Re: [Finale] Unusual Tuplet

[Ryan Beard]

Use the actual correct rhythm with ties. No need for a tuplet.
Half tied to eighth note. Eighth note tied to half.


> On May 28, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Giovanni Andreani  
> wrote:
> 
> I can’t resolve Finale to correctly display a tuplet showing two dotted 
> halves in the time of five quarters.
> 
> Any workaround?
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [Finale] DC al Fine behavior

[Ryan Beard]

Is “include in measure numbering” checked or unchecked for the pick up measure 
in the Measure Attributes? If it’s unchecked, that’s probably causing the 
problem. I always include all measures in numbering, but I create different 
measure number regions so that the displayed numbers are correct.
Ryan

> On Mar 2, 2019, at 2:05 PM, Steve Gruver  wrote:
> 
> I am having a strange outcome when inserting a 'D.C. al Fine' into my score.
> 
> In my score there is a pickup measure at the very beginning that I would
> like the performer to repeat back to on the D.C.
> 
> When I set this up using the Repeat tool, what should I have entered in the
> Target "Measure #" box?  If I enter '1' then it repeats back to the first
> full measure and not the pickup note.
> 
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Re: [Finale] expressions

[Ryan Beard]

Select the period character. Change its font to the music font.

I personally like to use text periods rather than music symbol, because the dot 
can be somewhat faint.

Ryan

> On Dec 12, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Dalvin Boone  wrote:
> 
> Finale 26, Windows 7.
> 
> 
> 
> I have a score with a change from 4/2 to 3/2, and I want to enter half-note
> = dotted whole note.  I try to create  the marking in the expressions
> dialogue box, but the list of notes to enter does not include any note value
> beyond the whole note.  If I enter the whole note and type "period" for the
> dot, I get a period (instead of a dot).  How can I get a dotted whole note
> in the expression dialogue box?
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] Band/wind ensemble questions

[Ryan Beard]

Transposed.

But I know a few band composers who provide C scores, so it’s not unheard of. 
But, as long as it’s indicated on the first page of the score, you’re good.

Full Transposed Score
or
Full Concert Pitch Score

Ryan


> On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:02 AM, David Froom  wrote:
> 
> Again, many thanks to Ryan Beard and Christopher Smith for all of the advice.
> 
> Very last question:
> 
> C score or transposed score? Again, coming from the orchestra world, I 
> learned from conductors who say that they want to see in front of them what 
> the players see — so when they ask about, for example, the Eb clarinet’s C# 
> in measure 74, they are asking about the written note C# that they and the 
> player sees, instead of having to translate from seeing a C-score E-nat (or 
> saying “concert E-nat”). So, all of my instincts and working methods tell me 
> that I should write a transposed score. But what do band directors want to 
> see?
> 
> Does this answer depend on the band? This is for a professional group, with 
> no expectation that it ever would be done by high school or amateur or 
> non-conservatory college bands.
> 
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Re: [Finale] Band/wind ensemble questions

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 HAVE to carry the weight by himself. Trumpets 
>> play much more often in concert band than in orchestra, so they can use the 
>> endurance help of playing more softly. The clarinets are the workhorses in a 
>> concert band, so the numbers you say are by no means outrageous. It?s nice 
>> to allow them to balance the sax section, or the trumpet section, by 
>> themselves, the same way that strings are massed in an orchestra.
>> 
>> Massed flutes are quite common, too. I?m surprised that a band of that size 
>> doesn?t have at least six flutes. But they are very often the high octave of 
>> some other part, so the way you said is not entirely out of line. 
>> 
>> Band or ?wind ensemble? doesn?t change the score order, but with ?wind 
>> ensemble? it may be more common to have suggested weights of sections, as 
>> you mentioned. Bands generally mass a lot of parts. This goes back to Sousa, 
>> who more-or-less came up with the woodwind-heavy doubling we see commonly 
>> today. You can specify ?one only? whenever you want. But I suggest that loud 
>> passages use everyone available.
>> 
>> I don?t remove empty staves at all, unless it will save me score pages (say, 
>> for long passages where entire sections rest), so I agree with Gould. As a 
>> conductor, the placement on the page is an important indicator to me where I 
>> am pointing my cues, and my expectations. This isn?t Beethoven?s 5th, that 
>> everyone and his brother can conduct from memory, and is published in masses 
>> that need to save paper. Your piece is a new and presumably more complex 
>> piece that needs all the help you can muster, and not that much paper.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Christopher
>> 
>> 
>> Ryan Beard  wrote:
>> 
>> 1) It?s pretty much evenly split. I prefer Bassoons below clarinets, but 
>> others prefer them below oboes. If your bassoons only play with the oboes 
>> creating a double reed mini ensemble, then you might want bassoons below. If 
>> you bassoon parts are pretty independent from oboes, but mostly double the 
>> bass clarinet and bari sax, then you might want to put them below clarinets 
>> and above saxes.
>> 
>> 2) Trumpets above horns in band scores. (Though there certainly are 
>> exceptions in the standard literature). And cornets above trumpets (though 
>> again, there are exceptions).
>> 
>> 3) Yes, Double Bass below Tuba and above Timp/Percussion. 
>> 
>> You didn?t ask, but some people are sticklers to putting mallet percussion 
>> at the very bottom, below the drums and other non-pitched percussion. But, 
>> if you?re composing for a specific amount of players at their own ?station?, 
>> then mallets can go with whichever part it?s assigned to.
>> 
>> Wind Ensemble vs Band shouldn?t have much effect on the score order. If 
>> you?re writing one to a part, like an orchestra wind section, then you might 
>> want to stick with orchestra order, particularly if you think that 
>> orchestras would be interested in performing this more than a band.
>> 
>> I like doubled parts, especially in the clarinets and trumpets. The clarinet 
>> section can take on the role of the string section (particularly with your 
>> cadre of low clarinets available?but I would advise to cue any alto clarinet 
>> solos in another instrument as a back up, since most bands seem not to use 
>> that instrument). Having those parts doubled gives some extra meat to the 
>> sound. The doubled cornet parts areahold over from the early days of 
>> transcribing orchestra rep for winds. The cornets would play the violin 
>> melodies while the trumpets would just play the original orchestral trumpet 
>> part. Having the full section of clarinets and cornets can allow for divisi 
>> opportunities, which could come in handy.
>> 
>> Yes, it?s true that the majority of band scores don?t remove empty staves. 
>> It?s very much quicker to prepare a score without staves being removed.
>> 
>> Ryan
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2018, at 10:01 AM, David Froom  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I?m really hoping to enlist someone who regularly writes for band to give 
>>> me some advice.
>>> 
>>> I?m writing this for a top notch, professional group. Some questions:
>>> 
>>> For score order, there seem to be some variations from orchestral standard. 
>>> But different sources say different things. Here are my questions:
>>> 
>>> 1) Some say bassoons go between Ob/Eng Horn and Clarinets. Others say they 
>>> go below clari

Re: [Finale] Band/wind ensemble questions

[Ryan Beard]

1) It’s pretty much evenly split. I prefer Bassoons below clarinets, but others 
prefer them below oboes. If your bassoons only play with the oboes creating a 
double reed mini ensemble, then you might want bassoons below. If you bassoon 
parts are pretty independent from oboes, but mostly double the bass clarinet 
and bari sax, then you might want to put them below clarinets and above saxes.

2) Trumpets above horns in band scores. (Though there certainly are exceptions 
in the standard literature). And cornets above trumpets (though again, there 
are exceptions).

3) Yes, Double Bass below Tuba and above Timp/Percussion. 

You didn’t ask, but some people are sticklers to putting mallet percussion at 
the very bottom, below the drums and other non-pitched percussion. But, if 
you’re composing for a specific amount of players at their own “station”, then 
mallets can go with whichever part it’s assigned to.

Wind Ensemble vs Band shouldn’t have much effect on the score order. If you’re 
writing one to a part, like an orchestra wind section, then you might want to 
stick with orchestra order, particularly if you think that orchestras would be 
interested in performing this more than a band.

I like doubled parts, especially in the clarinets and trumpets. The clarinet 
section can take on the role of the string section (particularly with your 
cadre of low clarinets available—but I would advise to cue any alto clarinet 
solos in another instrument as a back up, since most bands seem not to use that 
instrument). Having those parts doubled gives some extra meat to the sound. The 
doubled cornet parts areahold over from the early days of transcribing 
orchestra rep for winds. The cornets would play the violin melodies while the 
trumpets would just play the original orchestral trumpet part. Having the full 
section of clarinets and cornets can allow for divisi opportunities, which 
could come in handy.

Yes, it’s true that the majority of band scores don’t remove empty staves. It’s 
very much quicker to prepare a score without staves being removed.

Ryan

> On Aug 6, 2018, at 10:01 AM, David Froom  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I’m really hoping to enlist someone who regularly writes for band to give me 
> some advice.
> 
> I’m writing this for a top notch, professional group. Some questions:
> 
> For score order, there seem to be some variations from orchestral standard. 
> But different sources say different things. Here are my questions:
> 
> 1) Some say bassoons go between Ob/Eng Horn and Clarinets. Others say they go 
> below clarinets. Which is more standard these days for professional bands?
> 
> 2) Some say the trumpets above the horns, others say this is changing these 
> days to standard orchestral (horns above trumpets because they often mingle 
> with the saxophones). Which is more standard these days for professional 
> bands?
> 
> 3) Double bass, I’m told, goes below the tuba, but above piano — then timp 
> plus percussion on the bottom. Is this standard these days for professional 
> bands? My orchestral instincts want it at the very bottom.
> 
> The group I’m writing for could be full band or wind ensemble (my choice), so 
> as many as Eb clarinet, 12 Bb clarinets (4 to each of three parts), 2-3 low 
> clarinets (bass, contra, alto), 6 cornets (2 to each of three parts) plus 2 
> trumpets — though any of the cornet players could play trumpet, picc trumpet, 
> or flugelhorn. Then 2 euphoniums, 3 tubas. 
> 
> I’m leaning towards asking for one to a part (clarinets as Eb, 2 Bb, alto cl, 
> bass cl); 3-6 trumpets, 1 euphonium, 1 tuba. Can anyone advise as to why I 
> should go with all the doubled parts? Thinking as someone coming from the 
> orchestra world, all those extra clarinets, trumpets, euphoniums/tubas seem 
> to be a strange and troublesome counterbalance to the rest of the group (pic, 
> 3 fl, 2 ob, eh, 2 bn, cbn, sax quartet, 4 horns, 3 trb, btrb).
> 
> And does band vs wind ensemble change any of the score order? 
> 
> Final question: According to Gould in "Behind Bars,” people do NOT remove 
> empty staves! She grants that timp/percussion can be removed from the page if 
> they aren’t playing, but everyone else stays, doesn’t have empty staves 
> removed from any of the pages. Is this really true!!!???
> 
> Thanks very much in advance!
> 
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Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan’s fonts

[Ryan Beard]

I use them, but I’m on a Mac. Most still work for me. You can try writing 
npcimaging.com  to see if they updated versions of the 
fonts.

