[Finale] JW plugins (Mac)
Since upgrading to Finale 2014 I have been unable to use my JW plugins. How do I copy them from my Finale 2012 to Finale 2014? Mac OS 10.9.4 Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] 2014b
Hi Chuck I have the same problem. I use the keystrokes to select the tools and I have to use the tool palett a lot less. Mark McCarron On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:48 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Trying 2014b and finding some of the bugs are now fixed - some playback bugs and erratic scrolling, for example. But I am still suffering with the minuscule tool pallet. I can't be the only one who misses the old choices. I do understand that minimizing the size has to do with folks who use Finale on laptops, but that lack of choice irritates me. My eyesight is not bad but it's still a lot harder to locate tools in 2014 than it used to be in previous versions. Chuck Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] upgrade info
I'm currently using Fin 2012 on a macpro. os 10.6.8 (snow leopard). My current set up is very stable. In order to upgrade to Fin 2014 I need to upgrade the OS. Should I go 10.7 10.8 or 10.9? I also have Logic Pro 9 and DP 7 using mostly native plugins. with EZ drummer. Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] ending text and coda signs
when I create a doc from setup wizard add a brass section and create a repeat with 1st 2nd ending and coda sign. The coda sign isnt in the linked parts. Shouldn't show endings and text repeats be on as a default? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] mach five 2
Is anyone using mach five 2 with finale 2012? I get a loud buzz whenever I try to load an instrument. Finmac2012 OS 10.6.8 quadcore intel macpro. Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Transpositions in linked parts
this is great. I'll get some use from this. Thanks for posting. Mark McCarron From: Brian Appleby brian...@me.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Transpositions in linked parts You can create all the parts you want in scroll view, then hide the ones you don't want in the score. The hidden parts all still appear in scroll view but will not appear in the page view score or the printed score. They CAN be used to create linked parts. I use this all the time for things like a baritone t.c. part in concert band pieces - I want to have the linked part, but I don't want it cluttering up the score. I also use it to create things like separate clarinet 1 and clarinet 2 parts if I want them together in the score, but separate as parts. To hide a part in scroll view, just double click on the staff with the staff tool chosen to bring up the staff attributes dialog box. From here can choose force hide staff in the left hand column. Also choose in score only from the pop up menu beside it. By using the pop up menu at the top of this dialog box, you can choose all the staves you want to hide in one operation. You can enter all your music in your A, B, C parts, then just copy and paste in scroll view to get each part into the various parts you want to have playing that music. The A B C parts can be in concert pitch and they will transpose automatically as you paste them into each transposing hidden staff that you have set up. For best results use the score manager to add the extra parts - that way all the transpositions will be set up for you automatically. This can give you a lot of extra lines in the scroll view score, but only the parts you have not hidden (your A, B, C parts) will appear in the page view score. So even if your score has only six parts, you can have any number of linked parts based on those. Also, spacing of staves is completely independent in the two views, so you can just space the scroll view staves nice and evenly, and it won't affect any formatting you do in page view. I think this is a fantastic capability in Finale, one of the most useful things they have added. Brian Appleby ApRo Music On 2012-12-08, at 8:43 PM, Ralph Whitfield wrote: Fellow listers, I have been racking my brain and scouring the documentation but I can't get the answer to my dilemma that I swear exists. I want to write some charts/arrangements where I have four, five or six parts, i.e. parts A, B, C, etc. I want to create multiple parts from each part: i.e. Part A will have parts for C Flute, Bb Clarinet, Trumpet 1 in Bb, Trumpet 1 in Eb, etc. I would rather only have the original parts in the score and only have to deal with the transposed parts as the linked parts. I have tried multiple ways to create differently transposed parts from the same source all to no avail. Is there some way to do this without having to have multiple parts in the score? Thanks, Ralph -- Ralph W. Whitfield, Jr. Bass Trombonist - Gadsden Symphony Orchestra 2nd Trombone - Rome (GA) Symphony Orchestra Bass Trombone - Kings of Swing www.rainbowbrassmusic.com Trombonist by Nature, Engineer by Necessity. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day
this looks like something very useful. Mark McCarron From: Andrew Levin ale...@clemson.edu To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day Mark McCarron wrote: the tile command puts one window on the top half and the other window on the bottom half. Is there a quick way to position one window on the left and the other window on the right? I respond: On Mac there's Moom, a great shareware utility. You can do side by side, top to bottom, and even pre-define different window size combinations. It's quite handy to have, in a number of settings. It works with all apps. http://manytricks.com/moom/ (Get the version from the website, not the Mac App Store, since the latter has limitations due to Apple's new sandboxing policy). On sale for just $5 right now. Andrew Levin PS - I have no connection with this company except as a user ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day
there is a key command that switches (toggles) from score to last viewed part in the same window. For me this works much better. Mark McCarron From: Fiskum, Steve fisk...@jspaluch.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day The only long standing bug with these windows is that when in Show Active Layer Only you cannot switch layers in any of the windows which can be a pain when copying percussion articulations. Steve On 6/21/12 4:18 PM, Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you, MakeMusic, today's tip of the day is a linked parts editing speed-up nonpareil for me! http://blog.finalemusic.com/post/2012/06/20/Finale-Linked-Parts-Tip.aspx Has this one been through this group earlier and I missed it? Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day
the tile command puts one window on the top half and the other window on the bottom half. Is there a quick way to position one window on the left and the other window on the right? Mark McCarron From: Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day I have used the toggle up until now. I can now see the immediate effect having the new window open and the two tiled and am able to make adjustments more easily and precisely. As with anything, I suppose, each person's mileage will differ? Michael mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ From: Mark McCarron mmcg...@yahoo.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day there is a key command that switches (toggles) from score to last viewed part in the same window. For me this works much better. Mark McCarron From: Fiskum, Steve fisk...@jspaluch.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day The only long standing bug with these windows is that when in Show Active Layer Only you cannot switch layers in any of the windows which can be a pain when copying percussion articulations. Steve On 6/21/12 4:18 PM, Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you, MakeMusic, today's tip of the day is a linked parts editing speed-up nonpareil for me! http://blog.finalemusic.com/post/2012/06/20/Finale-Linked-Parts-Tip.aspx Has this one been through this group earlier and I missed it? Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Insert Notes Using MacBook Pro USB Keyboard
in speedy entry hold down the shift key and hit a number. a note or rest will be inserted before the cursor. or cmd I will toggle insert mode on/off Mark McCarron From: Michael Dutka mikedu...@gmail.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:50 PM Subject: [Finale] Insert Notes Using MacBook Pro USB Keyboard Hi, folks. Just switched from a PC laptop to a MacBook Pro, with a USB keyboard, and having problems with the silliest things. Like, the insert function. On a PC keyboard, it's just INS. I checked all the Mac groups, that talk about the FN key (which does nothing) and the Help key (which I don't have). What do folks with Mac's and USB keyboards do if they want to insert notes within a measure? Thanks and best, Michael Dutka ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Instant Orchestra
After installing Garritans Instant orchestra, Finale 2012 (mac OS 10.6) won't launch. Is the new Aria Player conflicting with the older one I have on my computer? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Instant Orchestra
Thanks That fixed the problem. Mark McCarron From: Young, Chris cyo...@makemusic.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Instant Orchestra Hi Mark, There was an issue with the soundmap file that came with the Instant Orchestra installer. The following article should get you up and running again: http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4992/kw/instant%20orchestra/session/L3RpbWUvMTMzNjU5MTg4Ni9zaWQvaWF5NDdJWGs%3D If not, make sure you've got the latest ARIA Player and engine (v. 1.128) which is available in the downloads section of your garritan.com account. Christopher Y. Notation Product Specialist MakeMusic, Inc. -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Mark McCarron Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 2:11 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Instant Orchestra After installing Garritans Instant orchestra, Finale 2012 (mac OS 10.6) won't launch. Is the new Aria Player conflicting with the older one I have on my computer? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin11 percussion - repost
