[Finale] Finale 2014 - Note Mover and TGTools

2013-11-04 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Didn't Finale a long time ago KILL off the Note Mover? And now it is back? 
What? Is that a step forward or backwards?

The BIG question for me is how well will TGTools work. I use that plugin DAILY, 
and it seems to not work at all (the full version). Copying the Plugin into 
Library-Application Support-Finale 2014 gives me this mess, and none of them 
seem to work.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2311879/Screen%20Shot%202013-11-04%20at%2010.18.43%20AM.png

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2014 - Note Mover and TGTools

2013-11-04 Thread Robert Patterson
I haven't been able to try it, but you might try disabling the TGTools Menu
(in Fin12) and seeing if it then shows correctly in Fin14. I feel certain
the UI changes in Fin14 have probably broken the TGTools menu.


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.comwrote:

 Didn't Finale a long time ago KILL off the Note Mover? And now it is back?
 What? Is that a step forward or backwards?

 The BIG question for me is how well will TGTools work. I use that plugin
 DAILY, and it seems to not work at all (the full version). Copying the
 Plugin into Library-Application Support-Finale 2014 gives me this mess,
 and none of them seem to work.


 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2311879/Screen%20Shot%202013-11-04%20at%2010.18.43%20AM.png

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2014 - Note Mover and TGTools

2013-11-04 Thread SN jef chippewa

contact the developer and tell him how much you need an update and 
that you are willing to pay for it.


Didn't Finale a long time ago KILL off the Note Mover? And now it is 
back? What? Is that a step forward or backwards?

The BIG question for me is how well will TGTools work. I use that 
plugin DAILY, and it seems to not work at all (the full version). 
Copying the Plugin into Library-Application Support-Finale 2014 
gives me this mess, and none of them seem to work.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2311879/Screen%20Shot%202013-11-04%20at%2010.18.43%20AM.png


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Re: [Finale] Finale 2014 - Note Mover and TGTools

2013-11-04 Thread Robert Patterson
Dang. An option to disable the TGTools menus does not appear to exist.


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:41 PM, SN jef chippewa 
shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:


 contact the developer and tell him how much you need an update and
 that you are willing to pay for it.


 Didn't Finale a long time ago KILL off the Note Mover? And now it is
 back? What? Is that a step forward or backwards?
 
 The BIG question for me is how well will TGTools work. I use that
 plugin DAILY, and it seems to not work at all (the full version).
 Copying the Plugin into Library-Application Support-Finale 2014
 gives me this mess, and none of them seem to work.
 
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2311879/Screen%20Shot%202013-11-04%20at%2010.18.43%20AM.png


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Re: [Finale] Finale 2014 - Note Mover and TGTools

2013-11-04 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Well, how likely is that? He hasn't officially updated it to work with 
anything other than Finale 2010, and still refers to Coda Music on his site 
(www.tgtools.de)

I know that MakeMusic uses some of the TGTools stuff with Finale 2014, and 
those seem to work. Why doesn't MakeMusic just buy out TGTools? It's really an 
essential thing to have if you use Finale.

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On Nov 4, 2013, at 10:41 AM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com 
wrote:

 
 contact the developer and tell him how much you need an update and 
 that you are willing to pay for it.
 
 
 Didn't Finale a long time ago KILL off the Note Mover? And now it is 
 back? What? Is that a step forward or backwards?
 
 The BIG question for me is how well will TGTools work. I use that 
 plugin DAILY, and it seems to not work at all (the full version). 
 Copying the Plugin into Library-Application Support-Finale 2014 
 gives me this mess, and none of them seem to work.
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2311879/Screen%20Shot%202013-11-04%20at%2010.18.43%20AM.png
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2014 - Note Mover and TGTools

2013-11-04 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Well, I had to copy the plugin to the new Finale 2014 folder in the Library 
folder (I'm on a Mac).

It shows up, but none of the things seem to work...which is not good. I use 
TGTools daily in Finale. 


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On Nov 4, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com 
wrote:

 Dang. An option to disable the TGTools menus does not appear to exist.
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:41 PM, SN jef chippewa 
 shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:
 
 
 contact the developer and tell him how much you need an update and
 that you are willing to pay for it.
 
 
 Didn't Finale a long time ago KILL off the Note Mover? And now it is
 back? What? Is that a step forward or backwards?
 
 The BIG question for me is how well will TGTools work. I use that
 plugin DAILY, and it seems to not work at all (the full version).
 Copying the Plugin into Library-Application Support-Finale 2014
 gives me this mess, and none of them seem to work.
 
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2311879/Screen%20Shot%202013-11-04%20at%2010.18.43%20AM.png
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2014 - Note Mover and TGTools

2013-11-04 Thread SN jef chippewa

Well, how likely is that?

i don't know, i didn't ask him.

He hasn't officially updated it to work with anything other than 
Finale 2010, and still refers to Coda Music on his site 
(www.tgtools.de)

did you ask him why? or tell him you are looking forward to an update?

I know that MakeMusic uses some of the TGTools stuff with Finale 
2014, and those seem to work. Why doesn't MakeMusic just buy out 
TGTools? It's really an essential thing to have if you use Finale.

i don't know, i don't work there, but you can always ask the 
developer if he plans to update...


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Re: [Finale] Finale 2014 - Note Mover and TGTools

2013-11-04 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2013-11-04 20:30, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
 I know that MakeMusic uses some of the TGTools stuff with Finale 2014, and 
 those seem to work.

The TGTools lite that's included in Finale doesn't hook to the 
application menu.

The Finale UI menu is now in Cocoa, which means that TGTools (full) 
won't be able to move the menu items as it used to. The easy thing 
that Tobias could do (for now) is to just disable the menu coding 
altogether and let users install it in a plug-ins subfolder.

However, when Finale goes 64 bit, TGTools will be completely dead. I 
made a decision about 2 years ago to remove TGTools just to avoid 
dependencies on it, and make my own tools where I missed them.


Best regards,

Jari Williamsson



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Re: [Finale] Finale 2014 - Note Mover and TGTools

2013-11-04 Thread Eric Dannewitz
It's not so much the menu disaster, it's that none of the plugins seem
to work anymore.

That is a bigger problem.

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 On Nov 4, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Jari Williamsson 
 jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote:

 On 2013-11-04 20:30, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
 I know that MakeMusic uses some of the TGTools stuff with Finale 2014, and 
 those seem to work.

 The TGTools lite that's included in Finale doesn't hook to the
 application menu.

 The Finale UI menu is now in Cocoa, which means that TGTools (full)
 won't be able to move the menu items as it used to. The easy thing
 that Tobias could do (for now) is to just disable the menu coding
 altogether and let users install it in a plug-ins subfolder.

 However, when Finale goes 64 bit, TGTools will be completely dead. I
 made a decision about 2 years ago to remove TGTools just to avoid
 dependencies on it, and make my own tools where I missed them.


 Best regards,

 Jari Williamsson



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