Ryan


> On May 20, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Martin Nickless  > wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi does anybody use bill Duncan’s fonts
> Not sure if they really work with windows 
> And finale 25
> If any body knows how to use the chord font that would be most helpful
> Thanks greatly in advance 
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Re: [Finale] Aleatoric box notation

[Ryan Beard]

I just did a piece with that. I used the frames of a measure attached text box. 
Doubt it will work for the linked parts, but I just needed to do the score. 
It would be nice if there were rectangle smart shapes possible that attach to 
beats horizontally and remain at a fixed height. 

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> On Mar 30, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Jan Angermüller  wrote:
> 
> There was a plugin script for creating boxes with the JW Lua plugin 
> (written by Harald Schollmeyer) on one of the Finale forums.
> A link is available at https://elbsound.studio/jw-lua-scripts.php#boxes
> 
> Jan
> 
>> Am 30.03.2018 um 14:29 schrieb Greg Scheer:
>> I am tearing my hair out trying to create an aleatoric section in a new 
>> composition.
>> 
>> I followed the advice here: 
>> http://www.rpmseattle.com/of_note/creating-aleatoric-temporal-boxed-notation-in-finale-part-1/
>>  
>> .
>>  That got me started with creating boxes and arrows to show that a musical 
>> fragment repeats. However, both the boxes and arrows jump to different 
>> positions on the page or resize themselves randomly. I assume it has 
>> something to do with the page layout updating, but I simply cannot get them 
>> to stay put.
>> 
>> Does anyone have any advice? Best practices? Great plug-ins? A comforting 
>> pat on the head?…
>> 
>> =
>> Do not let the dark steal your song.—Wendell Kimbrough
>> -
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Re: [Finale] useful response from Finale support

[Ryan Beard]

You can also delete the preferences directly within Finale 25 in the 
preferences panel. 

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> On Sep 19, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> FYI
> 
> The preference file location remains the same for Finale 25, 
> (~/Library/Preferences/Finale 2014.5 Preferences), but the file name has 
> changed, so I didn’t recognize it.  It is now listed as: 
> com.makemusic.finale.fprf 
> 
> So now I can copy that file, and in the unfortunate event of a corrupted 
> preference file (not nearly as usual as it used to be), I can keep a copy or 
> two of that file with which to replace the corrupted one.
> 
> Hope this is helpful,
> 
> Chuck
> 
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Re: [Finale] Mac OS

[Ryan Beard]

Doubtful. AFAIK, MakeMusic doesn't even offer support of 2k11 anymore. 

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> On Jun 10, 2017, at 3:42 AM, Lawrence David Eden  wrote:
> 
> Dear Listers,
> 
> Can anyone tell me if Finale 2K11 is compatible with the Sierra operating 
> system?  (I am currently running El Capitan with a small playback 
> restriction.)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: [Finale] pdf to musx and/or scanning

[Ryan Beard]

You can use an older version of the software with the scan recgnition
capabilities still enabled. However, I never got it to work reliably and
often it was faster to just enter it from scratch.

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Ryan  wrote:

> You can use an older version of the software with the scan recgnition
> capabilities still enabled. However, I never got it to work reliably and
> often it was faster to just enter it from scratch.
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Elizabeth R. Austin 
> wrote:
>
>> Does Import involve any way to convert a pdf Finale score to musx?
>>
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Re: [Finale] How to eliminate parens in continuation of 8va

[Ryan Beard]

Smart Shape dialogue. Select the 8va line and edit it. 
In Left Continuation, edit that text to remove the parentheses. This will 
change all instances in the current document. 

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> On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> 
> JD is right, of course.  This requires replacing all the existing shapes - 
> perhaps not practical and certainly not pleasant.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dennis,
>> 
>> I have a custom 8va Smart Shape (one of Bill Duncan’s) that allows me to 
>> edit out the parentheses.  If you can tell me how to send this custom shape, 
>> I can edit it to your needs (and create an 8vb one).  Hope this swill help.
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> A client has decided he wants all the parentheses removed from 8va and 8vb
>>> continuations (where the shape goes onto the next page). It happens a lot. I
>>> don't seem to find either a smart shape option or other native way or plugin
>>> to do this without re-entering each 8va and 8vb separately on each page.
>>> 
>>> Anybody?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dennis
>>> 
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Re: [Finale] Applying EQ

[Ryan Beard]

Can you just create another set of piano staves? Piano 1 has EQ1, Piano 2 has 
EQ2, etc.

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> On Jan 1, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Christopher Smith 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is a possibility.
> 
> Apply the Human Playback plugin, which means that playback is frozen, instead 
> of changing slightly as it is recalculated every time you hit Play. You need 
> consistent tempo for this to work, and Human Playback needs to be frozen for 
> that.
> 
> Mute the piano part and created an audio file from the rest of the 
> arrangement.
> 
> Import the piano staff WITH the Human Playback MIDI adjustments into a DAW. 
> Or you could export the audio from a second pass in Finale with everything 
> muted except piano. Up to you.
> 
> Combine the two audio tracks in a DAW, EQing the piano as you like.
> 
> Ta-dah!
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2017, at 7:57 PM, Dean Rosenthal  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi …
>> 
>> Working for a composer who wants to apply different EQs to different parts
>> of the same instrument during playback. Selectively using Apply Human
>> Playback is of no help because it can't change waveforms. In this case, the
>> piano sound is acceptable and desired in part of the piece, but in another
>> part, is not ready. The other option I tried was isolating the area in a
>> DAW, but by then you have imported the entire orchestration and not just
>> the single track/instrument that needs EQ. I'm not sure there is a solution
>> to this one...
>> 
>> Best,
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Re: [Finale] Looking for s way to return all chord symbols names to same heights.

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I think TGTools has a Reset Baselines tool. 

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> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:34 PM, Jim Fischer  wrote:
> 
> I pull a medley together every holiday season for a show - Importing 
> different song arrangements from different songs. For some reason the chord 
> names are different heights. Is there a command return all of the chord names 
> to the same height? These charts go back to finale 2002
> I am using finale 25 now. 
> 
> Thx. Jim
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Re: [Finale] Whole Notehead Character not Displaying Correctly

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Is it a percussion staff set to use a different note head font?

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> On Nov 11, 2016, at 2:48 AM, Giovanni Andreani  
> wrote:
> 
> I've just received a document set to display the whole notehead character as 
> the same one used for the half notehead., which I would like to change to the 
> normally used one.
> I went to Document Options --> Notes & Rests and indeed found out that the 
> whole note is there set to display as normally (symbol selection box no. 119 
> with font Maestro). I also noted that 'Use Note Shapes' is unchecked but I 
> don't want to fiddle with it before I'm sure to not affect the entire 
> document; all other notehead values will display correctly. Last thing: notes 
> are set to playback with a percussion map, maybe there's something there 
> affecting the graphic output?
> 
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Re: [Finale] Printing 8.5"x11" PDF 2-up to 12"x18" paper

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Can you print to PDF each page first to 9"x12", then impose those two 9x12 
pages on 12"x18"?

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> On Oct 10, 2016, at 7:27 PM, Darcy James Argue  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> Does anyone have a good solution for printing 8.5”x11” PDFs 2-up onto 12”x18” 
> paper that both enlarges the image the correct amount and preserves 
> equidistant margins?  
> 
> The app Bookbinder’s Collator does this perfectly when making booklets, but 
> it is not able to do regular 2-up. And neither Preview nor Adobe Reader seem 
> to offer sufficient control over the enlargement or the inner margins.  
> 
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Re: [Finale] Apparent printing bug in new Finale

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In the meantime, can you print to PDF and disregard the page size error? The 
part should print to PDF correctly and then you can send that to the printer. 

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> On Aug 21, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> 
> I open a score with 10 parts, choose "None” in the print dialog, then select 
> the individual part I want to print (after making sure the correct selections 
> are made in both the page setup and print dialog boxes), then the print 
> dialog automatically and incorrectly selects the score as well as the part 
> and shows the error dialog window that says I have wrong parer sizes (the 
> score paper is different from the part paper).  No system of 
> selecting/deselecting cures this, the score always gets a check mark as soon 
> as I hit “print.”  I have not tried ignoring the warning and printing anyway 
> - don’t want to waste a bunch of paper on a incorrectly printed score I don’t 
> need anyway.  Can anyone confirm this behavior?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 25

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They said in the announcement that there's a 30 day free trial available. 

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> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:05 PM, "j...@thomastudios.com"  
> wrote:
> 
> To be honest, for me, new features are at the bottom of my wishlist.  I need 
> Finale to run FASTER, especially with larger files, and more of the existing 
> bugs quashed.  Anyone know if a demo version is available to try?
> 
> Robert, I found your discussion about internals within Finale most 
> compelling.  Please feel free to enlighten us more with those techoid details.
> 
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> 
>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, August 16, 2016 2:57 pm, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote:
>>> Well.   Isn’t THIS not exciting...
>> 
>>> http://www.finalemusic.com/products/finale/whats-new/?utm_source=responsys_medium=email_campaign=25release_content=upgrade
>> 
>> 
>> I had the same reaction -- especially to the upgrade price, with no 
>> early-bird
>> discounts.
>> 
>> No news on plugins either, and I don't see any info on Speedy entry (the only
>> method I use).
>> 
>> I think I'll be skipping this version ... at least until reports are in from
>> victi... users. :)
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Word extensions

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Are there notes in that next bar in the same layer as the lyric in question? If 
so, then that's expected behavior. 

You can break word extensions at the bar line in Measure Attributes. But it 
will affect every staff with lyrics. 

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> 
> I have to vocal voices on one staff in two layers, each with indepentent 
> lyrics. Finale draws the word extension for layer 1, the syllables of 
> which I have dragged up, correcty above the staff, but continues them on 
> the next system as if the lyrics were under the notes. How do I resolve 
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Re: [Finale] Printing two letter size PDFs to ledger size paper- possible?

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You can do it directly from Finale by choosing 11x17 as the page size and 2-up 
printing, ignore printer margins. 

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> On Jun 5, 2016, at 6:52 PM, Robert Patterson  
> wrote:
> 
> If you mean booklet printing, I use Cheap Imposter on Mac. Adobe Reader can
> also do it.
> 
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Raymond Horton 
> wrote:
> 
>> I've tried to do this in several different software apps , unsuccessfully.
>> Any suggestions? Thanks
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Score Manager Controls Grayed Out

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There should be a triangle off to the side. Click that, and it should show you 
both individual staves of the grand staff. You can make edits there. 

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> wrote:
> 
> I have a file that the Score Manager controls for Notation Style,
> Transposition, etc. are grayed out on both instruments. (They are both
> grand staves.) This happens in Fin12-Fin14.5. Does anyone know what's going
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2014d Measure Numbers

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And be sure to set the last measure of each region to break multi measure 
rests. Could be very confusing if a player saw a 2-measure rest comprised of 
measures 118-121. 

