Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes
Most programs nowadays let you download skins and stuff as an option if you don't like the default visual items. Yet some of them can be easily made by anyone who knows how (they're usually png images). Maybe people at Finale can make things like icons, wallpapers or even cursors optionally customizable thru internet downloads. Rafael Junchaya ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Change in applying mass edit spacing?
FinWin 2K7a, WinXP. But Note Spacing still doesn't work if the current part has been assigned a special voicing (Specify voicing in Manage Parts dialog), nor 4 key nor context menu action. The other spacing options do work but this one in the above mentioned case, at least for me. Pity is that the plugin restrictions for parts have not been fixed in the 2K7a update. Only TGTools do work. Or is it because I have the full version? Rafael J PS.- Hi, Dennis From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, FinWin 2K7, WinXP. Select area, choose from menu Mass Edit, Music Spacing, Apply Note Spacing to Current Part/Score. It seems to have no effect on the selected area. Apply Beat Spacing and Apply Time Signature Spacing do work. However, if I right click on the selected area and choose Music Spacing, Apply Note Spacing, it does work. Have I missed a behavior change, or does this just not work from the menu? Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Drum roll lines....how far should you extend the line?
According to Ted Ross (p. 197), The wavy sign extends and ends above the last affected note and not the duration of the last note. Rafael Leonardo Junchaya I'm not sure what the standard rule concerning how far you extend the trill extension line for a drum roll. Should the line end exactly OVER the next note? Or should you extend it for the value of the note that it's meant to be played? Thanks much! Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Group names
I'm working on a score where the piano player changes to celesta in the middle of the piece, and the instrument name I'm using is Piano, as it is the first one used. There won't be problems with the part, as the group name is not showing there, but in the score I need to change the group name to Celesta and there is no way to apply a Staff style to a group. In Finale 2007, after applying system optimization, I can create new groups (and their group names) where I need them, but in Finale 2006 (and I need to send this file in that format) I don't see an easy way to accomplish this (unless it implies working with two grand staves, one for the piano and the other for the celesta, which will be hidden accordingly at optimization time) Is there any other way to get this? Thank you all Rafael Leonardo Junchaya ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Insert measures bug (was Confirm 2 bugs some time ago)
FinWin 2k7b This has been commented before, but now I faced this bug. In a file (created in Fin2k, edited thru every version until 2k7b) of a piece for orchestra, about 250 measures, I decided to insert some music at the beggining (some 25 measures). I worked this measures in a different file (I balnaked my original file and saved it with another name, just to retain everything) and when I tried to insert the new measures in my original file, Finale just crashed (in fact, it just closed without notice) once, twice, everytime. I tested saving clip files but nothing worked, the same chrashing every time. Then I remembered that I was playing with the piccolo part (I mean, I created this linked part only to try some formatting) and thought this could be the annoying thing. I deleted it and voilà, I could insert the music without problems. I guess there's still some (should I say a lot of?) work to do with linked parts. For sure, they could be useful in some circomstances, but might become a pain in the butt in another. So, if some of you got the same trouble, maybe this info coulb be useful. Rafael L. Junchaya ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] F2K7 no standard playback setup
You were right ... it wasn't a custom install, but the soundfont was indeed missing from the component files. I dragged the one from the Finale 2006 folder and it works fine. Thanks much! Dennis Dennis, instead of copying from the Fin2006 folder, copy it from the Finale folder in the installation disk, as this file has been improved (at least it's a bit larger) Rafael Junchaya ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Test, do not open
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Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
There is another way, but tedious (tho it did not take me much time), of getting bariolage beaming: using several Special tools, that might be useful in certain situations (don't know which, indeed): - First, input the notes as there were no bariolage involved (just the 16th notes) - Apply Couble/Split Stem Tool to change stem direction of desired notes. - Hide undesired stems (with Beam Stem Adjust Tool or with a blank stem with the Custom Stem Tool) - Reduce long bems with Beam Extension Tool as necessary. Yes, it's too much work, but you get what you want. I think this can be copied with Mass Edit or Robert Patterson's Mass Copy. You can check the result at http://www.geocities.com/rjunchaya/pub/Bariolage.jpg Hope it works for you Rafael Junchaya ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] String harmonics playback in 2k11b
