Re: [Finale] Freeze measure widths?
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 05:27 PM 2/19/2005, Mark D Lew wrote: Now that you've explained it to me (I don't have 2k5), it sounds useful to me as is. I can think of times when I've wanted to add blank space at the beginning or end of the bar without changing the relative spacing of everything else. You can do this with TGTools, you know. AFAIK, there's a considerable difference between the TGTools method and the different Fin2005 for adding space at start/end of measures/systems/etc. TGTools adjusts an existing beat chart (and note spacing will destroy the added space), while Fin2005 doesn't even require a beat chart and will not be affected by note spacing. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Avoiding MS comms S/W
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Lew writes: I'm a lifelong Mac person, and I'm not all that computer-savvy anyway, so I'm not very good with practical suggestions. I know this list has plenty of smart PC users who know how to make Windows work without IE. Can someone perhaps tell me what I should suggest to my girlfriend? What browser do you recommend instead, and where does she go to download and install it? Are there any other simple precautions that can be taken, besides declining to open random exe files that get sent to her? (That much I know, at least.) She's got a high-speed cable connection. I have Firefox as my standard browser, and am happy with it (though I have had to continue to use IE to upload files to my web site). I can't remember the exact URL, but Google will find it from its full title of Mozilla Firefox. I scan for viruses with Norton and run the standard Windows XP firewall (Zone Alarm stopped the name servers from translating URLs, for some reason). I don't download email to the broadband-connected computer (my ISP has webmail) and on the old computer I use an email program called Turnpike and never open an attachment that I am not expecting. I don't know that I would recommend Turnpike, but anything is better than Outlook and Outlook Express if you don't run a firewall, if only because it will have attracted less attention from malign hackers. -- Ken Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://www.mooremusic.org.uk/ I reject emails 100k automatically: warn me beforehand if you want to send one ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: OSX Panther Upgrade
Rocky Road / 05.2.10 / 04:10 AM wrote: I'm sure you had a good reason, but I hope you realise that Tiger (10.4) could be just around the corner. In my opinion, You do not want to depend your work on first generation anything, both software and hardware. First generation is for you to play with, getting used to, and read reports around until you feel comfortable to move your workstation over. Buying Panther now is not a waste of money at all. Wasn't OSX 10.0 the First generation? 10.1 was when it really got usable. Tiger is the fifth generation of OSX. -- Rocky Road - in Oz Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Internet Explorer
At 06:26 PM 2/19/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: Don't forget to run Microsoft Anti-Spyware to clear out all the crap IE allowed on her system in the first place. I installed it and ran it yesterday. No problems. I guess I run a clean W2K IE6 system . . . Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
Darcy James Argue wrote: [snip] I saw this at Muscian's Friend -- $30 per light/stand combo (which is pretty much the upper limit of what I could afford): http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/ 452026/ I don't know if that's a battery-powered light, though. Since there isn't any wire showing, it sure looks like a battery-operated light to me. But you could call them and ask -- they do have an 800 number. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Internet Explorer
On the recommendation of various listers, I got Firefox (Mac OSX) and installed it (if you can call that an installation, as I just dragged the app over from the disk image). It seems to work surprisingly similarly to Safari, except it doesn't choke on certain web pages. It is quite zippy, and so far seems to be great. I like when it blocks a popup and lets me know. (Hey, boss, see what a good job I'm doing for you?) Very cute. One funny thing I noticed right away, though. When I click a link to open a new window with the new page, if the new page hasn't finished loading yet and I try to scroll in the new window with the scroll wheel, it is the ORIGINAL window, behind it, that scrolls, instead of the one that I am looking at. This means that when I close the new window, I am not in the same place in the window I left. If I let the new window finish loading, then I can scroll normally. Yet, I can hit Page Down in the new window at any time after the scroll bars appear to page down normally; it is only the scroll wheel that acts funny. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
