Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura

2008-02-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Feb 2008 at 1:13, Ray Horton wrote: As far as scordatura for winds That phrase makes my head hurt. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura

2008-02-25 Thread Bruce Clausen
The Young Musicians Foundation orchestra in L.A, performed Il distratto with Michael T. Thomas at the helm in the late '60s. I don't recall any particular problems, though I was watching from the horn section. Bruce Clausen - Original Message - From: Ray Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

RE: [Finale] Firebirds

2008-02-25 Thread John Howell
At 5:54 PM + 2/23/08, Owain Sutton wrote: And far far too many supposedly-knowledgeable people don't have a full understanding of harmonics... Very definitely including those who orchestrate or copy books for Broadway shows!!! John -- John R. Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music

RE: [Finale] 2008b still unstable

2008-02-25 Thread Fisher, Allen
ZZZzzz *snort* wha? :-) Sorry, been on vacation for a few days... The update got pulled because some of the non-default palette graphics were missing. Globe and Traditional still work, so that's why most everyone missed it, and why some users were seeing it and others weren't. Does anyone use

RE: [Finale] 2008b still unstable

2008-02-25 Thread Fisher, Allen
Chuck-- Have you tried deleting prefs since the update? You've been crashing quite a bit. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Israels Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:18 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] 2008b still unstable

Re: [Finale] 2008b still unstable

2008-02-25 Thread Chuck Israels
On Feb 25, 2008, at 5:27 AM, Fisher, Allen wrote: Chuck-- Have you tried deleting prefs since the update? You've been crashing quite a bit. Hi Allen, Thanks for the attention to this frustrating situation. Yes, I have rebuilt the prefs since installing 2008b. I am having a hard time

Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura

2008-02-25 Thread John Howell
At 1:13 AM -0500 2/25/08, Ray Horton wrote: As far as listing unusual techniques and unusual instruments in the auditions, it depends on how many players you want to eliminate from considering the auditions. That's what I sort of figured. (Of course the teaching jobs I've held both here and

Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura

2008-02-25 Thread arabushk
Well, there were the quarter-tone-flat-to-A-440 woodwinds in John Eaton's operas years ago... ajr On 25 Feb 2008 at 1:13, Ray Horton wrote: As far as scordatura for winds That phrase makes my head hurt. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates

RE: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura

2008-02-25 Thread Williams, Jim
Gee~ I was on the stage crew for a couple of those, especially Heracles, IIRC (at least for the destruction of the sets). Between the rehearsal pianos tuned flat (some of 'em anyway) and a set of confused singers who were making it up as they went along, and the flat winds...what a circus! The

RE: [Finale] 2008b still unstable

2008-02-25 Thread Randolph Peters
Fisher, Allen wrote: The update got pulled because some of the non-default palette graphics were missing. Globe and Traditional still work, so that's why most everyone missed it, and why some users were seeing it and others weren't. I didn't get a chance to pull down 2008b when it was

Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura

2008-02-25 Thread arabushk
Well, low B isn't exactly a staple for trombones--not quite a pedal tone, and not that versatile as a first harmonic. Esp for tenor 'bone. I've always found it worthwhile to work around the challenges of instrumental limitations to solve my problems--after, look at what Haydn pulled out of the

RE: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura

2008-02-25 Thread John Howell
And I was in the audience for one of those performances, and can't say that all the trouble was actually worth it!!! Definitely not a composer for the masses (I'm tempted to say definitely not a composer, but that would be unkind), but hey, he married a gorgeous woman with a breathtaking

Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura

2008-02-25 Thread Ray Horton
This would play into my earlier points concerning relative power of conductor and players, also value of instruments. RBH Bruce Clausen wrote: The Young Musicians Foundation orchestra in L.A, performed Il distratto with Michael T. Thomas at the helm in the late '60s. I don't recall any

Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura

2008-02-25 Thread Ray Horton
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Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura and trombone low B

2008-02-25 Thread Ray Horton
OK - that's one reported pro Distratto performance! (No report on how many, if any, of the fiddlers brought their alternate instruments.) Trombone low B: I teach my tenor trombone students to fake a low B - lipping down the C, since most of them don't have an E pull anyway. I have a

Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura now ergobone (REALLY TAN)

2008-02-25 Thread Ray Horton
Hi Jim, ErgoBone saved my career on bass trombone. I really need to send the guy in Finland a testimonial. I have a British euph and an American front-action, neither are really comfortable for me. RBH Williams, Jim wrote: Hi, Ray... Nice to see another Ergo user! The ErgoEuph works

Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura

2008-02-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Feb 2008 at 14:25, Ray Horton wrote: This would play into my earlier points concerning relative power of conductor and players, also value of instruments. I'm certain I heard the Cleveland Orchestra do it back in the 80s when I lived in Cleveland. And just a quick Google picks up a

Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura

2008-02-25 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 25 Feb 2008, at 2:01 AM, Ray Horton wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: Because the sound of an open string on cello -- especially that scordatura B! -- is very different from the sound of a stopped bass string. (When the basses divide, do the top ones at least play the B without

Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura and trombone low B

2008-02-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Feb 2008 at 14:47, Ray Horton wrote: OK - that's one reported pro Distratto performance! (No report on how many, if any, of the fiddlers brought their alternate instruments.) Some Googling turned up this: Cleveland Orchestra, 2002 http://www.andante.com/article/article.cfm?id=18550

Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura and trombone low B

2008-02-25 Thread Ray Horton
OK, you win! I looked that one up again on Wikipedia: --- In Haydn's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Haydn Symphony No. 60 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._60_%28Haydn%29 in C (/Il Distratto/), the first and second violins start the finale of this unusual six-movement symphony

Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura

2008-02-25 Thread Ray Horton
I believe that needing perhaps some slight adjustment to bridge angle in the middle of a piece, for the entire section of violins, is exactly what we are discussing here as often impractical. RBH David W. Fenton wrote: On 25 Feb 2008 at 14:25, Ray Horton wrote: This would play into my

Re: [Finale] what does a copyist do? now scordatura

2008-02-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Feb 2008 at 17:59, Ray Horton wrote: I believe that needing perhaps some slight adjustment to bridge angle in the middle of a piece, for the entire section of violins, is exactly what we are discussing here as often impractical. Slight adjustments to the bridge are pretty much

[Finale] Percussion Diagrams

2008-02-25 Thread Adam Golding
I've never written music for solo percussionist before--do you guys do percussion diagrams in Finale? is there a resource i can look to for advice on how to do this? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Percussion Diagrams

2008-02-25 Thread Carl Dershem
Adam Golding wrote: I've never written music for solo percussionist before--do you guys do percussion diagrams in Finale? is there a resource i can look to for advice on how to do this? Step 1: Talk to a good percussionist. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/#