Hello everyone. This is slightly off the former topic on string harmonics. I am facing problems with string harmonics playback in FinWin 2011b. I used to create harmonics (artificial) with TGTools and they used to playback according to what was expected. I skipped Finale 2009 and 2010, and now in 2011 I have found that they are now playing back as they should (they sound as chords). I have checked HP preferences and I'm sure the String harmonics toggle is on (in Custom HP), but no change at all. I have also tried with GPO and the built in midi bank. Is there anyting missing somewhere? Or is it a bug in this version? On the other hand, (and unfortunately I cannot test it now), what would be the best approach for writing natural harmonics that playback? (I mean, not writing the resulting note with a o over, but writing the diamond shaped note alone with the indication of the string when necessary) Thanks for your replies, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya :rjunch...@yahoo.com http://www.myspace.com/rjunchaya +358 452791949 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] String harmonics playback in 2k11b
Thanks, Jari. You were absolutely right, that was the problem. But I still don't know what would be the best way to write sounding natural harmonics, i. e., those where just the diamond shape note is shown (assuing or stating the corresponding open string). I used to do it in the second layer, applied then TGTools to make the shape and create the sounding note, copy then for Layer 1 and zeroing its midi volume, and finlly hiding Layer 2. Well, that also works in FinWin2k11, but I think it's a bit too much effort. If you know an easier approach, let us all know, please. But thanks again, Jari. And it's very nice to read you and all the old Finale List partners here around (yeah, I've been 'out' some time...) Rafael Leonardo Junchaya :rjunch...@yahoo.com http://www.myspace.com/rjunchaya +358 452791949 De: Jari Williamsson jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se Para: finale@shsu.edu Enviado: jue, diciembre 16, 2010 11:59:43 PM Asunto: Re: [Finale] String harmonics playback in 2k11b On 2010-12-14 10:27, Rafael L. Junchaya wrote: This is slightly off the former topic on string harmonics. I am facing problems with string harmonics playback in FinWin 2011b. I used to create harmonics (artificial) with TGTools and they used to playback according to what was expected. I skipped Finale 2009 and 2010, and now in 2011 I have found that they are now playing back as they should (they sound as chords). I have checked HP preferences and I'm sure the String harmonics toggle is on (in Custom HP), but no change at all. I have also tried with GPO and the built in midi bank. Is there anyting missing somewhere? Or is it a bug in this version? To me, it sounds like you have a staff name that isn't recognized as a string name. That's needed for HP playback AFAIK. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
{Spam} Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability
Thanks, Robert, no need to reply, I found your earlier post: I sent a similar reply a while back, but I never saw it come thru. For music without a key sig, use Chromatic Transposition. For must with a key sig. use standard Transposition as follows: 1. Set the horn staves to Independent Key Signature. 2. Set the horn staves to F Transposition. 3. Set the key signature of the Horn staves to F Major throughout, irrespective of the true key(s) of the piece. That will do it. Rafael Leonardo Junchaya :rjunch...@yahoo.com http://www.myspace.com/rjunchaya +358 452791949 De: Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com Para: finale@shsu.edu Enviado: dom, enero 2, 2011 2:55:13 AM Asunto: Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability Finale correctly handles all accidentals if you use Chromatic Transposition, provided the piece as a whole does not have a key signature. If the piece as a whole does have a key signature, you should not be using Chromatic Transposition. There is a better way in that case. On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: Darcy, You sent me a summary of the issues with accidentals when using Chromatic Transposition once a while ago, and I regret to say that I have misplaced it. For me (and so that I can check if it is still the case and thus harass MakeMusic about it) could you summarise again? Go ahead and send it to the list, because everyone should know this. I found a few issues, but I know you do most of your own pieces without key signatures, so you must know them all. Thanks, and have a great coming year! Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
{Spam} Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability
Hi, Robert. Would you give me a hint on the better way to handle this situation please? Thanks!! Rafael Leonardo Junchaya :rjunch...@yahoo.com http://www.myspace.com/rjunchaya +358 452791949 De: Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com Para: finale@shsu.edu Enviado: dom, enero 2, 2011 2:55:13 AM Asunto: Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability Finale correctly handles all accidentals if you use Chromatic Transposition, provided the piece as a whole does not have a key signature. If the piece as a whole does have a key signature, you should not be using Chromatic Transposition. There is a better way in that case. On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: Darcy, You sent me a summary of the issues with accidentals when using Chromatic Transposition once a while ago, and I regret to say that I have misplaced it. For me (and so that I can check if it is still the case and thus harass MakeMusic about it) could you summarise again? Go ahead and send it to the list, because everyone should know this. I found a few issues, but I know you do most of your own pieces without key signatures, so you must know them all. Thanks, and have a great coming year! Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)
I remember that the changes made in the default file applied also to the Setup Wizzard. I have changed the page sizes, in the score and parts, of the Maestro default file, also in the Engraver document style files, from Letter to A4, which we use here. I have also moved the A4-page size definition in pagesizes.txt to the top of the list, but everytime I open the Setup Wizzard it insist in showing Letter as the default sizes for score and parts, even though it is the second in the list. Is there a way to really change the default size in the Setup Wizzard? I cannot explain this behaviour. Thanks for your replies. Rafael Leonardo Junchaya :rjunch...@yahoo.com http://www.myspace.com/rjunchaya +358 452791949 De: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca Para: finale@shsu.edu Enviado: sáb, enero 8, 2011 10:56:03 PM Asunto: Re: [Finale] default file I put my favourite default files in the Component Files folder, then they show up when I use the Setup Wizard as a style. Christopher On Sat Jan 8, at SaturdayJan 8 12:04 PM, Steve Parker wrote: If you make this change to your default file, it will always be there. This is a pretty basic question on my part.. Do most start from a 'new default' document then add the title info and instruments after? Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] {Spam} More bugs
I skipped Fin09 and Fin10, just to find there are some more bugs or undesired behaviours in Fin11 than in Fin08, apparently. I found that the the changes in the additional space applied to multimeasure rests do not stay. They actually change at first, just to change back after the next action. And another annoying bug is that even if I define a new rehearsal mark identical to one I am actually using in a score (you don't expect to have different styles in different movements in the same work, don't you?), the last one disappears after I close the file and the numbers continue the former rehearsal expression definition. I have not gone far trying to discover a way to correct this situation, but it is a very annoying and undesired bug. I'd better not use this version longer, or I'll keep finding more weird behaviours... Rafael Leonardo Junchaya :rjunch...@yahoo.com http://www.myspace.com/rjunchaya +358 452791949 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] {Spam} Measure numbers
I think this is a sort of a bug (as I don't think it is the intended behaviour). When in Program Options/View, Display defined measure numbers is selected, and at the same time, some measures in the score are forced not to be included in the numbering, some processes linked to measures (like changing clefs, measure widths, breaking multimeasure rests and page breaks definitions) do work in the wrong place. It seems that someone forgot to consider those avoided measures in the maths for calculating the processes. Nevertheless, when Display actual measure numbers is selected in the Program options, no such weird behaviours are noticed. Fortunately, it seems that the measure numbers regions themselves are not affected. But this is very annoying. Rafael Leonardo Junchaya :rjunch...@yahoo.com http://www.myspace.com/rjunchaya +358 452791949 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
{Spam} Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)
Oh, this is simply amazing... I have followed every suggestion here. I have
changed the page sizes in every doc style and default file, I have edited the
pagesizes.txt file, but I don't get but Letter size by default and it does not
change whatever doc style I select. I went even further: renamed Letter to
Carta
(Spanish name) and move it to the bottom of the list in pagesizes.txt. Now,
when
I open the Setup Wizzard it reads Carta by default, eventhough it's the last
name on the list. I am suspecting that the default size (8,5 x 11 in) is
hardcoded in the programme itself, and this is overriding the (former) function
of the pagesizes.txt file. I forgot to mention, I am in FinWin2k11b
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De: Florence + Michael launay-c...@gmx.net
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Enviado: dom, enero 9, 2011 3:57:43 PM
Asunto: Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)
In that case, the pagesizes.txt that Finale is using is not the one you edited.