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> 
>> On 2/11/2016 5:31 PM, Sears, Joel wrote:
>> Back in the day, many of the west cost composers would scratch out
>> measures they were not happy with, and continue on, leaving those
>> measure numbers out. They would, then, give the scores to the studio
>> copyists. The copyists, working very fast, would just leave the
>> numbers out and continue on, with what they saw. I am creating a
>> score from these beautifully hand copied parts and what the score to
>> reflect the numbers as they are on them.
>> 
>> I'm using Finale 2014d on a PC. My jazz band score starts with a
>> quarter note rest pick up. The bar numbers should be from 1 to 317,
>> not counting the pick up bar. Finale counts the quarter note rest as
>> a bar but does not number it. The numbers start with the first full
>> bar, as number 2. I can change it in the Measure Number dialog box,
>> to start with the first full measure as number 1, but it ignores it
>> and starts with number 2. My friend tried it with his Mac  Finale
>> 2014.5 and has the same problem.
>> 
>> The hand written parts start on the first full bar and are numbered
>> from 1 to 118, 121 to 317 omitting bars 119 & 120  When numbers are
>> added to the score in Finale they run consecutively from 1 to 317.
>> How do I delete bar numbers 119 & 120 and start with 121 after bar
>> 118 so the Finale score will match the handwritten parts? If it can
>> be done my score bar numbers will go 1-118, 121 -317. Any help out
>> there on this matter?
> 
> Edit the Measure Number Regions.
> Edit the first region to be measures 2 through 118, start the numbering 
> at 1.
> Create the second region to be measures 121 through 317, start the 
> numbering at 121.
> 
> That should leave the pickup plus measures 119 and 120 outside any 
> measure number regions and thus shouldn't show any numbers.
> 
> I've always found that pickup measures work best for me if I create them 
> by hand rather than using Finale's built-in pickup measure creation, but 
> that's perhaps a discussion for a different thread.
> 
> I hope this helps!
> 
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Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

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Yes I know I can do that. But I have linked parts and adding an invisible first 
measure creates too many other problems to overcome. 

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> On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
> 
>> On 7-10-2015 21:48, Ryan wrote:
>> The text will appear on a cover page. Custom Smart Shapes are required to
>> be attached to a staff. There is no music on the page, so there is nothing
>> to attach the shape.
> 
> Not necessarily so.
> Insert a measure before the first measure. Insert the title page before 
> the first page. Move the inserted first measure to the title page 
> (insert a system break and a page break).
> Change the first inserted measure to invisible using a staff style 
> (check: force hide staff: cutaway).
> Attach your smart shape. It will show. I've just checked it and it works.
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[Finale] Slightly OT: "to go on" endings

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I'm arranging a tune that will have several stopping points. It's ceremonial 
music that can be used as underscoring for processions, etc. 

I think the best way to indicate this in the music is to relabel 1st and 2nd 
endings as "fine" and "to go on…". But, which should come first?

Are there any suggestions on a different approach?

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Re: [Finale] Epson large format printer

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Dennis, does your Epson have a duplexer that prints the large sizes?

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> On Sep 5, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz  
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, September 5, 2015 9:25 pm, David H. Bailey wrote:
>> A couple of months ago someone had mentioned an Epson large format
>> inkjet printer which worked well with Finale.
> 
> It probably was not me, but I use an Epson 1400 13x19 printer. It works very
> well with Finale.
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Re: [Finale] 12x18 booklet printing workflow

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 On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:05 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 So after a year and a half of owning a Ricoh AP6330N, I have — somewhat 
 sheepishly — just today discovered it can actually handle 12x18 paper. (I 
 had until now just assumed that it had the same size limitations as its 
 predecessor, the Ricoh AP2610, which maxed out at 11x17. In retrospect this 
 was really, really dumb.)
 
 Obviously that is a bit of a game changer for me! I have previously been 
 printing on individual 9x12 sheets and taping them using the VPC machine. 
 This is no longer necessary (or remotely desirable) now that I know I can 
 print directly to 12x18.
 
 I'm curious what people's workflow is to create booklet parts on a Mac — 
 presumably it's best print to PDF first, then use booklet software to 
 assemble the 12x18 signatures? Are there apps that people would recommend for 
 this purpose? I have Bookbinder's Collator, but it's not the most intelligent 
 piece of software I've ever used.
 
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Re: [Finale] 12x18 booklet printing workflow

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Depending on the size of the project, I might print to a booklet directly from 
Finale. (A 4 or 8 pager...)
Otherwise I print to PDF, then use PDFClerkPro to do the impositions. You might 
check to see if Preview can do impositions. It's received a few updates in the 
last couple OSes, IIRC. 

My HP Laserjet 5200dtn is still going strong after ten years. Good to know that 
the Ricoh is available in case I need it. It's rare that the duplexer unit will 
handle a large size like 12x18. 

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 Hi all,
 
 So after a year and a half of owning a Ricoh AP6330N, I have — somewhat 
 sheepishly — just today discovered it can actually handle 12x18 paper. (I 
 had until now just assumed that it had the same size limitations as its 
 predecessor, the Ricoh AP2610, which maxed out at 11x17. In retrospect this 
 was really, really dumb.)
 
 Obviously that is a bit of a game changer for me! I have previously been 
 printing on individual 9x12 sheets and taping them using the VPC machine. 
 This is no longer necessary (or remotely desirable) now that I know I can 
 print directly to 12x18.
 
 I'm curious what people's workflow is to create booklet parts on a Mac — 
 presumably it's best print to PDF first, then use booklet software to 
 assemble the 12x18 signatures? Are there apps that people would recommend for 
 this purpose? I have Bookbinder's Collator, but it's not the most intelligent 
 piece of software I've ever used.
 
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Re: [Finale] Bach Chaconne in Finale

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Replied off list. 

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 I find I have to enter the Bach Chaconne into Finale. It don't suppose any
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Re: [Finale] improving speed in F2014 (mac)?

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Work in scroll view as much as you can. In page view, Finale 2014 redraws every 
page starting with page one. If you're working on page 30, you have to wait for 
pages 1–29 to redraw first. 
 Speed improvements were mentioned for Finale 2014.5, so I hope they've 
addressed this issue. 

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 shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:
 
 
 is there anything that can be done to make F2014 faster (on yosemite)?  i 
 have a
 big file that i find too slow, have tested it on a newer machine and of course
 it is faster, so some of the problem is of course my HD.  but are there any
 other things to be done to improve it?  i never use playback on these things.
 so far i have done these:
 
 - set human playback to none
 - set audio/MIDI it to play through MIDI (not audio units)
 - MIDI thru is off
 - turned off allow temporary score adjustments in human playback prefs
 - turned off auto layout update
 - turned off auto music spacing
 - unchecked playback in the speedy menu
 
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Re: [Finale] improving speed in F2014 (mac)?

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From what I understand, from tech support, it doesn't matter if you're only 
viewing current page only.

But I understand your concerns. Slowness in page view while cleaning up the 
score is the main reason I went back to 2012. 

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 shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:
 
 
 hey ryan. yeah it is much faster in scroll view but i am cleaning up a 
 completed
 score, so sometimes need page view.  i have it set to display current page 
 only
 so i shouldn't have that particular problem.  thanks, and let me know if you
 think of anything else :-)
 
 Work in scroll view as much as you can. In page view, Finale 2014 redraws
 every page starting with page one. If you're working on page 30, you have to
 wait for pages 1–29 to redraw first.
 Speed improvements were mentioned for Finale 2014.5, so I hope they've
 addressed this issue.
 
 ok, is there a release planned soon-ish?  i was involved in finishing a big
 piece until quite recently and am only catching up and migrating to F2014 now.
 
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Re: [Finale] saxes in flats, concert pitch in sharps

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Thanks. So since this occurs at a key change in the middle of the sone, I'll 
have to creat a staff style, yes?

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 staff transposition needs to be set to other:
 interval 6 (instead of 5)
 key alter -9 (instead of 3)
 
 Key of concert A major.
 I want the Eb saxes to appear in Gb, rather than F# major.
 
 In the score manager, I select the staff, click the transposition drop down
 menu, select other, uncheck simplify key, and nothing changes.
 
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Re: [Finale] Percussion playback volume

[Ryan Beard]

EzDrummer seems like a stand alone product. Can its sound be used as playback 
from Finale?

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 It's probably a Finale/Garritan issue. I've experienced strange volume 
 differences several times on the Garritan drum sets. Then I switched to 
 EzDrummer and everything works fine now.
 
 Jan
 
 Am 21.05.2015 um 20:39 schrieb Ryan:
 Can't figure what I'm doing wrong.
 
 FinMac 2012c.
 Garritan Instruments for Finale. Fusion Drum Kit.
 
 Some percussion instruments play back louder than others. At this point, I
 have not added any dynamics or other expressions that would affect
 velocity. (Just tempo expressions).
 
 The Hi-Hat Foot volume doesn't match the Kick Drum volume. Likewise for the
 different kind of cymbals, and even snare.
 
 I'm not using Human Playback initiated from the Playback Controls in this
 case. I'm Space Bar-clicking to play back after I enter a section of music.
 
 I've gone into the Mixer and raised the volume slider all the way up in the
 hope that I could at least hear the drums over the other instruments, but
 to no avail. The percussion instruments are hard to hear even when the
 staff is soloed in the Score Manager.
 
 Is this a Garritan issue? SoftSynth doesn't seem to have this problem, but
 I don't like [some] of the sounds as much.
 
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Re: [Finale] Swing only affects a few staves

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There are no other expressions in the document yet. No dynamics, expressive 
marks, etc. 

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 On 5/9/2015 2:49 PM, Ryan wrote:
 I've defined a tempo with swing playback, but only a few staves (piano and
 vocals) plays swing. The other instrumental staves (big band) play straight
 8ths.
 
 Finale 2012c. Mac
 Garritan Instruments for Finale,
 
 The expression has a playback definition of Swing value 100.
 I've added a hidden expression to take care of the tempo change in the same
 spot. I've removed that but the result hasn't changed.
 
 I've tried changing the instruments on the other staves in the Score
 Manager, but any instrument I choose plays straight eighths. I've also
 switched to General MIDI instead of Garritan Instruments.
 
 On the staves that do swing, a change of instrument still swings.
 
 How do I get all staves to swing?
 
 
 On the staves which don't swing, have you any other expressions which 
 you might have made as copies/edits to existing expressions?
 
 I ask because over the years of using Finale I've found that a lot of 
 playback problems in my scores have resulted from my doing such things 
 -- it's often easier to make a copy of a current expression and then 
 simply edit the text and forget to check whether the original had any 
 playback definition.
 
 
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[Finale] OT Persichetti's 'The Pleiades'

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Anyone have a recording of Vincent Persichetti's 'The Pleiades' they can 
recommend? Not finding much of a choice online. 

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Re: [Finale] Does anybody think MM will ever fix the F2014 HP problems?

[Ryan Beard]

I believe there will be an update to 2014. 

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 There are all sorts of problems introduced in F2014 in the area of HP:
 
 - fp no longer works correctly
 
 - Scoops and falls almost never work right now
 
 - Often note-off comes AFTER note-on of the following note, causing the 
 second note to be chopped short or not sound at all.
 
 None of these things happened to me at 2012.  Many people have had these 
 problems, but the company seems to have no interest in correcting any 
 bugs (or no ability to do so), even these high-impact, pervasive things.
 
 Anybody placing any odds on whether we will ever see any fixes at the 
 2014 level?
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Re: [Finale] Key sig for melodic minor

[Ryan Beard]

Just to clarify, for A melodic minor, you just want an F# and G# in the key 
signature?