On Feb 19, 2005, at 6:19 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hey gang, Okay, my 18-piece band is going to start gigging soon and I'm going to need to invest in some stands and stand lights for us. I'm looking for recommendations. The stands must be lightweight and collapsable -- not necessarily wire stands, but I have to be able to fit 20 of them in a luggable wheel cart. The lights must be small, battery-powered, and actually help readability. Above all, everything needs to be inexpensive, since I have to buy for the whole band, and modern big band gigs aren't exactly a hugely profitable enterprise. I saw this at Muscian's Friend -- $30 per light/stand combo (which is pretty much the upper limit of what I could afford): http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/ 452026/ I don't know if that's a battery-powered light, though. Any advice would be much appreciated. Are you sure you want to go with battery-powered lights? That's a big expense in batteries right off the bat. If you're not using halogen or fluorescent lights (which can cause noise in sound systems if they are plugged into the same circuit) I would recommend AC-powered lights with incandescent bulbs. They are low-powered enough that you probably won't need a heavy-duty extension/power distributor. As for stands, the saxes and trombones (playing seated, I imagine) could possibly use the low-profile folding cardboard stands (also available in corrugated plastic and melamine). There are probably a whole bunch of those for sale second-hand by big bands that aren't gigging any more. You can paint them if they are scuffed up. They also have the advantage of not covering up your musicians as much when they are playing on a raised stage. As for the Musician's Friend stands, the palette that holds the music up looks a little skinny to me. Once your book gets a few charts in it, the parts will start sliding off if the shelf isn't wide enough. Have you looked into rentals? Around here it's $5 per stand to rent them from a lighting company, which only gets more expensive after your sixth gig, plus THEY pay for bulbs and maintenance. Hope this actually helps, rather than frustrating or confusing you. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: OSX Panther Upgrade
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:52:14 +1100, Rocky Road [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rocky Road / 05.2.10 / 04:10 AM wrote: I'm sure you had a good reason, but I hope you realise that Tiger (10.4) could be just around the corner. In my opinion, You do not want to depend your work on first generation anything, both software and hardware. First generation is for you to play with, getting used to, and read reports around until you feel comfortable to move your workstation over. Buying Panther now is not a waste of money at all. Wasn't OSX 10.0 the First generation? 10.1 was when it really got usable. Tiger is the fifth generation of OSX. I believe he was talking about the first generation *of Tiger,* i.e. OSX 10.4.0. Currently Panther is in its ninth generation, 10.3.8, and all the kinks have been worked out of it already. Tiger, while it might be the next big thing, is bound to have issues... why else would all of the updates be necessary? -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com FinaleIRC (come chat!): http://finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
