Re: [Finale] Alt-v-a
Since I am unable to use my hands and the mouse the Windows keyboard shortcuts are absolutely necessary for me to be able to use Finale at all. Joe - Joe Laird Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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David W. Fenton wrote: I've never understood why this is not more universally known, as it's always been there. I can't explain why it wasn't known in the old days, since the underlined characters were always on the screen. But an improvement that MS has done in recent Windows versions is to default to not display the underlines unless the Alt key is pressed down. Of course this new behaviour can be restored to the old way, but I believe this new default behaviour will result in fewer people noticing the shortcuts. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On Mar 16, 2005, at 10:03 PM, Keith Helgesen wrote: Amazing what you learn when reading threads for interest only! I never knew about Alt-v-a- Wonderful! I really will find that useful- Sure beats pulling down the menu! How does one locate all these shortcuts, macros etc? (Still on Fin2001 BTW) Cheers K in OZ Say, there isn't a Mac version of this shortcut, is there? Mackers, anyone? Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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At 7:07 AM -0500 3/17/05, Christopher Smith wrote: Say, there isn't a Mac version of this shortcut, is there? Mackers, anyone? Don't know about that one in particular, but when I go to Mac help and search for keyboard shortcuts I get a wealth of information. You select a topic, get an overview at the bottom, and click there for more detailed information. I use OS 10.3.7. Carlberg Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On Mar 17, 2005, at 7:14 AM, Carlberg Jones wrote: At 7:07 AM -0500 3/17/05, Christopher Smith wrote: Say, there isn't a Mac version of this shortcut, is there? Mackers, anyone? Don't know about that one in particular, but when I go to Mac help and search for keyboard shortcuts I get a wealth of information. You select a topic, get an overview at the bottom, and click there for more detailed information. I use OS 10.3.7. Thank you, that was very helpful. But through no fault of yours, it doesn't seem to help much. For switching to Show Active Layer Only, I need to do this: Control F2 (which switches focus to the menu), tab 5 times, S, down arrow 4 times (because S selects Set Fonts as showing up first in alphabetical order before Show...), enter. A little convoluted, no? Any other Mac types out there with a better way? Christopher PS, I rediscovered that cmd tilde (cmd ~) cycles through open windows. I used to know that, but forgot! That was the old Page View - Scroll View keyboard shortcut in an earlier version of Finale, so it confused me. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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I don't think I ever tried it, but you can define keyboard shortcuts for any app under Panther. Alternatively get a Macro utility and define a keyboard shortcut. Johannes Christopher Smith schrieb: On Mar 17, 2005, at 7:14 AM, Carlberg Jones wrote: At 7:07 AM -0500 3/17/05, Christopher Smith wrote: Say, there isn't a Mac version of this shortcut, is there? Mackers, anyone? Don't know about that one in particular, but when I go to Mac help and search for keyboard shortcuts I get a wealth of information. You select a topic, get an overview at the bottom, and click there for more detailed information. I use OS 10.3.7. Thank you, that was very helpful. But through no fault of yours, it doesn't seem to help much. For switching to Show Active Layer Only, I need to do this: Control F2 (which switches focus to the menu), tab 5 times, S, down arrow 4 times (because S selects Set Fonts as showing up first in alphabetical order before Show...), enter. A little convoluted, no? Any other Mac types out there with a better way? Christopher PS, I rediscovered that cmd tilde (cmd ~) cycles through open windows. I used to know that, but forgot! That was the old Page View - Scroll View keyboard shortcut in an earlier version of Finale, so it confused me. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Hi Johannes, On 17 Mar 2005, at 9:18 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I don't think I ever tried it, but you can define keyboard shortcuts for any app under Panther. Unfortunately, no you can't. I think it only works on Cocoa apps? Or maybe it works on *some* Carbon apps, but not all. Anyway, it doesn't work in Finale. (Nor does it work in Sibelius.) Also, there's the (deal-breaking, for me) drawback that all shortcuts programmed in this way must involve the command key. Hopefully, Tiger will be better in this regard. It would be *really nice* to have OS-level support for user-customizable keyboard shortcuts in any application, but we are still a long way away from that. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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I've used Quickeys with Finale for a number of years -- the version available for the PC is 2.5, which hasn't been updated in several years. It's not as powerful as Quickeys for the mac, but it sure helps eliminate a lot of steps (I use it in particular with TGTools functions). JC - Jeffery Cotton President Wired Musician, Inc. http://www.wiredmusician.net http://www.wiredmusician.net see my own website at http://www.jefferycotton.net http://www.jefferycotton.net - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darcy James Argue Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:50 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Alt-v-a Hi Johannes, On 17 Mar 2005, at 9:18 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I don't think I ever tried it, but you can define keyboard shortcuts for any app under Panther. Unfortunately, no you can't. I think it only works on Cocoa apps? Or maybe it works on *some* Carbon apps, but not all. Anyway, it doesn't work in Finale. (Nor does it work in Sibelius.) Also, there's the (deal-breaking, for me) drawback that all shortcuts programmed in this way must involve the command key. Hopefully, Tiger will be better in this regard. It would be *really nice* to have OS-level support for user-customizable keyboard shortcuts in any application, but we are still a long way away from that. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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The annoying thing is that, if you define a keyboard shortcut for Finale using the Mac OS Keyboard Shortcuts function, it shows up in the menu and the title in the menu bar flashes when you press the shortcut, but the command isn't actually executed. In some other apps it's useful and you are not in fact limited to shortcuts involving the command key: I programmed some shortcuts for TextEdit with just function keys and they work fine. Michael Cook Hi Johannes, On 17 Mar 2005, at 9:18 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I don't think I ever tried it, but you can define keyboard shortcuts for any app under Panther. Unfortunately, no you can't. I think it only works on Cocoa apps? Or maybe it works on *some* Carbon apps, but not all. Anyway, it doesn't work in Finale. (Nor does it work in Sibelius.) Also, there's the (deal-breaking, for me) drawback that all shortcuts programmed in this way must involve the command key. Hopefully, Tiger will be better in this regard. It would be *really nice* to have OS-level support for user-customizable keyboard shortcuts in any application, but we are still a long way away from that. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Hi Michael, You're right -- I forgot that you can also use the function keys. But you cannot, for instance, program a keyboard shortcut like control-F or shift-option-A. Every shortcut has to involve either the command key or a function key, which to me makes the feature almost useless. Well, that and the fact that it doesn't work in Finale in the first place. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 17 Mar 2005, at 10:38 AM, Michael Cook wrote: The annoying thing is that, if you define a keyboard shortcut for Finale using the Mac OS Keyboard Shortcuts function, it shows up in the menu and the title in the menu bar flashes when you press the shortcut, but the command isn't actually executed. In some other apps it's useful and you are not in fact limited to shortcuts involving the command key: I programmed some shortcuts for TextEdit with just function keys and they work fine. Michael Cook Hi Johannes, On 17 Mar 2005, at 9:18 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I don't think I ever tried it, but you can define keyboard shortcuts for any app under Panther. Unfortunately, no you can't. I think it only works on Cocoa apps? Or maybe it works on *some* Carbon apps, but not all. Anyway, it doesn't work in Finale. (Nor does it work in Sibelius.) Also, there's the (deal-breaking, for me) drawback that all shortcuts programmed in this way must involve the command key. Hopefully, Tiger will be better in this regard. It would be *really nice* to have OS-level support for user-customizable keyboard shortcuts in any application, but we are still a long way away from that. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:07:03 -0500, Christopher Smith wrote: On Mar 16, 2005, at 10:03 PM, Keith Helgesen wrote: Amazing what you learn when reading threads for interest only! I never knew about Alt-v-a- Wonderful! I really will find that useful- Sure beats pulling down the menu! How does one locate all these shortcuts, macros etc? (Still on Fin2001 BTW) Say, there isn't a Mac version of this shortcut, is there? Mackers, anyone? Ctrl-Shift-F2 allows you to keyboard through the menus. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a way to automatically jump to the menu you want (you have to hit left or right to pick the menu), but most options within the menu are selectable by hitting their first letter. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Life would be so much easier if only (3/2)^12=(2/1)^7. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On 17 Mar 2005 at 9:20, Jari Williamsson wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: I've never understood why this is not more universally known, as it's always been there. I can't explain why it wasn't known in the old days, since the underlined characters were always on the screen. But an improvement that MS has done in recent Windows versions is to default to not display the underlines unless the Alt key is pressed down. Of course this new behaviour can be restored to the old way, but I believe this new default behaviour will result in fewer people noticing the shortcuts. What software does that? Is it only Microsoft software? Or is that built into WinXP? Sometimes I think the people at Microsoft are just irretrievably stupid. They constantly add features that few people need, but implement them in a way that intrudes on everyone (so that no one will miss that the feature is there), and then take away or fail to promote unobtrusive features that could help a lot of people. They are completely out of touch with their user base, in my opinion. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On 17 Mar 2005 at 6:14, Carlberg Jones wrote: At 7:07 AM -0500 3/17/05, Christopher Smith wrote: Say, there isn't a Mac version of this shortcut, is there? Mackers, anyone? Don't know about that one in particular, but when I go to Mac help and search for keyboard shortcuts I get a wealth of information. You select a topic, get an overview at the bottom, and click there for more detailed information. I use OS 10.3.7. The shortcuts we're talking about on the Windows side are defined in the *application*, not in the OS. If they aren't implemented by the programmers of an application, you need a third-party application to add them. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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I seem to have missed the initial messages about Alt-v-a. What does it do? (I use mac) Stan Lord On 17 Mar 2005, at 03:03, Keith Helgesen wrote: Amazing what you learn when reading threads for interest only! I never knew about Alt-v-a- Wonderful! I really will find that useful- Sure beats pulling down the menu! How does one locate all these shortcuts, macros etc? (Still on Fin2001 BTW) Cheers K in OZ Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0436-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Yates Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2005 1:11 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer Of course, it doesn't matter, as long as one can find it. The Menu per se does not matter at all. What does matter is the shortcut. I have been doing Alt-V-A so long that it is a natural no-look move with my left hand. Now, apparently only for reasons of foolish consistency to help berginners, it has been changed to the Options Menu which makes the shortcut Alt-O-A. This combination is impossible with one hand. For me the change is an affront to experienced users. Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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David W. Fenton wrote: What software does that? Is it only Microsoft software? Or is that built into WinXP? It's built into WinXP. On the Appearance tab in the Display Properties, there's a button called Effects There you now have an option called Hide underline letters for keyboard navigation until I press the Alt key. This setting is ON in the default WinXP setup. However, I'm unsure about how this option affects applications. Firefox and Thunderbird seem to be unaffected all the time by this setting (they behave as if you run in older Windows versions), while Finale is affected by it all the time. Perhaps it's connected to MFC (which Finale/Win uses)? The inconsistency between apps makes this option even worse. They are completely out of touch with their user base, in my opinion. Absolutely. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Stan Lord wrote: I seem to have missed the initial messages about Alt-v-a. What does it do? (I use mac) Pressing Alt+V opens the View menu. Pressing 'A' after that executes the option underlined with an 'A' in the menu, in older version that was Show Active Layer Only. In FinWin2005, there's a dedicated shortcut key for Show Active Layer Only, Alt+Shift+S. Perhaps the Mac version has a similar one? Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Jari Williamsson / 05.3.17 / 04:27 PM wrote: In FinWin2005, there's a dedicated shortcut key for Show Active Layer Only, Alt+Shift+S. Perhaps the Mac version has a similar one? Nope. Alt+Shift+S under Win is not Finale hotkey. It's a Windows shortcut key so Mac can't do that :-( -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Re alt-shift-s Am I missing something or is this key sequence something new to Finale versions later than the lowlyFinale for Windows 2002b which I normally use. (My loyalty to 2002stems not fromany religious conviction nor any political stance but because I simply cannot afford to upgrade every year. I am not too proud to accept charity.) Anyway, to return to the point. When I press alt+shift+s my computeryelps as though I have poked it with something sharp but the screen stays the same. I can see no other effect. What am I supposed to see? All the best, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg"http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I press alt+shift+s my computer yelps as though I have poked it with something sharp but the screen stays the same. I can see no other effect. What am I supposed to see? I don't think alt-shift-S was an alternative to alt-v-a, but rather was introduced to maintain a onehanded shortcut when show active layer only was moved from the view to the Options menu. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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In a message dated 17/03/2005 22:44:46 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think alt-shift-S was an alternative to alt-v-a, but rather was introduced to maintain a "onehanded" shortcut when "show active layer only" was moved from the "view" to the "Options" menu. But I can't get it to do anything other than sqeal. :-) All the best, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg"http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I press alt+shift+s my computer yelps as though I have poked it with something sharp but the screen stays the same. I can see no other effect. What am I supposed to see? The Alt+Shift+S shortcut key was added to FinWin2005. It was probably added because of the problems Richard Yates described with the new menu placement of Show Active Layer Only: Now, apparently only for reasons of foolish consistency to help berginners, it has been changed to the Options Menu which makes the shortcut Alt-O-A. This combination is impossible with one hand. For me the change is an affront to experienced users. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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A-NO-NE Music wrote: Jari Williamsson / 05.3.17 / 04:27 PM wrote: In FinWin2005, there's a dedicated shortcut key for Show Active Layer Only, Alt+Shift+S. Perhaps the Mac version has a similar one? Nope. Alt+Shift+S under Win is not Finale hotkey. It's a Windows shortcut key so Mac can't do that :-( I'm not sure what you mean by that -- it has a dedicated function in Finale which isn't like any other program I have. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 17/03/2005 22:44:46 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think alt-shift-S was an alternative to alt-v-a, but rather was introduced to maintain a onehanded shortcut when show active layer only was moved from the view to the Options menu. But I can't get it to do anything other than sqeal. :-) Which menu is show active layer only in? If it's still in the View menu, then alt-v-a should work for you, and alt-shift-s won't do anything for you, thus the squeal. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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dhbailey / 05.3.17 / 08:17 PM wrote: A-NO-NE Music wrote: Jari Williamsson / 05.3.17 / 04:27 PM wrote: In FinWin2005, there's a dedicated shortcut key for Show Active Layer Only, Alt+Shift+S. Perhaps the Mac version has a similar one? Nope. Alt+Shift+S under Win is not Finale hotkey. It's a Windows shortcut key so Mac can't do that :-( I'm not sure what you mean by that -- it has a dedicated function in Finale which isn't like any other program I have. I am certainly confused here. The subject sez Alt-V-A, which is shortcut key for Windows regardless of application. Now Alt+Shift+S isn't. So, did FinWin added a hotkey to this function all the sudden, but didn't do so for Mac? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Thanks Jari, On the mac show active layer only is in the Options menu. I looked in Help/keyboard shortcuts but none is listed for the Options menu. I tried Alt+Shift+S with amusing results - it launched a demonstration of iKey which I had installed s while back but forgotten about. Stan Lord On 17 Mar 2005, at 21:27, Jari Williamsson wrote: Stan Lord wrote: I seem to have missed the initial messages about Alt-v-a. What does it do? (I use mac) Pressing Alt+V opens the View menu. Pressing 'A' after that executes the option underlined with an 'A' in the menu, in older version that was Show Active Layer Only. In FinWin2005, there's a dedicated shortcut key for Show Active Layer Only, Alt+Shift+S. Perhaps the Mac version has a similar one? Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Amazing what you learn when reading threads for interest only! I never knew about Alt-v-a- Wonderful! I really will find that useful- Sure beats pulling down the menu! How does one locate all these shortcuts, macros etc? (Still on Fin2001 BTW) Cheers K in OZ Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0436-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Yates Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2005 1:11 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer Of course, it doesn't matter, as long as one can find it. The Menu per se does not matter at all. What does matter is the shortcut. I have been doing Alt-V-A so long that it is a natural no-look move with my left hand. Now, apparently only for reasons of foolish consistency to help berginners, it has been changed to the Options Menu which makes the shortcut Alt-O-A. This combination is impossible with one hand. For me the change is an affront to experienced users. Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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At 10:03 PM 03/16/2005, Keith Helgesen wrote: I never knew about Alt-v-a- Wonderful! I really will find that useful- Sure beats pulling down the menu! How does one locate all these shortcuts, macros etc? (Still on Fin2001 BTW) These are standard Windows shortcuts. In Windows, in any application, pressing Alt activates the menu bar. You can then navigate through any menus by pressing the underlined letter for the menu item you want. This is often the first letter of the item, but not always. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On 17 Mar 2005 at 14:03, Keith Helgesen wrote: Amazing what you learn when reading threads for interest only! I never knew about Alt-v-a- Wonderful! I really will find that useful- Sure beats pulling down the menu! How does one locate all these shortcuts, macros etc? (Still on Fin2001 BTW) Standard Microsoft practice is that the shortcuts for menus and menu items are underlined. This has been the case since the very first version of Windows, nearly 20 years ago. It's standard UI for EVERY WINDOWS PROGRAM EVER that uses the recommended conventions. Striking the ALT key activates the menu, and then striking any underlined letter in the menu will pull down the respective menu. Once that's visible, you can see the underlines on all menu items. I've never understood why this is not more universally known, as it's always been there. I know that back in the days where I was giving lots of training sessions for people converting for the first time from DOS to Windows that I had to point this out and show people how it worked, but what I found was that, in general, people would mouse it or they'd keyboard it -- they generally didn't like to mix it up. Me, well, I've always used mouse for some things and keyboard for others, depending on which seems easier. Of course, I also touch type at around 100 words per minute, so moving my hand away from the keyboard to the mouse and then back again does not disorient me at all. Without thinking I can get back in position, helped by the little nubbin on the J key. Of course, I once sat down at a keyboard and kept mis-typing all the letters on my right hand. I finally realized that the nubbin on that keyboard was on the H key instead of the J! Until that point, I'd never consciously even noticed that I paid any attention to it. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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David W. Fenton / 05.3.16 / 10:30 PM wrote: I've never understood why this is not more universally known, as it's always been there. Because it doesn't apply to non English versions? What's interesting is that Japanese Windows uses English version's shortcut keys, while Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese, and Korean uses totally odd shortcut keys beyond ones expectation :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