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 On Mar 16, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Girard Bowe girard.b...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 Ascending, of course. I've tried to create this, but without success. If
 anybody has any easy way to do this, or at least a clear explanation, I'd be
 grateful.
 
 
 
 Also, assuming this is possible, will it transpose as expected? That is, if
 I have a D melodic minor, will it transpose up a major second as E melodic
 minor?
 
 
 
 And lastly, will it transpose diatonically according to the key signature?
 I'd like to be able to select a section, press 6, and have everything be one
 step lower in the same key.
 
 
 
 Thanks again for any help! I'm trying to create melodic minor exercises for
 myself, and would be glad to share these.
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] [OT] jazz harmonies to low-budget space rental ad

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This is wonderful. 

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 this is fantastic, i'm sure some here will enjoy it :-)
 http://twentytwowords.com/jazz-guitarist-turns-the-dudes-voice-from-a-low-budget-ad-into-a-hilariously-amazing-song
 
 jazz... keepin' it real.
 
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Re: [Finale] Some odd behavior

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Can you adding the fall first. The shorten the length. Then apply the slash 
staff style?

I get around this by assigning the fall as an articulation or expression. I can 
look up the font I use when I get to my Finale computer tonight. 

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 On Feb 12, 2015, at 5:38 PM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote:
 
 in FinWIn2010.
 
 Doing a big band chart, open solo section with soli fills.  Fills apply 
 to instruments also having solo changes, so for instance, I have a bar 
 with a half note, followed by two slashes.  The half note has a fall, 
 and a 'gliss' down is the composer's preferred mark.  But it refuses to 
 be applied in measures with slashes - the half note with a fall and two 
 slashes just has the half note and slashes, because, apparently it 
 doesn't want to apply them when there's nothing to fall *to*, even 
 though in the other (non solo) measures with a half note and a half 
 rest, it stays.
 
 Any idea on what setting will allow this?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [Finale] export audio as .mp3

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It's determined by your playback sounds. If you use Garritan, only WAV. If you 
use general MIDI, then you can choose mp3. 
Import the WAV file into iTunes and concert to mp3 on that program (or use a 
different audio application).

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 I can't consistently get an option to export an .mp3 audio file.
 Often it only offers WAV or iTunes.
 Any ideas?
 
 thx, Jim
 
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Re: [Finale] guides

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I was able to apply a guide after I changed the view percentage. 

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 Yes, I have experienced this, too. I wasn't sure if it was a bug or they 
 changed their modality. 
 
 Dean
 
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 On Nov 13, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Finale 2014c, Mac OS.
 
 I can't apply a vertical guideline. Nothing happens when I click in the
 ruler area across the top. But, I can apply horizontal guides by clicking
 in the ruler along the left.
 
 Has anyone else experienced this? Is there another way to apply a guide?
 
 Thanks
 
 Ryan
 
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Re: [Finale] OS X Yosemite

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Check the Finale blog. They had a brief article yesterday. 

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 I need information on the compatibility of OS X Yosemite with Finale 2014
 
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Re: [Finale] Two parts on one stave

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I call it a shared staff. 

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 I would call it shared part
 Harold
 
 
 On 11/10/2014, at 14:06, dc wrote:
 
 What do you call a part that has two instruments on the same stave, each 
 with their own stems?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dennis
 
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Re: [Finale] total number of frames

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Didn't realize that Layers count as a frame, too. Good to know. Thanks. 

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 wrote:
 
 
 from what i understand (F2012) it is each measure in all staves 
 contained in the document.  the timpani m1 in the SC is the same -- 
 as far as the structure goes -- as m1 in the timpani PT.  if you need 
 a 2nd staff for fl 2 PT then obviously taht will count extra from the 
 combined fl1-2 staff in the SC.  also keep in mind that each layer is 
 one frame.  ditto if you need another staff for fl1 and can't just 
 hide things or whatever in the fl1-2 staff for fl1 PT.
 
 Do you know if linked parts affect this number, or if it's only the 
 frames in the score that matter?
 
 For example, Flutes 1 and 2 sharing a staff would each have their 
 own linked part, and I assume it would affect the size of the file.
 
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Re: [Finale] Archive Project

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 wrote:
 
 I'd just drop them on LisaNet PDFWriter about 100 at a time. Seems to be
 much faster than using FinaleScript.
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfwriterformac/
 
 I'm sure there are numerous ways of doing it.
 
 Archives tend to become unusable with OS changes etc, might be worth
 creating a musicXML file to save alongside everything else, but that's not
 my speciality - just trying to think how you might best future proof
 everything.
 
 
 
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 I would like to archive about 82 meg worth of Finale files (2012 and
 earlier).  The kindest thing to do would be to create a PDF in addition to
 saving the .mus file, but there are about 1,200 files.   I can’t see how
 the process of creating a PDF could be automated, but perhaps some of you
 have ideas?I suppose I could at least include a copy of Mac and Win
 PrintMusic, but then we’re talking a bit of cost ($120 or so).
 
 Mac FIN 2014/2012
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Re: [Finale] Archive Project

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Make sure Finale is already open on your system. Then, open System Preferences 
 Printers  Scanners. Select your printer. Click Open Print Queue. 

Drag the .mus files you want to create PDFs into the queue window. 

The printer dialogue will pop up. Choose make PDF. Define where you want the 
PDFs to be saved. Click ok. It should open up all the .mus files and print them 
as PDFs automatically. 

I find that this only works with Finale 2012, not 2014. I'm on OS X 10.9.4. 

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 I'd just drop them on LisaNet PDFWriter about 100 at a time. Seems to be
 much faster than using FinaleScript.
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfwriterformac/
 
 I'm sure there are numerous ways of doing it.
 
 Archives tend to become unusable with OS changes etc, might be worth
 creating a musicXML file to save alongside everything else, but that's not
 my speciality - just trying to think how you might best future proof
 everything.
 
 
 
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 I would like to archive about 82 meg worth of Finale files (2012 and
 earlier).  The kindest thing to do would be to create a PDF in addition to
 saving the .mus file, but there are about 1,200 files.   I can’t see how
 the process of creating a PDF could be automated, but perhaps some of you
 have ideas?I suppose I could at least include a copy of Mac and Win
 PrintMusic, but then we’re talking a bit of cost ($120 or so).
 
 Mac FIN 2014/2012
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Re: [Finale] Mac setting .mus to open with Fin12

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I think it's an OS issue rather than Finale. You'd have to uninstall 2014, I'm 
afraid. 

But you only have to control-click on the first file to open 2012. As long as 
2014's not running at the same time, you can double click on any other file you 
want and it will open in 2012. 

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 wrote:
 
 Forget it.  I've tried this too many times to remember I'm afraid.  Something 
 about Finale steadfastly refuses to honor that request at any level.  Abobe 
 Acrobat Pro does the same thing on my Mac, altho more surreptitiously.
 
 My only way around is the cntl-click on a file.  Major PITA.
 
 Sorry.  Maybe someone else can chime in and we can learn something we didn't 
 know.  But I'm not holding my breath.
 
 J D Thomas
 ThomaStudios
 
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 wrote:
 
 I would like to force all .mus files to open with Fin12 as default (leaving
 .musx to open in Fin14). The Finder Get Info window seems to want to offer
 this feature, and it works on a case-by-case basis when I choose Open
 with-Finale 2012.app. But when I then select Change All... it perversely
 resets the open-with app back to Fin14. Does anyone know a way to override
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Re: [Finale] Creating a Beam off a Single Flagged Note

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I'm away from the computer now, but I recall I've done this in the following 
manner:
Enter 1st 32nd note. Enter 6 32nd rests, hide them, enter a final 32nd note 
higher than the first-something that'll give you your desired beam angle. 
Make sure extend secondary beams over rests is selected in Doc OptionsBeams. 
Use special tools to hide the last note and its stem. The beams may break, but 
you should be able to use the be extension tool to get the style you're after. 

Ryan


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 I'm using Finale 2009 on a Mac Pro desktop machine. Trying to figure out how 
 to create a beam off a single 32nd-note to indicate the first note of an 
 upward gliss as shown in the handwritten score here:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/88475764/Excerpt.jpg
 
 I've perused all the help docs I can find on beaming, but I can't seem to 
 figure it out. If it was the second or third note in a series of 32nds, it 
 would be simple enough to just use the beam extension tool, but when all you 
 have is one note, with flags, that tool doesn't work. Any help would be 
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Re: [Finale] How do I get playback to skip some measures???

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Have you tried using the repeat tool and defining some kind of to Coda jump?

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 How do I get playback to skip some measures???
 
 WinFin 2014, or 2012, either or both:
 
 I want to put some cuts in for playback but leave those measures in the
 score.  I've tried the repeat tool, which, I thought, ws the way that I had
 done this in the past.  No options for jumping in expressions.
 
 What am I missing???
 
 
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[Finale] Need to show resting section staff in solo passage?

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In a work for string orchestra, I have a passage with 4 solo first violins, and 
the rest of the section in resting. 

I have included 4 staves in the score for the first violins and will hide the 
empty staves when I lay out the rest of the score. These four staves will be 
included in the Violin I part. 

Do I need to have a fifth staff with rests to show that the rest of the section 
is not playing this passage? Or are the current four sufficient with the staves 
labelled as solo for this passage?

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Re: [Finale] Extend Beams over rests

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I did that doesn't work. 

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 wrote:
 
 Try 'Beams according to Time Signature'
 
 Greetings
 Raimund
 
 Am 08.08.2014 02:05, schrieb Ryan:
 2012c Mac
 
 I have two short passages, about 8 measures each (325 measures in
 document), of complicated rhythms and I want to show the extended beams
 over rests and half stems. I know how to set that in the Doc Options.
 
 But, I don't want that style for the rest of the piece.
 
 Other than pressing / in Speedy, is there a way to break those beams over
 rests for the portion of the piece that I want to show flags?
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Re: [Finale] resized time signatures

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Document OptionsTime Signatures

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 The parts I am redoing from a job that was oddly done contain huge (app. 
 double-sized) time signatures.  How can I resize back to the original?  I've 
 been working with staff attributes, but without luck.
 
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Re: [Finale] Breath Mark Playback

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 On Jul 9, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Dean Rosenthal deanrosent...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, full value note, correct. This is a smart solution - hadn't thought of 
 change meter to show as to work around hidden rest. Thank you. 
 
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 On Jul 9, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I believe client wants a full-value note followed by a short interruption
 in the meter.  Only good solution would seem an added hidden rest.  Change
 meter to show as the original meter.
 On Jul 9, 2014 2:51 AM, Giovanni Andreani i...@giovanniandreani.eu
 wrote:
 
 Dean, have you tried modifying the articulation's parameters within the
 Articulation Designer window? You should be able to affect the note's
 duration during playback.
 
 Giovanni
 
 
 
 
 Giovanni Andreani
 
 www.giovanniandreani.eu
 
 Hello:
 
 Anyone care to discuss playback with respect to breath marks? I'm not sure
 what to expect here - shortening the length of the note (which is what
 appears to be the default HP) doesn't really seem to jibe with reality -
 what music really sounds like when performed - nor definition. Maybe I've
 misunderstood what the term means, but I've typically considered  a breath
 mark to indicate the place to breathe (in vocal or instrumental) resulting
 in something of a short break - not quite a caesura, but *something*.
 
