Re: [Finale] GPO Studio
John You're in the game now -- the hunt begins in earnest. At this point you have your strings on channels 33-36 Midi channels 1-16 are set for playback in slot 1 (Midi set-up pop down menu) -- channels 17-32 slot 2 etc. -- you can load two players to 1 slot (by holding down shift in midi set-up) -- 2 players = 16 'instances' -- for the second instance however you must MANUALLY change the midi channels in the 2nd player from 1-8 to 9-16. IOW instances 1/2 - channel 1-16 instance 3/4 - 17-32 inst. 4/5 - 33-48 inst. 6/7 - 49-64 Jerry On 15-Mar-05, at 1:19 AM, Harold Owen wrote: John, You should set up all 8 instruments in Player 1. MIDI playback should be set to GPO Studio: 1. Hal On 15 Mar 2005, at 00:56, Darcy James Argue wrote: No that's not it, I'm on Mac OS 10.3.8. Anyway I put the VST plugins in the folder with GPO, which now no longer complains that it can't find it. I don't know if that was such a good idea. You shouldn't have to move folders anywhere, and moving folders is generally very bad for GPO. I would definitely ask about this on the Northern Sounds forum. Well it may not have been such a good idea but it *did* get GPO Studio to behave as it should -- I now get the players appearing when I click on Player 1 etc and I can load up sounds in their slots. Do I need somehow to turn off SoftSynth, because that's where my sounds are coming from? Yes. As I told the last time you asked this question, you need to turn Internal Speaker Playback in Finale OFF. Sorry, I obviously wasn't paying attention properly. I've now turned it off. I now get no sound from strings but, oddly, the cor anglias and piano play. Whether or not these sounds are coming from Garritan I can't tell. In Speedy, I hear the cor anglais and piano as I enter notes, but no other instruments. In GPO Studio I have loaded: Player 1: Slot 1:cor anglais Slot 2: clarinet Slot 3: piano Player 2: Slots 1-5: Vln I, II, Vla, Vc, Cb These instruments are set to channels 1 - 8, and in Finale, in the Instrument list I have assigned the channels accordingly. Thanks, Darcy, I do appreciate you patience in replying to me. John ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at: http://uoregon.edu/~hjowen FAX: (509) 461-3608 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Gerald Berg ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Slur Interpretation on Playback
Hi All, I'm working on a string arrangement using FinMac2004 with MIDI playback to my K2600R. Is there a way for me to get Finale to tell the K2600R to play four slurred 8th notes legato instead of articulating each note? Interpret Slurs is checked in HP. Thanks! **Leigh ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re(2): [Finale] OT - Garageband
If you have a software sequencer other than GB, maybe you could send the GB MIDI output to the sequencer and record it there. **Leigh On Mon, Mar 14, 2005, Lynn Gold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was told there was some way you could kludge a MIDI save by sending the output to MIDI. --Lynn On Mar 14, 2005, at 2:31 PM, Michael Cook wrote: GarageBand doesn't allow saving as MIDI: you can only convert the files to an audio format (AIFF, MP3 etc.) Michael Cook [I have already posted this on the Sibelius list - sorry for cross-postings!] I have a colleague that wants to make a file on GarageBand, save it as MIDI, and then import it into either Finale or Sibelius. The problem is on the front end - can GarageBand save its files as MIDI, and, if so, how does one do so? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams
Is there a way to make a chart with 1/4 note hash marks showing the chord names and the guitar fretboards? Am sure having trouble.. Thanks, George Ports ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams
On Mar 15, 2005, at 8:29 AM, George Ports wrote: Is there a way to make a chart with 1/4 note hash marks showing the chord names and the guitar fretboards? Select Staff Attributes select Alternate Notation button click Select select Slash button Ok out. Fret board can be selected from the chord drop down. Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams
Title: Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams I have done this by putting the chords and grids on hidden notes, and adding the hash marks as measure expressions. (Am I misremembering, or didnt you used to be able to add a staff style (eg slash notation) but still show items in another layer?) 3/15/05 11:29 AM, George Ports [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to make a chart with 1/4 note hash marks showing the chord names and the guitar fretboards? Am sure having trouble.. Thanks, George Ports ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Slur Interpretation on Playback