I know. I use speedy entry too. It's far superior. But sometimes I need to edit guitar tab, for that I need simple entry. Mark McCarron From: Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Fin11 percussion - repost On 2/7/2012 12:11 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I haven't tried this but simple entry might work. Thanks, but I'm not interested in Simple Entry. I have always used Speedy with my computer keyboard, and according to the Finale docs, this method is supposed to work. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin11 percussion - repost
I'm assuming you are using the change octave keys K,I,and Mark McCarron From: Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Fin11 percussion - repost On 2/6/2012 11:52 AM, Mark McCarron wrote: when using speedy entry. You can engage the caps lock key and have the cursor jump from pitch to pitch using the qwerty keyboard. this might help? That's exactly the entry method I always use -- the 3-octave computer keyboard. My point is that it doesn't work for percussion entry in Fin11/12. Typing a pitch higher or lower than the pitch I'm currently on acts as if I hit the up or down arrow key -- the cursor jumps to the next higher or lower defined percussion note, not the specific pitch I typed. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin11 percussion - repost
I haven't tried this but simple entry might work. Mark McCarron From: Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Fin11 percussion - repost On 2/7/2012 9:52 AM, Mark McCarron wrote: I'm assuming you are using the change octave keys K,I,and They have no effect on this issue. Finale seems to treat the percussion staff as a treble staff for the purposes of percussion entry, so the bottom line is E4. If I try hitting E3 (regardless of how the octaves are mapped on my keyboard), then the cursor just keeps cycling through all of the mapped pitches on the staff (always moving downwards, then jumping back to the top), since no percussion pitch is mapped to E3. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin11 percussion - repost
when using speedy entry. You can engage the caps lock key and have the cursor jump from pitch to pitch using the qwerty keyboard. this might help? Mark McCarron From: Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Fin11 percussion - repost Hi all, I wanted to follow up on this for the list's benefit, now that I've played with it for a while. I tried following the instructions in the post Jonathan sent, but I couldn't really get it working. Though I do see the logic of what's going on. On the other hand, I did finally get things working to my satisfaction, for my setup. In reading this, keep in mind that I do Speedy with the computer keyboard in 3-octave mode, so things I say here may not apply to other entry methods. In the past, percussion maps let you specify what pitch you wanted to input, what pitch you wanted output, and where on the staff you wanted this instrument to display. In Fin11, by default the input pitch is the same as the staff display, so if you have an instrument set up to display on the third line of the staff, you would enter B4 to trigger this instrument (regardless of the instrument -- you can still define the playback instrument to be whatever you want). For me, this is perfect, since it's the setup I always want. In the past, I was always having to manually define the input pitch to match the staff display, so this is easier. (I think Jonathan's method may be designed for the case when you *don't* want input and display to be the same, so that you could have, for example, 5 adjacent keys on your MIDI keyboard triggering 5 different sounds which display on the 5 staff lines.) Another benefit is that in the past, during Speedy, the instrument that sounded during note entry corresponded to the MIDI in pitch I was playing, not the MIDI out pitch I had mapped. So I could be entering snare and toms but hearing whistles and guiros during input; it was only on playback that the map was applied and I got the right sounds. Now I hear the correct sounds during input. Another plus. The drawback -- and I think it's a pretty big one -- is that there is a bug related to my form of Speedy. In the piece I'm working on now, I've got 5 percussion instruments displaying on the 5 staff lines, so the input pitches I hit to get them are E4, G4, B4, D5, and F5. If I'm moving among adjacent lines, there's no problem. But if I've just entered a note on the top line and my next note is on the bottom line, hitting E4 only moves me down one line at a time -- I have to hit the key 4 times before I'm finally on the right line. In other words, entering a pitch higher or lower than my current location acts as though I've pressed the up or down arrow key, although the cursor will eventually come to rest on the desired staff location. There are some more nuances to this bug, and I'll take it up with support. Aaron. On 1/23/2012 1:32 PM, Jonathan Smith wrote: Hi Aaron, This is a minefield, but I found a post on the Makemusic website last year that helped me a lot in solving the problem but it is not easy! Jonathan Here is the post: All this assumes that you're able to get your MIDI sounds loaded and you can trigger the sounds via a MIDI keyboard/controller. Make sure you're controller is on the sounds you're wanting to assign. This will help tons. Also, I don't know if this is always the case, but I've found that you need to do all of this BEFORE you enter any notes. I don't know, that's just how it seems to work for me. Anyway... *breath deep* 1—go to MIDI/AUDIO 2—DEVICE SETUP 3—EDIT PERCUSSION MIDI MAPS Once you're here, you're wanting to create your own map so: 4—choose NEW and give it a title, like myMidiMaps or anything 5—now you need to give the map you're creating a name (easyOrchestral, for example) Now: 6—click on SELECT A NOTE TYPE TO ADD... 7—choose your instrument label, let's say SNARE DRUM 8—now press the ADD NOTE TYPE button (an unnecessary step in my opinion) Once this is placed in the box, you now need to assign what note on your keyboard this is getting assigned to. Start pushing keys on your MIDI keyboard/controller until you come to the sound you're wanting to use. You should've noticed that under the MIDI NOTE column, the number was changing. This is the specific MIDI note that you're going to trigger with this label. Repeat steps 6—8 for your other sounds. Be sure to pay attention to what you're labeling them (what's going into the NOTE TYPE column. You'll need to use this later. When you get all your sounds assigned a label, corresponding to a MIDI NOTE, press OK. Now: 9—click on the STAFF TOOL 10—click on the staff you're wanting to assign your map to open up the STAFF ATTRIBUTES dialogue box 11—for NOTATION STYLE, choose PERCUSSION 12—click on SELECT next to PERCUSSION 13
Re: [Finale] Copying/pasting many times [was: Re: Re: OT - Graphic Score Tools]
on a mac it's opt.control Mark McCarron From: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, January 6, 2012 10:03 AM Subject: [Finale] Copying/pasting many times [was: Re: Re: OT - Graphic Score Tools] On 1/6/2012 9:49 AM, Benjamin Ayotte wrote: I have been after Finale for some time to develop a graphics-only version that would effectively convert its workspace to something analogous to a vector drawing program and allow layers to be defined and elements to be moved and stretched. This would make the creation of Schenker sketches so much easier. I, also, do as much as I can in Finale (which is quite a lot) and then import into photoshop for circles, brackets and such. I don't know a whole lot about programming, but I can't believe that this would be all that difficult. I wonder if Jari Williamsson would be able to develop one of his awesome plug-ins for this? Maybe a limited palette of symbols for a Schenker Plugin. And on another note, when did Finale stop asking how many times? when you copied a measure of music? This would have made my drum part so much less time-consuming. What seems like it would be easy and what is actually easy in programming applications are quite often very different. The same for what would seem difficult and is actually easy. Only programmers know for certain, and there are a number of factors why I doubt that Finale will ever come out with a graphics-only mode for doing what you ask. I'm not a programmer either, but conversations I've had with programmers in the past have shown me that my concept of easy and difficult have no relationship to reality in a programmer's world. Regarding copying more than once, isn't there a certain additional modifier key needed to be held down to accomplish that? I just checked on my WinFin2012 installation and sure enough ctrl-v pastes once, but ctrl-alt-v brings up the how many times dialog. I don't know what the combination would be on Mac but I'm sure it's similar. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] more font hell
I just upgraded from Fin 2012 to 2012a I getting the font gobbly gooks. intel macpro OS 10.6.8 what can I do to correct this? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] more font hell
I fixed the problem with clearfontcache Mark McCarron From: Mark McCarron mmcg...@yahoo.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: [Finale] more font hell I just upgraded from Fin 2012 to 2012a I getting the font gobbly gooks. intel macpro OS 10.6.8 what can I do to correct this? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Beginner's woes
It would be easier to add staves to the score for Eb,Bb, etc... then the part names would be displayed properly. Mark McCarron From: Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Beginner's woes Hi Aron, I've just thought of what it might be - the stuff I'm doing is based on earlier files made in Fin2006 so it may be something in the conversion process. I've just made a simple file in 2012 and extracted the part - perfect! Right, it sounds like it's the conversion that's at fault. Ah well, only five more to do! Thanks for your help - it is appreciated. -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] change instrument