At 6:19 PM -0500 2/19/05, Darcy James Argue wrote: The stands must be lightweight and collapsable -- not necessarily wire stands, but I have to be able to fit 20 of them in a luggable wheel cart. Our Community Band has a bunch of similar stands, but they are Manhasset. Folding base and solid desk. I don't know what kind of price you could find, especially with stand light included. You don't want a wire stand if you'll be doing any outdoor playing. It takes a solid desk to support wind clips or some other means of making sure your music isn't Gone with the Wind! And a wire stand won't support the kind of music folder most big bands use. The lights must be small, battery-powered, and actually help readability. I would really urge you to rethink this requirement, and to figure the cost of constantly replacing batteries against the rather minimal cost of putting together a simple wiring extension network with components from Home Depot. Most of the battery-operated lights I've seen are designed for reading a book, not for illuminating 2 pages of music, and don't have a wide enough light pattern to do the job. There is a battery light specifically made for musicians, and it probably does the job really well, using a rechargeable battery pack, but each light costs well over $100! A battery-operated light will probably also have a bulb that's not exactly standard and replaceable at Walmart in a quick emergency. The illustration at Musicians Friend doesn't show any wiring on this light, but they don't show any wiring on all the piano lights they have, either. You'll just have to call and ask. You might want to go ahead and order one set so you can evaluate stability, ease of setup and takedown, weight, and quality of the light. Carl Dershem wrote: And I vaguely recall seeing band fronts for saxes at either Giardinelli or WW/BW a while back, though I can't seem to find them now. They can be good for displaying the name of the band, and a lot of sax players are used to them. Only one caveat here. For us older folks who wear bi- or tri-focals, it's awfully hard to read off those low stands because the bottom segments of our glasses are optimized for reading at about 10 inches, not 30 or 36 inches. Yes, you can have music glasses made, but then you're asking your musicians to put out a couple of hundred dollars extra. John -- John Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Internet Explorer
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 09:35:09 -0500, Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the recommendation of various listers, I got Firefox (Mac OSX) and installed it (if you can call that an installation, as I just dragged the app over from the disk image). It seems to work surprisingly similarly to Safari, except it doesn't choke on certain web pages. It is quite zippy, and so far seems to be great. I like when it blocks a popup and lets me know. (Hey, boss, see what a good job I'm doing for you?) Very cute. The next time that happens, you can just click that gray bar at the top and choose don't show this warning. Then, you'll only see the I blocked a popup! notice as a little icon in the status bar. One funny thing I noticed right away, though. When I click a link to open a new window with the new page, if the new page hasn't finished loading yet and I try to scroll in the new window with the scroll wheel, it is the ORIGINAL window, behind it, that scrolls, instead of the one that I am looking at. This means that when I close the new window, I am not in the same place in the window I left. If I let the new window finish loading, then I can scroll normally. Yet, I can hit Page Down in the new window at any time after the scroll bars appear to page down normally; it is only the scroll wheel that acts funny. The best thing to do to circumvent this issue would be to download a Single Window extension (the only one that works *well* for OSX is Quick Tab Pref Toggle: http://www.jedbrown.net). This will allow you to have links that automatically open a new window to open in a new *tab* instead. Unchecking Hide the tab bar when only one web page is open in the prefs might be a good idea as well (otherwise, the continual showing/hiding of the tab bar can get annoying). There are a lot of things you can do to customize Firefox to do things exactly as you want them; as Jari said, many powerful extensions exist to customize the browser to fit your working methods. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com FinaleIRC (come chat!): http://finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Freeze measure widths?
At 06:24 PM 2/19/2005, Mark D Lew wrote: Yes, I knew I had done it with one of the plug-ins, though I had forgotten which one. And TG allows negative numbers, too, right? Yes. You can add space at the beginning or end of a measure, or after a partal measure selection (i.e., mid-measure). And a negative number removes space. Aaron. I find this plugin absolutely invaluable, and strongly recommend it to anyone who doesn't know about it. I find myself using it dozens of times in virtually every one of my projects. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Change Default Font crash.