 This doesn't have to do with my own music - it's for a client who wants to
 hear that brief pause without shortening the full value of the note to
 which the breath mark is attached. FYI thoughts I had or read about: could
 put in a hidden rest, but that changes the time-sig - or a zero-width
 measure...or?
 
 Thoughts? Many thanks!
 
 Dean
 
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Re: [Finale] Breath Mark Playback

[Ryan Beard]

Just be aware of music spacing problems that might arise. 

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 On Jul 9, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Dean Rosenthal deanrosent...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, full value note, correct. This is a smart solution - hadn't thought of 
 change meter to show as to work around hidden rest. Thank you. 
 
 Dean
 
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 On Jul 9, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I believe client wants a full-value note followed by a short interruption
 in the meter.  Only good solution would seem an added hidden rest.  Change
 meter to show as the original meter.
 On Jul 9, 2014 2:51 AM, Giovanni Andreani i...@giovanniandreani.eu
 wrote:
 
 Dean, have you tried modifying the articulation's parameters within the
 Articulation Designer window? You should be able to affect the note's
 duration during playback.
 
 Giovanni
 
 
 
 
 Giovanni Andreani
 
 www.giovanniandreani.eu
 
 Hello:
 
 Anyone care to discuss playback with respect to breath marks? I'm not sure
 what to expect here - shortening the length of the note (which is what
 appears to be the default HP) doesn't really seem to jibe with reality -
 what music really sounds like when performed - nor definition. Maybe I've
 misunderstood what the term means, but I've typically considered  a breath
 mark to indicate the place to breathe (in vocal or instrumental) resulting
 in something of a short break - not quite a caesura, but *something*.
 
 This doesn't have to do with my own music - it's for a client who wants to
 hear that brief pause without shortening the full value of the note to
 which the breath mark is attached. FYI thoughts I had or read about: could
 put in a hidden rest, but that changes the time-sig - or a zero-width
 measure...or?
 
 Thoughts? Many thanks!
 
 Dean
 
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Re: [Finale] 2014 navigation anomalies

[Ryan Beard]

This is supposed to be fixed in 2014b. Have you updated yet?
Ryan

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 On Jun 9, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Is anyone else experiencing scrolling misbehavior?  I'll try to describe it.
 I click to the right of the cursor in the scroll bar and instead of jumping 
 one window, there's a delay and then it jumps two windows.  Same in the other 
 direction.  Using Smartscroll (a useful app - command/option for one measure 
 to the right, command/control to the left), again there's a delay and often 
 an overrun.  This makes navigation unbelievably annoying and difficult and 
 alone makes me want to revert to 2012.  Am I alone?  (Mac OS 10.8.5 - no 
 Mavericks because I have yet to find a driver that works with my trusty old 
 HP 5000.)
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chuck
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Percussion playback

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Ah, you're not defining which notes you play to get the sound you want, you're 
defining where the snare drum note heads appears on the staff. To enter a snare 
drum note in speedy entry, you'll always use midi note 38. Finale will place it 
on the staff wherever you define in the percussion map designer. 
This distinction confused me for some time as well. 

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 I think I'm on the right path here, but I'm not sure what to do next.  I
 found the Percussion Map Designer in the Staff Tools.  I made my own map
 and chose playback note 37 (side stick) to play at staff position 6 and
 playback note 38 (snare drum) to play at staff position 7.  I selected
 my percussion map and tried to enter notes at positions 6 and 7, but the
 old sounds still play there (short whistle and long whistle).  What am I
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Re: [Finale] Finale Digest, Vol 130, Issue 25

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How do you enter notes and rests? Do you use simple entry? I'm not well versed 
in that, so I'm not much help. But in speedy, you can position the cursor using 
the up and down arrows. In the top left of the speedy frame it'll cycle through 
all the percussion instrument sounds assigned to that staff position. Once it 
says Snare Drum, you should be good. 

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 On May 31, 2014, at 10:24 PM, Bill Baker bill_ch...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 How do I enter MIDI note 38 in speedy entry?  I don't have a synthesizer
 keyboard, only a regular qwerty computer keyboard.
 
 On 05/31/2014 11:48 PM, Ryan Beard ry.squa...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Ah, you're not defining which notes you play to get the sound you want, 
 you're defining where the snare drum note heads appears on the staff. To 
 enter a snare drum note in speedy entry, you'll always use midi note 38. 
 Finale will place it on the staff wherever you define in the percussion map 
 designer. 
 This distinction confused me for some time as well. 
 
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Re: [Finale] page tiling

[Ryan Beard]

What is the time cost for you to reconstruct the tiled pages once printed? 
Still might be cheaper in the long run to just bite the bullet and print to 
11x17. 
The other option to consider would be to adjust your margins (make them 
smaller) just so you can print to letter size. Then resize before making the 
final version of the piece. 

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 On May 25, 2014, at 8:11 PM, arabus...@austin.rr.com wrote:
 
 That is more elaborate and more expensive than I want to go for working 
 scratch copies.
 
 ajr
 
  SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: 
 
 why not go to a print shop and print to 11x17?
 
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Re: [Finale] ties on ringing percussion notes

[Ryan Beard]

I add these symbols as articulations. 
They might be predefined. If not, you can create them using Engraver Font Set 
lowercase u and uppercase U. (I think... I'm not near my finale machine, so I'm 
going off my memory...)

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 On Apr 27, 2014, at 3:14 PM, arabus...@austin.rr.com wrote:
 
 When I was running Finale 2003 I put trailing ties on ringing percussion 
 notes (e.g., gong or cymbal strokes that were to ring for their full values)  
 by using the note shape tool and selecting the proper value from the 
 appropriate font. I need to do this with some percussion notes now in Finale 
 2014 (running on Windows 8), and I cannot find these symbols in either 
 standard or percussion notation. Where do I find them in 2014?
 
 Aaron J. Rabushka
 
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Re: [Finale] Entering text into Shape Designer

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Would a degree symbol at a large point size work? °
Option shift 8 on the keyboard I think.

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 wrote:
 
 Is there any way to enter text into the shape designer other than by typing
 it? I would love to be able to paste it in, but that doesn't seem to be an
 option. (I would like to use a symbol character for which there does not
 appear to be a keyboard combo.)
 
 In case someone knows a way to type a ◯ character on Mac I could try that
 too.
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Re: [Finale] Shift system margins?

[Ryan Beard]

TGTools Join Staff Systems. 

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 Is this something JW Copy layout can do?  You can select a group of measures 
 and apply the layout to target measures.  Will this work for you?
 
 
 On Apr 26, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 This is a question I probably should know the answer to, but don't:
 
 Surely there is some way — plugin-based or otherwise — to shift system 
 margin settings from one group of staves to another?
 
 For instance, let's say I'm consolidating system 1-2 into a single system, 
 and so I would like the system margins I have set up from systems 3-99 to be 
 moved to systems 2-98.  How do I do that?
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: [Finale] OT Bluetooth and Internet reception

[Ryan Beard]

Mac?
The volume on my composer and iOS devices lowers whenever I get an alert for 
email, text, etc. Maybe the same thing is happening in your case?

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 On Apr 26, 2014, at 3:20 PM, GERALD BERG gj.b...@rogers.com wrote:
 
 Hi all
 
 I got a bluetooth enabled amp for my computer system.  As I was having a lot 
 of crashing behaviour I never used the feature.  Now that things have 
 stabilized somewhat I tried it out.  I noticed the sound keeps dropping out 
 momentarily while listening over the internet. Very annoying! It doesn't 
 occur while listening to my own music files (via iTunes for example) only 
 while on the internet.  Is this a usual occurrence or can I do something 
 about it?
 
 Thanks
  
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Re: [Finale] Saxophones and Clarinet and Trumpet transposition question

[Ryan Beard]

Select Simplify Key, I think. If that doesn't work, I often just supply a 
staff style with the transposition set to display correctly. I think it's 
interval 1, key alter -6, but I'm not in front of my finale machine now, so 
don't take my word for it. 
Or just use Clarinet in A. 

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 I am working on a passage in C# minor.  When I chose that key, Finale 
 transposes the Eb instruments nicely into 5 flats - fine, but the Bb 
 instruments show sharps (D#minor).  How can I control this so that the Bb 
 instruments show up in a flat key?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chuck
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Hard hyphen question

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 On Mar 31, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Christopher Smith 
 christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote:
 
 In the Text menu when you are typing lyrics, there is a command insert hard 
 hyphen for which the keystroke is opt-hyphen. It is the same length as a 
 hyphen (which beats the last opt-hyphen which was an en-dash, not an 
 em-dash), but seems to be set a trifle higher in Times New Roman.
 
 Christopher
 
 
 On Mon Mar 31, at MondayMar 31 10:11 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
 
 I never learned what Unicode is. Does the fact that it is supported mean 
 that there is indeed a hard hyphen keystroke somewhere that looks better 
 than the em dash (which looks to me better than nothing)?  I will do some 
 research when I return from dinner. This must be on the web somewhere but my 
 phone screen is not welcoming to web browsing for my eyes. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 31, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Bruce Kau kaub...@hawaii.rr.com wrote:
 
 Unicode is supported, i think since 2012. not sure.
 On 3/31/2014 10:51 AM, Mark D Lew wrote:
 Mark - it's been a while!  Nice to know you are still here.
 Thanks, Chuck.
 
 I don't do much engraving these days (or much music at all, really), but 
 I've stayed subscribed to the list and I still skim the subject lines as 
 they flow through my email inbox.
 
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Re: [Finale] Hard hyphen question

[Ryan Beard]

I would probably just enter a regular hyphen in a measure attached text box. 
It'll always move with the layout, but you might have to adjust. 

Sent from my iPhone

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 christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote:
 
 In the Text menu when you are typing lyrics, there is a command insert hard 
 hyphen for which the keystroke is opt-hyphen. It is the same length as a 
 hyphen (which beats the last opt-hyphen which was an en-dash, not an 
 em-dash), but seems to be set a trifle higher in Times New Roman.
 
 Christopher
 
 
 On Mon Mar 31, at MondayMar 31 10:11 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
 
 I never learned what Unicode is. Does the fact that it is supported mean 
 that there is indeed a hard hyphen keystroke somewhere that looks better 
 than the em dash (which looks to me better than nothing)?  I will do some 
 research when I return from dinner. This must be on the web somewhere but my 
 phone screen is not welcoming to web browsing for my eyes. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 31, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Bruce Kau kaub...@hawaii.rr.com wrote:
 
 Unicode is supported, i think since 2012. not sure.
 On 3/31/2014 10:51 AM, Mark D Lew wrote:
 Mark - it's been a while!  Nice to know you are still here.
 Thanks, Chuck.
 
 I don't do much engraving these days (or much music at all, really), but 
 I've stayed subscribed to the list and I still skim the subject lines as 
 they flow through my email inbox.
 
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Re: [Finale] keyboard shortcuts not working in 2014

[Ryan Beard]

That makes sense. Thanks. 

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 It's a focus issue. After switching back to Finale from another application, 
 you need to manually click on the menubar once before any of the keyboard 
 shortcuts work. Text insert shortcuts also often require an additional click 
 on the menubar before they begin working again.
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
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 On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Mac OS.
 