thanks I'll try this. Mark McCarron From: Phillips, Justin jphill...@makemusic.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] change instrument Try this as a workaround. I've submitted this as a feature request as well. Would it be helpful if the Change Instrument brought up a list of the sounds available instead, like in the ScoreManager? 1) Select the Selection Tool 2) Click where the change needs to be made 3) Go to Utilities Menu Change Instrument 4) Select Blank Staff Blank Staff 5) Go to Window Menu ScoreManager 6) Click the Arrow next to the Staff name (Trumpet for example) 7) At the bottom of the expanded list after the layer info and all, click on the staff named Blank Staff. This is the change. 8) Change the transposition to Bb up M2 (for a trumpet for example) then click on Device JABB 3. Click on Sound And select the mute you want. If you don't see a JABB option under the Device listing send me an email and I'll send you the SoundMap. Justin Phillips Notation Product Specialist MakeMusic, Inc On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I was hoping this command would solve the problem of switching brass mutes. However the only instruments available under this command are the Finale included ones, not the JABB instruments that I have installed. Fin2012 mac Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list [1]Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale References 1. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] font hell
In setup wizard I didn't see Finale font as an option, so I installed the postscript fonts that I'd skipped in my original install of fin2012 mac. (Bad idea) Now my existing charts done in Broadway font are a mess. (The engraver font charts are fine)How do I go back? Mark McCarron From: Mark McCarron mmcg...@yahoo.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 11:15 PM Subject: [Finale] change instrument I was hoping this command would solve the problem of switching brass mutes. However the only instruments available under this command are the Finale included ones, not the JABB instruments that I have installed. Fin2012 mac Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] change instrument
I think you can do this without keyswitching as JABB has separate samples for open horn and various mutes. Mark McCarron From: Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] change instrument Thank you, Justin. This is the kind of process I had imagined might work. Of course, it requires access to the full JABB sounds, wherein you can find individual samples of various brass mutes. Experience with the unreliability of HP for this has discouraged me from using it. What you describe sounds worth trying. Thanks again, Chuck Sent from my iPhone On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:46 AM, Phillips, Justin jphill...@makemusic.com wrote: Try this as a workaround. I've submitted this as a feature request as well. Would it be helpful if the Change Instrument brought up a list of the sounds available instead, like in the ScoreManager? 1) Select the Selection Tool 2) Click where the change needs to be made 3) Go to Utilities Menu Change Instrument 4) Select Blank Staff Blank Staff 5) Go to Window Menu ScoreManager 6) Click the Arrow next to the Staff name (Trumpet for example) 7) At the bottom of the expanded list after the layer info and all, click on the staff named Blank Staff. This is the change. 8) Change the transposition to Bb up M2 (for a trumpet for example) then click on Device JABB 3. Click on Sound And select the mute you want. If you don't see a JABB option under the Device listing send me an email and I'll send you the SoundMap. Justin Phillips Notation Product Specialist MakeMusic, Inc On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I was hoping this command would solve the problem of switching brass mutes. However the only instruments available under this command are the Finale included ones, not the JABB instruments that I have installed. Fin2012 mac Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list [1]Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale References 1. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] change instrument
Hi Justin I don't see a JABB option under the Device listing. I do see aria player. Mark McCarron From: Phillips, Justin jphill...@makemusic.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] change instrument Try this as a workaround. I've submitted this as a feature request as well. Would it be helpful if the Change Instrument brought up a list of the sounds available instead, like in the ScoreManager? 1) Select the Selection Tool 2) Click where the change needs to be made 3) Go to Utilities Menu Change Instrument 4) Select Blank Staff Blank Staff 5) Go to Window Menu ScoreManager 6) Click the Arrow next to the Staff name (Trumpet for example) 7) At the bottom of the expanded list after the layer info and all, click on the staff named Blank Staff. This is the change. 8) Change the transposition to Bb up M2 (for a trumpet for example) then click on Device JABB 3. Click on Sound And select the mute you want. If you don't see a JABB option under the Device listing send me an email and I'll send you the SoundMap. Justin Phillips Notation Product Specialist MakeMusic, Inc On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I was hoping this command would solve the problem of switching brass mutes. However the only instruments available under this command are the Finale included ones, not the JABB instruments that I have installed. Fin2012 mac Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list [1]Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale References 1. mailto:Finale@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] change instrument
I was hoping this command would solve the problem of switching brass mutes. However the only instruments available under this command are the Finale included ones, not the JABB instruments that I have installed. Fin2012 mac Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Addng audio file
If the audio has been recorded to a click. It will play back in time with the notation in Finale. I record the audio in Digital Performer (any DAW would work) save it as a midifile open the midifile in Finale and import the audio. (The midifile contains the tempo information necessary to keep the audio in sync). You then add staves and write the orchestration. Mark McCarron --- On Sat, 3/26/11, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com Subject: [Finale] Addng audio file To: Finale finale@shsu.edu Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 1:49 PM using FINMAC 2010 I have a Roland VP-550 ---voice synthesizer keyboard. When you sing into a mic connected to it, it sings back--in real time-- as a choir, words and all. I want to use it to record the choral parts of choral arrangements I have written, in some cases with just piano, others with orchestrations. I'm still reading but I dont quite understand the help files explanation of how to lay in an audio file, I expect not to understand how to then sync the Finale-created parts to the audio file. And tips welcome! Richard ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] beaming question
try
document optionsbeaming
Mark
--- On Mon, 1/10/11, dc den...@free.fr wrote:
From: dc den...@free.fr
Subject: {Spam} Re: [Finale] beaming question
To: finale@shsu.edu, finale@shsu.edu
Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 3:32 PM
Aaron Sherber écrit:
Make sure your time signature is 6 x eighth note, not
2 x dotted quarter. Or use Utilities | Rebeam to Time
Signature to accomplish this.
That was my first idea - but then three 8ths don't get
beamed together.
I want:
8 8 8 beamed (in the same beat, of course)
but not
8 _ 8
(where 8 = 8th note and _= 8th rest)
Dennis
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Re: [Finale] document styles?
thanks this fixed it. Mark McCarron --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Florence + Michael launay-c...@gmx.net wrote: From: Florence + Michael launay-c...@gmx.net Subject: Re: [Finale] document styles? To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 3:35 AM This is a recognised bug in Finale 2011. The configuration files have a new location in Finale 2011. Finale should copy all the necessary files to ~user/Library/Application Support/MakeMusic/Finale 2011/ but in some cases this doesn't work correctly. To make things worse, there are several pages in the manual that still give the old location (I've alerted MakeMusic about this). The solution is to be found here: http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4085/ Download the copyFinale2011files.tool from the link on that page and run it. All the best, Michael On 24 Jul 2010, at 22:55, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: Your problem appears to be similar to an oddity in my installations of FM2011 on my 2 OS10.6.4 Macs. Only the very application Finale 2011 goes to the applications’s folder. The Finale 2011 folder sits in a Library folder in what is called klaussmedgaardbjerre’s personal computer, where it cannot be searched by Finder’s search function. FM2011 works for me but for the fact that I cannot create new documents with the set-up wizard. My work-around is working from a template, which I can expand by means of the set-up wizard. As I see it this is bug in FM2011. Klaus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] document styles?
in order to change the default document styles the manual says to save the file in Finale 2011/Music Files/Document Styles folder this file does not exist on my Macpro OS10.6. What am I missing.? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] where did auto harmonize go?
