2010, at 20:51, christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: Ah, but did you Update Layout while you were on the FIRST page? Finale only updates layout from the page you are on until the end. In some cases if the scroll bar is only nudged a bit right, then update is only from page 2, so hit Home. Christopher - Original Message - From: Eric Fiedler eric.f.fied...@t-online.de Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010 12:57 Subject: [Finale] Layout misbehavior To: finale@shsu.edu Ok, I haven't run across this one before: I have a long piece with 8 staves per system and, until today, two systems fit well on one page. Now, suddenly, the systems are arranged in Page View as follows: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | etc. 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | that is, each system appears _twice, once at the bottom, once at the top of the next page. In Scroll View everything is fine, by the way, with no duplications of any kind. Update Layout does nothing (my first thought) and neither does Data Check. In my desperation I finally exported the file via Music XML and imported it again. The result was a document with a _single_ system per page 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | and a strange symbol in the upper left corner which looks like the old carriage return sign: |_ In the new file I can't get two systems onto one page, although there's enough room. It would seem that this is being prevented by the carriage return symbol. Can anybody help me with this? Eric Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler) www.habsburgerverlag.de eric.f.fied...@t-online.de e.fied...@em.uni-frankfurt.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler) www.habsburgerverlag.de eric.f.fied...@t-online.de e.fied...@em.uni-frankfurt.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Layout misbehavior
Ah, but it did, and I haven't the slightest idea why. But selecting all the systems with the Page Layout Tool and selecting delete page breaks from the menu solved the problem, both in the exported/ imported file and in the original version. Probably a case of hitting the wrong key at the wrong time, I suspect. Thanks for your input. Eric On 03.03.2010, at 21:16, SN jef chippewa wrote: thta is strange, sounds like a case of update layout not being performed, the page break should NOT cause this. Yes, there too (I just learned), but also (inside a small page icon with a bent-over corner) in the page Layout menu signifying a page break, which _was_ the problem. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler) www.habsburgerverlag.de eric.f.fied...@t-online.de e.fied...@em.uni-frankfurt.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2010 Win - tempo alterations not assignable to multiple staves???
Thanks to Jari and Rich for info. It seems some things are getting much harder to find in new versions, sometime hidden, sometime moved to other menus. At least it serves to make our brains work a lot more! :-) Jari Williamsson ha scritto: Marcello Noia wrote: Hi, I just switched to Finale 2010 and already found a strange problem. All tempo alterations are not assignable to multiple staves! Why? The V button beside the assign button is not clickable. Why on Earth cannot I see those expressions on all staves of my choral piece? The online manual gives no clue (or at least I did not find any). Any hint please? Thanks The objects connected to a category (other than misc) use the category's Score List. So edit the Score List in the category to assign to multiple staves. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Layout misbehavior
Eric Fiedler wrote: How this came to be in the first place I will probably never know. This is one of the reasons I always work on a copy of a file, especially an old file, and not on the original. Then, when confronted with this situation (or others of a similar class), by looking at the original file, I have a better chance of seeing the unexplained behavior in its native environment, and have a better chance of understanding why the behavior was there in the first place. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Finale 2010 Windows - 5 key does not give the total duration of the tune anymore
Until 2006 version selectin the mass tool and typing the 5 key one could get the total duration of the tune. Where has this function gone? Thanks again ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2010 Windows - 5 key does not give the total duration of the tune anymore
Marcello Noia wrote: Until 2006 version selectin the mass tool and typing the 5 key one could get the total duration of the tune. Where has this function gone? In 2009 and 2010: Use the selection tool to select a region of music, then in the Utilities menu, from the check notation submenu, choose the option check elapsed time. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Playback question
I'm working from F07, so you're screens may be different, but I'm wondering if you made changes to staff assignments in the instruments window. On my system, there is a window drop down from the menu bar which has a choice for the instruments window. That window has two choices for view. One is instruments and the other staves. If you select the instruments window, then you have to option to add instruments and assign them to midi channels and such. Did you do that step in addition to making changes in the SoftSynth setup? As to the harpsichord sound, I'm of no use. Dick H On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:51 PM, dc wrote: Apologies for this very basic question. I tried what the manual suggests here but to no avail. How do I use a different soundfont for playback? I made the change in the SoftSynth settings, but this seems to have no effect on the sound. (This soundfont is supposed to have only one instrument. Why do I still have all the others?) Has anyone ever managed to get a decent harpsichord sound from Finale? Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2010 Windows - 5 key does not give the total duration of the tune anymore