Hi all! This is about the fifth time this has happened and I'm getting a bit sick of it. I'm running FinWin2k2b and whenever I go to Change Default Fonts so that I can create the large time signatures that span multiple staves, I get the following error box after Finale crashes. The instruction at 0x04512ebb referenced memory at 0x0060. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program This has happened a few times already. Any suggestions? Taris ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] TAN - Ram memory for a mac G5
I will probably go ahead and buy some RAM memory soon. My G5 works with DDR-400 - PC-3200. Will my computer support any Ram unit with these specs. or do I have to buy a specified type for my mac? thanks for any advice, Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Note expression feature request
At 16:46 -0600 1/30/05, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Strictly speaking, that's not true. As I demonstrated with my dynamic articulations library years ago you can use the shape designer to quite easily construct multi-character articulations. but applying them as metatools will create new copies of the expression/articulation at every instance (in the deepest level of the document, in the shape designer), and significantly bloat your document. at one point i was told by the tech crew that my suggestion to have linked shape metatools was put on a feature request list, but have no idea for what version. -- shirling neueweise \/ new music notation specialists mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Internet Explorer
Bruce K H Kau wrote: Others have recommended Firefox, which would add my voice to. However, I wouldn't count Mozilla out, as it is a more mature program and has some things that Firefox does not yet have, such as the ability to bookmark a set of tabs. OK. I've been using Mozilla for a couple of years (switching to it from Netscape), and looked briefly at Firefox. I've not downloaded or used the latter, but my preliminary impression is that if you download Firefox and Thunderbird, which together have about the same file size as Mozilla, you get, essentially, Mozilla. Is there a recent contrast / comparison page between Firefox and Mozilla? ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
On 20 Feb 2005, at 9:59 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Are you sure you want to go with battery-powered lights? Yes. It's hard enough trying to squeeze a big band in a typical New York club, without also having to worry about wires from the stand lights getting tangled up in all those doubles and mutes, etc. Not to mention the sketchy wiring in a lot of places. It's just one more thing to worry about, and I really don't need the hassle of wires. That's a big expense in batteries right off the bat. Yeah, I know, but it would also be a big expense in extension cords right off the bat, too. If you're not using halogen or fluorescent lights (which can cause noise in sound systems if they are plugged into the same circuit) Shudder -- yet another argument for battery-lights, no? The light on the Musician's Friend stand is wired. And while the guy couldn't tell me how much the actual *stand* weighs, the shipping weight per unit is 25 pounds! Even if each stand only weighs half that, that's *way* too heavy to drag a set of those on the subway. I'm thinking of getting a set of GigLights: http://www.lampcraft.com/giglight1.htm It uses one of those low-power, super-bright LEDs. The bulb lasts essentially forever (50,000 hours). And they are small and lightweight. And the batteries are included. I found an online store that had 'em for $30 apiece. I might get maybe ten of them for now, hopefully that will be enough to start. As for stands, the saxes and trombones (playing seated, I imagine) could possibly use the low-profile folding cardboard stands (also available in corrugated plastic and melamine). Hmm... provided the clip on the stand light doesn't destroy them, that's actually worth looking into. My only concern is that they might make it harder for the wind players to get at their doubles. (Everyone has at least two doubles.) There are probably a whole bunch of those for sale second-hand by big bands that aren't gigging any more. You can paint them if they are scuffed up. I'll look into it. They also have the advantage of not covering up your musicians as much when they are playing on a raised stage. As for the Musician's Friend stands, the palette that holds the music up looks a little skinny to me. Once your book gets a few charts in it, the parts will start sliding off if the shelf isn't wide enough. Well, the Musician's Friend stands are out for a variety of reasons. But, thinking it over, I think the only way I'm going to be able to get a cart of 20 stands on the subway (plus the music folders and stand lights!) is if they are wire stands (or a combination of wire and folding carboard/plastic). Have you looked into rentals? Around here it's $5 per stand to rent them from a lighting company, which only gets more expensive after your sixth gig, plus THEY pay for bulbs and maintenance. Well, I'm kinda hoping this band plays more than six gigs, total! (Our first is at CBGB's on Sunday, May 29, if any NYC Finale listers are curious.) - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN - Ram memory for a mac G5