 Keyboard shortcuts don't seem to be working reliably in 2014. When I'm in
 the staff group name window, I get the doink alert sound when I type a
 keyboard shortcut for text inserts. Using the mouse and menus works, but
 it's very inconvenient.
 Same thing happens when I want to resize using Command-Shift-.(period).
 
 Anyone else experiencing this?
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[Finale] Paper supply

[Ryan Beard]

Hi all,
My paper supplier has discontinued the product I like, so I need to switch to 
something else. What do you use and where do you get it?
Ryan

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Re: [Finale] Paper supply

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That's who I use. The paper I like is discontinued. 

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 On 3/10/2014 12:30 PM, Ryan Beard wrote:
 Hi all,
 My paper supplier has discontinued the product I like, so I need to switch 
 to something else. What do you use and where do you get it?
 Ryan
 
 Kelly Paper has always been good to me.
 
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Re: [Finale] Typing around text insert

[Ryan Beard]

Look at the cursor before you enter text before or after an insert. If it's a 
thick line, then any typing will change the insert. If the cursor is thin, then 
it's not part of the insert and you're safe to add text. 

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 wrote:
 
 Here's something that drives me crazy in recent versions. Suppose I have a
 text title consisting exclusively of a text insert (such as Composer or
 Title). I can't figure out a way to add text before that text insert
 without changing the contents of the text insert. In trying to make things
 convenient they have royally screwed me up.
 
 Does anyone have any tips?
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Re: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.

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 On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote:
 
 That sounds confusing.  If I were reading that score I'd play all 4 
 times before proceeding to the next section.
 
 As far as making the playback work right, that is simply a matter of 
 putting in the right number for jump on pass at the to coda mark.
 
 The way I normally see this indicated to the musician is to add a 
 parenthetical comment under the D.C. or D.S. mark saying (Repeats good 
 on DC).  If you do it that way, there can be no confusion
 
 
 
 
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 From: Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:52 PM
 Subject: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.
 
 
 Can't figure out how to make Finale take the repeats on the D.C.
 Yes, I understand that repeats aren't usually taken on the D.C., but I
 want
 it to this time.
 Sorry, that should be 1,3 in the first and 2,4 in the second.  Doh!
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.

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Yeah of course an instruction should be there in the print. But, I'm just 
concerned with getting the playback to behave how I want it. 

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 That sounds confusing.  If I were reading that score I'd play all 4 
 times before proceeding to the next section.
 
 As far as making the playback work right, that is simply a matter of 
 putting in the right number for jump on pass at the to coda mark.
 
 The way I normally see this indicated to the musician is to add a 
 parenthetical comment under the D.C. or D.S. mark saying (Repeats good 
 on DC).  If you do it that way, there can be no confusion
 
 
 
 
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 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:52 PM
 Subject: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.
 
 
 Can't figure out how to make Finale take the repeats on the D.C.
 Yes, I understand that repeats aren't usually taken on the D.C., but I
 want
 it to this time.
 Sorry, that should be 1,3 in the first and 2,4 in the second.  Doh!
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.

[Ryan Beard]

There is no coda. Just a DC al fine, with both sections having 1st and 2nd 
endings. I want the repeats in the first section to be taken in the DC. 

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 On Feb 23, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote:
 
 Maybe I don't understand the problem. I think the issue is that you need 
 to set the correct number in the To Coda marker for Jump on pass #.
 
 
 
 
 On 2/23/2014 6:15 PM, Ryan Beard wrote:
 Yeah of course an instruction should be there in the print. But, I'm just 
 concerned with getting the playback to behave how I want it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote:
 
 That sounds confusing.  If I were reading that score I'd play all 4
 times before proceeding to the next section.
 
 As far as making the playback work right, that is simply a matter of
 putting in the right number for jump on pass at the to coda mark.
 
 The way I normally see this indicated to the musician is to add a
 parenthetical comment under the D.C. or D.S. mark saying (Repeats good
 on DC).  If you do it that way, there can be no confusion
 
 
 
 
 On 2/21/2014 7:20 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:52 PM
 Subject: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.
 
 
 Can't figure out how to make Finale take the repeats on the D.C.
 Yes, I understand that repeats aren't usually taken on the D.C., but I
 want
 it to this time.
 Sorry, that should be 1,3 in the first and 2,4 in the second.  Doh!
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Horn question

[Ryan Beard]

I'll do that occasionally during a rehearsal or home practice session just to 
keep myself awake. Wouldn't do it in a performance though, since intonation in 
unpredictable. 

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 On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 In forty years of horn playing I have never met a horn player who would do
 that.  (Even though it could work)
 
 Cheers,
 
 Lawrence
 
 
 On 10 February 2014 00:11, Michael Lawlor mjlaw...@virginmedia.com wrote:
 
 You can still write for horn in G and tell the horn players to play on
 the Bb division with valves 12 (or just 3) all the way through and use
 hand stopping for notes not in the harmonic series.
 Michael Lawlor
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Re: [Finale] 2014 limitation

[Ryan Beard]

 Has something to do with the coding of the dialog boxes. Tobias says he's 
working on an update. Don't think there's anything to do but wait until he 
releases the new version. 

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 On Nov 21, 2013, at 6:58 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 TG Tools Align/Move keyboard shortcut is broken in 2014.  I don't know if 
 this has been mentioned earlier.  If so, I may have missed it, but its 
 absence is a significant workflow inhibitor.  I will report it.  Other 
 irritated listers please join the effort.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chuck
 
 
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Re: [Finale] random thoughts on 2014

[Ryan Beard]

I wouldn't go that far. A courtesy accidental is very helpful on those 
occasions when you really mean to have an F# and and F-nat at the same time in 
an otherwise tonal piece. More of a this is not a printing error thing. 
Granted, a non-courtesy would do just fine in that instance, too. 

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 On Nov 19, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Patrick Sheehan patricksheehanmu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Courtesy accidentals (ANYWHERE) are for the weak.  If you *need* them in the
 part, then that means you're not following the key signature.  Back to
 school!
 
 patricksheehanmu...@gmail.com
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Smith [mailto:christopher.sm...@videotron.ca] 
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:28 PM
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] random thoughts on 2014
 
 If you will permit a somewhat differing opinion, I think there are places
 where cautionaries are necessary, even when there isn't a key change, and I
 have figured out after many years that NON-parenthesised ones actually are
 easier to read.
 
 I know that parentheses make logical sense, that a parenthesised accidental
 is kind of like saying, I KNOW you know this, but here's a reminder to
 differentiate it from one that is absolutely necessary. But from a distance,
 parentheses around an accidental makes all three (sharp, flat, and natural)
 into the same outline, so you have to read more closely to see which
 accidental it actually is. Already, sharps and naturals are easy to confuse
 with each other; the parentheses make it worse. I keep getting caught by
 these on the gigs I do where the Finale user is less than professional. And
 Sibelius seems to have this redundant accidental default that puts in
 accidentals on the SECOND of two tied notes!
 
 Christopher
 
 
 On Sun Nov 10, at SundayNov 10 12:39 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
 
 
 For those of us with imperfect eyesight, we cannot always see the 
 accidental clearly.  If I can see that there is an accidental, then I 
 can make a quick judgment about whether it is most likely a flat, sharp, 
 or natural and be right almost all the time.  People who add unnecessary 
 accidental markings without parenthesizing them should be shot, IMHO.  
 And people who pencil in unnecessary accidentals BESIDE notes in the 
 music should also be shot.  If one needs a reminder about a note, write 
 the accidental ABOVE the note, with a parenthesis and there will never 
 be any confusion.  IMHO, the only time an accidental should be penciled 
 BESIDE a note is when correcting a misprint.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] stem connections

[Ryan Beard]

Thanks, but that affects all notes. My original email said I only need to 
change a few notes. 

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 On Nov 18, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Peter Taylor pe...@euphonium.plus.com wrote:
 
 As I'm still using FinWin 2005 I don't know if this will help you.  In my 
 version I go to Document Options  Stems.  I check the Stem Connections box 
 and click the button, and there I can adjust the stem connection to each 
 different kind of notehead.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 5:47 PM
 Subject: [Finale] stem connections
 
 
 Finale 2012c Mac
 
 Is there a way to individually adjust the stem/note head connection? Not
 looking for the Stem Settings in the staff attributes as those affect all
 notes.
 The grace note triangle note head is placed slightly higher on the staff
 than the full size note, and the stem continues past the note head.
 A staff style applied just to those notes won't work since the grace note
 is attached to the main beat. Finale will adjust both stems.
 
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Re: [Finale] print dialogue has changed upon reinstall

[Ryan Beard]

No that option doesn't appear. 

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 On Oct 21, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Michael launay-c...@gmx.net wrote:
 
 Do you see a small print dialog with a button called Show Details on it? If 
 that's the case, click on this button to get the complete dialog. The options 
 you mention are in a popup menu.
 
 Michael
 
 On 21 Oct 2013, at 03:43, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello
 Mac, OS X 10.8.5. Finale 2012c
 
 I recently reinstalled Finale to get Garritan instruments working. However,
 upon printing now, the dialogue box has changed. I no longer get the
 options of paper handling, paper feed, etc. Other applications aren't
 affected; they behave as expected.
 
 How do I get the complete dialogue back?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2014

[Ryan Beard]

What is meant  by auto-horizontilation and layer independent pauses?

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On Oct 15, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Douglas Brown douglas.br...@wayland.wbu.edu 
wrote:

 What does everybody think? It's about time accidentals between layers
 was looked at, I think we've all been waiting for that for years. But is
 this really all we get after 2 years? As a Windows guy the Mac re-write
 is no use to me.
 
 I, for one, am looking forward to a streamlined tool palette, easy no-key 
 capability, layer-independent pauses, improved accidental handling between 
 layers, auto-horizontalization (saves LOTS of time in editing), improved 
 handling of percussion details, and last, but certainly not least... even 
 more Garritan sounds that come standard.
 
 The two that do not matter to me so much are 1) Mac-compatibility and 2) new 
 file format.  However, I do like that MakeMusic does want to make sure to 
 take care of their users on down the road. And who knows, maybe whatever is 
 happening with the new file format might be something I need.
 
 These are good improvements, and I concur with the reply that the new code is 
 something exciting to look forward to.  I was getting tired of trying to work 
 around the bugs.
 
 
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Re: [Finale] copy time signatures

[Ryan Beard]

And I've found that you need to select all in the destination document before 
pasting. 

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On Sep 23, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 You need to copy the full stack of measures from the original document.
 
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Re: [Finale] Fin Mac 2006d and Mac OS 10.8.2

[Ryan Beard]

It is not compatible. 10.8 doesn't support any power pc apps.  You'll have to 
upgrade finale if you upgrade your OS. 

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On Mar 3, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Nick Raspa nj...@me.com wrote:

 Can anyone tell me if Fin Mac 2006d is compatible with the new Mac OS 10.8.2 
 with intell i5 (sorry I don't remember which animal name they are currently 
 using:).  I don't want to chance installing it and find there is a problem or 
 significant issues that make the migration less then desirable.  
 Unfortunately I can't upgrade to the current version of Finale just yet, but, 
 I would like to migrate whatever software I can from my old computer (Mac G4) 
 right now.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Finale] Out of Range Notes

[Ryan Beard]

Is display in concert pitch checked? Uncheck that and the written ranges 
should be ok. 

