MassMover, Select all, 'L', locks the layout. Does that prevent the kludge
undo?
-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu
[mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Mark D Lew
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:51 PM
To: Finale-List 3
Subject: [Finale] print forces update
No, it won't. Or if it does, the kludge is no kludge at all, and is unrelated
to Update Layout.
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
On 21 May 2010, at 1:26 AM, Richard Yates wrote:
MassMover, Select all, 'L', locks the layout. Does that prevent the kludge
undo?
On May 20, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
No, it won't. Or if it does, the kludge is no kludge at all, and
is unrelated to Update Layout.
Hmm, maybe it's not update layout then. Let me be more specific.
I've got a piece with a lot of time signature changes and one of them
That's a bad kludge. Find another, better way to get the result you want. In
recent versions, printing forces an update layout. This is a good and sensible
thing.
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
On 20 May 2010, at 11:51 PM, Mark D Lew wrote:
I have a piece that
On May 20, 2010, at 11:09 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
That's a bad kludge. Find another, better way to get the result you
want. In recent versions, printing forces an update layout. This is
a good and sensible thing.
Ugh. OK, well at least that answers my question. Thanks.
I see why
Is there somewhere I can define the time signature numeral
characters? If I can blank out the plus and some digits I may be
able to fake something with a composite time signature.
that will surely give you way more space than you need
what about creating an expression of a staff (5 lines,
On May 21, 2010, at 2:13 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote:
that will surely give you way more space than you need
Yes, I discovered that. I played with it a bit and it wasn't working.
what about creating an expression of a staff (5 lines, attached to
all staves) that is something like 12 EVPUS
I would try exporting graphic before update layout happens, then
printing from a PDF file (but I haven't tried it with a problem like
this). But maybe that wouldn't meet your client's requirements.
-- James Cooper
On Friday, May 21, 2010, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2010 2:09 am, Darcy James Argue wrote:
That's a bad kludge. Find another, better way to get the result you want. In
recent versions, printing forces an update layout. This is a good and sensible
thing.
Ouch! That explains why my DO NOT UPDATE LAYOUT graphical scores don't work
On Fri, May 21, 2010 3:18 am, Mark D Lew wrote:
Do you have another kludge you would recommend for generating space
after a courtesy time signature at the end of a system?
Perhaps add a measure, use a 'real' time signature, hide the rest, put in the
extra time signature info, adjust the measure
Darcy James Argue wrote:
That's a bad kludge. Find another, better way to get the result you want. In
recent versions, printing forces an update layout. This is a good and sensible
thing.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree that printing forcing an
update layout with no user control is not a
Mark D Lew wrote:
On May 20, 2010, at 11:09 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
That's a bad kludge. Find another, better way to get the result you
want. In recent versions, printing forces an update layout. This is a
good and sensible thing.
Ugh. OK, well at least that answers my question.
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2010 2:09 am, Darcy James Argue wrote:
That's a bad kludge. Find another, better way to get the result you want. In
recent versions, printing forces an update layout. This is a good and sensible
thing.
Ouch! That explains why my DO NOT UPDATE LAYOUT
Insert the time signature as 6/2 + 3/1 and then go into the time
signature settings in doc options and change the + to a blank
character in the font and you will see the time as you want it. I've
done this very same thing for Bernstein's Overture to WSS 4/4 + 2/4
stuff. You have to set
dhbailey wrote:
Darcy James Argue wrote:
That's a bad kludge. Find another, better way to get the result you
want. In recent versions, printing forces an update layout. This is a
good and sensible thing.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree that printing forcing an update layout
with no
I'm sorry to come late to this, but is this issue above and beyond the
need to UNCHECK Document OptionsMultimeasure RestsUpdate Automatically?
This function, designed to prevent scroll-view note entry into MM rests, also
forces an update layout when printing.
