I have noticed that the upgrade price to 2012b is now lower than it was a
while ago and thinking if it was worthwhile upgrading (from 2009) or waiting
for the modernized Finale product that takes advantage of current
technology and workflows. Technology companies don't usually drop prices
if they
On 8/21/2012 2:59 AM, Michael Lawlor wrote:
I have noticed that the upgrade price to 2012b is now lower than it was a
while ago and thinking if it was worthwhile upgrading (from 2009) or waiting
for the modernized Finale product that takes advantage of current
technology and workflows.
I have a really horrible feeling that a
modernized Finale product that takes advantage of current technology and
workflows is probably going to involve tabs replacing the traditional menus,
like MS Office, and those recently introduced in Sibelius 7. I really hope not,
as I think it was a
On 8/21/2012 6:08 AM, Colin Broom wrote:
I have a really horrible feeling that a
modernized Finale product that takes advantage of current technology and
workflows is probably going to involve tabs replacing the traditional menus,
like MS Office, and those recently introduced in Sibelius 7.
Yeah, I did know that, thanks, but I guess it bothers me that by default it
takes up so much space. My bigger issue with it is that it's not especially
intuitive. For example, one particular gripe is that depending on which tab is
selected, the plugins button has different content, which makes
On 8/21/2012 7:56 AM, Colin Broom wrote:
Yeah, I did know that, thanks, but I guess it bothers me that by default it
takes up so much space. My bigger issue with it is that it's not especially
intuitive. For example, one particular gripe is that depending on which tab
is selected, the
Whoops--hit send too soon.
Evidently some of these locations are sacrosanct.
A while ago I suggested a small number of relocations and was chewed out by a
power user.
Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.
On Aug 21, 2012, at 8:49 AM, David H. Bailey
Some of these locations are evidently sacrosanct.
Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.
On Aug 21, 2012, at 8:49 AM, David H. Bailey
dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote:
On 8/21/2012 7:56 AM, Colin Broom wrote:
Yeah, I did know that, thanks, but I guess it bothers me
On 8/21/2012 8:54 AM, Williams, Jim wrote:
Whoops--hit send too soon.
Evidently some of these locations are sacrosanct.
A while ago I suggested a small number of relocations and was chewed out by a
power user.
Which just shows that A) it's what we use most and thus learn well that
we can
As a twenty year Finale user (2.0) who is now experiencing Sibelius, I
heartily concur.
Obviously I haven't had time to learn or define all my shortcuts, but it is
reassuring to know that the capability is there.
With each new version of Finale, I spend an inordinate amount of time
From: jphill...@makemusic.com
We have no plans to implement a ribbon style interface.
Woohoo!
C.
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On 8/21/12 5:08 AM, Colin Broom
To me, the strangest menu location of all is Update Smart Word
Extensions and Hyphens, which is not logically under Lyrics but is
seven notches to the left, under Utilities.
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US
On 8/21/2012 11:28 AM, Raymond Horton wrote:
To me, the strangest menu location of all is Update Smart Word
Extensions and Hyphens, which is not logically under Lyrics but is
seven notches to the left, under Utilities.
An experiment we might all try is to list all the menu and submenu (but
I just found another more widely spaced pair of the BD parentheses pairs that
works for the note with the accidental, so that does solve the immediate
problem, but I am still wary of hand tweaking disappearing. I do hot have
Automatic Update Layout checked.
Thanks,
Chuck
Chuck Israels
8831
Collective wisdom:
I am working on some linked parts in 2012, using the special tools to move a
single note slightly to the right in order to make space for a smart shape
parentheses that surrounds the notehead. Then I nudge the smart shape a pixel
or two and leave the part. When I return to
Do you have manual positioning set to incorporate in the music spacing
preferences? Don Hart
On Aug 21, 2012 2:55 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:
Collective wisdom:
I am working on some linked parts in 2012, using the special tools to move
a single note slightly to the right in
On 2012-08-21 21:41, Chuck Israels wrote:
I do hot have Automatic Update Layout checked.
It's Automatic Music Spacing that's affecting the respacing. Also, if
it's check that Update Automatically isn't checked in the
Multimeasure Rest document options.
Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
On 2012-08-21 17:28, Raymond Horton wrote:
To me, the strangest menu location of all is Update Smart Word
Extensions and Hyphens, which is not logically under Lyrics but is
seven notches to the left, under Utilities.
IMO, to duplicate it in the lyrics menu could make sense, but not to
remove
Jari,
How many places in the application are there that affect spacing, manual or
otherwise?
Thanks,
Michael
mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com
http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl
http://oregonmts.com/mathew/
From: Jari Williamsson
On Aug 21, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Don Hart donhartmu...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you have manual positioning set to incorporate in the music spacing
preferences?
Thank you, Don and Jari. Don's suggestion seems to be the one affecting things
here.
Great help, as usual.
Chuck
Don Hart
On Aug
On 2012-08-21 23:10, Michael Mathew wrote:
How many places in the application are there that affect spacing, manual or
otherwise?
I believe it's only AMS actually, and spacing it according to the Music
Spacing options.
But the MM rest auto-update can affect the relative measure lengths of
Thanks, Jari. I have done all these things to good effect.
On Aug 21, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Jari Williamsson
jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote:
On 2012-08-21 23:10, Michael Mathew wrote:
How many places in the application are there that affect spacing, manual or
otherwise?
I
I disagree.
This may be a large part of the problem with simplifying the menu!
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Jari Williamsson
based on what? justin has already mentioned this isn't in the plans,
but i would mention that while i encourage thoughtful criticism of
the implementation of certain fetaures, i would also point out that
there is no justification for these kinds of paranoias :-)
I have a really horrible
huh? you mean like metatools? i.e. 35+ slots for user-defined
shortcuts in each of the measure, staff style, articulation, tuplet
and expression tools? and even smart shapes?
One great benefit of Sibelius, which I hope Finale will someday
institute natively, not requiring a plug-in, is the
How do you get off this piece of shit website?
--- On Tue, 8/21/12, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:
From: Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Finale] hand spacing disappears
To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 5:32 PM
On Aug 21, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Don
Refresh my memory -- metatools are key combinations that work from any
tool in the program? Or do you have to be in the tool for which the
metatool was programmed? So if I define a metatool for the Measure tool
and then try to use it while the Staff tool is active, will it work as I
defined
For a start, ask politely and do not insult the site that provides much insight
and wisdom about Finale.
Then someone might reply.
Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.
On Aug 21, 2012, at 9:11 PM, Apeman apeman...@bellsouth.net wrote:
How do you get off this piece of shit
Plus the keyboard remapping in TGTools. I've had all the function keys
programmed with TGTools for so long I had to double-check to make sure I was
doing it that way. Seems a normal part of the program for me now.
huh? you mean like metatools? i.e. 35+ slots for user-defined shortcuts
in each
Refresh my memory -- metatools are key combinations that work from any
tool in
the program? Or do you have to be in the tool for which the metatool was
programmed? So if I define a metatool for the Measure tool and then try
to use it
while the Staff tool is active, will it work as I defined
How do you get your name off this piece of shit website?
--- On Tue, 8/21/12, Jari Williamsson jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se
wrote:
From: Jari Williamsson jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: Re: [Finale] Disappearing spacing
To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2012,
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