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: In 2009 and 2010: Use the selection tool to select a region of music, then in the Utilities menu, from the check notation submenu, choose the option check elapsed time. You don't have to use the Selection Tool necessarily, any tool that can select regions can access the Utilities menu. Such as Measure, Clef, Time Sig, Key Sig, etc. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Fw: [Finale] Playback Bugs
P.S. Another problem I forgot to mention that has affected other files as well as this one: on some occasions, whenever I click anywhere with the mouse, no matter what tool is selected, Finale always starts playback. I can either wait for it to finish, or force it to close using the Windows task manager. I have now also created a new file from scratch and entered the notes again. It works while no smart shape glissandi are attached, but as soon as I add them, the same problem occurs. This is very strange because I have a whole passage at the beginning of the work with a similar number of glissandi which plays back just fine. Michael Lawlor - Original Message - From: Michael Lawlor m_law...@btinternet.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Playback Bugs Here is some more information about my system and methods: 1) I am using a PC; AMD athlon 64 X2 processor; Windows XP 2002 sp3 2) I am using VST with Instruments for Finale 2009 3) There are 12 instruments (all strings in this case) each allocated to a separate channel 4) In this work I am using a lot of glissandi 5) It makes no difference if I am running other applications, but my first test was to ensure everything else was stopped I have also cut out the offending measures (12 of them) and pasted them into a new file and get the same results. I have then switched from VST to normal MIDI. This allows me to start playback where I like, but the intermittent playback still occurs. Through MIDI there are also some other weird results: i) Playback occuring in bars containing all rests (as if different lines are activated at different times - but there are no independent time signatures and there are no extra notes in any bars) this varies depending on where I start the playback. ii) Tuning has gone awry, producing some very strange microtonal effects - not intended. This also varies depending on where I start the playback from - as if the glissandi are causing Finale to lose track of its tuning. iii) There are some hiccups at the ends of notes where all parts come off together (assuming they do all stop). When this happened before (with 2002 I think) I eventually started a completely new file from scratch, entering everything directly with no cut-and-paste. I cannot remember what had caused the problems, but I think it was complex playback parameters. Regards, Michael Lawlor - Original Message - Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 06:32:27 -0500 From: dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Subject: Re: [Finale] Playback Bugs To: finale@shsu.edu Message-ID: 4b8ba5cb.8000...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Michael Lawlor wrote: [Finale 2009] A couple of weeks ago I asked about a problem with Finale failing while human playback is on. I got no response to that, but I am now encountering several problems with playback, including one I used to have with an older version of Finale. Following is a list of the various problems. 1) With human playback switched on, Finale will only work playing back from the beginning of the file. Set the playback to left-most measure or a specified bar number causes Finale to collapse in a heap. 2) The above problem is now also happening when human playback is switched off. 3) A problem I encountered with an earlier version of Finale (and never really fixed): playback is intermittent, some bars play, some do not; some parts in some bars play, others do not; some parts in some bars play some of the time (i.e. notes are truncated). This consistently happens in the same place. I copied the offending section to a new file - the playback error still occurs. When this happened in v2002 once the playback stopped, it did not come back in again. In v2009 the playback comes and goes. My only guess is that I may not have enough RAM (2GB). Can anyone confirm this or suggest other causes? I think that you might need to provide some more clues, such as which playback method are you using (i.e. soundcard synth, external midi module, SmartMusic soundfont, GPO or other VSt playback), what sort of score you're working on and how complex the music is, how many different staves are set to the same midi channel or soft-synth patch. Do you get the same errors no matter which playback method you use? Are you on a Windows PC or a Mac? Along with the potential for a problem due to ram (although on a PC with 2GB you should be alright, depending on what other apps are running in the background), the specs of the processor you're using and the OS you're using can have an effect as well. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com -- ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2010 Windows - 5 key does not give the total duration of the tune anymore
Type the 3 key. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 4 Mar 2010, at 9:54 AM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Marcello Noia wrote: Until 2006 version selectin the mass tool and typing the 5 key one could get the total duration of the tune. Where has this function gone? In 2009 and 2010: Use the selection tool to select a region of music, then in the Utilities menu, from the check notation submenu, choose the option check elapsed time. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale2010-to-Garritan percussion help/tutorial?