I upgraded my mac to a macpro OS 10.6.3. I'm usinf Finale 2010b.r1. I can't find the auto harmonize plug in. Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] mac OS 10.6 and JABB
I have a new macpro on order. Will Kontact2 player and JABB work with this new system? -Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Open Recent
I wish I could clear some of the files from the open recent list. Is there a way to do this? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Edit Open Recent on a mac
I would like to prune the open recent list of file names. And get rid of the names that I will never want to open. Can I do this? OS 10.4.11 Fin 2010b Mark McCarron --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Mark McCarron mmcg...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Mark McCarron mmcg...@yahoo.com Subject: [Finale] Open Recent To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 10:19 AM I wish I could clear some of the files from the open recent list. Is there a way to do this? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] percussion map for EZdrummer
Has anyone done a percussion map for EZdrummer layout? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Handwritten library
OK so I want to use the new Handwritten Library in Fin 2010 (mac G5 tiger). But the #'s I use to assign the chord suffics are all different. Also the font size thruout the library is not consistant. So I fix the library save it ,open the handwritten default file in finale 2010component files delete the chords 1 by 1. and import the new library. I then save the handwritten default. Now I use setup wizard to start a new document and none of my changes are in the document. What am I doing wrong? thanks Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Handwritten library
Thank-you this is a big help. Mark Mccarron --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [Finale] Handwritten library To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 2:18 PM You need to save the changes to a file in the Document Styles folder and use that style. Default Files have effectively been replaced by Document Styles. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://secretsociety.typepad.com On 11 Dec 2009, at 11:44 AM, Mark McCarron wrote: OK so I want to use the new Handwritten Library in Fin 2010 (mac G5 tiger). But the #'s I use to assign the chord suffics are all different. Also the font size thruout the library is not consistant. So I fix the library save it ,open the handwritten default file in finale 2010component files delete the chords 1 by 1. and import the new library. I then save the handwritten default. Now I use setup wizard to start a new document and none of my changes are in the document. What am I doing wrong? thanks Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Chord manual input 2010
Fin 2010 mac 10.4.11 When entering chords in a measure with notes in it you press the spacebar to progress to the next note. Sometimes when I do this I get the layer pull down menu popping up. What's happening? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] JABB air noise
I'm getting air noise in my first flute part. I'm using the Kontact 2 player. I can manually turn it down, but the sound then plays with the air noise and as soon as I stop playback the rotary knob in Kontact 2 player turns to 100 again. I've tried setting the human playback to none but this isn't helping. What's going on? Mark McCarron finmac 2009 10.4.11 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Copying guitar tab
in the items to copy box you can specify Notehead , accidental and tablature string alterations Mark McCarron --- On Thu, 9/3/09, Stephen Lamb jstephenl...@jslweb.com wrote: From: Stephen Lamb jstephenl...@jslweb.com Subject: [Finale] Copying guitar tab To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 8:03 PM I have a friend working on a project using Finale Allegro. He came across a bug regarding TAB notation, and since I haven't used guitar notation, I wondered if anyone here had found a way around this. = Two staves, guitar notation and the associated TAB. Edit the TAB to proper strings and fret #'s and save. Copying a bar or more of both staves and pasting to another location on the same staves in the same doc. The notes are fine, the TAB reverts to the default low fret, undoing my saved edits. And it's not just Allegro. On the site re: Finale 2010 Specify the lowest fret to use as you paste. That defeats the purpose of copy/paste. Sibelius First works fine for this, and has no trouble recognizing and naming 5 chords (power chords with no 3rd) either. == Thanks, Stephen Lamb ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Comparing notation systems
why do they use a Finale example that hasn't had music spacing or update layout applied? Mark --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Daniel Wolf djw...@snafu.de wrote: From: Daniel Wolf djw...@snafu.de Subject: [Finale] Re: Comparing notation systems To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 3:42 AM David Fenton wrote: I'm particularly unimpressed with the stiff look of Lilypond output, which reminds me of Finale from the days of Petrucci. This is an interesting critique, considering that the main idea of Lilypond is emulating traditional handmade engraving. Have you read either the essay at the main Lilypond site (here: http://lilypond.org/web/about/automated-engraving/ (the Lilypond examples are very good, but unfortunately uses out-of-the-box Finale output as a strawman) or Andrew Hawryluk's essay, to which I previously linked? I also think it's quite interesting that most of the activity creating new notation apps is coming from parts of the world where Finale and Sibelius are very expensive. The conclusion seems quite obvious to me. What activity do you mean specifically? The alternative products in France, Sweden, and Hungary have been sent to open source, abandoned,or stalled (respectively). Of the latest applications MuseScore is arguably more a response to Lilypond. But you may well have a point with regard to the pricing of Finale and Sibelius in Germany, as Forte and PriMus (like MuseScore) originated in Germany and the local prices are high. Daniel Wolf ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] new computer lab
the school I teach at has a new music computer lab. Complete with 18 workstations imacs, m-audio keyboards and soundtree talkback headsets. Installed software includes Finale, Band in the box, DP, Protools, Auralia, Garageband. I'm looking for information newsgroups, blogs etc. that will help me deal with high school students, and come up with ideas for projects. thanks Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale2010 Manual still requires IE!
I don't understand. When I choose help from within the Finale menu Safari opens on ti's own. Of course I've never installed IE. But I do have Firefox. Mark Mccarron --- On Sat, 6/13/09, dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: From: dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale2010 Manual still requires IE! To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 5:02 PM Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Friends, Regarding the situation about which David W. Fenton wrote, which annoys some of us, namely that when one clicks on help from within Finale, the help files open in MS Internet explorer, there is an easy enough work-around. Don't open the help files by using the links from within Finale. The help files _will_ open just fine in other browsers, so I have my browser of choice set to open with it's home page as the beginning of the Finale Help system. (the machine I use for my MakeMusic work is not the machine on I normally use for on-line access, and I have the web browser installed mainly for other situations, so it's not particularly inconvenient on this machine to have it open to the Finale help files by default. If I want to access the help files, I just open the browser, rather than click the help button in Finale. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Yes, that's the workaround I've arrived at, also. But we shouldn't have to do that. And just for the record, lest David Fenton's name be connected to my sometimes crazy ravings, it was David Bailey who started this complaint. :-) -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6
I use a G5 2.7ghz dual OS 10.4.11 and Digital Performer 6.01. This runs well with Kontact 2 and Mach Five 2. In the past, notation (Finale) has not been the reason I buy a new computer. I guess I'll leave well enought alone. Mark McCarron --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Johannes Gebauer li...@musikmanufaktur.com wrote: From: Johannes Gebauer li...@musikmanufaktur.com Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 1:29 AM On 25.05.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: On 24 May 2009 at 19:21, Darcy James Argue wrote: It's been three and a half years since the Intel Macs were first introduced, which is practically an eternity in tech-years. You are going to see a lot of new software dropping PPC support soon. There's history on this. After the switch to PPC, how long was it before Mac software dropped support for the Motorola chips (whatever the class of them was called)? Without any intention of making this a platform war: Yes, you are right. It also means that the current Mac System doesn't carry much weight from the past. I have just ordered my new MacBook, as my ancient iBook is finally showing its age (the HD was beginning to fail). I will probably have to replace some of my software in the process. Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6
Sibelius 6 requires Core Duo or better, 1GB+ total physical RAM (2GB recommended), 3.5GB total hard disk space Those of us who still use G5s would have to upgrade before using Sibelius 6. Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius (6 chord size)