On Mar 15, 2005, at 9:34 AM, Leigh Daniels wrote: Hi All, I'm working on a string arrangement using FinMac2004 with MIDI playback to my K2600R. Is there a way for me to get Finale to tell the K2600R to play four slurred 8th notes legato instead of articulating each note? Interpret Slurs is checked in HP. Thanks! **Leigh This is a synth issue as much as a Finale issue. To get a proper legato, you have to have some way of telling the synth doing the playback NOT to use the attack portion of the sample, or to use a different envelope that doesn't have the transients associate with a new bow. Not all synths can do this, so it depends on your K2600R. Assuming it can, the usual way to do this is to have the patch set to monophonic (so it won't be able to play two parts at once, like violin 1 and 2, nor double stops or divisi) and then the synth gets it cue from the sequencer by having the notes overlap by some tiny amount. If I am not mistaken, this is what Interpret Slurs does in Human Playback. Since the patch is set to monophonic play, two notes WILL NOT sound for the overlapped portion, but instead the release portion of the envelope is skipped over for the first note, and the attack portion is skipped over for the following note, so there is a smooth transition between the two notes. Not exactly the same as a real slur, but close enough for jazz. If your patch is NOT set to monophonic, then of course there will just be a slight overhang between notes, but every note will still have its attack and release exactly like separate articulations. If I am mistaken, I am sure someone will correct me. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams
Thanks for such a quick reply Dick. Everything you said was understood. I had already made a chart with regular quarter notes and am trying to change them to hash marks. Tried to select all in staff attributes as you said. The noteheads wouldn't change. Has it anything to do with layers or ? George - Original Message - From: Dick Hauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams On Mar 15, 2005, at 8:29 AM, George Ports wrote: Is there a way to make a chart with 1/4 note hash marks showing the chord names and the guitar fretboards? Select Staff Attributes select Alternate Notation button click Select select Slash button Ok out. Fret board can be selected from the chord drop down. Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams
This is a real hard way to do it. Here's an easier way. There is a staff style called Slash Notation. In the Staff tool, select the passage, hit S (for Slash). All of layer 1 is turned into slashes. If you hit R (for RHythmic) every thing turns into stemmed slashes. As you noticed, you need entries in layer 1 to attach the chords to. I use rests so they don't play back. To make items attached to Layer 1 and other layers appear as well, you have to edit the Staff Style. Make this edit in your default file, too, and save it, so that you won't ever have to do it again. 1) To make Slash Notation and Rhythmic Notation staff styles show notes in other layers (essential for drum parts!) Select the Staff Tool (looks like a treble clef) Staff Menu>Define Staff Styles Beside Available Styles select Slash Notation Directly below that about two inches is a check box and Alternate Notation. Click on the Select button just below that. In the Alternate Notation dialogue box at the bottom, there are four options available; Show Items Attached to Notes, Show Notes in Other Layers, Show Items Attached to Notes in Other Layers, and Add Dots to Slashes in Compound Meters. ALL of them should be checked. Click OK Beside Available Styles select Rhythmic Notation Click on the Select button just below Alternate Notation again In the Alternate Notation dialogue box at the bottom, there are four options available; Show Items Attached to Notes, Show Notes in Other Layers, Show Items Attached to Notes in Other Layers, and Stems up in Rhythmic Notation. Check ONLY the first three; leave the stem direction alone. Click OK, then OK in the Staff Styles dialogue box. That's it! Christopher On Mar 15, 2005, at 12:42 PM, George Ports wrote: Thanks for such a quick reply Dick. Everything you said was understood. I had already made a chart with regular quarter notes and am trying to change them to hash marks. Tried to select all in staff attributes as you said. The noteheads wouldn't change. Has it anything to do with layers or ? George - Original Message - From: Dick Hauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: finale@shsu.edu> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams On Mar 15, 2005, at 8:29 AM, George Ports wrote: Is there a way to make a chart with 1/4 note hash marks showing the chord names and the guitar fretboards? Select Staff Attributes select Alternate Notation button click Select select Slash button Ok out. Fret board can be selected from the chord drop down. Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams
Changed to Slash Notation with no problem. Lost the Chords and Chord diagrams when I did it. Tried to edit the Staff Style and couldn't figure out just how to do it. Am using winXPand winfin 2005. Thanks for your help, George - Original Message - From: Christopher Smith To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams This is a real hard way to do it. Here's an easier way.There is a staff style called Slash Notation. In the Staff tool, select the passage, hit S (for Slash). All of layer 1 is turned into slashes. If you hit R (for RHythmic) every thing turns into stemmed slashes.As you noticed, you need entries in layer 1 to attach the chords to. I use rests so they don't play back.To make items attached to Layer 1 and other layers appear as well, you have to edit the Staff Style. Make this edit in your default file, too, and save it, so that you won't ever have to do it again.1) To make Slash Notation and Rhythmic Notation staff styles show notes in other layers (essential for drum parts!)Select the Staff Tool (looks like a treble clef)Staff MenuDefine Staff StylesBeside Available Styles select Slash NotationDirectly below that about two inches is a check box and Alternate Notation. Click on the Select button just below that.In the Alternate Notation dialogue box at the bottom, there are four options available; Show Items Attached to Notes, Show Notes in Other Layers, Show Items Attached to Notes in Other Layers, and Add Dots to Slashes in Compound Meters. ALL of them should be checked.Click OKBeside Available Styles select Rhythmic NotationClick on the Select button just below Alternate Notation againIn the Alternate Notation dialogue box at the bottom, there are four options available; Show Items Attached to Notes, Show Notes in Other Layers, Show Items Attached to Notes in Other Layers, and Stems up in Rhythmic Notation. Check ONLY the first three; leave the stem direction alone.Click OK, then OK in the Staff Styles dialogue box.That's it!ChristopherOn Mar 15, 2005, at 12:42 PM, George Ports wrote: Thanks for such a quick reply Dick.Everything you said was understood. I had already made a chart with regularquarter notes and am trying to change them to hash marks. Tried to selectall in staff attributes as you said. The noteheads wouldn't change. Has itanything to do with layers or ?George- Original Message - From: "Dick Hauser" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: finale@shsu.eduSent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:56 AMSubject: Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams On Mar 15, 2005, at 8:29 AM, George Ports wrote: Is there a way to make a chart with 1/4 note hash marks showing thechord names and the guitar fretboards?Select Staff Attributesselect "Alternate Notation" buttonclick "Select"select Slash buttonOk out.Fret board can be selected from the chord drop down.Dick H___Finale mailing listFinale@shsu.eduhttp://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale___Finale mailing listFinale@shsu.eduhttp://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___Finale mailing listFinale@shsu.eduhttp://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] odd problem with ps files, pdfs in os x
Disappearing tuplet brackets has happened to me. They are in the finale score, I can still see them, but when I make an eps from that page, they are, randomly, on occasion, gone. Replacing the offenders with non-engraver tuplets has fixed it for me. It happens rarely, but it does happen. One more thing to proofread for . . . David Froom On 14 Mar 2005, at 4:42 AM, David Horne wrote: Just to confirm the problem still persists in 2005b. OK, I've tried some tests and this problem seems consistent on my set up. I'd be interested to know if anyone has the same problem. If not, there's something bizarre going on at my side. Try this with OS X- create a new finale file (default document or via setup wizard)- only need one staff in any bar, create a triplet with a quaver (8th) and crotchet (quarter) (or vice versa) in one crotchet beat complile postscript listing (include all fonts) double click on the .ps file- this should open up in Preview do you see the tuplet? Yes. I used the original Maestro Default file that shipped with Finale 2005, and I used the default settings for Compile PostScript Listing (Include All Fonts is checked by default). This is with Fin2005b and OS X 10.3.8. [] At any rate, it sounds like there's something seriously screwy with your system, and I'd once again advise you to manually delete, then reinstall, all of your Finale fonts. Darcy, can you confirm that you were using engraver tuplets? If not, what happens if you do? If someone else replicated my problem, I'm inclined to think it's a bug, rather than a local problem with my setup. David ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] moving TABs faulty
Hi, I just did a transcription of the guitars in Average White Band's Cut The Cake... However, when I copied the TABs that I had set up for playability and sound into a new file I noticed that all this information was lost: Finale just assigned the lowest frets possible instead of leaving them as they were. So I had to print them from the original file separately instead of just extracting all parts in the new arrangement. Or I would have had to set them up again from scratch. This is rather disappoining - Anyone else who had the same problem? Is there a work around or solution? Kurt ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re(2): [Finale] Slur Interpretation on Playback
Chris, Great suggestion! The piece I was missing was the monophonic part. In the patch editor I discovered a Monophonic parameter which when set to On, revealed a Legato parameter. Turning Legato on did the trick. Thanks! **Leigh On Tue, Mar 15, 2005, Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming it can, the usual way to do this is to have the patch set to monophonic (so it won't be able to play two parts at once, like violin 1 and 2, nor double stops or divisi) and then the synth gets it cue from the sequencer by having the notes overlap by some tiny amount. If I am not mistaken, this is what Interpret Slurs does in Human Playback. Since the patch is set to monophonic play, two notes WILL NOT sound for the overlapped portion, but instead the release portion of the envelope is skipped over for the first note, and the attack portion is skipped over for the following note, so there is a smooth transition between the two notes. Not exactly the same as a real slur, but close enough for jazz. If your patch is NOT set to monophonic, then of course there will just be a slight overhang between notes, but every note will still have its attack and release exactly like separate articulations. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams
Go ahead and send me the file privately. I'll see what's wrong. Christopher On Mar 15, 2005, at 1:24 PM, George Ports wrote: Changed to Slash Notation with no problem. Lost the Chords and Chord diagrams when I did it. Tried to edit the Staff Style and couldn't figure out just how to do it. Am using winXPand winfin 2005. Thanks for your help, George x-tad-bigger- Original Message -/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerChristopher Smith/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerfinale@shsu.edu/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:08 AM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams/x-tad-bigger This is a real hard way to do it. Here's an easier way. There is a staff style called Slash Notation. In the Staff tool, select the passage, hit S (for Slash). All of layer 1 is turned into slashes. If you hit R (for RHythmic) every thing turns into stemmed slashes. As you noticed, you need entries in layer 1 to attach the chords to. I use rests so they don't play back. To make items attached to Layer 1 and other layers appear as well, you have to edit the Staff Style. Make this edit in your default file, too, and save it, so that you won't ever have to do it again. 1) To make Slash Notation and Rhythmic Notation staff styles show notes in other layers (essential for drum parts!) Select the Staff Tool (looks like a treble clef) Staff Menu>Define Staff Styles Beside Available Styles select Slash Notation Directly below that about two inches is a check box and Alternate Notation. Click on the Select button just below that. In the Alternate Notation dialogue box at the bottom, there are four options available; Show Items Attached to Notes, Show Notes in Other Layers, Show Items Attached to Notes in Other Layers, and Add Dots to Slashes in Compound Meters. ALL of them should be checked. Click OK Beside Available Styles select Rhythmic Notation Click on the Select button just below Alternate Notation again In the Alternate Notation dialogue box at the bottom, there are four options available; Show Items Attached to Notes, Show Notes in Other Layers, Show Items Attached to Notes in Other Layers, and Stems up in Rhythmic Notation. Check ONLY the first three; leave the stem direction alone. Click OK, then OK in the Staff Styles dialogue box. That's it! Christopher On Mar 15, 2005, at 12:42 PM, George Ports wrote: Thanks for such a quick reply Dick. Everything you said was understood. I had already made a chart with regular quarter notes and am trying to change them to hash marks. Tried to select all in staff attributes as you said. The noteheads wouldn't change. Has it anything to do with layers or ? George - Original Message - From: Dick Hauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: finale@shsu.edu> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams On Mar 15, 2005, at 8:29 AM, George Ports wrote: Is there a way to make a chart with 1/4 note hash marks showing the chord names and the guitar fretboards? Select Staff Attributes select Alternate Notation button click Select select Slash button Ok out. Fret board can be selected from the chord drop down. Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] moving TABs faulty
This is why I still use Finale 2001 for tablature, for the most part. Consider a simple 3-note G chord, G/B/G should be 3/0/0 on the first three strings. Finale wants to render it as 3/x/4/5. OK, I can edit that to 3/0/0. When I drag copy/paste the edit is untouched, but when I command-C/command-V copy and paste (on Mac), it reverts to its default. And of course, to paste or insert into a new file, that's the only way to go. It was this way in 2003, and it's _still_ this way in 2005. Unbelievable! John Roberts On 3/15/05 2:53 PM, Kurt Gnos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just did a transcription of the guitars in Average White Band's Cut The Cake... However, when I copied the TABs that I had set up for playability and sound into a new file I noticed that all this information was lost: Finale just assigned the lowest frets possible instead of leaving them as they were. So I had to print them from the original file separately instead of just extracting all parts in the new arrangement. Or I would have had to set them up again from scratch. This is rather disappoining - Anyone else who had the same problem? Is there a work around or solution? Kurt ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT - Garageband
Jamin Hoffman / 05.3.14 / 08:29 AM wrote: I have a colleague that wants to make a file on GarageBand, save it as MIDI, and then import it into either Finale or Sibelius. The problem is on the front end - can GarageBand save its files as MIDI, and, if so, how does one do so? There is no way by itself. There are 3rd party utility for this. I forgot what it called, but I paid $30 for it, and it even didn't work correctly. I dumped it, and I made my student buy Digital Performer :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