Hi Eric, Macs are extremely picky about memory, especially recently. Cheap generic RAM can cause a lot of problems, including crashing and kernel panics. The problem is especially acute in high-heat machines, such as your G5. Go to http://discussions.info.apple.com/ and do a search for bad RAM... Most people on Apple's support boards swear by Crucial (AKA Micron) RAM. They are one of Apple's OEM suppliers, so when you buy the RAM from Apple, it's most often Micron RAM. It's a little more expensive than the cheap stuff they sell at Newegg, but most people seem to think it's worth it. I put a 1 GB Crucial/Micron stick in my Mac mini, and it's been flawless so far. If you go here and select your model of G5, you can see what Crucial recommends for your machine. http://www.crucial.com/store/listmodel.asp? cat=RAMmfr=Appleproductline=Power+Mac - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 20 Feb 2005, at 1:30 PM, Eric Dussault wrote: I will probably go ahead and buy some RAM memory soon. My G5 works with DDR-400 - PC-3200. Will my computer support any Ram unit with these specs. or do I have to buy a specified type for my mac? thanks for any advice, Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Internet Explorer
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Bruce K H Kau wrote: Others have recommended Firefox, which would add my voice to. However, I wouldn't count Mozilla out, as it is a more mature program and has some things that Firefox does not yet have, such as the ability to bookmark a set of tabs. OK. I've been using Mozilla for a couple of years (switching to it from Netscape), and looked briefly at Firefox. I've not downloaded or used the latter, but my preliminary impression is that if you download Firefox and Thunderbird, which together have about the same file size as Mozilla, you get, essentially, Mozilla. Is there a recent contrast / comparison page between Firefox and Mozilla? ns Not that I know of, but I prefer to run Firefox Thunderbird rather than Mozilla, for the following reasons: - Firefox runs more cleanly than the browser in Mozilla. - Extensions are created and updated more often for Firefox - When one crashes, it doesn't affect the other! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
Darcy James Argue wrote: As for stands, the saxes and trombones (playing seated, I imagine) could possibly use the low-profile folding cardboard stands (also available in corrugated plastic and melamine). Hmm... provided the clip on the stand light doesn't destroy them, that's actually worth looking into. My only concern is that they might make it harder for the wind players to get at their doubles. (Everyone has at least two doubles.) I played in a band for a few years that used them for the saxes (trombones and trumpets used more regular stands, with clip-on thingies that hung from the back, with the band logo on them - far easier to get your slide past them, and easier to see the music on), and used clip-on lights that chewe up the edge a bit, but some reinforcement took care of that. The band had been together for many years when I joined them (and left after 5 years) and the stands held up well. But they were not something I'd even consider taking on the bus (no subways in San Diego). cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
On 20 Feb 2005, at 9:59 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: As for stands, the saxes and trombones (playing seated, I imagine) could possibly use the low-profile folding cardboard stands (also available in corrugated plastic and melamine). Is there a standard name for those things? I looked all over eBay and the usual online music supply stores and found nothing. I tried a whole variety of keywords, but none of them turned up the those floor-standing, low-profile jazz band stands. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN - Ram memory for a mac G5
Thanks a lot Darcy, I was prepared to hear this, but I did have some hope that there might be a way to get low cost Ram. I will most probably get Crucial memory. Éric Le 05-02-20, à 14:56, Darcy James Argue a écrit : Hi Eric, Macs are extremely picky about memory, especially recently. Cheap generic RAM can cause a lot of problems, including crashing and kernel panics. The problem is especially acute in high-heat machines, such as your G5. Go to http://discussions.info.apple.com/ and do a search for bad RAM... Most people on Apple's support boards swear by Crucial (AKA Micron) RAM. They are one of Apple's OEM suppliers, so when you buy the RAM from Apple, it's most often Micron RAM. It's a little more expensive than the cheap stuff they sell at Newegg, but most people seem to think it's worth it. I put a 1 GB Crucial/Micron stick in my Mac mini, and it's been flawless so far. If you go here and select your model of G5, you can see what Crucial recommends for your machine. http://www.crucial.com/store/listmodel.asp? cat=RAMmfr=Appleproductline=Power+Mac - Darcy ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
For my band in south florida (Simply Swing), the only things I provide are the stands for the saxes which have the name of the band, the sound system and the extension cords for the lights... Manhasset stands for the rest of the band are brought by each sideman in addition to a light... They all know the requirement up front and it has never been a problem... ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 20 Feb 2005, at 9:59 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: As for stands, the saxes and trombones (playing seated, I imagine) could possibly use the low-profile folding cardboard stands (also available in corrugated plastic and melamine). Is there a standard name for those things? I looked all over eBay and the usual online music supply stores and found nothing. I tried a whole variety of keywords, but none of them turned up the those floor-standing, low-profile jazz band stands. I always have heard them referred to as fronts. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