I recently had to increase the all of the chord suffics in a piece (in Finale) and I expected to have to resize and respace all of the chords seperatly. To my suprise there is a way do do it all at once. Mark McCarron --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: From: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 8:30 AM On May 22, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Sibelius and Makemusic both understand that most of their user base are casual users. No shame in that. But it is true that Sibelius works better for the casual user - by design - than Finale does. And while there have been improvements in Finale's defaults, there is still much room for improvement and there is shame in that. Christopher Here I go talking to myself, arguing with myself to make it worse... Actually, one area I see with my students is that Sibelius' default size for chord symbols is TINY. That is a default file problem. However, when I ask them to increase it, no problem; it's a very easy fix in Sibelius. But try to do the same thing in Finale with one of the JazzCord libraries... whoa! There, I just argued with myself, gave point, counterpoint and rebuttal, and I think I won the argument! Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius (6 chord size)
the chord suffixs used the Jazz font, and I used the change chord suffix fonts in the chord menu. I checked the Fix Chord Suffix Spacing and it worked like a charm. Mark McCarron --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: From: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius (6 chord size) To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 12:18 PM If you are using the Engraver default with the Arial suffixes, this can be done. But did you do this with the JazzCord library? If you increase the font size, the kerning is off and every item is mashed together. If you are using the library that ONLY has the individual JazzCord glyphs, then of course it is easy. But if you have the library loaded that has each suffix broken into different characters, then it is hell. I have kludged it before by attaching the chords to hidden Layer 4 items, then resizing ALL of Layer 4. This is nice, because the chord suffixes keep their kerning when you just zoom them. I have also attached them to another staff, which I have hidden with a staff style and resized, then I dragged the hidden staff down to be superimposed over the real staff. This is good for lead sheets, but it gets kludgy in extracted/linked parts. Quite a bit different from the one-click solution in Sibelius. Christopher On 22-May-09, at 22-May-09 12:10 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I recently had to increase the all of the chord suffics in a piece (in Finale) and I expected to have to resize and respace all of the chords seperatly. To my suprise there is a way do do it all at once. Mark McCarron --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: From: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 8:30 AM On May 22, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Sibelius and Makemusic both understand that most of their user base are casual users. No shame in that. But it is true that Sibelius works better for the casual user - by design - than Finale does. And while there have been improvements in Finale's defaults, there is still much room for improvement and there is shame in that. Christopher Here I go talking to myself, arguing with myself to make it worse... Actually, one area I see with my students is that Sibelius' default size for chord symbols is TINY. That is a default file problem. However, when I ask them to increase it, no problem; it's a very easy fix in Sibelius. But try to do the same thing in Finale with one of the JazzCord libraries... whoa! There, I just argued with myself, gave point, counterpoint and rebuttal, and I think I won the argument! Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6
I am one of those few Finale users who always purchase the new upgrades and I'm never dissapointed. I'm not usually vocal about that. Mark McCarron --- On Wed, 5/20/09, dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: From: dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 6:39 AM Darcy James Argue wrote: The demo video is really impressive. There are always hiccups and stuff that doesn't work quite as well as it could, but this feature set sure looks like a worthy upgrade, with lots of notation-centric improvements. I hope it spurs Finale to match Sib's new features, especially the layout tools. As a Finale loyalist, It burns to see the principles behind Finale's vertical collision plug-in -- a great idea crippled by shoddy implementation -- featured so prominently in the new version of Sibelius. The auto-aligning dynamics and hairpins looks great, and is something Finale should have and could have implemented a long time ago. I think this also clearly shows the insanity of Finale's yearly update schedule. Sibelius looks now to be on a biennial update schedule and for the last three versions now, the improvements have been substantial, allowing them to charge more ($169.00 for an upgrade from Sib5) and, I suspect, sell a lot more upgrades. As a member of the Sibelius group at yahoogroups, I have to say that there I don't recall there being anybody who complains about the upgrade schedule. And while there are those who don't upgrade due to financial restrictions, I've never read that people aren't upgrading because they want to wait to see how the new features work and whether they really work at all, and never has anybody posted that they're skipping an upgrade because the improvements and additions in any single Sib upgrade aren't worth it. At least that I recall. One thing that Finale has done is to create a gun-shy user base, at least as indicated on this group. Many people don't jump on Finale upgrades the way they used to because of the horrible bugs which have been prevalent in the initial releases of the past several annual Finale upgrades. How many messages on this group have been of the I'll wait until they bring out the Fin200Xa patch which can't be helpful to the financial engine of the company. I wonder how many people hold off waiting for the first update patch to the upgrade (what a stupid thing that a company's user base has to wait for such a thing to feel comfortable with a new version) only to find that when the update patch is released the early-adopters aren't raving about how much got fixed. There must be many people who waited for the update patch and then waited an additional period for the b patch (not there always is one) or simply decide they were smart not to fall for that upgrade and simply wait for the next full version upgrade hoping the major bugs introduced in the current version manage to get fixed in the next full version upgrade? Sibelius' current biennial update schedule does several things, all of which seem to be positive: 1) people have longer to get comfortable with the additions and changes and can actually get a lot of work done before having to relearn stuff in the new version; 2) the cost of a biennial Sibelius upgrade is a little cheaper than what the early-adopters of the annual Finale upgrades have to pay for their concurrent 2-version upgrades matching the Sibelius single upgrade; 3) the Sibelius development team has much longer to squash any bugs and to ensure that everything is working as it should so that complaints are minimal with new releases, raising the confidence level for the end-users; 4) people can buy the Sibelius upgrade and hold off on installing it if they would rather finish current projects in the older version, knowing that even if they wait nine months to install it, they'll get well over a year's use out of the new version before upgrading again. With Finale, if a person does that, they only get 3 months of use out of a new version (hardly enough time to really learn all the new features and to feel comfortable with the annually-rearranged menu structure) so I recall reading some posts where people have held off installing the new version of Finale they paid for, only to complain that it's still shrink-wrapped when the next version comes out. The prevailing attitude towards the corporation on the Sibelius group is positive. Can the same be said about the prevailing attitude towards the corporation on this Finale list? We'll know in a couple of months whether Finale has finally solved the problems that arose in Fin2009 and managed any similar improvements to what Sibelius has to offer. I sure hope so because I want Finale to continue to survive and to keep its user base, if only to keep providing inspiration for Sibelius
Re: [Finale] can't change tempo
there may be a tempo marking that is trumping the playback control.. (Expression tool) Mark McCarron - Original Message From: Aidan Rowe roweai...@gmail.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:06:42 PM Subject: [Finale] can't change tempo I have finale 2005, and for some reason, just this file won't let me change the tempo of the playback. I've pressed stop, not pause, and typed in new tempo, and the playback is still at the old tempo. Any advice, those of you who are still using this ancient version. Aidan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] muting staves
thanks for the response I'm using rhythmic notation not slash notation. Notes need to be entered,just not heard. Mark McCarron --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: From: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca Subject: Re: [Finale] muting staves To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 12:21 PM On 7-Apr-09, at 7-Apr-09 11:06 AM, Mark McCarron wrote: fin 2009 G5 10.4.11 I have a sop sax part with rhythmic slashes. I would like to mute the notes that the slashes are attached to. I can reduce the velocity to zero but human play back will reset the velocities. I've tried an expression and midi tool to reduce the volume (cc 7) to zero but when I bring it up again it messes with the Garritan Jazz Sample. I get all breath noise. Any ideas The way slashes are done most easily in Finale is to enter rests (so they won't play back) and enter the staff style Slash Notation on the passage. Select the passage with the Staff Tool and hit S (metatool for slash notation) or control click or right click to select the staff style you want. Chord symbols attach to rests as they do to notes. Make sure you enter half rests or quarter rests, as whole rests will cause your chord symbols to be aligned with the centre of the measure instead of the beginning. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] muting staves