I looked quickly through the posts
Hi Mark,
Hide the real barline. Hide the courtesy time signature. Add extra space at the
end of the measure (Measure Attributes - Extra Space at End). Add a graphic
barline as an expression. Add both the 6/2 and the 3/1 time signatures as
expressions.
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB:
Mark D Lew wrote:
Do you have another kludge you would recommend for generating space
after a courtesy time signature at the end of a system?
It's quite easy to add graphical time sigs that works correctly with
layout updates, music respacing and so on:
* If you need space to add the
On May 21, 2010, at 3:54 AM, Scott Jones wrote:
Insert the time signature as 6/2 + 3/1 and then go into the time
signature settings in doc options and change the + to a blank
character in the font and you will see the time as you want it.
I've done this very same thing for Bernstein's
Jari Williamsson
Jim Williams already mentioned the Update Automatically setting in the
MM Rest options. I believe it's this setting that causes the UL prior to
printing.
Indeed I do at least suspect this setting is responsible here.
This is a feature with at least one major unintended
This method does not provide the right amount of space for
the parenthesis after the 3/1 for the courtesy time signature
at the end of a system.
I've been too lazy to track all of these suggestions and I also wallow in
the obsolete depths of Finale2007, but...
What about a custom
On May 21, 2010, at 4:23 AM, dhbailey wrote:
Isn't that forced update layout supposed to be why the developers
created the Automatic Update Layout option to begin with?
That should be sufficient for people who want the layout updated
automatically, including when printing, so they don't
On May 21, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Williams, Jim wrote:
I'm sorry to come late to this, but is this issue above and beyond the
need to UNCHECK Document OptionsMultimeasure RestsUpdate
Automatically?
I just tried this on my file and it does not solve the problem in my
case.
mdl
I can't recall who the OP is, but s/he might try turning UPDATE AUTOMATICALLY
off in document OptionsMM Rests
I am the OP. Unchecking this setting does not prevent Finale from updating
layout prior to printing.
mdl
___
Finale mailing list
Dennis wrote:
What about simply adding an extra measure? What does your client want to do
with the XML code? Would an extra measure by any worse than your own kludge
for the code?
Now that you mention it, I'm honestly not sure what all he does with the XML
code. I do know that he's very XML
On 21 May 2010 at 11:32, Mark D Lew wrote:
I got an email from him saying an extra measure is fine so long as it
doesn't add a gap in the playback. I'm at work now and away from my
Finale so I haven't had a time to play with this, but I assume there's
some way to make sure the extra measure
Hi Mark,
You don't need an extra measure. The extra space at end of measure method I
described works.
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
On 21 May 2010, at 2:32 PM, Mark D Lew wrote:
Dennis wrote:
What about simply adding an extra measure? What does your client
I suddenly lost all color info in my Finale 2010 display. This included the
note colors for layers 2, 3, and 4. All marks on the score were displayed
in black. I closed down Finale 2010 and brought up Finale 2009 which behaved
normally. Layer two notes were red, etc. Switching back to Finale
Robert L. Jenks wrote:
I suddenly lost all color info in my Finale 2010 display. This included
the note colors for layers 2, 3, and 4. All marks on the score were
displayed in black. I closed down Finale 2010 and brought up Finale 2009
which behaved normally. Layer two notes were red, etc.
On May 21, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
You don't need an extra measure. The extra space at end of
measure method I described works.
I was thinking to avoid having to redraw the regular time signature
and the barline, but on second thought maybe that's not such a big deal.
You may be able to obtain the 12 EVPUs by reducing the width of the
preceding measures by a total of the required number of EVPUs.
(Measure tool - click on the individual measure(s) and alter the width
number.) [I have done this with single staves - I don't know if it works
with the whole
On May 21, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Ian Harris wrote:
You may be able to obtain the 12 EVPUs by reducing the width of the
preceding measures by a total of the required number of EVPUs.
(Measure tool - click on the individual measure(s) and alter the
width number.) [I have done this with single
32 matches
Mail list logo