On Aug 9, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Neal Gittleman nealg...@mac.com wrote:

 
 Actually D5 (sounding) is the lowest note on a 
 modern piccolo, although apparently there were a 
 few available in Vienna in the late 19th century 
 with low C5.  But no piccolo plays below that.
 Not talking sounding, talking written (not score-at-concert pitch).  The 
 lowest note the samples play is an octave above the actual lowest note of the 
 instrument.
 
 For horn it's more complicated.  The F horn's 
 high C (F5) is a practical limit, but certainly 
 not a theoretical limit since that depends 
 entirely on the player for ANY brass instrument. 
 I agree that it's an artificial limit.  (How low 
 do the horn samples go?)
 If you define (reasonably) high C as the practical limit, the samples end a 
 5th below that.
 
 But it does seem strange to NOT extend the sample 
 ranges, since it should be so easy to do so even 
 if the instruments themselves can't be counted on 
 to produce the notes.
 
 John
 
 
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Re: [Finale] autosave

[Ryan Beard]

It's in program options, I think. 

On Jun 24, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Linda Worsley li...@ganymuse.com wrote:

 Mac - Finale 2010 - I can't find autosave (by any name) in the menu bars.
 
 
 Recently lost 4 hours of work when I neglected to save manually.  Dumb dumb
 dumb!
 That said, I'll probably do it again when I get too involved.  Need
 autosave, which I used to use all the time on big scores.
 
 Help!  and thanks in advance.
 
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Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010

[Ryan Beard]

The issue is changing to an instrument that isn't already preloaded. For 
example, Horn in D, Horn in E, etc. 

On Apr 18, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca 
wrote:

 
 On Wed Apr 18, at WednesdayApr 18 2:19 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
 
 I am sure Carl can speak for himself, but my recollection was that it was
 the transposition problem. If you are entering big 19th scores in Finale,
 2012 is a non-starter because of this problem, esp. if an earlier version
 is available.
 
 The transposition problem is that Fin2012 forces you to change instruments
 just to change transposition. While this may make sense for saxophones or
 oboe/e.h., it makes absolutely no sense for trumpets, french horns, or
 wagner tubas in a 19th century setting.
 
 Robert,
 
 It's not really that big a kludge. Here is the procedure from MakeMusic, to 
 change the transposition but keep the same playback.
 
 To change the transposition of a staff you will need to change the 
 instrument, then adjust the playback sounds and transposition. To do so:
 
 1. Use the Selection Tool
 2. Highlight the measure you would like the transposition to occur in
 3. Go to Utilities  Change Instrument and select a different instrument 
 (each new transposition on the same line will need a different instrument 
 selected. Any single line instrument will work because we will change the 
 playback sound)
 4. Go to Window  ScoreManager and click on the Instrument List tab
 5. Just to the left of the instrument name you will see an arrow pointing at 
 the name. Click on that arrow to expand that instrument information. Select 
 the instrument that you changed the line to at the bottom of the expanded 
 section
 6. With this instrumented selected, you can change the transposition with the 
 pull-down menu at the bottom right of the ScoreManager. If it is not one of 
 the common transpositions in the menu, you can select Other and create your 
 own.
 7. Still in the ScoreManager, change the playback sound of the new instrument 
 by clicking on the assigned sound and selecting Horn in F from the pull-down 
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Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010

[Ryan Beard]

Yes, but it gets complicated when you have a piece with horn in D and horn in E 
and horn in F, and their bass clef counterparts, like so many 19th century 
pieces. 
If MakeMusic can preload the Vuvuzela in the instrument list, they should 
certainly include standard horn and trumpet transpositions. 

On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca 
wrote:

 Yes, the procedure I outlined is to do just that. It isn't preloaded, but it 
 isn't all that difficult. Make this change in your default document and you 
 shouldn't have to do it again.
 
 Actually, I haven't checked to see if it saves to my default doc. But I'm 
 hoping it will work!
 
 Christopher
 
 
 On Wed Apr 18, at WednesdayApr 18 7:53 PM, Ryan Beard wrote:
 
 The issue is changing to an instrument that isn't already preloaded. For 
 example, Horn in D, Horn in E, etc. 
 
 On Apr 18, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Christopher Smith 
 christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote:
 
 
 On Wed Apr 18, at WednesdayApr 18 2:19 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
 
 I am sure Carl can speak for himself, but my recollection was that it was
 the transposition problem. If you are entering big 19th scores in Finale,
 2012 is a non-starter because of this problem, esp. if an earlier version
 is available.
 
 The transposition problem is that Fin2012 forces you to change instruments
 just to change transposition. While this may make sense for saxophones or
 oboe/e.h., it makes absolutely no sense for trumpets, french horns, or
 wagner tubas in a 19th century setting.
 
 Robert,
 
 It's not really that big a kludge. Here is the procedure from MakeMusic, to 
 change the transposition but keep the same playback.
 
 To change the transposition of a staff you will need to change the 
 instrument, then adjust the playback sounds and transposition. To do so:
 
 1. Use the Selection Tool
 2. Highlight the measure you would like the transposition to occur in
 3. Go to Utilities  Change Instrument and select a different instrument 
 (each new transposition on the same line will need a different instrument 
 selected. Any single line instrument will work because we will change the 
 playback sound)
 4. Go to Window  ScoreManager and click on the Instrument List tab
 5. Just to the left of the instrument name you will see an arrow pointing 
 at the name. Click on that arrow to expand that instrument information. 
 Select the instrument that you changed the line to at the bottom of the 
 expanded section
 6. With this instrumented selected, you can change the transposition with 
 the pull-down menu at the bottom right of the ScoreManager. If it is not 
 one of the common transpositions in the menu, you can select Other and 
 create your own.
 7. Still in the ScoreManager, change the playback sound of the new 
 instrument by clicking on the assigned sound and selecting Horn in F from 
 the pull-down menu.
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Re: [Finale] EPS problems in 2008

[Ryan Beard]

That's what the client wants. I'm not going to argue. 

On Mar 29, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Can't you just use PDFs?
 
 I don't quite understand why anyone would need or want to use EPS in this day 
 and age, but if for some reason you do need this, I believe you can export 
 the PDF to EPS.
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
 
 
 
 On 28 Mar 2012, at 6:17 PM, Ryan wrote:
 
 I have an old document made in FinMac 2008. I need to make EPS files.
 However, only the first page exports correctly. The other pages of the
 document don't. Any idea as to what would be causing this? I've done a font
 check, and removed document fonts that aren't on the system. This is a real
 mystery.
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Re: [Finale] EPS problems in 2008

[Ryan Beard]

The other pages can't be opened period. When importing into illustrator, there 
is no preview, just a gray box and it won't print. 
The preview app on my Mac also can't convert it to a PDF. 

On Mar 29, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Paul Hayden phayden...@cox.net wrote:

 The other pages have _nothing_ on them, or do they have some typical 
 corruptions like dotted staff lines (that's an old problem)?
 
 Paul Hayden
 
 
 On 28 Mar, Ryan wrote:
 
 I have an old document made in FinMac 2008. I need to make EPS files.
 However, only the first page exports correctly. The other pages of the
 document don't. Any idea as to what would be causing this? I've done a font
 check, and removed document fonts that aren't on the system. This is a real
 mystery.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] measure width for whole rest (empty) bars

[Ryan Beard]

I've tried that. Even with a minimum width of 1 space the empty measures are 
still wider than adjacent measures with music in them. 

On Dec 29, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Jari Williamsson 
jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote:

 On 2011-12-29 00:32, Ryan wrote:
 How do I globally change the default width for measures with default whole
 rests in them? All the steps I've taken so far have not changed anything.
 
 Change the minimum width and respace.
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Crazy percussion font

[Ryan Beard]

Is there a staff style applied to it?

On Dec 18, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Ryan,
 
 Tried that - I've checked it, unchecked it, tried all the options in that
 box.
 
 Any more ideas?  At the moment the percussion lines are unusable.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Lawrence
 
 On 18 December 2011 02:47, Ryan Beard ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try this
 
 Select staff tool. Click that percussion staff.
 In the window that pops up, perhaps use alternate font is checked. If it
 is, uncheck it and your problems should be solved.
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Crazy percussion font

[Ryan Beard]

Try this

Select staff tool. Click that percussion staff. 
In the window that pops up, perhaps use alternate font is checked. If it is, 
uncheck it and your problems should be solved. 
The exact label may be different; I'm not at my finale computer now, and I'm 
pulling this from my memory. 

On Dec 17, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please can somebody tell me how to get rid of the crazy percussion font
 that is being forced upon me when I choose the percussion instruments in
 Score Manager.
 
 I can find nothing in the manual which refers to this (apologies if I've
 missed it).
 
 I'm on Winfin2012
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Finale] Staff attributes question

[Ryan Beard]

Which version of finale are you using?

On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Barbara Levy barb...@msn.com wrote:

 
 
 
 
 Hi, all I'm in the process of copying a clarinet with piano 
 accompaniment work and am running into a problem... The notation for the 
 clarinet part is in F major; the piano part is in Eb.  OK, so far, so good.  
 I've set the transposition attributes for the clarinet part to  (Bb) Up M2, 
 Add 2 Sharps which should allow playback at concert pitch.   For some 
 reason, I cannot get this setting to stick!  Finale keeps resetting to (Bb 
 treble clef) Up M9, add 2 Sharps which causes the playback to be an octave 
 too low.  I've changed the staff to clarinet within the instrument list. 
 What am I missing or doing wrong?  Help, please!!!  I need to have this done 
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[Finale] {Fraud?} {Disarmed} Re: copy to drum part

[Ryan Beard]

Try the plug in JW Rhythm Copy (or something similarly named). 
Otherwise it should be (fairly) easy with judicious use of Display Active Layer 
Only in conjunction with copy/paste and the hide ledger lines plug in.

On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:32 PM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote:

 I have a fairly (ridiculously) complex soli section where I'd like to 
 copy the rhythmic patterns of the trumpet 1 line to the drum part - all 
 on one line.
 Is there a way to take all of the rhythms and put them onto one pitch on 
 the drum line?
 
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Re: [Finale] dialog box off screen

[Ryan Beard]

On May 31, 2011, at 10:49 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Klaus, Ryan,
 
 Guys, this is a known problem and Mark's hypothesis about the dialog boxes 
 being located off-screen, while a sensible conclusion, is mistaken. More 
 pixels won't help. He needs to rebuild his prefs.
 
 Cheers,
 
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 On 1 Jun 2011, at 1:22 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
 
 Problem about changing screen resolution is, that MacBook has its maximum 
 resolution as its default. And you need more pixels to see the disappeared 
 box.
 
 There may be yet another solution. If you still have your previous system, 
 open a Finale file there, drag the dialogue box to the center of the first 
 page, close and save, move to the MacBook, and there place the dialogue box 
 where you want it.
 
 Klaus
 
 
 
 From: Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2011 7:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Finale] dialog box off screen
 
 You can also just try changing your screen resolution in the system
 preferences.
 