The page sizes menu in the Setup Wizard is constructed from the pagesizes.txt
file. On Mac, if you're using Finale 2011, you have to edit the file in the
library in your user folder, not in the main library.
Michael
On 9 Jan 2011, at 14:41, Steve Parker wrote:
What page size is selected _before_ you select String Quartet?
Letter
Once you have got the page sizes menu to read A4, can you still find US
Letter
in it if you click on it?
Yes - and all the others deleted from my 'pagesizes.txt'
Steve
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Re: [Finale] More bugs
Oh, thanks Christopher. I didn't remember this option (Automatic update of
multimeasure numbers). Maybe it was off by default before.
The issue with rehearsal letters/numbers is this one: I have a multi movement
work. Each movement starts with rehearsal number 1, so I create a different
sequenced expression for each movement (of course, they look the same, but the
sequences have to be different). When I am, for instance, workin in the second
movement with a new sequenced expression, everything looks fine, but after
saving, closing and reopening the file, the rehearsal number expression of the
second movement is gone, the numbers are there still in place, but they follow
the former sequence, from the first movement. I thought it was realted to the
fact that I first just duplicated the expression, so I created a new one. I
worked in one case, but not in others, so I cannot tell exactly what the
situation is, except that it is a very weird and annoying behaviour, as I have
to reassign all the numbers of the actual movement I am working every time I
reopen the file.
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De: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca
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Enviado: dom, enero 9, 2011 11:54:16 PM
Asunto: Re: [Finale] {Spam} More bugs
To make measures rest keep their size, turn OFF Automatic Music Spacing.
Spacing
the music always resets measure widths.
Are you using auto-sequencing rehearsal letters? If you want ONE odd one, you
have to make it NON sequencing. I copy the appearance of the sequencing ones,
except to make it non-sequencing.
Christopher
On Sun Jan 9, at SundayJan 9 4:35 PM, Rafael L. Junchaya wrote:
I skipped Fin09 and Fin10, just to find there are some more bugs or undesired
behaviours in Fin11 than in Fin08, apparently. I found that the the changes
in
the additional space applied to multimeasure rests do not stay. They actually
change at first, just to change back after the next action. And another
annoying
bug is that even if I define a new rehearsal mark identical to one I am
actually
using in a score (you don't expect to have different styles in different
movements in the same work, don't you?), the last one disappears after I
close
the file and the numbers continue the former rehearsal expression definition.
I
have not gone far trying to discover a way to correct this situation, but it
is
a very annoying and undesired bug.
I'd better not use this version longer, or I'll keep finding more weird
behaviours...
Rafael Leonardo Junchaya
:rjunch...@yahoo.com
http://www.myspace.com/rjunchaya
+358 452791949
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[Finale] Pointer error?
