Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
Ha ha! Yes, Darcy nailed it. Cmaj7, the Canadian variant. I saw it here in Montreal, too, and had to deal with musicians mis-reading it as Cdim7, among other things. Like the crumhorn, the serpent, and the ophecleide, the circled 7th chord has died a deserved death, only employed by dead people and weirdos. Christopher On Wed Nov 13, at WednesdayNov 13 11:19 PM, dershem wrote: On 11/13/2013 8:14 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: I would assume G7, but can you ask composer? On Nov 14, 2013 11:10 AM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: Lost my ouija board - alas, the composer is dead. And Canadian. Don't know if that makes a difference or not. It's an old Rob McConnell chart I'm doing a new edition of for the publisher. cd I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as C (7) but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
Bill Evans used to use a European 7, the one with a slash through it used to distinguish it from the European 1 that looks a lot like our 7. I got used to that as a shorthand Maj7 symbol. It worked especially well for min/Maj7 chords. Anything's good, as long as there's concensus. I'd use Bill's notation now, if others knew it and adopted it. Instead, I use triangles, not universally loved but pretty well understood and accepted. Chuck Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: Ha ha! Yes, Darcy nailed it. Cmaj7, the Canadian variant. I saw it here in Montreal, too, and had to deal with musicians mis-reading it as Cdim7, among other things. Like the crumhorn, the serpent, and the ophecleide, the circled 7th chord has died a deserved death, only employed by dead people and weirdos. Christopher On Wed Nov 13, at WednesdayNov 13 11:19 PM, dershem wrote: On 11/13/2013 8:14 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: I would assume G7, but can you ask composer? On Nov 14, 2013 11:10 AM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: Lost my ouija board - alas, the composer is dead. And Canadian. Don't know if that makes a difference or not. It's an old Rob McConnell chart I'm doing a new edition of for the publisher. cd I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as C (7) but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Chord notation question
I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as C (7) but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
I would assume G7, but can you ask composer? On Nov 14, 2013 11:10 AM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as C (7) but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
On 11/13/2013 8:14 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: I would assume G7, but can you ask composer? On Nov 14, 2013 11:10 AM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: Lost my ouija board - alas, the composer is dead. And Canadian. Don't know if that makes a difference or not. It's an old Rob McConnell chart I'm doing a new edition of for the publisher. cd I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as C (7) but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
What are the instruments playing under that symbol? Or do you just have a lead sheet? In such cases of odd chord symbols, I've always relied on the notes under the symbol to tell me what the odd symbol *really* means. Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:08 PM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as C (7) but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
Dead. And Canadian... Hah! The old MTV quiz show had a category called Dead or Canadian - name a celebrity, contestant would guess which: William Shatner? (Canadian), 'William Frawley?. (Dead). On Nov 14, 2013 11:20 AM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: On 11/13/2013 8:14 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: I would assume G7, but can you ask composer? On Nov 14, 2013 11:10 AM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: Lost my ouija board - alas, the composer is dead. And Canadian. Don't know if that makes a difference or not. It's an old Rob McConnell chart I'm doing a new edition of for the publisher. cd I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as C (7) but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
The old MTV quiz show Remote Control. Gave the world Adam Sandler On Nov 14, 2013 11:28 AM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com wrote: Dead. And Canadian... Hah! The old MTV quiz show had a category called Dead or Canadian - name a celebrity, contestant would guess which: William Shatner? (Canadian), 'William Frawley?. (Dead). On Nov 14, 2013 11:20 AM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: On 11/13/2013 8:14 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: I would assume G7, but can you ask composer? On Nov 14, 2013 11:10 AM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: Lost my ouija board - alas, the composer is dead. And Canadian. Don't know if that makes a difference or not. It's an old Rob McConnell chart I'm doing a new edition of for the publisher. cd I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as C (7) but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
On 11/13/2013 8:21 PM, Williams, Jim wrote: What are the instruments playing under that symbol? Or do you just have a lead sheet? In such cases of odd chord symbols, I've always relied on the notes under the symbol to tell me what the odd symbol *really* means. I start with the rhythm section usually. I'll have to enter the parts (16 horns) and convert to concert pitch to find out. cd On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:08 PM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as C (7) but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
If it's not too disruptive to your workflow, i'd save the chords on this particular chart until last if possible. Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:36 PM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: On 11/13/2013 8:21 PM, Williams, Jim wrote: What are the instruments playing under that symbol? Or do you just have a lead sheet? In such cases of odd chord symbols, I've always relied on the notes under the symbol to tell me what the odd symbol *really* means. I start with the rhythm section usually. I'll have to enter the parts (16 horns) and convert to concert pitch to find out. cd On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:08 PM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as C (7) but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
CMA7. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:09 PM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as C (7) but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
I seem to recall occasionally seeing that mean maj7, but I can't remember for sure. Might that make sense in context? Doug On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:09 PM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as C (7) but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
(It's an idiosyncratic shorthand for major seventh that only ever took hold in Toronto.) Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:09 PM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as C (7) but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
On 11/13/2013 8:42 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: CMA7. Cheers, - DJA Thanks, Darcy. cd === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
On 11/13/2013 8:42 PM, Doug Walter wrote: I seem to recall occasionally seeing that mean maj7, but I can't remember for sure. Might that make sense in context? Doug It might. [looking...] I see other Maj chords but no Maj7, so, yeah, it's likely. cd On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:09 PM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote: I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as C (7) but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord notation question
On 11/13/2013 8:43 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: (It's an idiosyncratic shorthand for major seventh that only ever took hold in Toronto.) Cheers, - DJA Yeah, that makes as much sense as any of Rob's eccentricities. :) cd === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