In a message dated 20/02/2005 21:14:20 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a standard name for those things? A group I used to play with always called them "desks" Cheers, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg"http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
Hey Marvin, Every band does it differently. This is a band devoted to playing my own original compositions, and they are *hard*. They put in many long hours of unpaid rehearsal, for gigs that might as well be unpaid. The reed players have to schlep at least two doubles apiece. These are all first-rate New York players, including established artists who *could* be playing a better-paying gig somewhere else that night, but they voluntarily give up that opportunity so they can come play my music. I figure the least I can do for them is bring some stands and stand lights. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 20 Feb 2005, at 3:44 PM, Marvin Rosenthal wrote: For my band in south florida (Simply Swing), the only things I provide are the stands for the saxes which have the name of the band, the sound system and the extension cords for the lights... Manhasset stands for the rest of the band are brought by each sideman in addition to a light... They all know the requirement up front and it has never been a problem... ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 20 Feb 2005, at 9:59 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: As for stands, the saxes and trombones (playing seated, I imagine) could possibly use the low-profile folding cardboard stands (also available in corrugated plastic and melamine). Is there a standard name for those things? I looked all over eBay and the usual online music supply stores and found nothing. I tried a whole variety of keywords, but none of them turned up the those floor-standing, low-profile jazz band stands. I found them on Giardinelli. Gimme a sec, and I'll see if I can find them again. looking aroud... http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/g=accessories/search/detail/base_pid/450151/ Are the ones our band used - we just stuck our logo in the white corner (as it already had a lot of red in it), but repainting them would be very simple. cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park
I know this is completely off-topic, not even tangential, but I strolled through Central Park yesterday and took about 100 pictures. Most of them are up at: http://www.dfenton.com/Gates/ This is not the place for a discussion of the artistic esthetics, so if you have comment, email me directly, rather than posting to the list. But I thought others who won't be able to get to NYC to see The Gates in person might enjoy the pictures. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park
David W. Fenton wrote: I know this is completely off-topic, not even tangential, but I strolled through Central Park yesterday and took about 100 pictures. Most of them are up at: http://www.dfenton.com/Gates/ This is not the place for a discussion of the artistic esthetics, so if you have comment, email me directly, rather than posting to the list. But I thought others who won't be able to get to NYC to see The Gates in person might enjoy the pictures. Not a fan of Christo by any means, but the park looks nice. Haven't been to NYC sine ... 1978? cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park
Nice pictures David..thank you for sharing them! I am a big fan of Cristo and Jeanne-Claude...heard an interview on the radio and they have a great outlook on things in my opinion! Thought this site was funny...done in good spirit of course: http://www.smilinggoat.com/crackers.html -K I know this is completely off-topic, not even tangential, but I strolled through Central Park yesterday and took about 100 pictures. Most of them are up at: http://www.dfenton.com/Gates/ This is not the place for a discussion of the artistic esthetics, so if you have comment, email me directly, rather than posting to the list. But I thought others who won't be able to get to NYC to see The Gates in person might enjoy the pictures. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park
Really very, very nice, David. I was there yesterday in the late afternoon shooting with frozen fingers. But it was worth it. Herman On Feb 20, 2005, at 5:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: http://www.dfenton.com/Gates/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
I've known a few band to use the polystand from: http://www.embeeideas.com/ just about any music store deals with Humes Berg - they make a very similar product. Jime Sodke ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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That looks like the corrugated plastic one I mentioned! Good catch! At less than 3 pounds each, you could take a bunch of these on the subway no problem. Christopher On Feb 20, 2005, at 6:13 PM, Jim and Pat Sodke wrote: I've known a few band to use the polystand from: http://www.embeeideas.com/ just about any music store deals with Humes Berg - they make a very similar product. Jime Sodke ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park