I like the first idea. I'll try it Thanks Mark McCarron --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: From: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca Subject: Re: [Finale] muting staves To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 9:22 AM If you enter the notes in another layer, like 4, and use rhythmic notation applied to layer 4 (you would have to duplicate, then edit an existing style), then you can mute the playback of layer 4 only on that staff in the Instrument List window. Click the triangle beside the instrument name to open up the options, and mute Layer 4. If you find that to be too much of a burden, then just mute Layer 1 for that staff, but switch all the normal notation to Layer 2 for that staff and leave the Layer 1 slashes where they are. Christopher On Apr 9, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Mark McCarron wrote: thanks for the response I'm using rhythmic notation not slash notation. Notes need to be entered,just not heard. Mark McCarron --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: From: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca Subject: Re: [Finale] muting staves To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 12:21 PM On 7-Apr-09, at 7-Apr-09 11:06 AM, Mark McCarron wrote: fin 2009 G5 10.4.11 I have a sop sax part with rhythmic slashes. I would like to mute the notes that the slashes are attached to. I can reduce the velocity to zero but human play back will reset the velocities. I've tried an expression and midi tool to reduce the volume (cc 7) to zero but when I bring it up again it messes with the Garritan Jazz Sample. I get all breath noise. Any ideas The way slashes are done most easily in Finale is to enter rests (so they won't play back) and enter the staff style Slash Notation on the passage. Select the passage with the Staff Tool and hit S (metatool for slash notation) or control click or right click to select the staff style you want. Chord symbols attach to rests as they do to notes. Make sure you enter half rests or quarter rests, as whole rests will cause your chord symbols to be aligned with the centre of the measure instead of the beginning. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] muting staves
fin 2009 G5 10.4.11 I have a sop sax part with rhythmic slashes. I would like to mute the notes that the slashes are attached to. I can reduce the velocity to zero but human play back will reset the velocities. I've tried an expression and midi tool to reduce the volume (cc 7) to zero but when I bring it up again it messes with the Garritan Jazz Sample. I get all breath noise. Any ideas Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] migrating mac computers
I'm replacing one of my computers. From a mac using tiger to a mac using leopard. Should I re-install Finale or will the migration process take care of the de-authorize re-authorize process? Mark McCarron --- On Sat, 3/28/09, dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: From: dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Subject: Re: [Finale] Time Compress note values To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 11:06 AM Jim Fischer wrote: Can I enter a difficult passage in half time - playing eighth notes and then use an edit command to shrink the performance in half - sixteenth notes appear? Yes -- depending on which version you're using the tool to do what you want is in different locations, but you want to look for Change Note Values. Or you can simply have the program interpret what you play as 16th notes and save yourself the bother. Simply set the tempo of the metronome for Hyperscribe to be half what you want and you should be all set. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How to select a TOOL with a keyboard shortcut ?
I use a G5 and a macbook. OS 10.4.11. Back when I used 2007 it worked fine on both. --- On Tue, 2/3/09, bbarros bernardobarr...@gmail.com wrote: From: bbarros bernardobarr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] How to select a TOOL with a keyboard shortcut ? To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 9:24 AM Hum... maybe something different with my Finale version, or with my computer? (Finale 2007, macos 10.5.4, macbook pro) 2009/2/3 bbarros bernardobarr...@gmail.com Nothing here... 2009/2/3 Mark McCarron mmcg...@yahoo.com it's control + option + f,g,h,j,k,l,;,' mark McCarron --- On Tue, 2/3/09, bbarros bernardobarr...@gmail.com wrote: From: bbarros bernardobarr...@gmail.com Subject: [Finale] How to select a TOOL with a keyboard shortcut ? To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:49 AM Hi list, How can I assign a shortcut for changing the TOOL? I followed the tutorial and I tried option + command + F/G/H/J/K/L/; and I got nothing. Any ideas? I'm on a mac (intel), Finale 2007. Best, Bernardo ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How to select a TOOL with a keyboard shortcut ?
it's control + option + f,g,h,j,k,l,;,' mark McCarron --- On Tue, 2/3/09, bbarros bernardobarr...@gmail.com wrote: From: bbarros bernardobarr...@gmail.com Subject: [Finale] How to select a TOOL with a keyboard shortcut ? To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:49 AM Hi list, How can I assign a shortcut for changing the TOOL? I followed the tutorial and I tried option + command + F/G/H/J/K/L/; and I got nothing. Any ideas? I'm on a mac (intel), Finale 2007. Best, Bernardo ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Playback controls repeat setting
when using the playback controls on Fin 2009 Mac OS 10.4.11 I get a message to enter a number between 1 and 1. I enter the number 1 and the next time I play the sequence it resets to 2 and then I once again get the message Please enter a number between 1 and 1 and on and on Can this be fixed? Mark McCarron --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Mark McCarron mmcg...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Mark McCarron mmcg...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT) To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 6:42 PM when using the playback controls on Fin 2009 Mac OS 10.4.11 I get a message to enter a number between 1 and 1. Can this be fixed? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] human playback for swing 16th's?
I'm transcribing a piece that has swing 16th's. Is there a way to make Finale playback the 16th's with a swing feel? Fin 2009 mac OS 10.4.11 Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)
when using the playback controls on Fin 2009 Mac OS 10.4.11 I get a message to enter a number between 1 and 1. Can this be fixed? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility?
I'm using whatever drivers came with the 2408mkIII. I use DP6. Is the compatability issue with leopard only or is tiger involved too? dual powermac G5 2.7ghz Mac OS 10.4.11 -Mark --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility? To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 6:55 PM On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I use a MOTU 2408mkIII with a 424pci card. I've never had compatability issues with any and all versions of Finale. Mac OS 10.4.11 Right, it's a mystery to me also. As I said, I wasn't able to pin it down. Just for chuckles, what are the specs of your computer? Are you using the MOTU audio driver? Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility?
yes, mine is the same 1.1.2. I've never installed Leopard. Mark McCarron --- On Wed, 12/17/08, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility? To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 3:20 PM Yes, FN08 was instaled under Tiger and also after an upgrade to Leopard. If you care to, Go to /System/Library/Extensions/ and highlight MOTUPCIAudio.kext the version on my PPC is 1.2.2. I'd be interested to see that yours is the same. Dick H On Dec 17, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Mark McCarron wrote: I'm using whatever drivers came with the 2408mkIII. I use DP6. Is the compatability issue with leopard only or is tiger involved too? dual powermac G5 2.7ghz Mac OS 10.4.11 -Mark --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility? To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 6:55 PM On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: I use a MOTU 2408mkIII with a 424pci card. I've never had compatability issues with any and all versions of Finale. Mac OS 10.4.11 Right, it's a mystery to me also. As I said, I wasn't able to pin it down. Just for chuckles, what are the specs of your computer? Are you using the MOTU audio driver? Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility?
I use a MOTU 2408mkIII with a 424pci card. I've never had compatability issues with any and all versions of Finale. Mac OS 10.4.11 --- On Sun, 12/14/08, Bonnie Janofsky brjanof...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Bonnie Janofsky brjanof...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility? To: Finale@shsu.edu Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 3:26 PM A friend of mine has conflicts with Finale 2008 and his 424 PCI card with his MOTU 2408, 3rd version if I recall correctly. Has anyone found this Finale 2008 incompatibility? And is it corrected in Finale 2009? How is it working out with the change in staff list names? I believe that with Finale 2009B you can make up to 8 staff lists but there are also another kind of expression list. I usually upgrade quickly but have waited due to this issue. Thanks! Bonnie Janofsky Bonnie Ruth Janofsky 818-784-4466 composer / songwriter www.BonnieRuthJanofsky.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TRANSPOSING chords in atonal key
selection tool make selectionutilities menuchangeChange Chord assignmentscheck transpose Mark McCarron --- On Wed, 10/22/08, Kim Richmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kim Richmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Finale] TRANSPOSING chords in atonal key To: FINALE FINALE LIST finale@shsu.edu Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 1:24 PM Has there ever been a solution or workaround for properly transposing chords (on a transposing part) in a piece with no key signature for all instruments? I'm talking about using linked parts. MacFin08 Thanks, KIM R ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Frontier Alphatrack with Finale?