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: I'd hate to re-enter all six percussion lines to get it to play. You shouldn't need to do that. First, use View/Show/Percussion MIDI values to see/denug that the notes are actually there. If the notes were mapped to the wrong percussion device at conversion, you probably need to use Document/Data Check/Reconvert Percussion Note Types... Otherwise, use Utilities/Transpose Percussion Notes to map occasional unmapped notes. What concerns me is that it seems to crash on playback on recognized notes. To me it sounds like something wrong in the Instrument List percussion mapping, although I'm not at all sure here. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Playback Bugs
On Mar 4, 2010, at 7:44 AM, Michael Lawlor wrote: P.S. Another problem I forgot to mention that has affected other files as well as this one: on some occasions, whenever I click anywhere with the mouse, no matter what tool is selected, Finale always starts playback. I can either wait for it to finish, or force it to close using the Windows task manager. I have had similar playback problems - not the starting with any tool, but the freezing in the playback mode and refusal to respond to stop playback commands. This is what produces that situation for me: start playback and then click in another application, or in the finder. This seems to break control of Finale and prevent reaching it to stop playback. The solution is a simple one - click on the Finale icon in the dock to restore control (that seems to re-direct the computer's attention and control to Finale), then you can stop playback. This is the way a similar situation behaves on a Mac. I offer the information just in case there is something useful that translates to Windows. Chuck Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Playback Bugs
-Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Chuck Israels Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:07 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Playback Bugs On Mar 4, 2010, at 7:44 AM, Michael Lawlor wrote: P.S. Another problem I forgot to mention that has affected other files as well as this one: on some occasions, whenever I click anywhere with the mouse, no matter what tool is selected, Finale always starts playback. I can either wait for it to finish, or force it to close using the Windows task manager. I get unstoppable playback only when I use 'Space-click' to start the playback, but never when I use the playback controls. Also, playback somehow disables the 'close' X at the top-right of the Finale window and I have to exit using the File menu instead. Go figure. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Playback Bugs
I also occasionally get unstoppable playback when I use space-click - it's a pain!. Cheers, Lawrence On 4 March 2010 18:57, Richard Yates rich...@yatesguitar.com wrote: -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Chuck Israels Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:07 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Playback Bugs On Mar 4, 2010, at 7:44 AM, Michael Lawlor wrote: P.S. Another problem I forgot to mention that has affected other files as well as this one: on some occasions, whenever I click anywhere with the mouse, no matter what tool is selected, Finale always starts playback. I can either wait for it to finish, or force it to close using the Windows task manager. I get unstoppable playback only when I use 'Space-click' to start the playback, but never when I use the playback controls. Also, playback somehow disables the 'close' X at the top-right of the Finale window and I have to exit using the File menu instead. Go figure. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale2010-to-Garritan percussion help/tutorial?
Dennis B-K (and others): this new blog post is probably what you're looking for: http://finalemusic.com/blog/post/2010/03/04/Adding-New-Percussion-Sounds-to-Old-Finale-Files.aspx Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac 2010 speed issues
Hi Thomas, I have the G5 1.6 GHz and had a memory upgrade on the way when you posted the other day. FWIW, I went from 1.25 to 3 GB of memory and have seen a distinct improvement in the way the machine is handling the symphonic arrangement I'm working on today. I'm using OS 10.4.11, Finale 2009; same video card and VRAM configuration. Found a pretty good price on a 2 GB pair here: http://tinyurl.com/ykp8mhx Hope this helps. Don Hart On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Thomas Schaller tom...@mensuramusic.com wrote: definitely helps - thanks Jari! anybody think that adding memory might also have an effect? currently I have 2.5GB - I can go to 4GB for $100 - seems easy enough if there is some benefit... Thanks, Thomas Schaller On Mar 2, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote: Thomas Schaller wrote: So I have peeked around to see if others have similar issues, but haven't heard much - so maybe some hardware guys here have some good ideas. I have a nice old Dual G5 (1.8GHz) running 10.4.11, recently upgraded to 10.5.8; my video card is a NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 with 64MB VRAM. Only recently I work more in 2010 and it is pretty sluggish on my setup. I'm flying in 2008, the program always keeps up with my speed. I use Quickeys quite a bit. When I switch to 2010 I find myself having to wait for the program to catch up. Switching tools, screen redraws, etc. - I always have to wait that extra fraction of a second, sometimes a big fraction of a second. Any advice? adding more memory? getting a new machine? I guess it has to do with the multi-page display in Page View that was introduced in Fin2009. Switch to the old one-page display (Looseleaf Style: Current Page Only in Program Options) and see if it helps. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale2010-to-Garritan percussion help/tutorial?
On Thu, March 4, 2010 5:32 pm, Jari Williamsson wrote: Dennis B-K (and others): this new blog post is probably what you're looking for: http://finalemusic.com/blog/post/2010/03/04/Adding-New-Percussion-Sounds-to-Old-Finale-Files.aspx That looks like what I need. I was getting all those red notes and just re-entered to change to black, then the crash. We'll see how it goes now! Many thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