At the risk of appearing a real Philistine, are these a touch of the Emperors New Clothes, and really traffic diversion banners? However David, the photos are great! Cheers Keith in Oz Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0436-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Dershem Sent: Monday, 21 February 2005 9:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park David W. Fenton wrote: I know this is completely off-topic, not even tangential, but I strolled through Central Park yesterday and took about 100 pictures. Most of them are up at: http://www.dfenton.com/Gates/ This is not the place for a discussion of the artistic esthetics, so if you have comment, email me directly, rather than posting to the list. But I thought others who won't be able to get to NYC to see The Gates in person might enjoy the pictures. Not a fan of Christo by any means, but the park looks nice. Haven't been to NYC sine ... 1978? cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 18/02/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 18/02/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
Have you considered making them yourself with corrugated cardboard or any other of the materials used in stores and theaters for their displays, all you would need, aside from the chosen material, would be a box cutter and the enthusiasm to do it. I am attaching a drawing of my suggestion in pdf in case you would decide on this initial approach. Should you decide on this solution I would be very happy to make the design for the front of the stands, which you can print with a plotter and attach to each of the stands. Godofredo PS No I don't have a cardboard solution for the lights... :-P Jim and Pat Sodke wrote: Christopher I would imagine this is the one. As far as I know, Embee and Humes Berg might be the only 2 manufacturers. The Polystand is much lighter than the Humes Berg, but the Humes and Berg may hold up better over time. For your situation, the Polystand sounds like a great choice. The battery powered lights I've played under tend not to be bright enough, but there are so many now, one should fit your needs. Most bands I've worked with supply the stand fronts to the saxes, leader, and ther rest bring their manhasset. It does add a touch of class to have the stand fronts! Jim - Original Message - From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations That looks like the corrugated plastic one I mentioned! Good catch! At less than 3 pounds each, you could take a bunch of these on the subway no problem. Christopher On Feb 20, 2005, at 6:13 PM, Jim and Pat Sodke wrote: I've known a few band to use the polystand from: http://www.embeeideas.com/ just about any music store deals with Humes Berg - they make a very similar product. Jime Sodke ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations
In a message dated 2/20/05 2:25:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a standard name for those things? I looked all over eBay and the usual online music supply stores and found nothing. I tried a whole variety of keywords, but none of them turned up the those floor-standing, low-profile jazz band stands. How 'bout "fronts"? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park
On 20 Feb 2005 at 19:21, Raymond Horton wrote: Great pictures, David! What did you think of it? Well, I was predisposed to liking it, as I've always liked the Christo concepts (though I've never seen one in person; my favorites are the wrapped island and the fences). However, having seen pictures in various places, it didn't look to me like it was going to be as nice as the conceptual drawings had made it look. But 10 minutes into the park, and I completely changed my mind -- walking underneath them and among them, watching how the sun changed the color, how they moved in the breeze, how they inscribed shapes and curves in among the trees, I quickly came to like the whole thing a lot. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park
I was fortunate enough to see it first hand. I live right by the SW entrance to the park. I saw the pretty changing colors and was particularly appreciative of one place where I stood in shadow and the nearest gates were lit up with sun. My strongest feeling, though, was that they could have built a couple of schools in New York for the same money and created something of both beauty and lasting value. I also had a sense of standing there with the sun on my face in the middle of all these orange gates that are set up like a bunch of giant toys and at the same time being aware of all the suffering that goes on, both far and near, from a simple lack of commitment to solving problems like hunger. It was an interesting experience. Perhaps not what Cristo had intended, but who knows? Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], finale@shsu.edu To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:30:21 -0500 On 20 Feb 2005 at 19:37, Crystal Premo wrote: I must confess that I used almost the exact words. It didn't uplift me in any way. This kind of art is not really something you can appreciate in pictures -- it's really only something you can get except by walking through it. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