Is there a way to use the Frontier Alphatrack with Finale? -Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?
my first suggestion is to turn down the reverb. I use the JABB library and it defaults to the reverb on 50% and the dry signal at 0% Mark McCarron --- Craig Parmerlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed F2009, moving from 2007. 2007 never had the jazz instruments, so I never used the Garritan sounds. One of the primary reasons I upgraded was to get the more realistic playback on big band charts. I have created a simple score from the Finale setup wizard, letting it set all the defaults for the Garritan jazz instruments. I must say my first impression is that this doesn't sound particularly realistic. To my ears, it sounds pretty much like the regular synth sounds, only with a lot more reverb. I am wondering: 1) Does anybody else share that opinion, or perhaps have a completely different opinion? 2) Are there some tweaks that people have found necessary in order to make the Garritan jazz instruments play back more realistically? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] No more speedy?
I use speedy. Simple confuses the hell out of me. Mark McCarron --- Carolyn Bremer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speedy has not been dropped. But, neither has it been updated. They are concentrating on Simple but Tom Carruth assured me that they will not drop Speedy until it has been folded into -- and functions the same -- in Simple. I think we're ok on this one. -Carolyn On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Aaron Sherber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:28 PM 7/14/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am dismayed to read that speedy entry has been dropped since this is the method I use for about 98% of the time. Speedy Entry has not been dropped in Finale 2009. This is incorrect information. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Staff spacing in FinMac 2003a
I remember a wiedrness in version 2003. In scroll view move the staves to the very top of the window and voila the page view is closer. Try it. Mark McCarron --- Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The TGTools menu is occasionally flaky. You may be able to access the staff list manager off the main plugin menu. Or try the Repeat Last TGTool command off the main plugin menu, after you select the Staff List Manager. Selecting the SLM should open a window that shows your staves. You can set the relative offsets in one system, then copy that optimization to the other systems where you want it. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:47 PM, mystrom1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I downloaded this and placed it in the plug-in folder, so now TG tools shows up as a pull down menu when I open up the file I'm working on. I see the Staff List Manager, click on it, and nothing happens. So how do I get this to work for me so that within a range of measures in a section of my score that I already have optimized, I can decrease the amount of space I have between staves? My apologies, I'm probably overlooking something that I'm not doing, but I'm stuck. Any help in how to get this to work for me will be greatly appreciated. Martin On 6/4/08, Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Staff List Manager does not come with Fin 2003a. But you can still download v2.29c from tgtools.com, and that version is compatible with FinMac 03. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:46 AM, mystrom1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using Finale (for Mac) 2003a...I do not find the staff manager plug-in in the list of TG tools that came with this version of Finale, so I can't use it. Any other suggestions? Martin On 6/4/08, dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mystrom1 écrit: How can I reduce the distance between staves in this one movement (maybe -310 or -300 evpus) so I can fit two systems on one page? I know this used to be possible in a much earlier version of Finale (although I don't recall how I was able to do it back then). The easiest way is to use TGTools staff manager plug-in. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] turn page arrow
sometimes I want a title page with a big arrow to turn the page. What font will give me the arrow? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] beaming composite time signatures
Mac 2008 tiger I'm writing a piece which uses groupings of 3+2+3 eight notes. I've created a composite time signature and got finale to display it as 4/4. However when I enter eighth notes using speedy entry there are no beams ,unless of course I use the forward slash. I've tried the rebeam command in the utilities menu but gotten nowhere. Is there a way to set it up so the beams are automatically entered? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] using FinaleScript to change paper size
my old Laserwriter II is still very usefull . However using the standard letter size in page setup means the .5 border around the page is unprintable. I defined a new page size to give me more print area and I would like to change my old finale documents to this new page size. I've been trying to do this using finalescript and so far have had no luck. so far this is what I have batch process folder paper size Mark's 8.5x11 all of the files in a folder I pick open , but the paper size hasn't changed. any ideas? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Invisible Score
have you tried selecting the measures and choosing fit music. To redistribute the bars at 4 or so to a system? Mark McCarron --- Barbara Touburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gerry, I've tried everything I could think of with the file you sent me yesterday (unlocking systems, redefining all pages, you name it), but I can only get the first system to appear. It seems that Finale thinks that all measures are in that first system, so no further systems are necessary, according to Finale. I think there's no other option than to copy the music in a new file. I tried that and it worked. Give it a try. Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] The Finale School
I love it mark McCarron --- Matthew Voogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, My name is Matthew Voogt. I am new to the list and would just like to say hello. I have a website called The Finale School (http://www.thefinaleschool.com ). It is a website that is totally free and offers video tutorials about anything and everything related to Finale. Check it out... let me know what you think. -Matt ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Invisible Score
I had something like this when I accidently hit delete while in the staff tool. Undo did the trick. Mark Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gerry Kirk wrote: But the music is invisible in Score viewall that shows is the title and arranged by. I have also had this problem (with Fin07). I have wracked my brain to try to remember what I did to fix it, but don't remember for sure. But it *may* be that your original score that you imported had Special Part Extraction checked. At any rate, it turned out to be something simple once I had figured it out. At any rate, I fussed with it and eventually recovered the score view. Please let us know what you have tried so far, because it may trigger me to remember what I did fix my similar problem. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Using the IAC Driver bus, for Playback from Finale2008a/Sibelius5 from a Sequencer (Digital Performer 5.12)
This is a very interesting idea. I'll try it. Mark McCarron Bob Morabito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/1/5/1681033/IAC.pdf Thanks to the kindness of gentleman named Kaumann, from the FInale Forums, I have put together the above document, for myself, and someone else, so that I could repeat the steps in the future. In it, I have included all that Kaumann was kind enough to provide, including a link to screen shots, and then my own really detailed fleshing out of his instructions. Finale only allows certain AU's for playback (Sib is MUCH better in this regard)--so I sought a way to use a single instrument setup in Dp (a V rack) as playback for both-- as I couldn't find this information anywhere, I thought Id post it here. I believe the instructions can be adapted for any sequencer. As this is all REALLY new to me, any kind corrections, suggestions are welcome. Again, a HUGE THANK YOU to Kaumann for his help and kindness in this. Peace, Bob Morabito ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Using the IAC Driver bus, for Playback from Finale2008a/Sibelius5 from a Sequencer (Digital Performer 5.12)
thanks Hiro Mark McCarron A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Morabito / 08.2.19 / 6:46 PM wrote: Finale only allows certain AU's for playback (Sib is MUCH better in this regard)--so I sought a way to use a single instrument setup in Dp (a V rack) as playback for both-- as I couldn't find this information anywhere, I thought Id post it here. If you are using DP's V-Rack, you don't need IAC bus. You should use DP's own Interapplication MIDI port, which Finale will see as the target in its MIDI setup. Just engage Interapplication MIDI under Setup menu in DP then launch Finale. Finle's MIDI setup will see DP. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym
let's not lose sight of the scale in this argument. If you are playing the 7b13 chord as the V7 of a minor chord you may chose to play the fifth mode of the harmonic minor in which case the Eb on a G7 chord is a flatted 6th one half step away from the fifth. If you choose to think of the scale as a whole tone scale then you would call it a #5. Mark McCarron Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I don't see it as a dumbing down, just a recognition of what the chord symbol vernacular actually is in jazz, not what someone thinks it ought to be. If you're on a session and the bass player is lost and you need to call out a chord so they can regain their bearings, what are you going to call -- C-flat-seven or B seven? Depends. If it really is a Cb7, then I'll call Cb7. Hey, they even used Cb7 in the original Real Book (see Daahoud, bar 6, for example), where they committed such lapses elsewhere as writing a II-V-I in C#minor as Ebm7(b5) - Ab7 - C#m7 instead of D#m7(b5) - G#7 - C#m7. I guess they thought that D# would give the player pause. Chord symbols are for reading, and the faster the better -- if you're writing an academic analysis, then I suppose Cb7 has its place. But on a lead sheet? I am against anything that might give the player pause, even for the tiniest fraction of a second. The only things that give us pause are those things that we haven't seen before. Giant Steps gave piano master Tommy Flanagan pause the first time he saw it sight reading on the session (poor guy!) but now everyone and his sister can play the heck out of it. If we write Cb, people will see it more and stop going Huh? on our sessions! And where do you draw the line? Would you use, for instance, Exdim7 - F#MA7? No, that one even technically would still be F#dim7 to F#maj7 (common tone diminished would use the same root spelling as the resolution) Or Ebb7-Dbmi6? Those progressions may be technically correct, but won't win you many friends amongst pianists and guitarists. I would draw the line at most double sharps or double flats (most, not all!) But we were talking about single flats and sharps, which I still think are perfectly usable. And b10 instead of #9? Really? I mean, sure, I see your logic, but it seems to me like you'd have better luck launching a crusade to restore whom to everyday English. But, you know, chacun à son goût and all that... I was talking about naming the extension correctly to match the function and spelling. You write Fnat on a D7(#9) chord, don't you? I think most do, by convention if not by thought, and calling the chord D7(b10) would match the chord spelling to the note spelling. I think most younger players use b13 now instead of #5 in their chord symbols, and despite THAT one going against the conventions of the previous fifty years or so, it caught on. One more thing; I'm not trying to restore anything (like whom), I'm trying to correct a fundamental misunderstanding dating back to the start of jazz. Great shows with Secret Society North, dude! I heard complete strangers raving about your band in the halls at IAJE. Christopher On 23 Jan 2008, at 9:13 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: I suppose men of good character can disagree, and I do. I have no hesitation at all using Cb as the root of the bVI chord in Eb minor, and I don't believe it causes any problems. As as for the sharps, what else is going to indicate a proper resolution from VIIdim7/III to IIIm7 in the key of Dmajor other than E#dim7 to F#m7? I mean, the dominant chord - C#7 - would be spelled with an E#, so it only makes sense that the VII chord would be E#. I think this is one of the dumbing-down aspects of jazz theory that we can dispense with now in our more-enlightened times. We spell b13 correctly now on dominant chords (instead of the #5 that was ubiquitous 25 years ago) and I am working on the #9 (should be b10) but I can't do it alone. Christopher On Jan 23, 2008, at 8:37 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Although, I would add, this is really not recommend. Rhythm section players *hate* to see Cb's, Fb's, E#'s and B#'s as the root of a chord in a chord symbol, even if they are technically correct. We are much more used to seeing the bIV chord in Eb min. spelled as B7. Seeing Cb7 is practically guaranteed to cause a momentary Wha... ? Oh... okay during sight-reading. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 23 Jan 2008, at 8:29 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Richard Huggins wrote: I did a transposition from E minor to Eb minor. Finale converted all the C chords to B. Is there a way to globally change them to Cb? In the Chord menu, turn off Simplify Spelling. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list
Re: [Finale] Upgrade Offer for 2008
Not Fair mark --- Aaron Sherber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:47 PM 1/12/2008, Eric Dannewitz wrote: I still haven't upgraded to Finale 2008, but today in the mail I got a little mailer from MakeMusic, and they are enticing the offer with the inclusion of a FREE Finale T-Shirt. Not fair! We *early* adopters used to get the t-shirt! I don't think I've gotten one in 3 or 4 years. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] cues in drum parts
thanks for the very useful post Mark McCarron --- Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Layer options -- Layer 4 -- stems ties up, rests up 6 steps, playback off. 2) Select the line you want to cue -- say, the lead trumpet line -- and move it to Layer 4. 3) Go Document - Show Active Layer Only and switch to Layer 4. 4) Copy the notes to the drum part. Use a filter to exclude whatever you want excluded from the drum part (e.g., slurs, hairpins, etc). 5) Select the passage that you have copied to the drum staff, and go Plugins - Note, Beam and Rest Editing - Single Pitch. Choose G5 as your pitch. 6) if the selected notes don't appear on the top staff space, you're probably using a percussion map. You will need to edit the perc. map so that the pitch G5 shows up on the top staff space. (Consult the documentation for details on this.) 7) Turn off Show Active Layer Only. 8) Create a new Staff Style called Slash Notation (Show Notes). Its settings should be identical to regular slash notation except you also want to turn on Show Notes in Other Layers. 9) Apply this new staff style to the drum part. You now have slashes with ens. kicks above the staff. 10) Move the notes of the lead trumpet line (or whatever your source staff was) back to Layer 1. 10) Write to MakeMusic and tell them that they need to make this process easier. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 17 Dec 2007, at 9:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone-in jazz band score, what is the best way to write cues above the top line of the drum set part so the drummer knows what the ensemble figures are? I'm using Finale 2007 and Windows XP Pro. Thanks in advance-Brian **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] usb number pad with clear key?
I just picked one of these up on eBay Thanks --- John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 13, 2007, at 2:19 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: There is this one: http://www.welovemacs.com/usb-kpad.html ... although it is listed as no longer available. I'm curious whether the numlock key on PC numeric keypads actually triggers a Clear when used with a Mac. (There is no numlock on Apple keyboards and Macs do not, to my knowledge, support the numlock function.) I know this has been corrected, but since people keep quoting it: There IS numlock on both full Apple keyboards and Apple laptop keyboards. Macs DO support the numlock function. End of discussion. John -- John R. Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] usb number pad with clear key?
are there usb number pads out there with a clear key? It seems they don't. Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2008 and Beyond
I thought Finale had given up on Finaleviewer in favor of Notepad. Mark McCarron --- Noel Stoutenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Wolf wrote: Trying to figure out the future of Finale -- and MakeMusic's plans for the product -- without any concrete internal information is more like reading tea leaves than serious analysis, but the tea leaves we've been left appear to me to be gathering in an inauspicious pattern. ...snippage... Today (the first of December 2007), I received another tea leaf: for the first time, a bit of advertisement for Finale 2008 from the Finale dealer here in Germany. Compared to my past experience with Finale, this is actually quite early for an advertisement of FIN 2008! My experience (as a U.S. domiciled user, who has dealt direct with Coda / Net4Music / MakeMusic! since 2k1, the first upgrade I purchased) is that the earliest advertisements for the product are generally released in May. While not widely publicized, and not noted by many on this list (except perhaps me), MakeMusic! / Finale have scored won some significant points over Sibelius in the past fifteen months or so. It was about a year that it was announced that where Hal Leonard's popular music site, SheetMusic Direct used S~'s Scorch, that the new companion sites, Choir Music Direct, Band Music Direct, and Orchestra Music Direct, were being launched with a re-vitalized Finale Viewer, instead of Scorch. This is significant, as while it used to be possible to do work in Finale and import it to S~, it was never possible to do it the other way, as S~'s data file formats were proprietary. This means that Hal Leonard is switching (at least for products available through the web sites) to Finale from Sibelius. This did not happen overnight, and I suspect that we now know where the money needed to develop linked parts came from. I haven't done exhaustive searches, and I don't know how many other sites out there are using FinaleViewer in preference to Sibelius. I would also note that current financial environment is giving some boost to Finale over Sibelius. Last time I checked on-line prices for Finale on European sites, it was selling for a lower price in Europe than Sibelius. Since then, the exchange rate has moved so that Finale has an even greater price advantage. One thing is telling for me: S~ found it expedient to offer to give a very large discount recently to a significant subset of people as competitive upgrades. It is interesting to me that I was not able (despite a casual search) to find any similar upgrade offer to Sibelius users from MakeMusic!. Might it be that S~ found the need, and MM did not? ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