FinWin 2005b Well, I've been with Finale since v.2.0. I remember some issues with filenames with Spanish ñ and accents (the files were deleted when trying to save them), but always had a backup. Now, I lost several hours of working when something very weird happened. I was working on an new file where I pasted some 60 measures of a piece for string quartet I had in another file create in FinWin 2002. Every was going fine, saving my work now and then. I played back the file and my computer froze after clicking stop. We'll I think it could have been some memory issue (actually I've got 256 MB, of course an upgrade is mandatory), it's happened before. I rebooted the machine, ran Finale and tried to open my file, and got this warning: Cannot set position in file and following (in Spanish, so it's a Windows warning): An attempt was made to move the file pointer before the begining of the file, whic is Windows error 0x0083. I turned to open the backup, and got the same warning. I simply lost my file (and my hours work!) I tried to open the file in Finale 2006 demo, and found in the same situation. I don't undestand why this happened, nor I kown if there's anything I could do to rescue my file. Any suggestions...? Rafael Junchaya PS.- In case someone wants to try opening my file, I've uploaded it zipped into http://www.geocities.com/rjunchaya/pub/corrupted.zip . 68,3 kb ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] FinWin 2006 Measure numbering bugs?
I'm experiencing this annoying behaviours in Finale 2006 (Windows XP P4 2GHz): By default, new files include one defined region (from m. 1 to 999). I've selected to display defined measure numbers at Program Options - View, and in past versions it always worked fine, displaying a combination of two numbers (A:B) showing region and number, or a single number with a # sign, when there was no region definition for that measure. In WinFin2006, instead, when I define a second region (or more), then every measure number displays with the # in front. I can navigate into a desired measure typing in A:B combination, but the display is still the same (#A way) Besides, it's been a great idea for sure to have the chance not to include some measures in the numbering system in a region (Measure Attributes - Include in Measure Numbering check box), but, why can't this be set for a whole selected region? If you have several cadenza (or similar) measure you want to hide from numbering (that's my case), you have to select each, right-click, select Edit Measure Attributes, and click the appropriate check box, for every single measure I hope someone could replicate these behaviours and confirm these are new bugs. Rafael Junchaya ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinWin 2006 Measure numbering bugs?
Ok, Aaron, that's right (it's my XP skin that doesn't show greyed check boxes!!) I'll write to Winsupport to report these bugs (I'll try to find out more cases as you have described) Rafael Junchaya At any rate, there is a bug in here somewhere; please write to Winsupport. It can, at least for me. Select the Measure Tool, select several measures, double-click on the selected measures (or right-click, Edit Measure Attributes), and set the Include in Measure Numbering box appropriately. For me, the first click changed the checkbox to grayed, and the second click cleared it. This is a small bug, but not a terrible one. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Bug report - Slurs between layers between systems - 2006PC
I'm afraid I cannot replicate this bug. I'm on Finale 2006 for Windows. Did you mean subsequent "staves" instead of "systems" maybe? Are those into the same staff group? Rafael J Subject: [Finale] Bug report - Slurs between layers between systems - 2006PC Good morning! Just discovered this disturbing bug, easily replicated:* Finale2006 PC* for two subsequent systems* create a slur between a note in layer1 in the first system to a note in layer2 in the second system* the slur does not appear on the first system, only on the bottom system. I guess I have to go back to using Finale2005 so that I'm not wasting my time making imperfect scores in Finale2006 :(Okay, thanks for taking care of this promptly.~matt van brink[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mozart Choral Symphony
I don't know of any "choral" symphony by Mozart, and I don't on that collection on LP either, but it might help you to visit http://www.hogwood.org/rlp.htmwhere you would fnd the Christopher Hogwood's LP recordings catalogue, and you might compare it with the CD content listing. Rafael Junchaya - Original Message - I am hoping that thecollective wisdom of the list can help me. When Christopher Hogwood recorded his Complete Mozart Symphonies project for Decca, there was a "choral" symphony included with the boxed album set. This was an early symphony from the Italian opera tours. For reasons I'm not sure, this piece was not included on the CD box sets. Can anyone help identify this particular piece with a Kochel number?Thanks so much. K. Patrick Clow ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
