Re: [Finale] Divided 7/4
I’ve done this before by saving as many files as needed (for each variance of multi-measure rest) after completing everything else. Then just delete bars. It can be a smaller kludge than having to deal with bar numbers etc. Steve P. On 8 Oct 2014, at 06:00, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: For this piece I'm acting as editor rather than composer, so I don't feel at liberty to change the meter from 7/4. (Were I the composer, I'd probably just alternate between 3/4 and 4/4.) I though about using expressions for the dotted barlines, but the group barlines for the keyboard part would be a challenge. Maybe no worse a challenge than my workaround for the multimeas rests, though. There's also the issue of note-spacing. I guess every solution requires extra manual work. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: On Tue Oct 7, at TuesdayOct 7 6:52 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: On 10/7/2014 6:28 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I'm working on a piece in 7/4 that has dotted barlines showing the 4+3 or 3+4 subdivisions. So far the way I am handling it is to put in 2 real bars totaling 7/4 for each graphic bar, with dotted barlines on the odd real bars and include in meas numbering unchecked on the even real bars. Leaving aside the vagaries of unchecking include in meas numbering, which like so many recent Finale features is only about 60% implemented throughout the program, the main issue I have is multimeas rest in the parts. The only solution I have come up with is to put real rest in, force create the multimeas rest (using my plugin for the purpose) and then manually add the multimeas rest with expressions. Does anyone have a better overall solution than this? I can't think of a better solution for 7/4 other than to suggest that if it were converted to 7/8 it would be much easier to show the 3-4 and 4-3 grouping via barring and you wouldn't need to mess around with measure numbers or multi-rests. Another solution for 7/4 (not necessarily better, but different) would be to leave them as 7/4 measures and create an articulation of a dotted vertical line which you can then insert where you want in each measure -- again no measure number messes and no multi-rest problems. -- David H. Bailey Your second paragraph is what I do, except I use the dotted barline expression that comes with Finale now for a few versions, and use a blank articulation if I need to open up more horizontal space. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Divided 7/4
I'm working on a piece in 7/4 that has dotted barlines showing the 4+3 or 3+4 subdivisions. So far the way I am handling it is to put in 2 real bars totaling 7/4 for each graphic bar, with dotted barlines on the odd real bars and include in meas numbering unchecked on the even real bars. Leaving aside the vagaries of unchecking include in meas numbering, which like so many recent Finale features is only about 60% implemented throughout the program, the main issue I have is multimeas rest in the parts. The only solution I have come up with is to put real rest in, force create the multimeas rest (using my plugin for the purpose) and then manually add the multimeas rest with expressions. Does anyone have a better overall solution than this? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Divided 7/4
On 10/7/2014 6:28 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I'm working on a piece in 7/4 that has dotted barlines showing the 4+3 or 3+4 subdivisions. So far the way I am handling it is to put in 2 real bars totaling 7/4 for each graphic bar, with dotted barlines on the odd real bars and include in meas numbering unchecked on the even real bars. Leaving aside the vagaries of unchecking include in meas numbering, which like so many recent Finale features is only about 60% implemented throughout the program, the main issue I have is multimeas rest in the parts. The only solution I have come up with is to put real rest in, force create the multimeas rest (using my plugin for the purpose) and then manually add the multimeas rest with expressions. Does anyone have a better overall solution than this? I can't think of a better solution for 7/4 other than to suggest that if it were converted to 7/8 it would be much easier to show the 3-4 and 4-3 grouping via barring and you wouldn't need to mess around with measure numbers or multi-rests. Another solution for 7/4 (not necessarily better, but different) would be to leave them as 7/4 measures and create an articulation of a dotted vertical line which you can then insert where you want in each measure -- again no measure number messes and no multi-rest problems. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Divided 7/4
On Tue Oct 7, at TuesdayOct 7 6:52 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: On 10/7/2014 6:28 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I'm working on a piece in 7/4 that has dotted barlines showing the 4+3 or 3+4 subdivisions. So far the way I am handling it is to put in 2 real bars totaling 7/4 for each graphic bar, with dotted barlines on the odd real bars and include in meas numbering unchecked on the even real bars. Leaving aside the vagaries of unchecking include in meas numbering, which like so many recent Finale features is only about 60% implemented throughout the program, the main issue I have is multimeas rest in the parts. The only solution I have come up with is to put real rest in, force create the multimeas rest (using my plugin for the purpose) and then manually add the multimeas rest with expressions. Does anyone have a better overall solution than this? I can't think of a better solution for 7/4 other than to suggest that if it were converted to 7/8 it would be much easier to show the 3-4 and 4-3 grouping via barring and you wouldn't need to mess around with measure numbers or multi-rests. Another solution for 7/4 (not necessarily better, but different) would be to leave them as 7/4 measures and create an articulation of a dotted vertical line which you can then insert where you want in each measure -- again no measure number messes and no multi-rest problems. -- David H. Bailey Your second paragraph is what I do, except I use the dotted barline expression that comes with Finale now for a few versions, and use a blank articulation if I need to open up more horizontal space. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Divided 7/4
For this piece I'm acting as editor rather than composer, so I don't feel at liberty to change the meter from 7/4. (Were I the composer, I'd probably just alternate between 3/4 and 4/4.) I though about using expressions for the dotted barlines, but the group barlines for the keyboard part would be a challenge. Maybe no worse a challenge than my workaround for the multimeas rests, though. There's also the issue of note-spacing. I guess every solution requires extra manual work. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: On Tue Oct 7, at TuesdayOct 7 6:52 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: On 10/7/2014 6:28 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I'm working on a piece in 7/4 that has dotted barlines showing the 4+3 or 3+4 subdivisions. So far the way I am handling it is to put in 2 real bars totaling 7/4 for each graphic bar, with dotted barlines on the odd real bars and include in meas numbering unchecked on the even real bars. Leaving aside the vagaries of unchecking include in meas numbering, which like so many recent Finale features is only about 60% implemented throughout the program, the main issue I have is multimeas rest in the parts. The only solution I have come up with is to put real rest in, force create the multimeas rest (using my plugin for the purpose) and then manually add the multimeas rest with expressions. Does anyone have a better overall solution than this? I can't think of a better solution for 7/4 other than to suggest that if it were converted to 7/8 it would be much easier to show the 3-4 and 4-3 grouping via barring and you wouldn't need to mess around with measure numbers or multi-rests. Another solution for 7/4 (not necessarily better, but different) would be to leave them as 7/4 measures and create an articulation of a dotted vertical line which you can then insert where you want in each measure -- again no measure number messes and no multi-rest problems. -- David H. Bailey Your second paragraph is what I do, except I use the dotted barline expression that comes with Finale now for a few versions, and use a blank articulation if I need to open up more horizontal space. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