 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre 
 yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Apparently your new screen has fewer pixels than your previous one, where
 the said dialog bow was near the edge.
 
 One method maybe solving the problem is about adding an external monitor,
 if you have one, and then about by means of the monitor control panel from
 system controls  moving that external monitor around until you see the
 dialog box. Then drag the box to your on-board screen and unmount the
 external monitor.
 
 My terms may be inexact, as I work on Macs with Danish as the system
 language
 
 Klaus
 
 
 
 From: Mark D Lew markd...@earthlink.net
 
 I've recently switched to a new computer (MacBook Pro).  The re-install
 and copy of Finale preferences went pretty smoothly, except that today I
 discovered that my Edit System Margins dialog box won't appear.  When I do
 Page Layout  Systems  Edit Margins it acts as if it's doing it, except 
 the
 dialog box is nowhere to be found. I can only conclude that somehow it
 managed to get located off my screen.
 
 If I remove the preferences file and restart Finale, it does indeed appear
 again. But then everything else looks wrong because I lose a ton of other
 preferences that I want to keep.  Is there any way I can get that one 
 dialog
 box back without having to reset all my preferences from scratch?
 
 
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Re: [Finale] dialog box off screen

[Ryan Beard]

Bummer. 
Is there a way to avoid this problem?

On May 31, 2011, at 10:49 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Klaus, Ryan,
 
 Guys, this is a known problem and Mark's hypothesis about the dialog boxes 
 being located off-screen, while a sensible conclusion, is mistaken. More 
 pixels won't help. He needs to rebuild his prefs.
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
 
 
 
 On 1 Jun 2011, at 1:22 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
 
 Problem about changing screen resolution is, that MacBook has its maximum 
 resolution as its default. And you need more pixels to see the disappeared 
 box.
 
 There may be yet another solution. If you still have your previous system, 
 open a Finale file there, drag the dialogue box to the center of the first 
 page, close and save, move to the MacBook, and there place the dialogue box 
 where you want it.
 
 Klaus
 
 
 
 From: Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2011 7:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Finale] dialog box off screen
 
 You can also just try changing your screen resolution in the system
 preferences.
 
 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre 
 yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Apparently your new screen has fewer pixels than your previous one, where
 the said dialog bow was near the edge.
 
 One method maybe solving the problem is about adding an external monitor,
 if you have one, and then about by means of the monitor control panel from
 system controls  moving that external monitor around until you see the
 dialog box. Then drag the box to your on-board screen and unmount the
 external monitor.
 
 My terms may be inexact, as I work on Macs with Danish as the system
 language
 
 Klaus
 
 
 
 From: Mark D Lew markd...@earthlink.net
 
 I've recently switched to a new computer (MacBook Pro).  The re-install
 and copy of Finale preferences went pretty smoothly, except that today I
 discovered that my Edit System Margins dialog box won't appear.  When I do
 Page Layout  Systems  Edit Margins it acts as if it's doing it, except 
 the
 dialog box is nowhere to be found. I can only conclude that somehow it
 managed to get located off my screen.
 
 If I remove the preferences file and restart Finale, it does indeed appear
 again. But then everything else looks wrong because I lose a ton of other
 preferences that I want to keep.  Is there any way I can get that one 
 dialog
 box back without having to reset all my preferences from scratch?
 
 
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Re: [Finale] [OT] new music notation seminars (chicago, winnipeg)

[Ryan Beard]

The important part - Southern California! San Diego/Los Angeles. 

On Mar 28, 2011, at 11:42 AM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com 
wrote:

 
 You ever come out to the west coast?
 
 not this time but where would west coast mean?  i am looking into another 
 one later...
 
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Re: [Finale] [OT] plural of rubato = rubati?

[Ryan Beard]

On Mar 24, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@mac.com wrote:

 Hey Jef,
 
 Fercrissakes regularize. If you need to pluralize, use rubatos. You know, 
 like pianos, violins, and all the other regularized musical terms we use 
 every day.
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
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 On 24 Mar 2011, at 5:32 PM, SN jef chippewa wrote:
 
 
 does this word actually exist?
 
 This gives musicians some freedom for rubati and interpretation.
 
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[Finale] test

[Ryan Beard]

Just a test. I sent a message to the list, but no one answered. It's
happened before so I'm wondering if it's a problem with my emails not
getting through. If it's personal, and no one wants to help me, I guess I'll
take my ball and go home!
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Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

[Ryan Beard]

On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jumping into this conversation with both feet in my mouth:
 
 ...
 I know little about it, but get the idea that mode-switching is now
 considered generally bad for workflow in computer apps.
 
 It it, indeed.
 The problem with modes is that the very same keystroke will produce
 completely different results in different modes.
 This requires the user to permanently be aware of the mode he is working
 in.
 
 OK, youse guys has lost me.  Is Finale modal or non-modal?
 
 I'm guessing mostly the former.  I know one mode-switch in Finale that
 has bitten me several times, and I only recently figured out what I
 was doing:
 
 Now and then, especially if i have auto-spacing switched off, with the
 mass-mover tool I may hit ctrl-A to select the whole document, then
 hit 4 to re-space.  I'll do this really without thinking about it,
 maybe while I AM thinking about a musical decision or something else
 dreadfully important.  But, every once in a while, when I have
 semi-consciously typed ctrl-A, 4, every line of my orchestral score
 will start, one by one, changing to a Bb tenor sax staff (sounds like
 a bad dream, doesn't it?)  Then, one ctrl-z won't undo the mess - a
 whole series of ctrl-zs are necessary (or pulling up the edit menu
 to view the undo/redo history there).
 
 Recently I had this mass sax-change operation happen to a chamber
 orchestra score I was working on - I dutifully undid all the damage,
 or so I thought.  Just before I emailed the PDF of the score to the
 conductor, I started looking closely at the Bb clarinet part - it had
 gone haywire - most of it was now a minor 7th off, but not all.  I had
 to go through the whole score and check/fix this one staff, a few bars
 at a time.
 
 If anyone is still reading, have you figured out what I occasionally
 do wrong to cause this dreadful mass score change into a tenor sax
 band?  I finally did - it happens when I type ctrl-A, 4 while the
 STAFF Tool is selected instead of the Mass Mover tool.  So, context is
 indeed everything.  Yikes!
 
 
 Raymond Horton
 Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
 Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
 Composer, Arranger
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Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale

[Ryan Beard]

Sorry about the blank message. 

Raymond, that scenario happened to me quite frequently. Luckily I caught it in 
time, though. I finally came to my senses and removed the '4' metatool from the 
staff tool in my default document. It still happens occasionally on older 
documents!

On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jumping into this conversation with both feet in my mouth:
 
 ...
 I know little about it, but get the idea that mode-switching is now
 considered generally bad for workflow in computer apps.
 
 It it, indeed.
 The problem with modes is that the very same keystroke will produce
 completely different results in different modes.
 This requires the user to permanently be aware of the mode he is working
 in.
 
 OK, youse guys has lost me.  Is Finale modal or non-modal?
 
 I'm guessing mostly the former.  I know one mode-switch in Finale that
 has bitten me several times, and I only recently figured out what I
 was doing:
 
 Now and then, especially if i have auto-spacing switched off, with the
 mass-mover tool I may hit ctrl-A to select the whole document, then
 hit 4 to re-space.  I'll do this really without thinking about it,
 maybe while I AM thinking about a musical decision or something else
 dreadfully important.  But, every once in a while, when I have
 semi-consciously typed ctrl-A, 4, every line of my orchestral score
 will start, one by one, changing to a Bb tenor sax staff (sounds like
 a bad dream, doesn't it?)  Then, one ctrl-z won't undo the mess - a
 whole series of ctrl-zs are necessary (or pulling up the edit menu
 to view the undo/redo history there).
 
 Recently I had this mass sax-change operation happen to a chamber
 orchestra score I was working on - I dutifully undid all the damage,
 or so I thought.  Just before I emailed the PDF of the score to the
 conductor, I started looking closely at the Bb clarinet part - it had
 gone haywire - most of it was now a minor 7th off, but not all.  I had
 to go through the whole score and check/fix this one staff, a few bars
 at a time.
 
 If anyone is still reading, have you figured out what I occasionally
 do wrong to cause this dreadful mass score change into a tenor sax
 band?  I finally did - it happens when I type ctrl-A, 4 while the
 STAFF Tool is selected instead of the Mass Mover tool.  So, context is
 indeed everything.  Yikes!
 
 
 Raymond Horton
 Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
 Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
 Composer, Arranger
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Re: [Finale] fort. markings

[Ryan Beard]

Curious, why do you have the repeat sign on the other side of the time 
signature? 

On Jan 9, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Kim Patrick Clow telem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I removed the italics, because after your comment, I realize that
 typically in my own editions, I use italics for editorial additions.
 
 I initially use them because in the sources, dynamics are written in
 an italic script. I guess that's bad on my part.
 
 Here's a screen shot of what I have now:
 
 http://oi55.tinypic.com/2ng6ftl.jpg
 
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Finale] Naming PDFs

[Ryan Beard]

I use this system:

01_Piccolo
02_Flute_1
03_Flute_2
etc.

I'd love to hear a better way, too!

On Dec 17, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Mike Casteel mike.cast...@mac.com wrote:

 Does anyone know of a way to logically name PDFs so they appear in score 
 order within a folder? Back in the days of part extraction, it was easy to 
 add the staff number (%n), but now with linked parts, it seems to have added 
 a step in my process of managing large batches of PDFs.
 
 Thanks!
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Re: [Finale] printing output vs. finale file/pdf

[Ryan Beard]

 You didn't specify, but I assume you had kinkos print from a PDF file. I seem 
to remember having this same problem. For some reason, PDFs created by that 
version of finale couldn't print the rolls correctly. I'm sorry , but I think 
the only solution I found was to upgrade Finale. 

On Nov 26, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Nick Raspa nj...@me.com wrote:

 I am using FinMac 2K6d.  I have a marimba file which has been formatted for a 
 10 x 13 page size.  I don't have a large format printer, so I have to do the 
 final draft by taking the work to kinkos.  The format was correct but the 
 rolls didn't come out right.  There should be three slashes for each note 
 rolled note, however, there are only two on the printout and they are 
 separated by a large space.  It looks like one of the slashes is missing (the 
 one in the middle perhaps).  I took a look at the original finale file and 
 all three are there.  I took a look at the page size and it is correct 
 (although the pdf file shows letter size - but then all the other files do as 
 well and they came out fine.  Actually, the marimba part is formatted 
 properly based on 10 x 13 as well...I don't understand this but it doesn't 
 seem that page format is the problem - but I may be wrong.)
 
 I printed the part on my printer and, despite not being a large format 
 printer, what I got was letter size and correct.  There doesn't seem to be 
 anything in the original notation that needs to be corrected, but somewhere 
 in the formatting(??).  I have uploaded both the scanned image of the 
 problematic copy and a pdf of the original finale file.  I am not sure where 
 the problem is but I venture to guess that until I push the right button, the 
 printout from Kinkos won't change.  Anyone have a suggestion?  Here is a link 
 to the two files:
 
 https://public.me.com/njrmuse
 The one marked marimba scanned is the problematic image from kinkos and the 
 one marked pdf is from the original finale file.
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